Eternals: Too Ambitious For Its Own Good 

I was so upset because I never figured out her actual personality lmao

@@shirin9452 thats because she doesn't have one

@@thiagocarvalho8630 I know. And I’ve started to worry that it’s a trend, because if you think about it, Captain Marvel didn’t have a personality either. It’s not like Marvel can’t write interesting and great women-Peggy, Natasha, Wanda, Nebula, Gamora, Mantis, even Maria-they just maybe struggle with writing a good girl MAIN? (I never managed to see Black Widow, even though I want to, but I don’t have the highest hopes). I personally felt like I knew more about Thena from the little she said, Ajak, and Makkari, who barely was in it. And Sprite, of course. Sersi was just a beautiful statue that the rest of the movie revolved around. I actually liked the movie more than most, but since Ikaris did NOTHING for me, I hope to god they give Sersi some kind of identity and flesh in the next one.

This point only works if you don't consider this an ensemble piece without a defined or definitive "main" protagonist. More than one form of story structure exists.

@@shirin9452 she was reserved, peaceful and considered her actions deliberately. Just because she wasn't brash doesn't mean she didn't have definable and consistent characteristics. I think you are confusing personality with aggression and/or charisma. Some characters in life and fiction are less outgoing than others, it's a fact.

I agree.

There are rumors that you could see a prequel to the eternals

That's for sure and then make this movie. Because I barely remember any of these character's names besides Thena, Sprite, and Ajack

Yeah like a New separate thing

Yea,it's a classic example of something that should have at least started as a TV Show.

I lost it. I was like THIS..this is supposed to be emotional?!?!

I wish they hadn’t shown ANY scenes. Like, I just watched this movie, you can just use your amazing actor to convey his internal conflict, don’t spoon feed me.

@@lilicorrea8515 FOR REAL. Richard Madden was eating that scene up with just his face and all of a sudden that lame montage came in and ruined the whole feeling

@@sojourndestination3031 wasnt that like the third time they showed those exact scenes? I feel like their whole romance was one montage on repeat.

Their chemistry felt so forced tho, I didn't feel emotionally investing about their relationship cuz there's barely any development for their chemistry

Considering the theme of the show. It might have been successful like Loki and wandavision

Don't be surprised, because this is the same studio that green light the SW sequel trilogy without an endgame.

my guess is they couldn't afford Hayek and Jolie for a TV show..? idk

@@paularep that or some celebrities just straight up refuse to do TV (although that culture might be going away so *shrug*)

This storyline could've been a Disney+ show for sure, maybe even better actors & actresses, although more affordable, could've taken these roles so we could get better acquainted with the characters and felt the importance of the choices made 🤷🏼‍♀️

Yeah, but Ikaris also betrayed Sersi. That would not have made as much sense if they had the same kind of chemistry. Druig was as patient with and committed to humanity as he was to Makkari. Ikaris left to protect himself and the Celestial mission. I honestly didn't know for sure if he would choose her or humanity at the last moment and neither did he. It was only when he was pressed to the limit that he had to admit how hollow his beliefs were and flew away because there was nothing left for him. He walked away from her 500 years ago and she really did move on.

I felt bad for Thena and Gilgamesh situation more than feeling bad for Sersei being betrayed by Ikaris not gonna lie. I can't figure out where in the execution the problem was though

@@blehh010 they(edit; Gilgamesh and Thena) were a more compelling love/care story. I'm not sure it was even romantic though. Or if it would have been very ethical of him even given her condition. Either way his commitment to her was manifest in 500 years of stewardship. Curious to hear what you mean by 'felt bad'. Like for them? Or about the situation? In regards to the betrayal? I mean Gilgamesh did die over it.

I said this in a different video, so if you've seen my comment there apologies, but: People keep comparing these two relationships but they were intentionally different. Ikaris/Sersi have this transcendent love, but it's... kinda broken. Because Ikaris has kept himself closed off from Sersi for so long, knowing the truth of their situation. He is a soldier, always has been; he keeps his feelings close to him. Everything's not all right between them, they are (excuse the pun) eternally at odds. In every life, on every planet, they will be - that's why Ikaris well, does what he does. There's a sense of emptiness and tragedy there. Druig/Makkari are different. They have this youthful energy, they don't have this crisis between them. Druig as a character is supposed to come as a surprise, you see he has a big heart under there, despite appearances. You root for them because the characters aren't having this wedge between them (Though it helps the actors do have insane chemistry). A lot of the differences in the pairings and the reception thereof comes down to the fact Ikaris and Druig are foils to each other, and their character arcs subvert expectations. Idk just my opinion lol I just feel the two pairings served very different purposes and were executed well along with that vision, which makes audience reception unsurprising.

@@caitlinb35 100%. I feel like people are projecting these love story/'family' tropes onto the story were it doesn't belong and not getting that they are SUPPOSED TO think the relationships are strained. If people thought none of the relationships work that would have been a problem, but it seems to me that the relationships that worked were supposed to and the ones that felt broken were supposed to and everyone's comments fall in line with the expected pattern, whether they realize it or not.

Ugh yes a lot of wasted Thena potential even in this movie they could've done it. Or made Sersei just a little more interesting herself.

tbh a Time’s Arrow episode sounds freakin amazing

"Can you taste the ice cream, mom?"

So goood

Ok MARVEL could you give.. *checks notes*... Lucas Pucas the next Eternals film directing job? Ta, love.

It was funny sweet and actually held chemistry even if for only a few seconds and I'll probably remember it the most fondly as well yeah

Oh their chemistry ☺️ that's the romance we wanted to see

IKR!? 😅 I mean like seriously tho…they were able to convey their chemistry with like what? 15 seconds ffs! Druig is my favorite character even tho he only gets like 10-15 ish mins screen time, idk maybe less than that actually, he also has few lines but everything he says is quite wise/clever and pretty damn funny too! I mean like holy shit was it hilarious when he legitimately K.O sprite with a freaking rock to head ffs😅 best part of the movie imo😉👍tho reading that sentence back it makes me look like im quite sadistic oss😂but Sorry (not sorry) my dudes that shit was hilarious imo!🤷‍♀️

it's proof that just because something CAN be made into a movie doesn't mean it SHOULD-especially when it's so seemingly random. I appreciate the MCU for branching out from The Avengers though. I think it should have just stayed a comic

@@ellaelliott4415 well it is just a comic just because it's a movie don't mean it invalidates the comics it's inspired from.

I hate this mindset. We SHOULD be seeing different tones clash against each other. A character like The Punisher is going to feel weird next to The Fantastic Four. Half of MCU's problem is that they feel the need to have every character fit perfectly near each other. That's not necessary.

Yeah it's energy and flow is WAY different. It tried too hard to be artistic and dramatic

As of right now 2024, it seems way too good for the MCU. 🤷‍♂️

yes, honestly Druig was my favorite one on there. His storyline is the only one who feels a little more build up.

They had a lot of chemistry in that one scene lol.

As well as Gilgamesh and Thena

@@simelisiphomncube3434 they were so cool...i wish gilgamesh had some more time.

The “my beautiful beautiful makkari” scene lives rent free in my head

@@g0ldenicecream lel

I'm not subscribed to you yet I am seeing you EVERYWHERE.

I'm ashamed for how long it took me to get this joke 🤦🏿‍♂️

@@TheOther-Dude plz help I still don’t get it xD

@@florencewilkinson1152 sprite, like the soda

Considering it took me 27 years to be closer to my family aka my entire life, I can see where the infighting may come from. After years apart and exploring new facets, different beliefs, experiences, values, and ideas form. You still love your family, but the lost time and added distance make it harder to get along again.

@@gabrielleduplessis7388 they were together for 5 thousands years, were appart 100 years and you think they being so dumb makes sense?

EXACTLY

oh good point

samee

yeeees, when she was first mentioned i thought it was a Sprite product placement 😂

LMAO SAME!!!

@@carolinaa.4407 that’s the name of the actor who played Sersi’s “human” boyfriend

ME TOO, I was so freaking confused

He's quite handsome too

@@CrazyGzay I agree! It's nice to finally connect a face with the voice (wich I already liked very much)

I agree on this

Face reveal

I have 'feelings' about this reveal. And about the glasses (can I HAVE THEM?!). But there are feelings. Which does not in any way take away from how great this channel is, or change the core of it, but it does add a giddy elementt.

a superpower is not a story

That's not the point the each had good stories but the did not have the time the develope them, druig did have one of the best build up but we expected more from that story, I mean where did it lead him, did he finally think mind control should stop human wars or that it better just to take a few humans and make them live in peace?????! Does he want peace or freedom more for the humans one sec he appears to be a dictator the other I don't know the whole movie is confusing.

But the entire point of his power is that it’s useless because he’s not supposed to use it. So the only reason he has that power is for a plot device. In the eternal’s viewpoint of Druig, why did he have that power to control human minds if he’s not supposed to even use it??? It completely contradicts why he was designed to have that power.

@@bruja_cat now am confused again was he not suppose to use it to stop conflict or use it at all, I think it was the conflict part that was restricted

i think his potential was wasted and instead he was mostly used for witty jokes and asides (like the whole makkari interactions are fun, but they show only one facet of him in short scenes, not the whole picture). We never explore the moral complexities of his power (because controlling people's actions through their minds implies removing their free will, even if it's used for "the greater good"), his reasoning (does he feel righteous, resigned, limited in any away?), his actual grievances with the other eternals, etc. We saw him leave the rest while mind controlling basically two armies, and later still controlling an entire village (with/without their consent? we dont know) but there's still a lot missing there: he could have gone around the world "righting wrongs" for all we know. I'd have love to see more of him explored just as well as all the others... but here we are lol

I wouldn’t mind one more hour if it meant more stories were fleshed out.

At that point, it should of split into two movies to flesh the story and characters out.

​@@normadgarmez7026or a show

except with actual diversity?

@@naevazaveri8510 He's talking about the ATLA movie.

@@naevazaveri8510 I think he was talking about the The Last Airbender movie, not the show

@@akiradiarrhea who the hell thinks about diversity first thing when watching a show😂

Cannot unsee now

I absolutely agree with you. I love the idea of the Eternals. Though the execution could've been a lot better, it feels like something a bit different and refreshing compared to other marvel movies. I'd really like to get to know the characters better, because I feel I could get attached to them. Their stories, motivations, personalities... are different enough and I hope they get to be fleshed out. For one, I'd love to explore the consequences of Thena's memories not being erased, and, on top of that, living with the trauma of Gilgamesh's death (both for her and for the group as a whole). And of course, I can't wait to see more of Makkari and Druig. It's incredble that they had so much chemistry in like... 2 or 3 scenes??? I would've liked that Kro hadn't appeared in the final battle and had been left as a potential villain for another film, but, honestly, it wouldn't be surprising if he had survived as he took Ajak's healing powers and resurrecting characters is something Marvel seems to enjoy.

I think he only checked up on her because he knew about the deviants not because of the earthquake.

Yeah, I always told myself while watching "I can't like this guy, and idk why". His character felt so cardboard-ish too. His whole personality was just "Man" lol. Sersi's guilty of this as well.

Same! I was like okay he showed up inexplicably at the same time as the deviant? Clearly he's evil and brought the deviant. Gave me Mysterio vibes.

I know !! Like deeym this movie needs more Ange in it .

she is criminally underused

I'm sorry for only finding this comment & video like a year & a half later, but I really just have to say that I agree with you. I watched Eternals in theaters & the whole time I sat there like "Is it me? Am I just too old for Marvel anymore, or is it that Endgame was just a great freaking finale and I can't move on?" And it was definitely the latter. Surprisingly, I watched No Way Home in theaters a couple of months afterwards, and I was like "NOPE! The spark's still there; I just can't move on."

girl how did you watch all that in three days??? I love it hahaha

And I'm going to proceed to steal it.

Exactly. She seemed more like a vessel to the plot. I literally can’t tell you one interesting thing about her personality. She felt like she was just there to be the protagonist and save the day.

Yep. I still don't know why Ajak chose her. The only reason I remember being given is "She loved humans more than anyone else" but in that case, the winners are clearly either Druig for wanting to end world conflicts so badly to the point of depression, or Phastos for wanting to help them evolve so much. He actually cried when he saw the World Wars, despite being a synthetic creature. Heck, even Kingo's a contender for actually loving having fun with humans, making a living out of singing & dancing for centuries instead of hiding away, lol. Sersi has nothing going for her... I think they just wanted a female protagonist. If I had to choose, the protagonist would either be my boy Druig (1: Bc I've never seen an MCU main character with his dreary, almost emo personality & it'd be interesting. 2: The dilemma of free will would be brought to the forefront and 3: Makkari and him would have more screen time, making an interesting main couple for MCU standards) or Thena (bc it'd actually make sense for her to be chosen, assuming Ajak knows she's the only other Eternal who remembers everything. Then the film would become a mystery/thriller surrounding someone with mental illness who has a past life, which is also interesting by MCU standards). Sorry for the rant 😅

My main problem with Sersi is that she is supposed to be the new leader but there's not a single moment in the movie were they show us why she has to be the leader or why is she gaining this role, she never takes the leading role, never gives orders, never plans anything, doesn't have the qualities to be a leader. In fact she is mostly useless until the very end of the movie. For the majority of the movie Ajack is shown as the leader due to the extensive flashbacks and in the movie it self the characters just seen to follow Ikarus than any other person until the revelation. I'm ok with a character being the leader not for it's physical strength but for it's emotional union and companion, they show us this can work with Ajack who has not a single ofensive power and it's a healer but you can feel her as the leader for her motherly nature and the emotional impact she has in the others, but Sersi is never shown to be very influential in the group or motherly or the hearth, her only quality is that she likes humans (for a reason that is never shown). If anything they could have kept Sersi as the choosen one and make Druig the leader, Druig was the first one who expressed the feelings that would end up being the new motives of the Eternals and has more influence in the other characters than Sersi.

I have to agree, your take can also be applied to Druig. He is made explicitly clear to be powerful enough to stop human war with his powers and was even going to be used to stop the celestial. But he couldn’t because it would rob humans of free will. It causes a lot of internal conflict for him - enough that he’s the first to speak out against Ajak and question their purpose. I absolutely loved that. For a character that showed minimal facial expressions and wasn’t even the main focus he was still so emotional, yet distant, and cheeky, yet serious enough to stand for what he believes in. The fact that I got all that from him says a lot. I just wished there was more to flesh him out. I also wish I knew more about Makarri because her powers are so badass I really like her!!

Oh, I hate No Way Home. It was more of a collection of cameos than a film.

I was not prepared for how nerd-cute he was.

@@vysharra Right? secret hottie all this time

I almost forgot this movie exists, that is until I stopped by my local Mcdonalds

For some reason I imagined them as the big Lebowski guy all this while 😂😂😂

Ninja looks like either Cosmonaut or The Weeknd

lmao

how…how…i mean he decided not to kill them because he suddenly conveniently remembered every had sex with her on the beach a few millennia ago and why would he kill himself instead of facing punishment it screams cowardice please try to convince me otherwise

@@beesknees5628 the myth of icarus is centred around arrogance and being overly ambitious. that mixed with the themes of family in this movie made it make a lot of sense to me. He was too ambitious in his power and in the end he realized that his ambition made him lose the one thing that actually mattered (his family). it wasn't necessarily about Sersi herself but rather her representing his most pure form of love for this family. He had made too many regrets and when he realized he couldn't turn back he decided to give up. And then flying into the sun was his punishment to himself (and fits in with the whole icarus greek myth)

same

Deaf 💀💀💀

I wouldn’t really give them credit for Druig because at the end of the day he is basically the Eternals’s version of Loki. When you look at it through that lens you can see that MCU Druig is a mix of Comic Loki with a Little of Comic Druig’s personality

I love this movie and Druig is my favourite too. No, I don't read the comics.

Sersi also loves instagram for some reason

@@lavenderfield01 hahahahaha idk why this made me laugh so much

Star Wars started with Episode 4. Sometimes you need to throw people into the epic middle of a story to get them hooked. A show or prequel could stil come later.

Deviants were so damn boring

@@fusiondog77 Difference is that episode 4 is still regarded as one of the best best Star Wars movies lmao

@@warriorzrisen if people's biggest complaint is that they didn't get enough of it, then it can't be that bad.

@@fusiondog77 It didn’t really feel like you were thrown into the action to me, though. It was going back and forth with flashbacks and different countries just to find the other Eternals and Arishem that to me really slowed the story down. It has too many plot threads that are underdeveloped or just abandoned that there never really feels like there is that great action.

Lmao I read “sorry Sersi” in Sprites crying voice and- 💀💀

Except they're not a family. They are robot coworkers who barely liked each other in the first place and broke up the minute their job was done. The idea that anything hinged on them being a "family" seems like a strawman projection. I think the story only works because we can believe the fractured distance between Ikaris and the rest. We would never believe ihis betrayal otherwise. All the rest of them had chemistry between their factions as expected.

Eh Shazam had this problem too, Billy barely interacts with the other kids aside from Freddy and kind of Darla

Shazam wasn’t a good or memorable movie.

I still enjoyed Shazam but my two problems with the movie were the main villain, and Billy didn’t interact with his foster siblings as much other than Freddy, but I hope that changes in the sequel where they all interact with each other to develop chemistry. But hey at least Shazam is the better Captain Marvel than Marvel’s Captain Marvel.

Main villain should have been Black Adam. Them the new Black Adam could be a sequel of sorts to Shamzam.

I'm 100% with you on this!

Nothing wrong with being an optimist, the problem is that Disney/ Marvel will still cram in a political agenda in their entertainment.

@@normadgarmez7026 yeah, that "political agenda" is pandering to the capitalistic neoliberal shills while actually spreading military propaganda in exchange for the millions the pentagon pays them to fund their media.

With what the ending of the movie sets up, it feels like the next movie will be more focused.

@@normadgarmez7026 there was no political agenda in eternals. It was definitely present in falcon and the winter soilder, but the eternals simply had a diverse cast with a gay character

I agree with all the above- minus Harry Styles. He stays!

Nobody seems to get that Ikaris was NOT SUPPOSED to have good chemistry with ANYBODY. Sersi was WITH Dane. She was OVER Ikaris. Which is why when Ikaris lost his faith int the Celestials he was so empty and adrift he chose to fly into the sun. He didn't realize he loved her and then try to stay to win her, he just realized the Celestials weren't worth killing her over. He didn't have her, the Celestials or anything at all at the end. Maybe there is a lesson there, but either way it feels pretty intentional to me.

@@fusiondog77 but they introduced Dane before Ikaris, so the whole movie when they we watched their relationship unfold, we knew they were exes and atleast Sersei seemed over it. Didn't really feel the betrayal when they revealed he killed Ajak and heartbrokeness he couldn't use his eye beams on Sersei.

@@blehh010 I feel like there were just enough breadcrumbs in place, that when they revealed he was told the secret it made sense that he had killed Ajak. He had the strongest connection to her, maybe cause of her maternal role to the team. Either way it seemed to be reciprocated as she chose him to lead at first. So I definitely felt his betrayal of her more than anyone else. I think the actor portrayed some real anguish over that, but then with that done, the rest of the betrayal was proforma. He had passed his emotional hurdle and committed himself to the distraction plan. It was only when pressed to the limit that he realized that even if it was over, at one point what he felt for her was a real thing and all he knew of the Celestials was lies. His heartbrokenes, to me, was more about the death of his faith in the Celestials than anything else. He had killed the only person he allowed himself to remain close to, Ajak, for something he realized at the end had no real substance to him. The vaporous lies of Arashem vs the tangible truth of a former love experienced and remembered.

@@fusiondog77 IKAROS was the best eternal!!! I realy enjoyed the powerful Ikaros and i am real sad that he killed himself!!! Ikaros saved the world!!! He could easily kill all the eternals and he could easily kill the woman he loves in the end of the movie! He could destroy earth but he change his mine at the end because he could not kill the woman he loves!!! What a great caracter!!! i love Ikaros and i will watch again and again that movie just because of Ikaros!!!

Like Julia Cudney's review of mean girls 2 where she keeps refering to the protagonist as "Tess from camp rock"💀😌

Exactly

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This felt way better than the first Avengers movies tbh. Different strokes I guess but I felt the first Avengers movies are incredibly lame

I feel the exact opposite. The Avengers movies always felt empty and shallow in terms of the characters and their interactions and relationships but the plot was entertaining. They never felt human to me. It always felt like the plot and action were more important and the character development was an afterthought. I feel that they never took enough time to focus on a characters motivation and feelings and thoughts but rather; go back on time, get and infinity stone, character moment that was pretty basic, go to the present, get tricked and fight. Even in the beginning of Endgame Tonys relationship with his family never felt real but like actors were pretending to be a family. They never explored deep ideas and topics when together. It was always just ,” I love you. *Crying* I hate you. *Hugging* He’s dead!! *Crying* Not like how a real family would interact with bickering and jokes and annoying one another and. It was always just love most of the time and a bear perfect family that got on along perfectly. It was kind of annoying actually. The Eternals felt like it’s plot in the begging was interesting with deviants but then became a bit bloated with the emergence and the minor subplots but then pulled itself together (mainly by focusing on the emergence). The characters however were MARVELous. The seemed like sibling with Ajack and Phastos being the parents and Makkari the cool track star Aunt. Their relationships had flaws with jealousy and love triangles and annoyance. They were so unsure how they felt at times and everyone had a very complex relationship with everyone else and those relationships changed. Take Sprite and Ikaris. It felt like they were just normal friends and that Sprite looked up to Ikaris but as time went on their relationship become a brother sister relationship then a one sided romance. It developed and changed ,rather negatively I might add, but that what was so beautiful. Nothing in life is as perfect and prim as it felt with the Avengers. Even if characters never liked one another it just stayed like that no resolution (apart from fighting) no talking no deep conversations…nothing. Or those scenes were few and far between which I won’t fault them for. When the Avengers defeated Thanos I was happy but for the world being saved and seeing Thanos lose. When (Spoiler) Thena killed King Kro I was happy not only because the world is safe from deviants but because Thena’s arch ended and she managed to avenge Gilgamesh. I just feel like these phases in Marvels films are made for different people.

@@artistaroundtheblock2047 Avengers 1 had great character development and is my fav MCU movie to date but I agree with you about the other Avengers movies. I don’t like them as a whole but that first one is special

Except they specifically address Thanos and non interference. Phastos felt responsible for Hiroshima. He didn't have any part in what he would see as a space stranger. No reason to collapse under the weight of your own guilt if you know you aren't guilty. It's apples and oranges.

@@fusiondog77 I realize they addressed it. I just think the way they addressed it was a total botch. I mean great: they actually took an active, albeit secondary role in the development of the bomb, but Is it about the safety and well being of humans, or is it about the personal moral equilibrium of robots who know they’re robots? If they care about human beings enough to wail and hair-rend when their guidance causes genocide and mass murder, you’d think they’d care enough to show up when billions of them are set to die all at once.

@@legzdiamond2356 I can see the general care for humanity aspect, but also since Sersi had no idea how powerful she was at the time, the only one with enough power to make a difference, who could have made it to Wakanda in time (the Battle of Wakanda was only a couple hours with no warning and the enemy LITERALLY falling out of the sky), was Ikaris. And he was never as close to humanity and had spent 500 years resolving himself to accepting the extinction of humanity as an inevitably. It is doubtful he would come even if he heard about it, which he probably wouldn't have since the rest of of world doesn't have news outlets in Wakanda. He would even known that halving the population would actually STOP the extinction of humanity from the Celestial egg, since it wouldn't have enough energy to hatch. If he knew the goal of Thanos, and primarily cared about humanity, he would have actually HELPED Thanos. If he had been aware of the fight he might have tried to stop Thanos specifically because he DID NOT care about humanity more than the Celestial seeds at the time. Though in the end I think there is VERY little chance any of them could have had foreknowledge of the attack in time to make an intervention, so it is a moot point.

IKAROS was the best eternal!!! I realy enjoyed the powerful Ikaros and i am real sad that he killed himself!!! Ikaros saved the world!!! He could easily kill all the eternals and he could easily kill the woman he loves in the end of the movie! He could destroy earth but he change his mine at the end because he could not kill the woman he loves!!! What a great caracter!!! i love Ikaros and i will watch again and again that movie just because of Ikaros!!!

Let’s be real here the moment this was announced after Thanos no amount of excuses would work. Matter of fact the whole story doesn’t work either way.

Omg yeees. I thought that Ajak lied about the deviants being a different species and were actually eternals that went rogue and were punished to become deviants. Welp, i was wrong

@@bluepancake1269 Right? It would’ve been a better ending realising that they’re more of the same and would’ve had a good message as well, I think… Probably too much of a radical move for Disney, though. Or they could’ve just been like nah Arishem bye we won’t keep killing them cause they have as much right for existence as we do we’re just gonna try and keep them in line or something. Idk this had so much unexplored potential…and I think they wasted it

Cult 🤣 And I agree. He was always just so shady. I mean Thena, Ajack and Druig were all shady but just in a way that they would be opposed to the Eternals’ plans all the time not that they would try to kill their family. Ikaris on the other hand gave me murderer vibes!!

What's funny is that he was the winter soldier in captain America 😆 🤣

Convoluted how? Personally it's my best mcu movie since Infinity War. Absolutely loved it. Really refreshing. Just thinking of the bore fest template that was Shang Chi is giving me a headache.

"THE MCU is too big", the marvel comics universe is way bigger than the MCU hands down, there are so many alternate timelines, dimensions, universes and monsters, the MCU hasn't even started yet, trust me Kang isn't even the peak of big.

@@comedygod522 right? If they can't handle just this then maybe they should just stop making movies and stick to comics. It will be very sad if the MCU died a slow painful death.

@@comedygod522 the MCU is still too big, the comics are easier to digest bc it's not the same media.

@@emma-rdgs "too big", no it's not and the comics are NOT easier to digest, there are still many questions people have on shit that people have known for years.

@@comedygod522 It is easier to digest bc the story is always more complete and takes the time to be developed correctly (even if they drag it too much sometimes with thousand of comics). This is hard to do in movies, bc you only have 2hours to introduce the characters and tell the story, but it's not impossible : the avengers worked well bc the characters all had atleast one movie dedicated to them with only one villain to fight in a reasonably expanded universe. So when I say the MCU is too big, I mean that it's shoving 10 new characters per movie without giving them any depths and expand the universe to much.

IKAROS was the best eternal!!! I realy enjoyed the powerful Ikaros and i am real sad that he killed himself!!! Ikaros saved the world!!! He could easily kill all the eternals and he could easily kill the woman he loves in the end of the movie! He could destroy earth but he change his mine at the end because he could not kill the woman he loves!!! What a great caracter!!! i love Ikaros and i will watch again and again that movie just because of Ikaros!!!

The hatred for the last jedi is easy to understand: it ignores the characterization of Luke and Leia in the return of the jedi and has no consequences for the main characters at the end, making everything easy to solve.

@@enzojose4001 Space Ninja said “peaceful conversations” in the comments. As so any concersation about the last jedi cant be peaceful. Lets just agree to disagree.

@@fabiicaza1066 I offended you at some point? I just said why people don't like the last jedi. Peaceful conversation doens't mean "you can't talk about anything that you din't liked".

@@enzojose4001 hahaha no i am not offended at all. I just find that when it comes to the last jedi, people have very strong feelings about it and its hard to have conversations about it. I understand thats the reason people dont like the last jedi. They feel luke and leia dont feel like themselfs, and that fine. I personally like the direction they took with the caracters, its a more cynical aproach to the series but i enjoy it. For luke in particular, it feels like a natural progession for his caracter. To with age grow more cynical and to question the ways of the jedi. Besides the casino section of the movie, i think its a good movie and dont think in needs to be “erased from canon” like many fans say. (That should be The rise of skywalker but that a whole other thing). Like i mentioned, i understand the dislike and why people dont like it. But i feel that the INTENSE hatred is a bit much. Just like Eternals.

@@fabiicaza1066 he didn't say anything to offended you. But he is right there its easy to understand why people hate the last jedi. Eternals is a mixed bag for most. There are things to like about and others not so much. I can't say the same for the last jedi though

True , people were freaking out before the movie even came out because of the diverse characters in it calling it propaganda , but what are they supposed to do , continue featuring majorly white characters till the end of time?

you shouldnt listen to critics in general.... they are all bought and paid for!

Me too!

@@gremlinprincess the most complaints I've heard is it's too many characters for a movie like this. Tbh I don't think most people remembered about the diversity part. But I will say critics hating this movie surprised me considering their track record these past few years

@@gremlinprincess I think it had less to do with diversity with most people(including me) and more about it being an okay movie. That's because it was so jerked off by most people that we all expected an amazing movie. The potential they had was insane. Think about the actors and the director. All amazing people. Just didn't live up to the hype.

It doesn't matter because the Eternals are just made, so the Celestials have just to make a new Ikaris and just like that Marvel have his Ikaris (and a "good" one) again. So esay.

I think it's better to look at a Ikaris somebody that they could do whatever it takes. However, thought and action are two different things. After getting two of his family members killed it was the only way to atone. Not to mention Phastos or Thena would have killed him.

Ikaris definitely didn't die. It's the comic rule, no body probably not dead

@@aureliekika So easy. Barely an inconvenience.

@@s.t2575 How is taking the cowards' way out by committing suicide actually atoning for his sins? Wouldn't atonement actually mean trying to make up for his shortcomings? Actively work to make up for his past actions? Maybe devote himself to defending humanity as Ajak and Gilgamesh probably would've wanted? That sounds like better options than just milking himself.

exactly, it seems like cause it’s marvel they tolerate it but as you said, with TASM they just started talking bad stuff all the time

True. See The Fellowship of the Ring, for example. It's part of a trilogy but it's completely satisfying as an independent movie and there aren't excuses of "oh, this will be better developed in the sequels, I promise you".

I agree, but you have to admit that some Marvel movies started off really badly and ended up having good sequels that served the MCU, I don't think it's just because it's Marvel that people are tolerating that. It's because it actually happened that a franchise had a modest beginning and became much better. But yes when we speak about the movie itself, the fact that it's setting up everything shouldn't be an excuse for it not to be good.

Same here. Start off with a series of great movies before setting up a universe.

@@Ratchet2431 I always think Lord of the Rings is a bad example as, one, it was litterally written as one huge book in it's original format, and two where it was going was already many years done before the Peter Jackson movies were even in Peter Jackson's rough script process. And three, the audience knew it was part one of three which gave them different expectations entering the experience. That being said, movies that just set up other movies, even when done well, are getting on my nerves. If you build an intriguing story with good characters I am going to enjoy that story AND want more. Even if a sequel or future installment redeems a past work. The fact that work couldn't stand on it's own still makes that previous work incomplete and flawed.

I am a huge marvel fan but you’re 100% right about the trailer! I felt like something was off about it and I wasn’t too hyped for it. I had a gut feeling it wasn’t gonna be great. The trailer felt somewhat…cheesy? At least for me. And also it didn’t wow me too.

I think the trailer was made for the fan of the comics rather than the rest of the people...

Totally agree!

I think the Ikaris-Sersei situation wasn't as compelling. I felt bad for Makkari when she thought Druig died and for Thena MORE than Sersei being betrayed, even though that plot was focal

@@blehh010 moreso I felt more about the Deviants and even Ikaris than Sersi

'why does kingo leave before the climactic battle?' bc he agrees with Ikarius but cannot make himself fight others. Also, he thinks Ikarius is so much stronger that he will win. I mean, it is said in the film why he did it.

This riverdale video is incredible

He posted his picture in community tab on youtube if you wanna look his more photos its there in ig i think