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Ethan Obliterates Oli London In BRUTAL Debate 

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@wrenbriggs8945
@wrenbriggs8945 Год назад
The silence after “Caitlin Jenner who ran someone over” was deafening
@AlexandraKeener
@AlexandraKeener Год назад
I could hear the crickets from 500 miles away 😂
@lotanowo
@lotanowo 10 месяцев назад
WHAT!!?? Can't hear shit
@moebie
@moebie 10 месяцев назад
“UM YEAH I HAVE A NEW BOOK COMING OUT” 💀
@Mari-il4bw
@Mari-il4bw 6 месяцев назад
That sent me lmao 🤣
@TylerBR97
@TylerBR97 6 месяцев назад
IT LITERALLY LOOKED LIKE EDITING STRAIGHT OUT OF KEEPING UP WITH THE KARDASHIANS WITHOUT THE MUSIC 😭😭😭😭😂
@berrywitch8930
@berrywitch8930 Год назад
My aunt was a drag queen. I adore him. I don't have a single bad memory of he himself. His death was terrible but i adored him. He would come over every few weeks to our house and get ready for shows he would do. We loved it. My mom and him would make it like a party. We had snacks and he would do tattoos on us with make up. He would paint our toes nails for us. He was the first person to paint my nails black and I've never looked back sense. I remember being so excited that he used eye shadows and lip liner to draw mermaid scales all down my arm once. I felt so pretty. He gave us so much love and joy. We never went to the shows he did as they were in bars. He did show us dances and songs he would do in drag and we loved it. A tattoo party with pop corn and dancing we loved it. I really do not understand people wanting kids to be kept from knowing of drag queens and kings.
@justanothercomment
@justanothercomment Год назад
Those are some beautiful memories, thank you for sharing
@rosetoyitis
@rosetoyitis Год назад
this made me emotional 🥲❤ love
@cherryblossom7120
@cherryblossom7120 Год назад
As nice as your memories are, there not the same for everyone's kid in today's time. Times have changed where everyone are trying con their way to get something or someone.
@berrywitch8930
@berrywitch8930 Год назад
@@cherryblossom7120 you sound mentally ill
@lemmymeringue8528
@lemmymeringue8528 11 месяцев назад
​@@cherryblossom7120Nah that's not true. I and a lot of people I know aren't simply out here with secret agendas
@multiBurnfire
@multiBurnfire Год назад
“You’re making so many claims and I just want to check each one”… a line that’s every republican’s worst nightmare
@Ethan-ee8rv
@Ethan-ee8rv Год назад
The “my issue is with trans activists and not trans people” argument is so disingenuous. I’m trans and I find some activists annoying, but what Oil’s saying is about trans people as a whole. He even blamed trans people for the recent school shooting which is so vile.
@tmontoya4994
@tmontoya4994 Год назад
It’s like when people are trying to completely eradicate you and your identity, existing is activism.
@paulaxa1
@paulaxa1 Год назад
Yeah this is so annoying, many people do this even in every day life. They start their argument by saying shit like "trans people want to make kids change gender", and after asking these people questions they end up saying "yeah few trans activists do this is what i mean, not all trans people". Like if you know it's few people who do this, why even mention this every time you talk about a minority..
@daddyalex1017
@daddyalex1017 10 месяцев назад
@@NoName736yea like dylan mulvaney right lol
@lotanowo
@lotanowo 10 месяцев назад
I mean, it was a trans person who shot up the school. When a white person does it, white supremacy is blamed.
@anonanon8794
@anonanon8794 10 месяцев назад
literally not what he said but ok
@CocoaMoloko
@CocoaMoloko Год назад
this guy keeps saying he fully supports trans adults but i don't think i've seen a single tweet from him using a correct pronouns for a trans person ever. he's been talking about the whole bud light thing since it start and has been misgendering dylan mulvaney, when she did literally nothing except get a can of beer
@weedlechu
@weedlechu 8 месяцев назад
Yeah I've seen Oli's tweets for a while now and thought he went completely off the deep end being against trans people but his ideas on this podcast didn't reflect that at all. If he would be more specific in showing support for trans people as a whole but still call out the bad activists I would be on his side more. With the way he talks on twitter now he's hooked a whole very far right community that supports him and overall uplifts a lot of hatred for trans people. Whether that's his intention or not he still has caused a lot of harm for the trans community unfortunately.
@kurziieee
@kurziieee 7 месяцев назад
You have to be insane if you see Dylan as a woman, he literally couldn't be further from a woman. Nothing, absolutely nothing about Dylan even remotely resembles a woman.
@CorporalGrievous93
@CorporalGrievous93 Год назад
As an attorney, Oli got crushed in this line of questioning. The especially embarrassing segment in my estimation is the inability to even TRY to defend the Catholic Church vs drag shows. “I’ll just always be around my kids”. Brilliant solution available to everyone…
@unapologeticallyb5068
@unapologeticallyb5068 Год назад
Not oli hitting the same points as Trisha
@MyselftheElf
@MyselftheElf 10 месяцев назад
​@@unapologeticallyb5068glad I wasn't the only one who caught this
@flowergirl5336
@flowergirl5336 5 месяцев назад
What happened there ​@@unapologeticallyb5068
@milomoon1374
@milomoon1374 3 месяца назад
Right 👀 I’m in school to become an attorney, and I’m over here taking notes on the incredible flow of questioning. The way he knows when to drop and pivot is brilliant. I’m trying to learn at what point can I be certain that the jury knows that the witness is full of bullshit
@milomoon1374
@milomoon1374 3 месяца назад
Also, Ollie needs to learn the difference between hypothetical and theoretical
@itsfreezyfbaby
@itsfreezyfbaby Год назад
the rainbow fish has literally nothing to do with being gay lmao
@samanthaM7119
@samanthaM7119 Год назад
Wrong! It has rainbow in the title and that’s apart of the gay agenda /sarc
@JyusiKkuchi
@JyusiKkuchi Год назад
Yet they haven't read the book as well smh
@spaceyjacey_
@spaceyjacey_ Год назад
Ikr 😂 I was dying laughing when Ethan kept saying “it’s the rainbow fish…”
@PrincessDalathiel
@PrincessDalathiel Год назад
I think this proves oli can't read lol everyone knows rainbow fish
@mcmoffn
@mcmoffn 9 месяцев назад
No no he's def onto something: rainbow-flag... rainbow-fish🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨 ooooooohhhh😯😯😯😯😯
@jenavyangelys
@jenavyangelys Год назад
ending with “ur a demon” 💀 literally perfect!
@Broccolilover
@Broccolilover Год назад
i dont understand why advocating for one thing has to cancel another. if he really cared about detransitioners he would be looking for solutions to help trans people or people who are confused make the right desitions. his work would be constructive. he would recognize the benefits of transitioning for a lot of people. he seems to think that just because he does everything for attention and money, that everybody else does the same thing. he projects big time.
@crungus__
@crungus__ Год назад
Ethan going from “I’m not much of a debate guy” on Crowder’s show to this vicious goblin of truth dominating the battleground of ideas is impressive
@noelani4101
@noelani4101 Год назад
Honestly!!!!
@rowstyles
@rowstyles Год назад
i mean, oli is sort of a layup tho
@ordohereticus3427
@ordohereticus3427 10 месяцев назад
@@rowstylesalso true.
@phoenixvance6642
@phoenixvance6642 6 месяцев назад
​@@rowstylesIDK, Oli's pretty good at circling around rebuttals and gishgalloping his rhetoric, and he frankly makes an excellent alt-right mouthpiece. Combining that with leveraging his history as a mentally unstable "former one of them" is also pretty cunning, since he can serve as a living anecdote of "see?! Those people are unstable lunatics!". If who Oli was discussing trans rights with was more tactful and wasn't prepared to dismantle every ounce of BS as it came out (FOX echochamber), he could have looked very compelling to anyone with a weaker epistemology and who was unfamiliar with the issue. I don't normally watch h3h3, so idk if he's always on the ball, but Ethan was absolutely spectacular the whole way through. He hit some brutal counterarguments, showed receipts and research statistics, and overall did an incredible job showing that charismatic grifter's true colours as a complete sociopathic idiot.
@fortysage8818
@fortysage8818 4 месяца назад
Vicious goblin of truth is so perfect and I love it 😂
@mophead1666
@mophead1666 Год назад
Oh my God... I just realized. Ethan's debate style is so similar to Norm Macdonald's comedy style. He just keeps setting up traps and then they fall for it.
@JennyofOldStones713
@JennyofOldStones713 Год назад
Don’t insult the late, great Norm MacDonald like that.
@meghan2575
@meghan2575 Год назад
I read the Finnish study and they literally say "Programs that promote gender diversity should be implemented in schools and in larger context in the society with the aim of reducing heteronormativity and promoting the acceptance of gender diversity."....Like....The point went RIGHT over Oli's head..
@garysanders8350
@garysanders8350 11 месяцев назад
That's not bias at all... You know about the importance of a birth rate and death rate right?
@etjetjtej5820
@etjetjtej5820 10 месяцев назад
he is right tht the hormones are harmful for your body and children dont have the ability to understand those decisions yet, not the exact same but i thought i was gay as a child but when i became an adult i found im actually straight.
@bailecordova8196
@bailecordova8196 Год назад
I’ve read the rainbow fish book as a kid in 1998 and it’s about this rainbow fish giving his colorful scales to his friends until he only has one left and all of his friends come back and give him the scales back to make him whole again it’s about giving and taking in any type of relationship you have to give your self to others as much as they give to you etc. it’s not harmful in anyways way!
@ryleeuebinger456
@ryleeuebinger456 Год назад
Well you know people like this get triggered at just the thought of a rainbow, Can't spread the gay lmao
@This_RuthIsOnFire
@This_RuthIsOnFire Год назад
Read multiple times when I was a kid and I’m still a cis-gender heterosexual. Must be doing something wrong, lol.
@ryleeuebinger456
@ryleeuebinger456 Год назад
@@This_RuthIsOnFire FUCK PLAN B, WE MISSED ONE
@ts4743
@ts4743 Год назад
Same when he said that about rainbow fish I was like wtf how does he not know rainbow fish lmao maybe he’s a little older than us idk
@This_RuthIsOnFire
@This_RuthIsOnFire Год назад
@@ts4743 I am 6 years older than Oli, don’t do calculations lol, I’m… not discussing my age here.
@Latakis
@Latakis Год назад
As a trans kid that was not allowed to start hormones until I turned 16 I can garante that waiting 4 years to start my medical transition almost ended with me.
@zackbarker2922
@zackbarker2922 Год назад
It’s nice seeing people so fiercely stick up for us trans people
@oliverwillard2328
@oliverwillard2328 Год назад
Fr it’s so nice we have allies with such big platforms standing up for us
@estrangedstrayed6274
@estrangedstrayed6274 Год назад
I wouldn't go so far as calling Ethan an ally outright but this takedown was good and necessary
@courtneyr214
@courtneyr214 Год назад
You mean Oli right? Anyone who pushes children to be chemically castrated is NO ally.
@sarahdalley2614
@sarahdalley2614 Год назад
I dont know any trans people personally, but if we needed a march in New Zealand, I'd be there in a heartbeat. But the only terf that opened their mouth in our country, got ran out. Our country generally accepts.
@yuulfuji
@yuulfuji Год назад
@@sarahdalley2614tysm for being an ally ❤️❤️
@loganl3746
@loganl3746 Год назад
Kids can't consent to getting their wisdom teeth removed, so let's leave them with horrible pain and permant damage to their jaws and teeth until their turn 18. Then they can try to fix some of it and work around the irrevesible changes that were allowed to happen 😕
@leae3750
@leae3750 Год назад
I know you aren’t comparing chemically castrating/ double mastectomying kids to getting wisdom teeth pulled
@ometta7
@ometta7 Год назад
​@@leae3750 Surgery is surgery.
@kirakoraawesome
@kirakoraawesome Год назад
TRUEEE
@sstellr
@sstellr Год назад
@@leae3750 one is life saving and one is about teeth
@courtneyr214
@courtneyr214 Год назад
Stupid argument.
@livingroomrat3224
@livingroomrat3224 Год назад
I like Oli focuses on the fact that people are making money from people transitioning. It's interesting that that is what he focuses on because it is in no way a critique of being transgender. I am transgender and do I like the fact that hospitals may benefit from me wanting to transition? No of course not but that's because I don't like capitalism. it's almost like it's a critique of the wrong thing
@sophiatrocentraisin
@sophiatrocentraisin Год назад
Loved Oli's blue screen when Ethan advocated for free healthcare
@strangejune
@strangejune Год назад
​@@sophiatrocentraisin Watching almost two hours of this stream of anti-trans rhetoric was all instantly made worth it when I saw that.
@strangejune
@strangejune Год назад
Yeah, like the medical industry aren't already infamously overcharging for things that *aren't* trans-related. He doesn't seem too concerned about that, though.
@leahdesmondart
@leahdesmondart Год назад
I just don’t understand how Oli can admit they have such a trouble with their identity, and have had a clear life long struggle with it? But still thinks after just a few months of being in their current identity they feel the right to give anyone else, let alone families, mothers fathers and children advice struggling through the same thing, it’s just shameful. This person needs to work on themselves and gain just a sliver of self awareness. Even then, maybe just STFU Oli. Honestly.
@giantturd5157
@giantturd5157 Год назад
He
@salmon1461
@salmon1461 Год назад
he's a grifter, being transphobic is profitable.
@jacobturner8965
@jacobturner8965 Год назад
💸💰💲🤑🫰💵
@roronoa_raf2201
@roronoa_raf2201 Год назад
@@giantturd5157 they is a gender neutral pronoun and is being implemented correctly. Cmon now we learned pronouns in primary school.
@Sellons
@Sellons Год назад
Because it’s mostly about getting attention, however they can get it. It’s why Oli can’t actually answer any questions and they just repeat the same talking points when Ethan is asking questions. Oli doesn’t really believe it but they’ve been in the public eye getting attention for so long it’s hard to let that go. And because Oli has been maintaining relevancy at times saying some pretty controversial things (like identifying as Korean) they are wiling to keep that relevancy by whatever means necessary. That is how Oli has ended up throwing their own community into, quite frankly danger spreading this easily disproved right wing qanon propaganda.
@Malamitte
@Malamitte Год назад
I’m a trans person. I transitioned at 16 medically and had surgery at 17. If I didn’t transition, I wouldn’t have made it to 18. It’s that simple.
@leae3750
@leae3750 Год назад
Are regretful young detransitioners valid to you
@mossyteef
@mossyteef Год назад
@@leae3750 idk why they wouldn’t be just as valid as people who feel good about their transition
@Bec_love
@Bec_love Год назад
That doesn't sound simple at all. It's really dark and complex if you unpack it.
@strangejune
@strangejune Год назад
​@@leae3750 Have you ever spoken to someone who has detransitioned? They are overwhelmingly supportive of trans rights.
@Malamitte
@Malamitte Год назад
⁠@@leae3750 where did I say anything about detransitioners in my comment? I’m talking about my experience as a trans person
@8r0k3n1
@8r0k3n1 Год назад
I came here from a reaction vid and just had to say, Ethan my respect for you has just increased 10 fold. You nailed him with arguments, found all the receipts and did a great job with the research. The only thing that I think needed a bit more focus was that gender affirming care in children is nearly always just support and social transitions. It drives me crazy that they keep harping on about supposed irreversible body mutilation of children and even them being put on hormones when that rarely happens and only in the most extreme of cases. Social transition is completely seperate to that.
@Jeremy-wp4yh
@Jeremy-wp4yh 8 месяцев назад
There are 16 year Olds who have had mastectomies. Also puberty blockers are irreversible because the effects on bones and development cannot be reversed. Once you miss your puberty window it's irreversible. It was intended for precocious puberty not to delay it
@bluflame4847
@bluflame4847 4 месяца назад
@@Jeremy-wp4yhoh great here comes the youtube comment pseudo-medical professionals 😂 “puberty blockers are irreversible” going to stop you right there because you have no idea what youre talking about.
@Jeremy-wp4yh
@Jeremy-wp4yh 4 месяца назад
@@bluflame4847 you don't even know what they are. They're intended for prepubescent teens. It's not indicated to delay puberty. Delaying puberty has consequences. Hence you don't know what you're saying. Get your degree in MBS first. Stop trying to act smart
@kimberleygolddust8406
@kimberleygolddust8406 Год назад
The lunchbox conversation highlights Oli’s grift. It’s all for the money.
@kimberleygolddust8406
@kimberleygolddust8406 Год назад
Lots of money to be made by being the anti trans influencer. The right can’t get enough.
@bopshi
@bopshi Год назад
Ethan talking about Oli’s grift for an hour really highlights Ethan’s grift
@williamhornabrook8081
@williamhornabrook8081 Год назад
Who TF is buying an Oli London lunchbox lol? I think kids want Spiderman or Barbie on their lunchboxes, not the wackiest detransitioner.
@roronoa_raf2201
@roronoa_raf2201 Год назад
@@bopshi what is he grifting? I don’t see Ethan selling his soul for money like Oily
@LazarheaD
@LazarheaD Год назад
By Ethan's own logic, Oli is a grifter and doing all of it for money and fame, Trisha is a grifter and doing it for money and fame. Yes Ethan, that is the problem. It's a trend and it's practical to turn your child into a goldmine or trans yourself for fame and money.
@Leon-burriton
@Leon-burriton Год назад
OMG This is the best interview i've ever seen. It's like a dream argument to be so prepared to shut down every transphobic argument so thoroughly. Thank you, much love from a trans man ♥
@kennyeatsthedirt
@kennyeatsthedirt 6 месяцев назад
Literally this was so satisfying to watch
@phoenixvance6642
@phoenixvance6642 6 месяцев назад
I teared up when he got to the point where he deduced Oli endorsed child suicide, the ultimate consequence of all this. Seeing someone actually boil down his thoughts into an unobjectionable statement and throw it back into his face unfiltered was so cathartic, but also sickening when he tried to stand by his views. "If trans healthcare is made illegal, kids will off themselves. You want trans healthcare to be outlawed. Therefore, you want kids to off themselves." Oli agreed to every premise that led to that conclusion, there was nothing he could do but squirm on camera. He'll rely on his cognitive dissonance or simply not care due to secret, antisocial inner-thoughts or some shit to morally absolve himself, which is tragic. I would move to a remote forest and never show my face to another human again if I got assblasted that badly.
@baddie4daddie
@baddie4daddie Год назад
Not even 30 minutes in and oli says Rainbow fish has secret messaging but his lunch box does not😂
@gaviperryman8286
@gaviperryman8286 Год назад
"I just don't think kids should be anywhere where that is putting ideas into their heads." There it is. The right wants kids to not think. It's all about control.
@Natttttttttt
@Natttttttttt Год назад
As much as Oli is unqualified to talk about this, from a standpoint of why should we mutilate our bodies to feel comfortable with ourselves? It’s like plastic surgery for cosmetic reasons, the more people do it the more normalised it is. And that’s not a healthy thing. Modifying our bodies has a lot of implications and I don’t think a society which normalises boys and girls ruining their reproductive capabilities because they’re following a fad is healthy. Yea there might be some who are genuinely suicidal if they don’t transition but I’ve also heard of some that were just mentally unwell and when they got better they realised they’ve ruined their bodies and detransitioned but had permanent damage. If you think the collateral damage is worth it I can’t ever get on your side about that that’s psychotic 🤷🏻‍♀️
@TurkishToprak
@TurkishToprak Год назад
Delusional. Thank God people are waking up
@viktort.6415
@viktort.6415 Год назад
? Kids don't have the ability to be aware of themselves let alone the ability to think their own thoughts at a certain age, besides we don't allow them to drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, weed or have sex and same should go for letting parents making them take life altering permanent and irreversible change before the age of 18.
@DChevy98
@DChevy98 Год назад
@@viktort.6415 the age of consent doesn’t prevent them from having sex before 18
@mshoney9301
@mshoney9301 Год назад
@@viktort.6415 Ethan already addressed this argument in the debate...
@kenz7078
@kenz7078 Год назад
When Ethan read out Oli’s tweet, all I could think is “ALL WE WANNA DO IS LIVE FREELY AND TEACH OTHERS THEY CAN BE THEMSELVES” which doesn’t harm anyone.
@joethehobo89yt24
@joethehobo89yt24 Год назад
I love how you can see Oli changing his personality for every interview he does based on what he thinks will cause the most attention from the audience. Oli is a grifter who uses outrage for fame. Once the novelty of him fetishizing Korean people ran out and people stopped talking about him he becomes a born again Christian lobbying against trans rights and has a new memoir to sell. Do I think Oli truly believes the transphobic talking points he's memorized for these interviews? No. But he's still willing to endanger trans people for attention. He'll be back with a new memoir in a few years with a new grift and a new pivot to get people talking. I hope next time people don't fall for it and we finally end the cycle.
@drecckk8464
@drecckk8464 Год назад
I think this episode highlights what makes this show deceivingly good at battling grifters. They would usually avoid a confrontation like this, but because Ethen and the whole H3 crew come across as such blue collar classic youtubers, people think they can come on the show and get an easy slam dank. Turns out they're playing against Micheal Jordan in a game of street rules
@hughmungus7015
@hughmungus7015 Год назад
So oli was speaking to the parents of trans kids... Maybe they should have a talk to my parents! ask them about how my life has been before and during my transition. I think youll find that i was a bitter wretch before i transitioned who hated everyone, and above all myself. I was like that because i was developing incorrectly, i saw myself grow into more of a male monster every day. And ask them what i am like now. I dont hate myself, i see my body as right as it'll ever be. Those around me would say that im kind. My parents would say that ive never been happier or more beautiful. Do you think that all of that is worth throwing away simply because i started hormone blockers at 16? Is it truly worth it to throw away how better of a person i have become simply because i am (temporarily) infertile as a side effect of my life-saving medicine?
@joethehobo89yt24
@joethehobo89yt24 Год назад
40:06 lol, I love how Oli accidentally trapped himself into claiming trans people are too "scared" to detransition but coming out as trans was no biggie. Because it's SO scary to be cisgendered, huh. Rookie mistake, Oli! Other grifters are WAY better at this than you are.
@strangejune
@strangejune Год назад
Yeah, it reminds me of the arguments that people transition to "have it easier in life" or something like that. I don't think Oli did this in this interview, but I'm pretty sure Rowling has said this. Like, you really think trans people have it so easy, especially in this climate?
@alfredorodriguezdc
@alfredorodriguezdc Год назад
The logic is that coming out as trans is encouraged by the left in order to be your true self or wtvr but if you have doubts about it and wish to detransition its not rlly encouraged as much yano the river only flows one way
@sweetfry
@sweetfry Год назад
23:00 the lunchbox is literally doing an AHEGAO face which is EXPLICITLY sexu
@cherryblossom7120
@cherryblossom7120 Год назад
​@@sweetfry that lunchbox looks creepy. Kpop companies know better then then to sell lunchboxes as merch.
@hecticfreeze
@hecticfreeze Год назад
Ethan performed so well in this one. Really proud of our boy. Stayed calm, called out any nonsense, and made Oli's position seem as obviously ridiculous as it is
@Pomshka
@Pomshka Год назад
Oli is so against sexual and gender ideology directed at children then we must remove any sections of films with Het couples kissing any reference to girl friends and boyfriends... Anything about sex, relationships etc. Nothing should be mentioned.
@albr4
@albr4 Год назад
sexualities like gay or heterosexual being shown is fine, showing those to kids will not lead them to have mental health issues or mistakenly believe they could be trans, which could cause them to have serious and damaging drugs/surgery.
@veganheathen7981
@veganheathen7981 Год назад
@Alba Newsflash: being exposed to trans people causes as much mental health issues as being exposed to gay people. That is, none.
@stxrstruck6755
@stxrstruck6755 Год назад
​@@albr4 Trans person here, I've seen so many cisgender movies and films and literally nothing about trans people growing up. How exactly was I indoctrinated? That makes no sense. If children seeing heterosexual couples and cisgender people doesn’t make then cishet maybe it's not the media.
@cambriaofthevastoceans6721
@cambriaofthevastoceans6721 Год назад
​@@albr4 bruh, you'd have been saying the exact same thing about gays 20 years ago. Just another frothing reactionary.
@PartnershipsForYou
@PartnershipsForYou 11 месяцев назад
^ incel
@unapologeticallyb5068
@unapologeticallyb5068 Год назад
This was really exhausting and just proves that there is no arguing with an idiot
@Ethan-ee8rv
@Ethan-ee8rv Год назад
It’s really sad. This debate is important to me, not just because it’s entertaining but because I don’t think Oli is incapable of change. He needs to understand why his actions are harmful and at the very very minimum, be more careful with broad generalisations in tweets.
@unapologeticallyb5068
@unapologeticallyb5068 Год назад
@@Ethan-ee8rv I genuinely think he knows exactly what he is doing, he knows he is wrong he knows he is lying. He just wants the money and attention, he is literally a professional troll
@courtneyr214
@courtneyr214 Год назад
You mean Ethan right? He literally doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
@unapologeticallyb5068
@unapologeticallyb5068 Год назад
@@courtneyr214 please for the love of whatever you believe in, get a basic education.
@harlothex3326
@harlothex3326 Год назад
​@Courtney R which of the two people in this video have several scientific articles that directly back up their claims?
@Ethan-ee8rv
@Ethan-ee8rv Год назад
I’m trans and I can’t help but feel sort of bad for Oli when he mentions the bullying and self esteem issues causing him to do so much extreme plastic surgery. I am upset with him for his harmful (intentional? Unintentional) tweets about trans people. One that really hurt was when he used the recent school shooting to blame trans people. I think people can change though and I hope he becomes better and happier.
@ninidecoss2633
@ninidecoss2633 Год назад
theres a lot of people justifying the shooting because supposedly its christians fault so i dont blame him much tbh
@Brando2301
@Brando2301 Год назад
​@@ninidecoss2633 okay, fine. Let's take two recent shootings (since there's now hundreds to pick from). One was a white supremacist who murdered an Asian family at a mall in Texas. Another is a trans person who murdered people at a Christian school. Both are evil, there's no doubt about it. If you want to bring identity into it, then one was a hate crime influenced by extremist perspectives on the internet. The other was a result of extreme bullying, internal and external stressors (being put down and forced to confirm to Christian standards), and potential sexual predation on the shooter. I am not justifying what happened, but is it not clear how the motivation behind one is spite, hate and racism, while the other is hate towards an institution that oppressed trans identities.
@strangejune
@strangejune Год назад
​@@Brando2301 I don't like framing it that way, because it assumes that being trans is or could be relevant in any way to the shooting. If gender identity correlates with likelihood to commit violence, it actually looks a lot worse for cis people, since they commit way more acts of violence and terrorism. Of course, arguing that being cis is a predisposition for violence is absurd. Just like it is the other way around.
@kennyeatsthedirt
@kennyeatsthedirt Год назад
Fr, he clearly has been through a lot and that doesn’t excuse anything he’s doing but I really do wish this guy can eventually find some inner peace cuz he clearly fighting some inner demons 💀
@ts4743
@ts4743 Год назад
@@ninidecoss2633 I’ve also seen terfs saying that it was justified bc the school was covering up SA of kids but nobody cares.
@milkiiitea9936
@milkiiitea9936 Год назад
Years ago, one of my dearest friends when we were both in high school attempted suicide before they were able to transition. Because they had access to gender affirming care afterwards, they’re alive today as an adult and living the life they always knew they were meant to live. Many trans youth don’t get to experience adulthood as their authentic selves because their suicide attempt as a child was successful. So yes, denying a suicidal trans kid gender affirming care IS leaving them to die. Being trans isn’t something they just “get over”. The whole “send them to therapy instead” sounds eerily similar to conversion therapy (which of course never worked, a huge amount people went on to kill themselves anyways) in my opinion.
@notcharliemills
@notcharliemills Год назад
the statistics don’t lie, gender affirming care stops suicide
@strangejune
@strangejune Год назад
I'm pretty sure conversion therapy actually makes attempts more likely.
@stevenecarrier
@stevenecarrier Год назад
Those Klein Kids are gonna be so proud of their dad when they watch this back in years to come. Ethan, this was incredible. You’re interviewing skills are thrilling. From The team’s support and the breath of your research, you’ve done something no MSN could. This was such an important thing to do and I’m so proud. Thank you for defending us, the lgbtq community but also humanity as a whole. Peace and love to you all at H3 ❤
@huntersimmons2560
@huntersimmons2560 Год назад
Good to know their dad is okay with them sterilizing themselves
@ts4743
@ts4743 Год назад
@@huntersimmons2560 this is propaganda
@Nick-jr9pc
@Nick-jr9pc 11 месяцев назад
​@@huntersimmons2560good to know you're in favor of kids killing themselves
@Starkandco
@Starkandco Год назад
"They're doing sexual things on stage, they have breasts" 🙄🙄🙄
@hecticfreeze
@hecticfreeze Год назад
You know Oli the type of guy to think breastfeeding is sexual 🙄
@Emma-tc8ji
@Emma-tc8ji Год назад
Some drag Queens do very sexual acts and jokes.
@Allypavy
@Allypavy Год назад
Children shouldn’t be exposed to naked men pretending to be women.
@Emma-tc8ji
@Emma-tc8ji Год назад
@@Allypavy I have never seen a naked drag queen in my life
@EmpressTiffanyOfBrittany
@EmpressTiffanyOfBrittany Год назад
@@Allypavy My mannish woman in christ I thought the whole point of drag shows was men DRESSING UP as women, not DRESSING DOWN? There's no drag shows with children present where they're just allowed to be naked, public nudity is still illegal even for LGBTQ+ people ya know.
@Johnny-wo4jn
@Johnny-wo4jn Год назад
Omg he calls himself a K-pop star 🤣🤣🤣
@cherryblossom7120
@cherryblossom7120 Год назад
Oh he was one... for 10 seconds.😂
@ajb1884
@ajb1884 Год назад
This video means so much. To watch such a succinct and persistent, brilliant break down of every single nonsense point that Oli made, is so satisfying. Im trans, ive been out for just over a decade, and i believe i have now met my own needs with my gender reassignment care at this point. I say this because a lot of the points Oli talks about here are the same as those ive had said to my face throughout my life since coming out. Points that on a surface level - and to those who couldnt know any better - sound at the very least reasonable, or even compassionate, but are ultimately the wolf in sheeps clothing. This whole growing anti trans rhetoric rn is very careful to try and cover up their erasure of trans lives as some kind of benevolent protection of children. Do not believe it. Thank you for putting so much preparation into this interview/debate/episode. And thank you for not pulling your punches when push comes to shove, either. ❤
@VasaYaga
@VasaYaga Год назад
There is no epidemic of children being given resources to transition. Accessible Gender Affirming Care is a variety of treatments, including talk therapy. Oli is changing his language here to be less vitriolic but he is supporting and advocating laws that would criminalize simply being gender non conforming or supporting gender non conforming kids. Trans people are not something to be feared or demonized. They are not inherently sexual or "adult".
@crispypudding
@crispypudding Год назад
Say that to the dead kids in the cov shooting 😒😒😒😒
@VasaYaga
@VasaYaga Год назад
@@crispypudding I'm not sure what that has to do with access to medical and mental health services, but go off I guess 🥰
@davidpilger4136
@davidpilger4136 Год назад
We need MUCH clearer language, especially in bills about what exactly gender-affirming care is. It can be anything from dressing a different way, a name change, to tens of thousands of dollars in surgery. It’s way too vague to have a meaningful discussion.
@WrangleMcDangle
@WrangleMcDangle Год назад
@@VasaYaga a troon who shouldve had talk therapy shot those children and YOU people hold up seven fingers to include the shooter as a victim. if god doesnt punish you, someone like me will.
@Glitch_in_the_Matrix
@Glitch_in_the_Matrix Год назад
50% of Zoomers are gender confused says some Far Right Chuds
@EthanBeer6
@EthanBeer6 Год назад
Oli is already posted edited clips of the interview to make himself sound better. Also for someone who is a “centrist” weird for him to criticize Ethan for being on the left
@IamBrixTM
@IamBrixTM Год назад
Very good point.
@ethannderyakabuski5749
@ethannderyakabuski5749 Год назад
​@@albr4Oli couldn't follow the basic logic ethan was putting forward, guess you can't either
@mrmagik6490
@mrmagik6490 Год назад
@@albr4 This is cope. Tell me where Ethan looked bad. Give an example.
@justintyler4814
@justintyler4814 Год назад
It's great though bc every leftist accusation means Ethan can't get called alt right anymore though
@TheMostDivine
@TheMostDivine Год назад
oli is right
@ethanisonline
@ethanisonline Год назад
oli london's room looks insane
@sweetums8148
@sweetums8148 Год назад
Thank god someone pointed out the horrific artwork. It looks like the worst waiting room in a dentist office. Also, hi Ethan !
@Yandhi2
@Yandhi2 Год назад
It must be a hotel room.
@Drummergamer97
@Drummergamer97 Год назад
1:29:25 - Literally is talking about the bible, Oli - "You cant take every line and treat it as gospel" The f do you mean, its literally the book of christ, thats the definition of gospel
@ItsJustValHere
@ItsJustValHere Год назад
I was so done at that point, like wtf did he think the Bible is suppose to be for a christian/catholic lmao
@sophiatrocentraisin
@sophiatrocentraisin Год назад
To be fair, the gospel is only the four first books of the new Testament (i.e. life and death of the oily carpenter boy and his twelve bros, who ends up nailed on some carpentry, resurecting then flying to the sky 50 days later)
@OPdbx
@OPdbx Год назад
I really had nothing against Oli. I know they are quite confused over all, and are maybe being used more than being an out right grifter like Matt Walsh or Steven Chowder. They are still happy to take the money either way lol. But GODAMN Ethan destroyed in this debate and left Oli COPING. Thank you Ethan!
@Ethan-ee8rv
@Ethan-ee8rv Год назад
Yeah I see this too. Oli does not seem stable and has spoken a lot about his self esteem issues. To be completely honest, I view his rapid change from views as attention seeking and grifty, but unlike people like Matt Walsh it probably stems from some kind of mental health problem. While I empathise with him for this, using the recent school shooting to make a point about trans people was absolutely inexcusable. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and I hope he grows from this experience. Sometimes people need to be humbled in order to see the truth. His “support” from conservatives is literally just because he is anti trans like them. They were laughing at him the same as we all were when he was “transracial”. These people likely know he is not all there in the head but they don’t care. He validates their views, that’s all they need. I’m not saying Oli needs to change ideologies completely or anything, but I really hope he understands the repercussions of his actions and becomes a better, happier person. He definitely needs a level of therapy that would cause his therapist to need a therapist though. 😂
@mossyteef
@mossyteef Год назад
Kind of like another Blair White ahhh
@rhianonelizabeth2461
@rhianonelizabeth2461 Год назад
It’s just clicked for me his name is Oli not oil
@agnosticii
@agnosticii Год назад
wrong. it's Oi Bruv London
@nina30591
@nina30591 11 месяцев назад
Ethan....you are an angel. Thank you for having voice of logic in this insane world ❤
@nyxtea
@nyxtea Год назад
Why is Ethan debating Jimin, the Korean, from BTS?
@chrissyweikoop7931
@chrissyweikoop7931 Год назад
i like how the "it should be free" comment broke olis brain.
@murrygondwana7260
@murrygondwana7260 Год назад
More children have been harmed in Uvalde school system than at any drag show.
@crispypudding
@crispypudding Год назад
And? Do you think that drag freaks kill people? Unless they infect someone with AIDS they don't kill people. They sexually assault kids and insult women
@alekhinesgun9997
@alekhinesgun9997 Год назад
Not psychologically 😬
@fastasyoucan420
@fastasyoucan420 Год назад
the last line being Ethan saying, "okay. you're a demon." is a better closer to this debate than i ever could have hoped for lmfao.
@drecckk8464
@drecckk8464 Год назад
"It seems to be the Rainbow Fish Oli"
@SoulRedness
@SoulRedness Год назад
It baffles my mind how he can't go the mile just to be relevant, how does he even live with himself?
@crownclowncreations
@crownclowncreations Год назад
Ethan absolutely TORE Oli a new one, and I am so here for it! Thank you so much for standing up for our trans brothers and sisters, Ethan.
@patrickdixon7202
@patrickdixon7202 Год назад
All he did was insult Oli.
@mannycastillo641
@mannycastillo641 6 месяцев назад
​@@patrickdixon7202if insulting includes dismantling every weak ass argument or fallacy
@crownclowncreations
@crownclowncreations 3 месяца назад
@@patrickdixon7202 If you say that I feel like you didn't watch the entire video. Ethan debunked every one of Oli's "facts", and provided real fact with real sourced, that Oli then danced around as much as he could. The fact that Ethan threw so much shade at a terrible grifter, is just a bonus.
@strangejune
@strangejune Год назад
I don't know if it's moderation or RU-vid censors (probably not) or what, but this comment section is shockingly decent for what this is. I came from Ty Turner's video for reference, but I've left a like here. Thanks for making this, trans people get pretty tired having to defend our right to exist all the time.
@teamakesgames
@teamakesgames Год назад
Didn't even get into the type of therapy Oli wants for kids who want to transition and shouldn't get support for their transition. It has a name: Conversaion Therapy - and it is considered torture.
@H2oes
@H2oes Год назад
Changing to look like Jimin… no stop Oli, you wasted your money. 💀
@CatieAndHerCats
@CatieAndHerCats Год назад
It gives the same energy as the red pillars that want to ban p0r n because they weren’t able to control themselves. Like no, you had a problem that you couldn’t control. That doesn’t mean we need to take it away from everyone else 😅
@cherryblossom7120
@cherryblossom7120 Год назад
I know, he's gonna aged horribly when he's goes 50.
@wormsonline9507
@wormsonline9507 Год назад
the frustration boiling over at the end after an hour of playing nice was needed. let them feel comfortable and then stab these people when they are vulnerable. people like this are subhuman
@FuckTheYoutubeUsernameChange
You did a lot of research for this one Ethan, and I genuinely appreciate it. Papa bless from the trans community.
@lydialuvs
@lydialuvs Год назад
He doesnt want the indoctrination of trans ideology, but the indoctrination of straight ideology is fine?? What about kids participating in weddings or seeing straight couples kiss in public or on TV, learning about straight family structure in school..
@happyfatherof5164
@happyfatherof5164 Год назад
Every right-wing accusation is a confession 😅
@SRHtheHedgehog
@SRHtheHedgehog Год назад
"you see, it's not the individual Jew, but the international Jewry" same energy.
@jeremymcnair8082
@jeremymcnair8082 Год назад
im only 17 mins in and this is actually painful to watch. idk if i can keep going
@ms.bigbooty
@ms.bigbooty Год назад
Yeah this was bad
@blckk_croww
@blckk_croww Год назад
the ending is very satisfying trust me
@flowassss345
@flowassss345 Год назад
Yeah I’ve had to break it up into 20 minute segments I’m 40 in and just about can’t take any more 😂😂 he’s fighting for his lifeeeee
@Ethan-ee8rv
@Ethan-ee8rv Год назад
@@blckk_croww I’m not at the ending yet but for me, a satisfying ending would be Oli admitted he was wrong and promising to be more careful with generalising the trans community.
@claireisabella7898
@claireisabella7898 Год назад
this felt almost healing to hear and watch. this is what we need. not ppl who know all the "right" words or always say the "right" thing. that's not allyship-or at least not the allyship we need. we need people who will align themselves with our political interests and fight for us, WITH us, for equality, justice, liberation, etc. that's what a real ally is. it gives me hope to find ppl in sometimes unexpected places who are willing to take such a strong, unambiguous, impassioned stance (backed by research showing great care) on the important issues and refuse to concede or ignore the fear-mongering, conspiratorial hate movement being propagated. thank you thank you thank you!
@lydialuvs
@lydialuvs Год назад
He keeps saying studies dont matter because these clinics make so much money (which I'm skeptical), but isn't cancer like the biggest money making industry in the medical field??
@blooiee6389
@blooiee6389 Год назад
funny how people always use the same argument that queer media will “turn their kids gay” meanwhile i grew up watching movies and reading books about straight people getting married and having kids and yet im gay? wow makes so much sense right😂
@ElecTrishian924
@ElecTrishian924 Год назад
Man, Ethan completely nailed it here. That was an absolutely fantastic performance on his part. Of course, he was debating someone who wants kids to Roblox themselves
@clowheeler
@clowheeler Год назад
This person is railing against the wrong group. He should instead focus on the plastic surgery industry. Those people prey on vulnerable insecure folks to boost their portfolio. It's a classic trope that when you go in for something minor like lit filler or a deviated septum, they start marking your face showing all that's wrong with it that the doctor can fix. I'm not talking about plastic surgery for necessary reasons (eg. Breast ogmentation after double mastectomy from breast cancer) this person is absolutely fighting the wrong fight. They're not a victim of trans rights. They're a victim of careless surgeons who want to make money.
@oscarb4772
@oscarb4772 Год назад
It is so nice to see Oily getting handled properly
@8r0k3n1
@8r0k3n1 Год назад
This whole thing about drag queens is ridiculous too. A) most drag queens are cis-males who enjoy dressing up. B) it is ridiculous to be talking about kids seeing sexually provocative drag shows when what the right is trying to ban is drag queens reading innocent story books to children. Drag queens are awesome and most of them are vibrant, fun and know how to work a room. I would much rather hear a story from a drag queen than a boring librarian type (nothing against librarians just making a point).
@cherryblossom7120
@cherryblossom7120 Год назад
Or we can have cancer survivers, war vets, doctors, lawyers, amputees, elderly, environmentalists read to children instead.
@unknownuser_99
@unknownuser_99 Год назад
@@cherryblossom7120 Why not all of them?
@cherryblossom7120
@cherryblossom7120 Год назад
@@unknownuser_99 it should be about who can show educational value.
@J.N.T.N
@J.N.T.N Год назад
OALAY LONDOUN!
@mattH3ew
@mattH3ew Год назад
OLAY LONDOUN, GRIFT for MOUNAY and CLOUT do YAH?
@AynneMorison
@AynneMorison Год назад
I absolutely admire the way you stayed calm and on topic. The studies argument was spot on. Thank you for this kind of content. I've so missed genuine informed debate, even if only one side is actually informed.
@RONYN666
@RONYN666 Год назад
People siding with oli and just as delusional as him
@sayitwiryachest
@sayitwiryachest Год назад
it’s delusional to think it’s inappropriate for kids to transition & for kids shouldn’t be witness to drag shows??? got it.
@RONYN666
@RONYN666 Год назад
@@sayitwiryachest it's delusional to think there are thousands of kids medically transitioning and that there should be laws to ban and discriminate against them when it's low hundreds. Facts don't care about your feelings.
@albr4
@albr4 Год назад
@@RONYN666 even if it was in the low hundreds it doesn't make it any more ok. If you think a child should have this option then you're mentally ill and messed up in the head. If anything if the numbers are so low then everyone should have no problem getting a ban for this stuff since it doesn't affect everyone so much. It's inarguably wrong to allow a child to take medication or surgery for mental health reasons or body image issues, everyone knows that you only start being actually self aware and self-concious around the late teens (even in late teens you're not thinking straight and massively regret tons of things you did at that time when you're finally an adult), if there's a young child thinking about this stuff much earlier than that then it's pretty blatently obvious that the idea has been implanted by their parents or other sources. There's a reason why there are so many things that are illegal for under 18s or 21 to do, things that are 100x less serious than surgery or taking medication.
@veganheathen7981
@veganheathen7981 Год назад
@samuel bowens Correct. Because gender-affirming care is 99 times out of a 100 life-saving and drag is an art form.
@seanann91
@seanann91 Год назад
Then every football game with pretty cheerleaders and buff guys are all grooming events based on Oli's logic...
@LazarheaD
@LazarheaD Год назад
By Ethan's own logic, Oli is a grifter and doing all of it for money and fame, Trisha is a grifter and doing it for money and fame. Yes Ethan, that is the problem. It's a trend and it's practical to turn your child into a goldmine or trans yourself for fame and money.
@annierabbat3445
@annierabbat3445 Год назад
"..... But what do you make of this LUNCHBOX though????" LMAO
@doodlemonster2532
@doodlemonster2532 Год назад
I really appreciate Ethan taking the time to dismantle oli's 'argument', to defend us trans folk so enthusiastically :))
@alisonstevens7376
@alisonstevens7376 Год назад
Incredible job - truly. I am blown away by how well you prepared for this and then how you performed under pressure. Things are dire for trans folks and this was so, so important to do. Bless you ❤
@mossyteef
@mossyteef Год назад
All of my friends had to wait years for their hormones - I’m so confused lol.
@tishtash321
@tishtash321 Год назад
The cognitive dissonance is astounding
@aedric9777
@aedric9777 Год назад
Oli got dragged harder then a kid in a gorilla enclosure
@thecollector263
@thecollector263 Год назад
rip harambe :(
@v1v1d1ty
@v1v1d1ty Год назад
bruh. i can't comprehend how much mental gymnastics people like oli london have to do to come to their idiotic conclusions. it's crazy.
@finnabus633
@finnabus633 Год назад
Glad Ethan called Oli out on alot of dumb things😭
@overworkedcna412
@overworkedcna412 Год назад
Okay the _Rainbow Fish_ is like 30 years old and it's about being okay with who you are so....
@angelavalsechi4825
@angelavalsechi4825 Год назад
Any other dyslexia’s out there reading it as oil London. If it’s just me I’ll see myself out
@jeremias8650
@jeremias8650 Год назад
one and a half hour of straight up OBLITERATION. damn
@cawatrooper4278
@cawatrooper4278 Год назад
To be fair, in Oli's case and his case alone, I think being a dinosaur probably IS comparable to being trans. But that's just because the Penile reduction "K Pop Star" clearly just does things for attention.
@kristenallen6053
@kristenallen6053 Год назад
people literally don't understand the definition of "correlation" and "association". it literally means they can NOT determine causality or directionality, but rather that the two variables are linked in some way. WHAT way exactly is what is undetermined 🙄
@pelukiuz
@pelukiuz Год назад
Hearing ethan taking such a strong stance for the trans community feels so good. Its so great to hear people who care about trans issues with such a passion, thank you ethan for setting an example❤
@nothx8790
@nothx8790 Год назад
I have never respected an ally more than I do right now
@viktort.6415
@viktort.6415 Год назад
Oli is super confused
@lydialuvs
@lydialuvs Год назад
Oli really thinks kids shouldn't even learn what LGBT people are 💀 like its a fact they exist, why does oli not want kids to learn that they exist
@patrickdixon7202
@patrickdixon7202 Год назад
Worst LGBT argument.
@sarahcheever2229
@sarahcheever2229 Год назад
He's brainwashed by all of the propaganda and it shows when he's proven wrong after EVERY dumb thing he says. He sounds just like every Republican in the u.s.
@garysanders8350
@garysanders8350 11 месяцев назад
Because it's a sexual preference. The difference is about who they fuk.... Kids don't need to know that nuance
@oliverwillard2328
@oliverwillard2328 Год назад
Ah this whole time I thought I was just trans cause I was trans but I guess it’s cause I read the rainbow fish as a kid
@joancrawford1146
@joancrawford1146 10 месяцев назад
I will say that my coworker is the leader of her Daisy Troupe and had a drag show for them. They’re 8 years old and it seems a little complex to give them this kind of education. I’m a left leaning female and support all groups, I’m not coming from a place of judgement. I am confused as to why this is something 8 year olds need to be concerned about or aware of. Please education me, rather than attack me.
@CaffeinatedSquirrl
@CaffeinatedSquirrl 10 месяцев назад
It's not so much "needing" per se as it is healthy to expand a child's worldview. At their elementary and (somewhat) middle school age is when a child learns most about the world around them, and inevitably, the world has other people with other identities in it. Imo it slots directly in with learning about other religions and other lifestyles, because ultimately, drag is just the descriptor for a clothing choice for men. If women can wear men's clothing and not be called inappropriate so long as it's age appropriate, why can't it work the other way around? :) Hope this helps!
@rhianonelizabeth2461
@rhianonelizabeth2461 Год назад
If my kids ask me about transgendered people I’m going to tell them? Not just deny them information cause their young that doesn’t make it grooming Jesus Christ
@sukavuka
@sukavuka Год назад
I'm just amazed with this lunatics hypocrisy. Great interview calling out all the bs
@IMatchoNation
@IMatchoNation Год назад
This was súch an impressive evisceration, holy fucking shit. You're absolutely not a layup anymore bud; wow.
@someperson1809
@someperson1809 5 месяцев назад
Does anybody have the sources to the study for me, please? 🙏
@Koko._.pebbles
@Koko._.pebbles Год назад
Oli’s version of what I assume is Christianity, is terrible. He’s cherry picking, you can’t pick and chose what you want to believe, either you believe the entire Bible and that it’s Gods word and that yes a lot of things do not still apply today from the Old Testament, most of it does and it is a guide to live by, you can’t pick in choose what you do and don’t believe in that’s written in the Bible. Sheesh.
@kimberleygolddust8406
@kimberleygolddust8406 Год назад
All part of the grift, he knows his paying audience like to use their Christianity to cause harm.
@ItsJustValHere
@ItsJustValHere Год назад
I may have heard wrong, but I think he said something about being catholic? Either way, picking and choosing what is convenient for him is a huge BS move. Like yeah, it's an enormous book, of course there are good things. But you don't need to read the Bible to understand you should be kind to others.
@Koko._.pebbles
@Koko._.pebbles Год назад
@@ItsJustValHere ahh I see, if he is catholic that would make sense. I don’t mean this in a judgemental way, but catholics do have a tendency to cherry pick. And yes, he had me at first when he was talking about love, because in Christianity Love is huge, one of the things we are called to do is love our neighbor, and spread the love of Jesus, but then he lost me when he started saying that the Bible is old and some things don’t match today’s society.
@ItsJustValHere
@ItsJustValHere Год назад
@@Koko._.pebbles As someone who grew up in a catholic society and went to private catholic schools all her life, I agree with the cherry picking thing. We were encouraged to get to our own conclusions tho, which was nice. But yeah, the catholic church was almost done for (at least in my country) when they kept denying evolution and other scientific things just because the Bible said explicitly something different (it was a real phenomena that happened here at the end of the XIX and beginning of the XX century). So I personally believe that the Bible is so outdated that at least catholics feel like the only way to keep it relevant to today's world is cherry picking. I always got mad when they tried to use almost the same argument Oli said (that you can't take the whole Bible as gospel... like wtf do you think it's supposed to be?) to dismiss fucked up stuff on the Bible. Like yeah, maybe humans wrote wrong shit, but then you can question the validity of ALL the books.
@sophiatrocentraisin
@sophiatrocentraisin Год назад
There is an argument to be made that the old testament is mostly context, and the new testament is the actual important thing. More specifically, only the first four books of the new testament are litteral gospel, the rest is just stuff written by some dudes (including a few loooong letters of a very homophobic Paul to some other dudes; which is the only part of the bible which is actually and demonstrably homophobic)
@sunnylilme
@sunnylilme Год назад
Ollie is going to get defenseless members of his community killed or beaten. I'm a mama in lousina, folks here are SO TRIGGERED by gay/trans right now. They're holding Ollie up as proof. They're itching for violence against this community right now. I worry about their safety, especially in the south.
@felineenthusiast
@felineenthusiast Год назад
oily london destroyed with facts and logic
@lorenzootc
@lorenzootc Год назад
“Why are you gay?” “You are gay.”
@mossyteef
@mossyteef Год назад
Oli London is like a character straight out of South Park
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