Ethan Obliterates Oli London In BRUTAL Debate 

I could hear the crickets from 500 miles away 😂

WHAT!!?? Can't hear shit

“UM YEAH I HAVE A NEW BOOK COMING OUT” 💀

That sent me lmao 🤣

IT LITERALLY LOOKED LIKE EDITING STRAIGHT OUT OF KEEPING UP WITH THE KARDASHIANS WITHOUT THE MUSIC 😭😭😭😭😂

Yeah I've seen Oli's tweets for a while now and thought he went completely off the deep end being against trans people but his ideas on this podcast didn't reflect that at all. If he would be more specific in showing support for trans people as a whole but still call out the bad activists I would be on his side more. With the way he talks on twitter now he's hooked a whole very far right community that supports him and overall uplifts a lot of hatred for trans people. Whether that's his intention or not he still has caused a lot of harm for the trans community unfortunately.

You have to be insane if you see Dylan as a woman, he literally couldn't be further from a woman. Nothing, absolutely nothing about Dylan even remotely resembles a woman.

Those are some beautiful memories, thank you for sharing

this made me emotional 🥲❤ love

As nice as your memories are, there not the same for everyone's kid in today's time. Times have changed where everyone are trying con their way to get something or someone.

@@cherryblossom7120 you sound mentally ill

​@@cherryblossom7120Nah that's not true. I and a lot of people I know aren't simply out here with secret agendas

It’s like when people are trying to completely eradicate you and your identity, existing is activism.

Yeah this is so annoying, many people do this even in every day life. They start their argument by saying shit like "trans people want to make kids change gender", and after asking these people questions they end up saying "yeah few trans activists do this is what i mean, not all trans people". Like if you know it's few people who do this, why even mention this every time you talk about a minority..

@@NoName736yea like dylan mulvaney right lol

I mean, it was a trans person who shot up the school. When a white person does it, white supremacy is blamed.

literally not what he said but ok

Not oli hitting the same points as Trisha

​@@unapologeticallyb5068glad I wasn't the only one who caught this

What happened there ​@@unapologeticallyb5068

Right 👀 I’m in school to become an attorney, and I’m over here taking notes on the incredible flow of questioning. The way he knows when to drop and pivot is brilliant. I’m trying to learn at what point can I be certain that the jury knows that the witness is full of bullshit

Also, Ollie needs to learn the difference between hypothetical and theoretical

Wrong! It has rainbow in the title and that’s apart of the gay agenda /sarc

Yet they haven't read the book as well smh

Ikr 😂 I was dying laughing when Ethan kept saying “it’s the rainbow fish…”

I think this proves oli can't read lol everyone knows rainbow fish

No no he's def onto something: rainbow-flag... rainbow-fish🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨 ooooooohhhh😯😯😯😯😯

Honestly!!!!

i mean, oli is sort of a layup tho

@@rowstylesalso true.

​@@rowstylesIDK, Oli's pretty good at circling around rebuttals and gishgalloping his rhetoric, and he frankly makes an excellent alt-right mouthpiece. Combining that with leveraging his history as a mentally unstable "former one of them" is also pretty cunning, since he can serve as a living anecdote of "see?! Those people are unstable lunatics!". If who Oli was discussing trans rights with was more tactful and wasn't prepared to dismantle every ounce of BS as it came out (FOX echochamber), he could have looked very compelling to anyone with a weaker epistemology and who was unfamiliar with the issue. I don't normally watch h3h3, so idk if he's always on the ball, but Ethan was absolutely spectacular the whole way through. He hit some brutal counterarguments, showed receipts and research statistics, and overall did an incredible job showing that charismatic grifter's true colours as a complete sociopathic idiot.

Vicious goblin of truth is so perfect and I love it 😂

Well you know people like this get triggered at just the thought of a rainbow, Can't spread the gay lmao

Read multiple times when I was a kid and I’m still a cis-gender heterosexual. Must be doing something wrong, lol.

@@This_RuthIsOnFire FUCK PLAN B, WE MISSED ONE

Same when he said that about rainbow fish I was like wtf how does he not know rainbow fish lmao maybe he’s a little older than us idk

@@ts4743 I am 6 years older than Oli, don’t do calculations lol, I’m… not discussing my age here.

Don’t insult the late, great Norm MacDonald like that.

Fr it’s so nice we have allies with such big platforms standing up for us

I wouldn't go so far as calling Ethan an ally outright but this takedown was good and necessary

You mean Oli right? Anyone who pushes children to be chemically castrated is NO ally.

I dont know any trans people personally, but if we needed a march in New Zealand, I'd be there in a heartbeat. But the only terf that opened their mouth in our country, got ran out. Our country generally accepts.

@@sarahdalley2614tysm for being an ally ❤️❤️

That's not bias at all... You know about the importance of a birth rate and death rate right?

he is right tht the hormones are harmful for your body and children dont have the ability to understand those decisions yet, not the exact same but i thought i was gay as a child but when i became an adult i found im actually straight.

Are regretful young detransitioners valid to you

@@leae3750 idk why they wouldn’t be just as valid as people who feel good about their transition

That doesn't sound simple at all. It's really dark and complex if you unpack it.

​@@leae3750 Have you ever spoken to someone who has detransitioned? They are overwhelmingly supportive of trans rights.

⁠@@leae3750 where did I say anything about detransitioners in my comment? I’m talking about my experience as a trans person

I know you aren’t comparing chemically castrating/ double mastectomying kids to getting wisdom teeth pulled

​@@leae3750 Surgery is surgery.

TRUEEE

@@leae3750 one is life saving and one is about teeth

Stupid argument.

He

he's a grifter, being transphobic is profitable.

💸💰💲🤑🫰💵

@@giantturd5157 they is a gender neutral pronoun and is being implemented correctly. Cmon now we learned pronouns in primary school.

Because it’s mostly about getting attention, however they can get it. It’s why Oli can’t actually answer any questions and they just repeat the same talking points when Ethan is asking questions. Oli doesn’t really believe it but they’ve been in the public eye getting attention for so long it’s hard to let that go. And because Oli has been maintaining relevancy at times saying some pretty controversial things (like identifying as Korean) they are wiling to keep that relevancy by whatever means necessary. That is how Oli has ended up throwing their own community into, quite frankly danger spreading this easily disproved right wing qanon propaganda.

Lots of money to be made by being the anti trans influencer. The right can’t get enough.

Ethan talking about Oli’s grift for an hour really highlights Ethan’s grift

Who TF is buying an Oli London lunchbox lol? I think kids want Spiderman or Barbie on their lunchboxes, not the wackiest detransitioner.

@@bopshi what is he grifting? I don’t see Ethan selling his soul for money like Oily

By Ethan's own logic, Oli is a grifter and doing all of it for money and fame, Trisha is a grifter and doing it for money and fame. Yes Ethan, that is the problem. It's a trend and it's practical to turn your child into a goldmine or trans yourself for fame and money.

Loved Oli's blue screen when Ethan advocated for free healthcare

​@@sophiatrocentraisin Watching almost two hours of this stream of anti-trans rhetoric was all instantly made worth it when I saw that.

Yeah, like the medical industry aren't already infamously overcharging for things that *aren't* trans-related. He doesn't seem too concerned about that, though.

There are 16 year Olds who have had mastectomies. Also puberty blockers are irreversible because the effects on bones and development cannot be reversed. Once you miss your puberty window it's irreversible. It was intended for precocious puberty not to delay it

@@Jeremy-wp4yhoh great here comes the youtube comment pseudo-medical professionals 😂 “puberty blockers are irreversible” going to stop you right there because you have no idea what youre talking about.

@@bluflame4847 you don't even know what they are. They're intended for prepubescent teens. It's not indicated to delay puberty. Delaying puberty has consequences. Hence you don't know what you're saying. Get your degree in MBS first. Stop trying to act smart

Literally this was so satisfying to watch

I teared up when he got to the point where he deduced Oli endorsed child suicide, the ultimate consequence of all this. Seeing someone actually boil down his thoughts into an unobjectionable statement and throw it back into his face unfiltered was so cathartic, but also sickening when he tried to stand by his views. "If trans healthcare is made illegal, kids will off themselves. You want trans healthcare to be outlawed. Therefore, you want kids to off themselves." Oli agreed to every premise that led to that conclusion, there was nothing he could do but squirm on camera. He'll rely on his cognitive dissonance or simply not care due to secret, antisocial inner-thoughts or some shit to morally absolve himself, which is tragic. I would move to a remote forest and never show my face to another human again if I got assblasted that badly.

As much as Oli is unqualified to talk about this, from a standpoint of why should we mutilate our bodies to feel comfortable with ourselves? It’s like plastic surgery for cosmetic reasons, the more people do it the more normalised it is. And that’s not a healthy thing. Modifying our bodies has a lot of implications and I don’t think a society which normalises boys and girls ruining their reproductive capabilities because they’re following a fad is healthy. Yea there might be some who are genuinely suicidal if they don’t transition but I’ve also heard of some that were just mentally unwell and when they got better they realised they’ve ruined their bodies and detransitioned but had permanent damage. If you think the collateral damage is worth it I can’t ever get on your side about that that’s psychotic 🤷🏻‍♀️

Delusional. Thank God people are waking up

? Kids don't have the ability to be aware of themselves let alone the ability to think their own thoughts at a certain age, besides we don't allow them to drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, weed or have sex and same should go for letting parents making them take life altering permanent and irreversible change before the age of 18.

@@viktort.6415 the age of consent doesn’t prevent them from having sex before 18

@@viktort.6415 Ethan already addressed this argument in the debate...

Yeah, it reminds me of the arguments that people transition to "have it easier in life" or something like that. I don't think Oli did this in this interview, but I'm pretty sure Rowling has said this. Like, you really think trans people have it so easy, especially in this climate?

The logic is that coming out as trans is encouraged by the left in order to be your true self or wtvr but if you have doubts about it and wish to detransition its not rlly encouraged as much yano the river only flows one way

23:00 the lunchbox is literally doing an AHEGAO face which is EXPLICITLY sexu

​@@sweetfry that lunchbox looks creepy. Kpop companies know better then then to sell lunchboxes as merch.

Say that to the dead kids in the cov shooting 😒😒😒😒

@@crispypudding I'm not sure what that has to do with access to medical and mental health services, but go off I guess 🥰

We need MUCH clearer language, especially in bills about what exactly gender-affirming care is. It can be anything from dressing a different way, a name change, to tens of thousands of dollars in surgery. It’s way too vague to have a meaningful discussion.

@@VasaYaga a troon who shouldve had talk therapy shot those children and YOU people hold up seven fingers to include the shooter as a victim. if god doesnt punish you, someone like me will.

50% of Zoomers are gender confused says some Far Right Chuds

sexualities like gay or heterosexual being shown is fine, showing those to kids will not lead them to have mental health issues or mistakenly believe they could be trans, which could cause them to have serious and damaging drugs/surgery.

@Alba Newsflash: being exposed to trans people causes as much mental health issues as being exposed to gay people. That is, none.

​@@albr4 Trans person here, I've seen so many cisgender movies and films and literally nothing about trans people growing up. How exactly was I indoctrinated? That makes no sense. If children seeing heterosexual couples and cisgender people doesn’t make then cishet maybe it's not the media.

​@@albr4 bruh, you'd have been saying the exact same thing about gays 20 years ago. Just another frothing reactionary.

^ incel

It’s really sad. This debate is important to me, not just because it’s entertaining but because I don’t think Oli is incapable of change. He needs to understand why his actions are harmful and at the very very minimum, be more careful with broad generalisations in tweets.

@@Ethan-ee8rv I genuinely think he knows exactly what he is doing, he knows he is wrong he knows he is lying. He just wants the money and attention, he is literally a professional troll

You mean Ethan right? He literally doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

@@courtneyr214 please for the love of whatever you believe in, get a basic education.

​@Courtney R which of the two people in this video have several scientific articles that directly back up their claims?

Good to know their dad is okay with them sterilizing themselves

@@huntersimmons2560 this is propaganda

​@@huntersimmons2560good to know you're in favor of kids killing themselves

theres a lot of people justifying the shooting because supposedly its christians fault so i dont blame him much tbh

​@@ninidecoss2633 okay, fine. Let's take two recent shootings (since there's now hundreds to pick from). One was a white supremacist who murdered an Asian family at a mall in Texas. Another is a trans person who murdered people at a Christian school. Both are evil, there's no doubt about it. If you want to bring identity into it, then one was a hate crime influenced by extremist perspectives on the internet. The other was a result of extreme bullying, internal and external stressors (being put down and forced to confirm to Christian standards), and potential sexual predation on the shooter. I am not justifying what happened, but is it not clear how the motivation behind one is spite, hate and racism, while the other is hate towards an institution that oppressed trans identities.

​@@Brando2301 I don't like framing it that way, because it assumes that being trans is or could be relevant in any way to the shooting. If gender identity correlates with likelihood to commit violence, it actually looks a lot worse for cis people, since they commit way more acts of violence and terrorism. Of course, arguing that being cis is a predisposition for violence is absurd. Just like it is the other way around.

Fr, he clearly has been through a lot and that doesn’t excuse anything he’s doing but I really do wish this guy can eventually find some inner peace cuz he clearly fighting some inner demons 💀

@@ninidecoss2633 I’ve also seen terfs saying that it was justified bc the school was covering up SA of kids but nobody cares.

the statistics don’t lie, gender affirming care stops suicide

I'm pretty sure conversion therapy actually makes attempts more likely.

Very good point.

​@@albr4Oli couldn't follow the basic logic ethan was putting forward, guess you can't either

@@albr4 This is cope. Tell me where Ethan looked bad. Give an example.

It's great though bc every leftist accusation means Ethan can't get called alt right anymore though

oli is right

You know Oli the type of guy to think breastfeeding is sexual 🙄

Some drag Queens do very sexual acts and jokes.

Children shouldn’t be exposed to naked men pretending to be women.

@@Allypavy I have never seen a naked drag queen in my life

@@Allypavy My mannish woman in christ I thought the whole point of drag shows was men DRESSING UP as women, not DRESSING DOWN? There's no drag shows with children present where they're just allowed to be naked, public nudity is still illegal even for LGBTQ+ people ya know.

Oh he was one... for 10 seconds.😂

I was so done at that point, like wtf did he think the Bible is suppose to be for a christian/catholic lmao

To be fair, the gospel is only the four first books of the new Testament (i.e. life and death of the oily carpenter boy and his twelve bros, who ends up nailed on some carpentry, resurecting then flying to the sky 50 days later)

All he did was insult Oli.

​@@patrickdixon7202if insulting includes dismantling every weak ass argument or fallacy

@@patrickdixon7202 If you say that I feel like you didn't watch the entire video. Ethan debunked every one of Oli's "facts", and provided real fact with real sourced, that Oli then danced around as much as he could. The fact that Ethan threw so much shade at a terrible grifter, is just a bonus.

Yeah I see this too. Oli does not seem stable and has spoken a lot about his self esteem issues. To be completely honest, I view his rapid change from views as attention seeking and grifty, but unlike people like Matt Walsh it probably stems from some kind of mental health problem. While I empathise with him for this, using the recent school shooting to make a point about trans people was absolutely inexcusable. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and I hope he grows from this experience. Sometimes people need to be humbled in order to see the truth. His “support” from conservatives is literally just because he is anti trans like them. They were laughing at him the same as we all were when he was “transracial”. These people likely know he is not all there in the head but they don’t care. He validates their views, that’s all they need. I’m not saying Oli needs to change ideologies completely or anything, but I really hope he understands the repercussions of his actions and becomes a better, happier person. He definitely needs a level of therapy that would cause his therapist to need a therapist though. 😂

Kind of like another Blair White ahhh

wrong. it's Oi Bruv London

Thank god someone pointed out the horrific artwork. It looks like the worst waiting room in a dentist office. Also, hi Ethan !

It must be a hotel room.

And? Do you think that drag freaks kill people? Unless they infect someone with AIDS they don't kill people. They sexually assault kids and insult women

Not psychologically 😬

Or we can have cancer survivers, war vets, doctors, lawyers, amputees, elderly, environmentalists read to children instead.

@@cherryblossom7120 Why not all of them?

@@unknownuser_99 it should be about who can show educational value.

it’s delusional to think it’s inappropriate for kids to transition & for kids shouldn’t be witness to drag shows??? got it.

@@sayitwiryachest it's delusional to think there are thousands of kids medically transitioning and that there should be laws to ban and discriminate against them when it's low hundreds. Facts don't care about your feelings.

@@RONYN666 even if it was in the low hundreds it doesn't make it any more ok. If you think a child should have this option then you're mentally ill and messed up in the head. If anything if the numbers are so low then everyone should have no problem getting a ban for this stuff since it doesn't affect everyone so much. It's inarguably wrong to allow a child to take medication or surgery for mental health reasons or body image issues, everyone knows that you only start being actually self aware and self-concious around the late teens (even in late teens you're not thinking straight and massively regret tons of things you did at that time when you're finally an adult), if there's a young child thinking about this stuff much earlier than that then it's pretty blatently obvious that the idea has been implanted by their parents or other sources. There's a reason why there are so many things that are illegal for under 18s or 21 to do, things that are 100x less serious than surgery or taking medication.

@samuel bowens Correct. Because gender-affirming care is 99 times out of a 100 life-saving and drag is an art form.

Yeah this was bad

the ending is very satisfying trust me

Yeah I’ve had to break it up into 20 minute segments I’m 40 in and just about can’t take any more 😂😂 he’s fighting for his lifeeeee

@@blckk_croww I’m not at the ending yet but for me, a satisfying ending would be Oli admitted he was wrong and promising to be more careful with generalising the trans community.

It gives the same energy as the red pillars that want to ban p0r n because they weren’t able to control themselves. Like no, you had a problem that you couldn’t control. That doesn’t mean we need to take it away from everyone else 😅

I know, he's gonna aged horribly when he's goes 50.

By Ethan's own logic, Oli is a grifter and doing all of it for money and fame, Trisha is a grifter and doing it for money and fame. Yes Ethan, that is the problem. It's a trend and it's practical to turn your child into a goldmine or trans yourself for fame and money.

OLAY LONDOUN, GRIFT for MOUNAY and CLOUT do YAH?

rip harambe :(

Worst LGBT argument.

He's brainwashed by all of the propaganda and it shows when he's proven wrong after EVERY dumb thing he says. He sounds just like every Republican in the u.s.

Because it's a sexual preference. The difference is about who they fuk.... Kids don't need to know that nuance

All part of the grift, he knows his paying audience like to use their Christianity to cause harm.

I may have heard wrong, but I think he said something about being catholic? Either way, picking and choosing what is convenient for him is a huge BS move. Like yeah, it's an enormous book, of course there are good things. But you don't need to read the Bible to understand you should be kind to others.

@@ItsJustValHere ahh I see, if he is catholic that would make sense. I don’t mean this in a judgemental way, but catholics do have a tendency to cherry pick. And yes, he had me at first when he was talking about love, because in Christianity Love is huge, one of the things we are called to do is love our neighbor, and spread the love of Jesus, but then he lost me when he started saying that the Bible is old and some things don’t match today’s society.

@@Koko._.pebbles As someone who grew up in a catholic society and went to private catholic schools all her life, I agree with the cherry picking thing. We were encouraged to get to our own conclusions tho, which was nice. But yeah, the catholic church was almost done for (at least in my country) when they kept denying evolution and other scientific things just because the Bible said explicitly something different (it was a real phenomena that happened here at the end of the XIX and beginning of the XX century). So I personally believe that the Bible is so outdated that at least catholics feel like the only way to keep it relevant to today's world is cherry picking. I always got mad when they tried to use almost the same argument Oli said (that you can't take the whole Bible as gospel... like wtf do you think it's supposed to be?) to dismiss fucked up stuff on the Bible. Like yeah, maybe humans wrote wrong shit, but then you can question the validity of ALL the books.

There is an argument to be made that the old testament is mostly context, and the new testament is the actual important thing. More specifically, only the first four books of the new testament are litteral gospel, the rest is just stuff written by some dudes (including a few loooong letters of a very homophobic Paul to some other dudes; which is the only part of the bible which is actually and demonstrably homophobic)

It's not so much "needing" per se as it is healthy to expand a child's worldview. At their elementary and (somewhat) middle school age is when a child learns most about the world around them, and inevitably, the world has other people with other identities in it. Imo it slots directly in with learning about other religions and other lifestyles, because ultimately, drag is just the descriptor for a clothing choice for men. If women can wear men's clothing and not be called inappropriate so long as it's age appropriate, why can't it work the other way around? :) Hope this helps!