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The EU announced on Tuesday that they'd be forcing all phone manufacturers to implement USB-C ports on their devices, effectively killing Apple's lightening cables. So in this video we explain the EU's logic and why Apple might be unhappy...
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@pr0fess0rbadass
@pr0fess0rbadass 2 года назад
Nice to see nations saying "no" to these mega-corporations. I want more of it.
@isakjohansson7134
@isakjohansson7134 2 года назад
The Nations, EU and the NGOs that control them are conrolled by hundreds of large corporations
@whitezombie10
@whitezombie10 2 года назад
@Dragon200g Americans are too much brainwashed by these corporations. I say good for them, europeans have other plans
@whitezombie10
@whitezombie10 2 года назад
Yeah the EU is really starting to use its power to promote European needs and demands
@9razzler9
@9razzler9 2 года назад
eu is nothing compared to asia. so asia should do the same but unfortunately that wont happen.
@Giotsche
@Giotsche 2 года назад
@@9razzler9 I think Asia should do it too. Like an Asian union or so.
@andrewarnold9818
@andrewarnold9818 Год назад
I can absolutely see Apple just getting rid of the charging port and forcing you to buy a wireless charger, then just branding it as "revolutionary"
@juancena1117
@juancena1117 Год назад
They for sure gunna do this 😂
@avlan9074
@avlan9074 Год назад
Don't give them any ideas
@KRterrorKR123
@KRterrorKR123 Год назад
I would definitely bank on that happening
@manavgajera4985
@manavgajera4985 Год назад
Also I could totally see them charging us $100 for the wireless megsafe charger
@Vit-Pokorny
@Vit-Pokorny Год назад
"A wireless charger" - is a pad on a table - still requires your phone to be in very specific spot - phone not usable when charging - horribly inefficient sounds to me like much worse cable ngl
@logans3365
@logans3365 Год назад
The EU is making a lot of really cool moves lately against greedy corporations. I hope to see more of it.
@dontatmebro-
@dontatmebro- Год назад
Yeah. I especially hope to see them do something about the “stick Drift” situation because I recently found out from VCuda that corporations not shockingly created stick drift for there new products to place a faster planned obsolescence on their devices.
@logans3365
@logans3365 Год назад
@@dontatmebro- planned obsolescence should be illegal, It is a waste of resources.
@dontatmebro-
@dontatmebro- Год назад
EXACTLY!
@dwbworld
@dwbworld Год назад
so you think all parts som all tech should fit with its competitors
@logans3365
@logans3365 Год назад
@@dwbworld obviously there would be some exceptions, but especially in this case where the only motivation for making your product different is greed, then yes. Imagine how much faster the human race could advance if we started working with each other instead of against.
@sandshark2
@sandshark2 Год назад
I wondered why apple removed the headphone jack. Considering this forced headphones to comply with the lightning charger, it was literally a monopolization act.
@bruxi78230
@bruxi78230 Год назад
@Sandshark 2 ---- Monopoly is a legal term, and you obviously don't understand what it means. The last actual monopoly we had in tech was Microsoft in the late 1990s. They were declared a monopoly because they had over 90% of the computer market. The were declared an illegal monopoly because they attempted to put competitive companies out of business. Apple is incredibly far from being a monopoly because they have about 20% of the smartphone market. It's perfectly legal for any company to decide which components they want on their products. The EU has bigger fish to fry than worrying about such trivial matters.
@sandshark2
@sandshark2 Год назад
@@bruxi78230 good thing i didnt call Apple a monopoly. I said it was a monopolization act, aka, an act purely to increase control over a market.
@bruxi78230
@bruxi78230 Год назад
@@sandshark2 ---- It's a component, perfectly legal. Apple are the only ones that put the best processors in their devices also, the A series SoCs. Is that a "monopolization act"? Should they be forced by the EU to sell their processors to competitors? Having increased control over your market is one of the points of doing your own products. Otherwise you join a cartel of producers like the boys from Android who are too lazy assed to produce their own OS, so they share it with other OEMs getting whatever Google ships. Or you buy processors from Qualcomm that are consistently 2 years behind Apple. Hey, maybe that's why those guys hardly make any money.
@sandshark2
@sandshark2 Год назад
@@bruxi78230 and i never said it was illegal either. Of course its legal, but something being legal or not does not prevent it from being a morally bad thing that leads to a monopolization of its market - aka the destruction of competition. Creating a unique port that is the only port for charging, headphone use, and internal access is an attempt to stifle competition in the accessories market, limiting any and all manufacturers from creating products that operate with your device unless those competitors pay a fee. The iphone is itself a market to make accessories for, and apple is one of many companies that work within that space. A unique port gates companies out of that market. Its perfectly legal because it doesnt immediately create a trust, but it is an act to take control of multiple markets from which apple is involved. Standard Oil was a monopoly because it took control of every supply chain relating to oil, not just the selling of oil. And apple, here, is taking control of the supply chain and markets it creates. Explicitly anti-competition for companies that arent itself. Plus its absolutely anti-consumer. So Apple still bad
@wasspj
@wasspj Год назад
@@sandshark2 It's a waste of time arguing with Apple cultists, they are impervious to reason.
@kiwibom1
@kiwibom1 2 года назад
Its really funny that Apple says that it would freeze innovation while they haven't changed their charging/data port for the last 10 years lol. I like Apple products but having USB 2.0 speeds in a flagship phone in 2022 is just laughable.
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 2 года назад
I also really like apple stuff. But their proprietary chargers are soo damn annoying! They're soo expensive if you buy from apple, third party ones are usually crap, and if you're out somewhere and you lose your charger or it breaks hunting around for a lighting cable is a chore, while every little corner shop has micro USBs. And like you say they're not even good at what they do at the best of times!
@mra388
@mra388 2 года назад
Apple really likes to promote it’s iphones as video production devices, but slow file transfer completely kills it’s potential
@LordCoeCoe
@LordCoeCoe 2 года назад
@@mra388 Airdrop can transfer files with multiple Gigabites in mere seconds. No need for a cable. People with phones don't use cables but airdrop.
@sacredgeometry
@sacredgeometry 2 года назад
What kind of troglodyte even uses the connector on an iphone for anything other than charging (or would need usbc speeds most of the time)? You are assuming they will even update it to usb 3 in the process, usb c can support usb2 with fewer pins and the same interface. They may just do that ... however what is more likely is that they will probably just remove it all together and rely on wireless charging. So great. Now not more wired headphones, thanks guys.
@trismegistus2881
@trismegistus2881 2 года назад
They were also very late in switching to USB3 on their Mac computers in the first place. They only did it in 2012.
@EelooYT
@EelooYT 2 года назад
This is an amazing change, no more searching for the right charger and no more having to ask for chargers from people
@salemas5
@salemas5 2 года назад
Somehow i think apple will come with a solution that only apple's chargers would work. With some kind of chip in the charger or something...
@LordCoeCoe
@LordCoeCoe 2 года назад
Bruh, why don't you bring your own charger and cable? People should stop being like that.
@johnadams8371
@johnadams8371 2 года назад
no
@joopbonnet5300
@joopbonnet5300 2 года назад
They just make the accu not compatible with other adapters :(
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 2 года назад
@@salemas5 no that would be against the new regulation. I'm sure the EU will have that covered in the legislation.
@DianaWilson
@DianaWilson Год назад
I think this is a fantastic choice for accessibility reasons as well. When you are visually impaired it can be really hard to plug in your devices. The C is the easiest one to plug in and out if you can't see the cord or the port.
@HarryGuit
@HarryGuit Год назад
No, the C isn’t the easiest. Obviously you never tried the lightning. The C sucks because 50% of the times you get it wrong and have to turn it round. Or you have to investigate which is the right turn before you can plug it in. Never so with the lightning. An overall standard is a good thing, but why take the worse of the two?
@Kathys-corner
@Kathys-corner Год назад
@@HarryGuitUSB-C doesn't have sides anymore. From your false information I can gather you never touched a USB-C Cable in your live. And as someone who is severe visually impaired, I can tell you from experience USB-C is way easier to plug in than Lighting, because A. It has no right or wrong side and B. The plug itself is a bit thicker and easier to grip than a lighting plug
@velicanmaria7772
@velicanmaria7772 Год назад
@Neko Kuro I don't think I've ever had to angle my type C charger, it just... goes in
@white-bunny
@white-bunny Год назад
@@HarryGuit Sounds like you never used USB-C loool. Type-C is reversible, much faster and can carry much more power than Lightning. Which is the entire reason APPLE THEMSELVES use Type C on MacBooks and iPads. Lightning isn't gonna get adopted cuz its a proprietary standard compared to the open USB-C Spec.
@The_oli4
@The_oli4 Год назад
The fact that most devices from Apple don't use lightning anyway shows how inferior it is to usb c. they should have switched a while ago instead of keep forcing more e-waste. Also it is 100% not about the money this law is pretty old and they just updated it. Before this you needed to pay a small fee per device sold that doesn't use usb c.
@lucaal77
@lucaal77 Год назад
so well said!
@andrewkeith5
@andrewkeith5 Год назад
This exactly! It cannot be that difficult for Apple to just change iPhones to USB-C. They’ve already done 98% of the work for iPad anyway. It would probably sell more devices than any other of the other stagnant non-upgrades they’ve done recently.
@poody_Smoove994
@poody_Smoove994 Год назад
Bro what ???? They should keep lighting we and android users are not the same the charging cable is what separated the bums from the elite
@chremem357
@chremem357 Год назад
@@poody_Smoove994 No way you just said that hahahahhahahaha.
@luminousfractal420
@luminousfractal420 Год назад
What happened to the white tooth standard? That was decades ago.
@Tom_SDM
@Tom_SDM 2 года назад
It’s particularly weird how much Apple is against USB-C, considering how much of a song and dance they made about how they *developed* it, and were the first manufacturer to adopt it in their iPads and Laptops because of its superiority over lightning ports. Like you threw a bunch of money into getting it made and wanted it to become an industry standard, and now you’re getting mad that people want to make it the industry standard for mobile devices?
@kityhawk2000
@kityhawk2000 2 года назад
It's cause they can't charge you extra money to buy some specialty charger now
@a1asdairpage
@a1asdairpage 2 года назад
Well, partly because Lightning was developed specifically to replace the old 30-pin connector, it solved a number of specific problems for Apple and the iPhone at the time. It’s small, you won’t snap it off in the device easily, it can be plugged in either orientation, and it’s microprocessor controlled which prevents it from blowing up your iPhone and melting your face off. The licensing cost goes to cover that microprocessor in each cable which protects the specification for the standard and avoids said face melting (which, if you remember the horror stories, were a problem with the cheap Chinese 30-pin cables people were using on old iPhones which had no protection in them). When Apple went through that change from 30-pin to Lightning, I don’t think they were expecting to have to go through it again soon. It made millions of accessories obsolete overnight and was a huge cost and pain for customers. I think they implemented USB-C first in larger devices because it made sense. But it wasn’t necessary for the iPhone where it will be a pain again for customers. As an iPhone customer with plenty of Lightning cables, I wouldn’t want it changed for my iPhone. But bring it on to replace that shit micro-USB on everything else. That sucks ass!
@user-yi7pd6qz4q
@user-yi7pd6qz4q 2 года назад
Huge costs for customers but another massive sale of new bits for Apple...
@VolkerHett
@VolkerHett 2 года назад
I'm unsure if they really are against USB-C. The Macbook Pro I'm using at the moment has four USB-C sockets. One is connected to a charger at the moment. Lighting was better than Micro USB plugs but this has been resolved with USB-C plugs.
@ctg4818
@ctg4818 2 года назад
Apple can cry on their pile of money, fuck them
@lud3re384
@lud3re384 2 года назад
"Freeze innovation" Says the company using a dated charging system with speeds on par with USB 2.0 from a decade ago.
@moonasha
@moonasha 2 года назад
translation: we were planning to replace our trash charging port with a fancy new proprietary one we could use to sell new accessories and adaptors that cost an exorbitant amount
@the11382
@the11382 2 года назад
Apple has become a dongle company. Innovation died mostly with Steve Jobs.
@Nasrudith
@Nasrudith 2 года назад
I don't think Apple is making the argument in good faith for this context but there may. It could cause issues when things actually advance. The reverse already occurred in the past between Europe and the United States ironically. Until 1975 the United States required round headlamps. That was something that was even older in technology so 'should have been more stable'. Personally I would address it by adding some sort of 'sufficiently superior to the existing standards' or serving a purpose which could not reasonably be done via the standards. Which should cover weird niche cases. "Smart-cables for easy and safe connection between sealed power sources and sealed target electronics". There would be major devils in the detail about how you define it legally.
@khanhnguyen-tt3ff
@khanhnguyen-tt3ff 2 года назад
lol apple "innovation" just mean stuff we can control and were our user have to buy it form us with extra cost
@EvileDik
@EvileDik 2 года назад
Apple has never innovated, except in the field of outrageous marketing lies. They are not in the business of innovating, they are in the business of liberating cash from the wallets of the technically illiterate.
@plentyofpaper
@plentyofpaper Год назад
Apple: We've removed every port on our laptops except USB-C. And the audio jack. You can use the USB-C cables for charging, but you need to buy an adapter for anything else. Also Apple: We've removed the audio jack from our phones, and refuse to implement USB-C.
@jari2018
@jari2018 Год назад
they are so smart - you dont need ear's when you have eye's and apples
@HipposHateWater
@HipposHateWater Год назад
Being entirely/almost entirely usb-c is pretty common among ultrabooks nowadays, you do realize that right?
@plentyofpaper
@plentyofpaper Год назад
@@HipposHateWater Who said anything about Ultrabooks? Apple making laptops that are 100% USB-C and forcing the use of dongles for common accessories is a design flaw. The same holds true for any other manufacturer making the same decision. A few years down the line, perhaps all common accessories will be USB-C and this will be a non-issue. As of now, I still want easy access to USB-sticks, SD cards, printers, scanners, monitors, external hard drives etc. without being forced to have an adapter.
@emryspaperart
@emryspaperart Год назад
@@plentyofpaper an adapter would still be needed down the line unless you are happy to throw away otherwise perfectly usable external drives and usb sticks.
@plentyofpaper
@plentyofpaper Год назад
@@emryspaperart Sure, but that's nothing new. Old monitor with only a VGA video port? Want to watch an old DVD? Get access to a floppy disk drive? All of these are things that were standard features for computers years ago, but require non-standard hardware now. It's inevitable to happen eventually. But we're still definitely in a transition period. USB-C memory sticks, monitors, printers, scanners etc. just aren't what most people have yet.
@schrodingerscat1863
@schrodingerscat1863 Год назад
The real bonus to having charging aligned with USB-C is that an end user can use a single cable to charge and interconnect all their devices. My monitor has USB-C so I can charge my wireless keyboard and mouse from it, also my Bluetooth headphones, plug my laptop into it and not only have an external monitor but also charge the laptop too. So now I have one cable to do all these things rather than having to go rummaging around in a draw full of cables every time something needs plugging in. USB has been a real disaster of a standard until USB-C having too many different connectors but with USB-C it seems they finally got their act together.
@fb55255
@fb55255 2 года назад
7:06 I really hope the future of mobile devices is NOT wireless. Wireless power is so inefficient, less than half of the power consumed by the base actually goes into the phone. This means higher bills for individuals and on a global scale a huge waste of energy which is something we can't really afford nowadays.
@lev3k
@lev3k 2 года назад
Hear hear. I actually do use the usb-c port on my phone for data as well on occasion. You can use a hub with your phone and use a keyboard or a flash drive with ease.
@somethinglikethat2176
@somethinglikethat2176 2 года назад
Good chance it goes the way of the headphone jack.
@peterbreis5407
@peterbreis5407 2 года назад
'xactly!!!!!
@r00nst0ne6
@r00nst0ne6 2 года назад
also, the current wireless chargers, those where you put your phone ontop of them, are useless if you still want to use your phone while it's charching
@fb55255
@fb55255 2 года назад
@Vinícius Felipe Posselt sorry but your statements are mostly false. It is not about the wattage (power) but about the energy consumed. A wireless charger creates an EM field picked up by the phone secondary winding, as this "transformer" uses air as the core lots of radiation is just dispersed in the environment. Overcharging and waste of energy are not a thing, phone have a charger built in and batteries have overcharge and discharge protection. When the phone is fully charged no more current is drawn from the cable. Yes plugged in bricks du use some energy but it's in the range of mWh, wireless chargers meanwhile are also always plugged in but in addition they send frequently bursts of energy to detect if a phone is in range and this wastes much more. Just do some research on wireless chargers efficiency and you will find lots of papers or articles explaining this in more detail.
@sueyourself5413
@sueyourself5413 2 года назад
Funny how Apple loved the idea of making people pay for a phone and charger separately but hate this one. It's almost as if their only motif is profit 🤔
@nwabuezeozuzu6370
@nwabuezeozuzu6370 2 года назад
Exactly!! Got em right in the nuts!!
@Tybold63
@Tybold63 2 года назад
🤣
@michellpolicarpio
@michellpolicarpio 2 года назад
It’s a prívate company, not a non Governmental Organization ;-;
@sueyourself5413
@sueyourself5413 2 года назад
@@michellpolicarpio Thanks for stating the blatant obvious. It's a spectrum. You either care, to a degree, about all stakeholders or you don't. Apple does not.
@FranFerioli
@FranFerioli 2 года назад
Apple's two main arguments: 1) we don't like regulation imposed on us. This is bad. 2) we like to impose regulations on pple using our products (and charge them for the privilege). This is good...
@qdaniele97
@qdaniele97 Год назад
Without some breakthrough in the technology a future with wireless charging as the sole option doesn't seem very environmentally friendly: Wireless charging is awfully inefficient compared to cables, especially for small devices like phones. And it's not just bad for the environment, lower efficiency also means slower charging and/or more waste heat (potentially reducing battery lifespan).
@xaius4348
@xaius4348 Год назад
My experience with lighting connectors is that they stop staying attached to their ports after a while. There's just not enough holding them there, they have a loose connection, start charging poorly, and fall out. Usb just works better from my experience.
@remen_emperor
@remen_emperor 2 года назад
"This whole move could be a huge blow for one particular company: Apple." Oh no. Not Apple. They've shown such care and respect for their costumers that I can only imagine that they have purely selfless intentions in mind. My heart breaks for them
@whycantifindanavailablehandle
Apple has their reasons, a Lightning port is easier to clean and is more durable (The plastic bit inside the USB-C port can be bent by small keys getting inserted into the port while it’s in your pocket)
@Demopans5990
@Demopans5990 Год назад
@@whycantifindanavailablehandle While the lightning cable is prone to various forms of breakage unlike some 3rd party USB-C cables, and since it is a open standard, most repair shops know how to repair the port or have replacements on hand
@whycantifindanavailablehandle
@@Demopans5990 have you heard of cleaning the port on your cables with a toothbrush? Quality 3rd party cables are also very durable, and as long as you take card of your cables well, they will last a long time, I have been using the cable that came with my macbook for 2 years
@Demopans5990
@Demopans5990 Год назад
@@whycantifindanavailablehandle Sure it may work for you, but remember the average intelligence of Americans. Then remember that thanks to statistics, half of them are worse. Engineers don't tend to design products that only 30% of their target audience can use, as that is simply bad business sense
@whycantifindanavailablehandle
@@Demopans5990 I’m not american
@yrosan
@yrosan 2 года назад
I love how the EU is like "Fine, we'll do it ourselves" to the US when it comes to regulating American tech companies.
@BramLastname
@BramLastname Год назад
Tbf they did suggest the US, Japan and China to implement this on their own terms, Years ago when USB-C was fasing in more and more, But they didn't, so now the EU chose to force their hand.
@iloveplayingpr
@iloveplayingpr Год назад
It's because they're paying Government bodies to not fuck with their Lightning Cables.
@garrym5682
@garrym5682 Год назад
The EU is not some benevolent body. Far far from it.
@BramLastname
@BramLastname Год назад
​@@garrym5682 Depends on your definition of benevolent.
@alfredosauce3727
@alfredosauce3727 Год назад
As an American I appreciate it. Our government seems to hate doing anything that matters nowadays 😔
@TheLochs
@TheLochs Год назад
Thank you, this is getting out of hand. I grew up in the 70-80 when all was standardized.
@siggyincr7447
@siggyincr7447 Год назад
I've never been a fan of big government. But enactment and enforcement of standardization in mass produced products is one of the few areas that I think government can improve things consumers dramatically. This move to a standardized port won't limit innovation in the slightest. If a better port is developed, multi port devices are nothing new. My guess is that once a dominant non-proprietary wireless charging standard emerges that the EU will pass similar legislation to require compatibility with that too. Now if only they could require use of standardized consumables (air filters, oil filters, etc.) in vehicles.
@AnEnormousNerd
@AnEnormousNerd Год назад
Standardized chargers for electric cars, too.
@Apoc5k
@Apoc5k 2 года назад
It's funny that Apple says this conformity will curb innovation because Apple hasn't lead the innovation curve in years except when it comes to anti repairability and planned obsolescence.
@Inspadave
@Inspadave Год назад
What is this "planned obsolescence" (by Apple) you speak of?
@MultiPetercool
@MultiPetercool Год назад
Dude, have you tried a Mac with an M2 processor? You have no idea what you’re saying. If that is not innovation, I don’t know what is! Tesla is just proprietary as Apple. The sad part is people don’t understand that proprietary is not a four letter word!
@Apoc5k
@Apoc5k Год назад
@@MultiPetercool Take it easy Apple fanboy, I was leaning towards smart phones as for the rest of their line-up the last two points still stand.
@Apoc5k
@Apoc5k Год назад
@@Inspadave Updates tanking your clock speeds so you'll shell out for next product, soldiering the battery to the motherboard so you can't extend its lifespan, making each component coded so any attempt to replace broken parts gets an error, Apple store charging you for a repair just shy of what it costs to buy a new replacement not because the repair costs that much but because they want you to choose the replacement option.
@MultiPetercool
@MultiPetercool Год назад
@@Apoc5k What do you mean obsolescence? There is a vibrant market out there for old Apple equipment. I agree that the lack of serviceability and upgradeability is a pain, but I’ve never had performance problems. I don’t have a problem with any of the things that you find so objectionable. The benefits of the software outweigh any of the negatives surrounding the hardware.
@princeofchetarria5375
@princeofchetarria5375 2 года назад
Apple: we don’t support regulation to make everyone use the same port because it will discourage competition Also Apple: unless of course everyone’s forced to use our port, then it’s fine 👍
@brandonsavio6446
@brandonsavio6446 2 года назад
This! The same company claiming they dont like being FORCED to change.... is the same company who forces ALL APPS to use their payment system
@hanspogi6465
@hanspogi6465 Год назад
Rules for thee but not for me
@SunIsLost
@SunIsLost Год назад
Yea lol
@dgmojojojo
@dgmojojojo Год назад
Also Apple: “of course our port comes with a fee”. MFi (made for iPhone) certification is not free and charge hefty amount per design, and a small cent per piece.
@alphagt62
@alphagt62 Год назад
If they are so concerned, put both connectors on it. After all, the Apple costs over a grand! I’m sure a second port wouldn’t add too much to the bottom line?
@GrouchyBear411
@GrouchyBear411 Год назад
In a similar move nearly 20 years ago, the EU forced Cellphone Manufacturers to make USB chargers standard. Before that, you basically had a unique charger for every Cellphone, and the charger became useless once you got a new phone.
@Andrew110
@Andrew110 Год назад
Around 3:20 I got an actual ad about nebula and it's from the same channel as I'm watching this video. When it happened I didn't notice until seeing the ad icon in the corner lol
@Crytica.
@Crytica. 2 года назад
First the EU showed Facebook their place and now they are showing Apple their place. In all seriousness tho, it's a good and natural step to aim for 1 port or wireless for everything.
@thespanishinquisition4078
@thespanishinquisition4078 2 года назад
EU first and foremost started as a trade block, the ONE thing above all else they care about is ensuring Europe's medium-business-based model of economics isn't bullied by the multinationals. They may get many things wrong, but one thing you can 100% count on them for is making sure trade regulations are fair, effective and most of all, protect european interests.
@whitezombie10
@whitezombie10 2 года назад
@@nickelchlorine2753 no one expects the Spanish inquisition
@_____alyptic
@_____alyptic 2 года назад
I really hope phones don't go full wireless and have atleast one standard port :/
@_____alyptic
@_____alyptic 2 года назад
@@thespanishinquisition4078 Shame they didn't show Intel their place, but still Globalisation that's done in a better way, monopolies shouldn't even be a thing on a national scale... Let alone international 😬
@frieza1016
@frieza1016 2 года назад
No one expects​ @@thespanishinquisition4078
@PsychoSavager289
@PsychoSavager289 2 года назад
Can you imagine Apple removing all ports on their devices just to ensure people are forced to use their proprietary products? Airpods? Oh yeah.....
@UltraCasualPenguin
@UltraCasualPenguin 2 года назад
Not really. - wireless charging is very inefficient... - ... and therefore bad for environment if enough people do it - it's also bad for battery - you can't move files from your GoPro to phone/tablet wirelessly (at least with USB-C port you can plug in SD card reader or USB stick)
@suicidalbanananana
@suicidalbanananana 2 года назад
​@@UltraCasualPenguin I feel like you've not been an Apple consumer for long enough yet. - Apple doesn't care about efficiency, they care about 'cool factor' - This very thing shows how Apple does not care for the environment (this law is just the latest version of a law that's 10+ years old and Apple has been paying fines for not following this law for years already) - Bad battery is good for Apple's wallet, if you think the battery is bad you hopefully buy a new device since you cant replace the battery. Do you remember/know that they were CAUGHT faking battery degradation with iOS software updates just a few years ago? you'd update your iPhone and lose part of battery, they did that on purpose to sell new iPhones/make people believe new iOS was "too demanding for my current iPhone", Apple are utter scum who dont give a sh*t about their consumers - So they would just sell you an Apple exclusive GoPro version, easy money for both parties ;) Dont get me wrong btw, i used to look up to Apple & their products, things have changed though, they went from 'exclusive' & 'quality that you pay for' to 'anti-consumer' & 'paying a premium for outdated hardware' in only a few years.
@UltraCasualPenguin
@UltraCasualPenguin 2 года назад
@@suicidalbanananana Well, that's the thing: I have never been. Ok, I owned 2nd gen Ipod Touch and spent way too much money in Itunes Store. When it comes to phones: I went from Motorola to Nokia for several years until I switched to Android in form of HTC Desire HD. I kept that maybe a bit too long until I switched to Galaxy S8+ followed by Note 10+ and S22 Ultra.
@crateer
@crateer Год назад
@@suicidalbanananana i agree but you can certainly change the battery, it just won't change much with software telling you the Phone is still bad lol
@TheAngelOfDeath01
@TheAngelOfDeath01 Год назад
Yep! They are gonna do that, because the consumer's rights doesn't matter to Apple. And why I never buy their products. This whole debacle and the Right to Self Repair shows that these big tech companies has gotten WAY too big.
@FMHikari
@FMHikari Год назад
"This might hurt Apple" Good.
@svr5423
@svr5423 Год назад
USB changes their plugs very, very often. They also struggle with compatibility. For example, my Nintendo Switch (USB C) could not charge my BlackBerry Android phone. It disconnects after a second. Fast charging also often doesn't work, depending on cabling, adapters used, charger / battery pack used and phone used. Sometimes it's random, so plugin/unplugging helps. I'm not a fan of proprietary technology, but apple plugs historically worked quite well. From my ipod classic over the magsafe of previous MacBooks to the lightning connector.
@dgsprysoup
@dgsprysoup Год назад
EU has mandated the USB Power Delivery specification for all chargers, so they should be competely cross compatible now i guess
@quadeong7453
@quadeong7453 2 года назад
So basically Apple is upset that they're not the ones in control. they're fine with a universal charger as long as they control it.
@peto1986
@peto1986 Год назад
And that's what they gonna say at the end. That it was their idea to do it for better consumer experience, watch it 😃
@springycz837
@springycz837 Год назад
​@@peto1986 i wouldn't be surprised if they'll do that
@catboynestormakhno2694
@catboynestormakhno2694 Год назад
As if the designers who made a mouse that charges by being upside down, would ever focus their design on best consumer experience fucking comical
@gmeister03
@gmeister03 Год назад
No. Government overreach is trying to force a private business to conform. Why own a business if you can’t be in control of your business?
@ursadon1341
@ursadon1341 Год назад
@@gmeister03 And without gov regulation, companies would go nuts and have their own standards, making consumers spend even more trying to find what's right for them. Without it, even the simplist bolts and nuts would have different sizes per products. Regulations are not welcomed by businesses, but the regulation on basic and/or common level is very much needed.
@midnightflare9879
@midnightflare9879 2 года назад
And I say good for the EU! It's about time to end this childish, anti-consumer competition about charging ports.
@whitezombie10
@whitezombie10 2 года назад
nothing stands against the EU
@Giotsche
@Giotsche 2 года назад
@@whitezombie10 what
@yolo_burrito
@yolo_burrito 2 года назад
Yeah, they should standardize the other end too. One outlet in the EU.
@neeneko
@neeneko 2 года назад
anti-consumer? multiple companies trying to out do each other by attempting to make something better than the other offers is anti-consumer?
@Giotsche
@Giotsche 2 года назад
@@neeneko yes and at the same time making it too hard for consumers to get something so they need to pay more. Be more pro consumer but in the rest anti consumer to get more money.
@th3thrilld3m0n
@th3thrilld3m0n Год назад
It seems like one key thing was missed here: wired connection. Apple unveiled MagSafe a few years ago and rumors have been pointing towards them working to a completely wireless phone. Based on the way you explained it, this would exempt them from requiring USB-C and, thus, still have a proprietary MagSafe connection, though I'm guessing at that point more people would just buy regular Qi chargers.
@risannd
@risannd Год назад
The EU law requires that any device, except if it's too small, mandated USB-C.
@varixalint
@varixalint Год назад
2:51 that explains a lot. I had just recently switched to android from apple, and was confused why I didn't get a cable with the phone
@MoraFermi
@MoraFermi 2 года назад
Probably the most important thing missed in the video: This directive does not prevent anybody from including more than one charging connector on their device. Apple's own new laptops are perfect example: able to charge over USB-C *and* MagSafe.
@yuvalne
@yuvalne 2 года назад
and as someone who has a MacBook for work, that is the way to go in my opinion. The MagSafe is stronger than a USB-c, but if I lose it or leave it at home, I am not limited.
@stephenbaxter3369
@stephenbaxter3369 2 года назад
Laptops are not covered by this Directive in the near term and we will need to wait and see what happens with MagSafe. For me it was a great innovation back in the day but having USB C on MacBooks for the last 5 plus years I'm not convinced that MagSafe has tremendous value these days.
@20quid
@20quid 2 года назад
@@yuvalne Choices are always good if you are a consumer. Unfortunatley, the trend with smartphone seems to be to give people less choice. They've already removed the headphone jack and I fear companies might take this is a cue to switch to entirely wireless designs.
@bruxi78230
@bruxi78230 2 года назад
@@20quid ------ Going to wireless audio has proven to be massively popular with consumers. Did you not notice that? Who wants a fricken headphone jack which is old tech from mid 20th century? By the way, these phones are essentially wireless products, did you want to plug it in to the wall to make a telephone call?
@HappyGick
@HappyGick 2 года назад
@@bruxi78230 I prefer the headphone jack. Wireless shit needs to be charged, and is quite uncomfortable to use imo. I don't like wireless headphones. I prefer my headphone jack.
@ragerancher
@ragerancher 2 года назад
In all the time I've been using USB cables, I have never had a single one break. My friends who use Apple seem to burn through cables constantly breaking and then pay more for the replacements than I do for USB cables. As well as a royalties, Apple just want to monopolise the market and charge extortionate prices for their equipment that appears to be designed to break.
@svr5423
@svr5423 Год назад
I had plenty of USB cables and chargers break / burn out. Biggest issue is when the USB sockets break. Sometimes you could fix it with a screwdriver, sometimes you'd have to send the phone in. Never had that issue with apple mobile devices (ipad 2, various ipods, now iphone).
@hittingyouoverthehead
@hittingyouoverthehead Год назад
I know this is not the point but that's the first time I have seen the adjective form of the word 'extortion'. Its quite a useful word which I would probably use a lot in the future so thank you.
@purplemav
@purplemav Год назад
I’ve had my original cable to my iPhone for 5 or 6 years now and it still works fine.
@MsDemzon
@MsDemzon Год назад
I run a repair shop. the most common charge port issue I see with iPhone is that the end of the lightning cable broke off in the port. so I end up fishing out what looks like a fat staple. everytime I see it happen, the customer says it was the cable that came with the iPhone that broke off. lightning always has been a wear design that leads to failures.
@razi_man
@razi_man Год назад
It is not just lightning though, Apple's USB-C to USB-C cable also has that same problem.
@MsDemzon
@MsDemzon Год назад
@@razi_man really... so it's just that Apple is crap. Knew that already
@gatblau1
@gatblau1 Год назад
Awesome news! Hopefully that will trickle down to the iPhones sold in the U.S. market. I’ve always had problems with Apple’s proprietary charger connections starting to fail after a while.
@Ch17638
@Ch17638 2 года назад
Apple will try to sell you the proprietary wall socket , house cabling and breaker switch if they could, of course only to be serviced and repaired by a Apple approved technician. With built in obsolescence because you know safety, user experience, water damage or something along those lines.
@blakksheep736
@blakksheep736 Год назад
Also they're all serial locked so you can't even do your own repairs with Apple parts; your bulbs won't turn on until someone from Apple comes and syncs everything, a service that will cost almost as much as the initial purchase.
@Michael-mh2tw
@Michael-mh2tw Год назад
Then don't buy them. Don't get the state to restrict other peoples' options just because you personally don't want to use those options.
@adrienrenaux6211
@adrienrenaux6211 2 года назад
Honestly the EU is probably the best political entity to deal with these sorts of things. In my opinion, they should also start regulation against planned obsolescence in tech. I'd love to see regulation forcing that for a period of at least 5 years, there should be software updates, batteries replaceable by the consumer, and maybe give tax advantages to more repairable devices. The innovation tech needs these days is making devices last longer, not marginal gains on speeds, image qualities, etc.
@userlog2474
@userlog2474 2 года назад
Based.
@camillo9213
@camillo9213 2 года назад
Well they already have. There is minimum two year guarantee on all tech devices.
@draum8103
@draum8103 2 года назад
Speaking of that, someone needs to SUE APPLE for making charging cords that disintegrate after about 3 months. It's like they are designed to break so you have to buy a new one at least once per year.
@jonathanodude6660
@jonathanodude6660 2 года назад
@@draum8103 take care of your stuff better. everyone knows apple junk is fragile. if you want it to last, dont beat it up.
@jonathanodude6660
@jonathanodude6660 2 года назад
@@camillo9213 in aus, there isnt even a minimum time. devices are supposed to last as long as theyre "reasonably expected" to last. if you buy a TV for example and it fails after 3 years, you can take the company to court if you can argue that you expected the tv to last for 5 years, and youll probably win. both nintendo and valve had to start offering refunds on their online stores because someone complained to the ACCC, and right now, the ACCC is in the process of suing AirBnB because they listed prices in USD for australian users, resulting in much higher prices than expected as well as currency conversion fees. we actually care about consumers here. (they drive the economy.)
@ZaHandle
@ZaHandle Год назад
I would like to imagine a day where I can share cables with my friends
@riccccccardo
@riccccccardo Год назад
It’s true I have majority lightning cables and had to buy one separate cable for a usb c for a beats headphones which was annoying.
@meesterbundy
@meesterbundy 2 года назад
As an Apple user in North America, I want to extend a massive ‘Thank You!’ to the EU!
@Einfach_Ghetto_TV
@Einfach_Ghetto_TV Год назад
Shame on u. You buy this overpriced garbage
@kale_chippy
@kale_chippy Год назад
@@Einfach_Ghetto_TV shame on YOU for not doing your research. Apple holds about 40% of the market share in the US, as opposed to 12.4% in the rest of the world. For a lot of Americans, it is the most viable option.
@DBLEB
@DBLEB Год назад
@@kale_chippy One could argue that if people would stop buying them, they wouldn't be the ''most viable'' for long :P Plus they have never been the cheapest option, no matter the deals service providers try to peddle you.
@AWOL_ODST
@AWOL_ODST Год назад
Agreed 👏🏻
@MattHurst100
@MattHurst100 Год назад
@@Einfach_Ghetto_TV privacy cost a bit more, you can sell your data to google Facebook and the internet
@feldegast
@feldegast 2 года назад
"waterproofing devices" is just code for "make devices die reliably, shortly after the warranty expires" by making batteries only last so long before they need replacing, this is why I HATE waterproofing of phones, I WANT to be able to easily replace my battery!
@UltraCasualPenguin
@UltraCasualPenguin 2 года назад
You should start taking care of battery instead by never allowing charge to drop below 30% and only charge up to 85% (activate "protect battery" feature).
@feldegast
@feldegast 2 года назад
@@UltraCasualPenguin if that's the case then why is the 0% and 100% indicators on batteries, stop charging and turn off at those points? it sounds like manufacturers WANT batteries to fail faster
@UltraCasualPenguin
@UltraCasualPenguin 2 года назад
@@feldegast You can stop charging at 85%. Enable "protect battery" option in settings. If you have Android: Settings -> Device maintenance -> Battery -> go to bottom, there should be something like additional options -> Protect battery at bottom, enable it. You can also start charging around 30%. Why never charge to 100%? Because closer to full it gets more difficult it gets to get last bits of energy into battery. This is done by increasing amount of energy which is then forced to battery which, you guessed it, isn't good for battery.
@feldegast
@feldegast 2 года назад
@@UltraCasualPenguin never seen that option before,... had Android phones for over 14 years...I'll have a look but it is still dishonest of manufacturers
@bryanjk
@bryanjk 2 года назад
@@UltraCasualPenguin that feature is not on all androids, Samsung built that into their custom android rim essentially
@84bmw325e
@84bmw325e Год назад
I think around 2009 standardized the micro-usb standard for phone chargers. Before that every time I got a new phone it needed a different charger.
@kalleklp7291
@kalleklp7291 Год назад
Back in the day, almost every manufacturer had its own system. It was a PITA to be low on battery when not at home due to everyone having different ports on their phone. Some Chinese companies threw out so-called adaptors which addressed this very problem. All of a sudden the different companies agreed to standardize it BUT NOT (Cr) Apple.
@uncinarynin
@uncinarynin 2 года назад
So my toothbrush, shaver, camera etc. will all have USB-C charging ports? That's fantastic. I hope by the way that the build quality of charging cables will also become more durable. USB-C is already mechanically superior, holding better in the plug than micro-USB, and also allowing twice the amperage, hence faster charging. Technology marches on so this decision will inevitably be revisited in a few years.
@Vengir
@Vengir 2 года назад
Not toothbrushes or shavers. At least not at the moment.
@PadHicks
@PadHicks 2 года назад
If USB-C is a regulatory enforced standard, why would any company bother researching or developing a new port?
@uncinarynin
@uncinarynin 2 года назад
@@PadHicks Higher data rate, amperage etc. No standard is forever (though our wall plugs are examples of very durable standards).
@PadHicks
@PadHicks 2 года назад
@@uncinarynin great, so when the lobbyists and lawyers sign off on it, we can get the next upgrade. Not organically as adoption becomes mandatory to keep up with competition.
@aliasgharkhoyee9501
@aliasgharkhoyee9501 2 года назад
@@PadHicks Because USB-C doesn't need to be the company's only port. For example, new Macbooks that have both USB-C and MagSafe ports.
@Maldanil
@Maldanil 2 года назад
I think it's a step in the right direction of finally regulating unsavory practices of tech giants and opens the door for even more substantial reforms in the future. Really happy that the EU has done this.
@chefjamesmacinnis
@chefjamesmacinnis Год назад
In Canada my S21 came with a cable but no brick
@markusgorelli5278
@markusgorelli5278 Год назад
I actually would not mind if laptops and higher powered devices had a different cord (maybe necessary for technical reason) but it should also be standard across all of that class of device.
@Mickelraven
@Mickelraven 2 года назад
I feel proud to be European now! This is an absolute W, no more "finding the right charger". Go EU!
@draum8103
@draum8103 2 года назад
Oh, what's that, at a friend's house and you desperately need to charge something? Of course they don't have the same charger. That would make too much sense.
@sfp2290
@sfp2290 2 года назад
I am usually very critical of the EU. But even I will have to admit, that the EU has done great in this case!
@toddkes5890
@toddkes5890 2 года назад
I'd like to extend the USB-C charging capability to other wireless items. Pretty much anything that is wireless and can be charged at USB-C rates, make them integrate the USB-C charging capability
@stephenbaxter3369
@stephenbaxter3369 2 года назад
These types of Directives were one of the major reasons I believed the UK should have remained part of the EU. Now the UK needs to independently decide on these things and hence employ people to perform the necessary evaluations. I'm just waiting for us to increase our mains voltage back up to 240V and no longer follow the European norm!
@ruhri0411
@ruhri0411 2 года назад
@@stephenbaxter3369 Currently there is news that UK does not want to follow this regulation from Brussels, each manufacturer may do what they want. LOL, I think the British government overestimates its influence tremendously. Of course, no manufacturer will abandon USB C especially for the British market. It seems to be manic in Westminster by now to condemn everything that comes from Brussels! The EU is a real peace project for the understanding of the European peoples, it has brought us so many freedoms, you can use your cell phone in other EU countries as you would at home, freedom to travel, common currency, to name but a few things. It is a great pity that the UK is no longer part of this project, but unfortunately too many people in your country fell for the lies of Johnson, Farage and their cronies.
@tonjoubasara5259
@tonjoubasara5259 2 года назад
I am sorry, but I don't think that the company that tried to sell a monitor stand for the price of 999$ is actually doing this for the sake of the consumer. In my opinion the part where they were resisting this change out of pure greed and self-interest is solid enough reason to justify their actions, no matter how little the actual revenue stream would be compared to the rest of the things they do.
@Simqer
@Simqer 2 года назад
The "little" revenue stream was more than enough to fund the bonuses of the fat cats in charge.
@calvinhumphries9595
@calvinhumphries9595 Год назад
I wish it was, but both my Nokia phone and Lenovo Tab 3 tablet are Micro-USB ... Where my Samsung phone was USB-C, as was my previous Lenovo Tab 3 tablet!
@zacmorri
@zacmorri Год назад
This guys voice sounds like the guy from the "you're a wizard harry"
@TheArctofireHD
@TheArctofireHD 2 года назад
I’m absolutely thrilled. Apple has been criminal with its separate connectors and I’m glad to see the EU standing up to them.
@TheArctofireHD
@TheArctofireHD 2 года назад
@@user-otzlixr Apple has a huge advantage in the market. By trying to lock people into their hardware eco-system, it is destroying competition and is raising prices for everyone, as they have to buy Apple exclusive headphones/chargers/connectors, etcetera.
@TheArctofireHD
@TheArctofireHD 2 года назад
@@user-otzlixr A new connector needs to be compatible with all devices. One company should not get to monopolize the market like that. It's about preserving a free market, competition, and innovation.
@TheArctofireHD
@TheArctofireHD 2 года назад
@@user-otzlixr Apple getting rid of compatibility with non-Apple products means you have to replace them with Apple products, which almost always cost more.
@honzasrnka4796
@honzasrnka4796 2 года назад
@@TheArctofireHD "I'm too lazy to switch phones so I'd rather potentially fuck over the innovation for everyone else."
@TheArctofireHD
@TheArctofireHD 2 года назад
@@honzasrnka4796 'Innovation' lol. you've sucked up their bullshit propaganda. It isn't in the slightest about innovation, it's about them trying to rip consumers off.
@ArchieKeen1
@ArchieKeen1 2 года назад
I could definitely see apple “sticking” it to everyone and making a new wireless charger that’s “superior” to a lot of of chargers, but is completely proprietary to apple only….
@novelnouvel
@novelnouvel Год назад
they can make proprietary power delivery protocol. simply said that other adapter will not accepted by iphone.
@therealdutchidiot
@therealdutchidiot Год назад
@@novelnouvel But that's already disallowed by EU rules.
@luminousfractal420
@luminousfractal420 Год назад
You think too much of apple. They innovate very little. Just like Elon musk. Many ideas, some good most terrible, backed by cash and corruption. (Apple wouldn't be anywhere if they had the ability to disable the microphones and cameras (able to record and transmit while powered off since about iPhone4), non removable batteries and an alternative to microphones in lamposts (Gordon brown, UK MP circa y2k). Also the year Google stopped pretending to be a privacy giant and admitted being an advertising monopoly.
@QazCetelic
@QazCetelic Год назад
I think you might be missing something, wireless charging also has to be standardized afaik.
@ItsRequeVII
@ItsRequeVII Год назад
It’s 2022 and I only got my first USB-C device this month. First time I saw a USB-C was last year, it was for a expensive camera.
@vervetech9395
@vervetech9395 2 года назад
I never expected Tech Alter to give that excuse. * The number one reason is money and control Apple has always had on their consumers and what they're allowed to get or do with their device. It's just like how Apple is refusing to replace the old SMS standard with the new secure and better RCS standard. Cos they hate the fact that if they do teens will no longer bully their friends for not having an iPhone to join group chats in the US.
@bazzfromthebackground3696
@bazzfromthebackground3696 2 года назад
Yeah once this goes through, they're going to double down in the US. They have much more control over the market (politics).
@vervetech9395
@vervetech9395 2 года назад
@Steven Strain RCS is not a Google thing but a GSMA standard like SMS. Educate yourself before you reply. Also what's the point in telling people they're "Android fans"? I use both mobile operating systems daily and i would love it if my iPhone used the secure RCS standard instead of SMS which can be easily exploited.
@vervetech9395
@vervetech9395 2 года назад
@Steven Strain And yes, many researches on Green bubbles vs Blue bubbles have revealed that Apple is deliberately using iMessage in the US to make teens discriminate against their friends in school group chats especially just to force them to get an iPhone in order to join group chats. GSMA solved that by making RCS protocol have every major benefit of iMessage making people join group chats, share large files, react, get typing notifiers and more importantly, End-to-End encryption. So Apple is reluctant to replace SMS with RCS because they know there'd be less people in the US bullying others to get an iPhone because of messaging if they do.
@juhotuho10
@juhotuho10 2 года назад
The USB-C is OBJECTIVELY better than lightning cable, higher power carrying ability and higher data transfer speed (10Gbps vs 0.48Gbps, yes it's over 20x higher) Apple only stays with it because of $$$, they can honestly suck it and wipe their tears with all the money they have already got
@bruceh9780
@bruceh9780 2 года назад
The greatest strength Apple has is it's ability to screw their consumers at every point, have them pay for it and then thank apple of the privilage.
@kfhroe8262
@kfhroe8262 2 года назад
Also TechAltar response make no sense: 1. "They cannot control what device gives power to their phone". Apple cannot it even now. There are countries with 110V and other with 220V, 50 Hz or 60 Hz, reliable supply or waning providers. If the charger, by law, have to follow a certain standard, as the Eu wants, there will be less problems for device manufacturer, not more. 2. "They cannot control what accessories are made for iPhone". The laws only requires USB3 for charging. All other accessories could be selected by the producer and it can refuse to enable them. They can even add a second port with any new protocol they like.
@bobs_toys
@bobs_toys 2 года назад
@@kfhroe8262 iirc they charge for every bit of equipment that uses the proprietary lightning connector
@KonradTamas
@KonradTamas 2 года назад
I totally agree. Using different cable just to be SPECIAL and make additional Money is not good for the environment. FK apple.
@AndreSomers
@AndreSomers 2 года назад
Usb-C is a whole bunch of confusing standards. You never know what each device will actually support from those great theoretical specs. The main issue I have with usb C is the fragile design of the port. The fragility is on de device side, which runs the risk of breaking the device because of a damaged port. How’s that for e-waste? The Lightning connector is way more robust, even though the actual cables seem to break at one point. But I rather replace a few € cable than a 1k€ device…
@dgurevich1
@dgurevich1 8 месяцев назад
And today we confirmed apple could do absolutely nothing about it. Next they will be forced to make an iPhone with removable battery
@markmartin5817
@markmartin5817 Год назад
I think it’s a great idea as long as it has an ability to have revision like every 10 years if there is better more efficient charger in the future. It would be like saying vhs is the eu standard. And completely missing out on Blu-ray or even now days streaming as alternatives if it’s available.
@lampionmancz
@lampionmancz 2 года назад
This is really good as people will finally be able to get a normal charger and they won't have to get charged for hundreds by Apple.
@zxzxzzxx7396
@zxzxzzxx7396 2 года назад
Good one
@Jay_Johnson
@Jay_Johnson 2 года назад
nah they'll just stick another 100 on the Iphone sticker price.
@lampionmancz
@lampionmancz 2 года назад
Thinking about this an hour later it would seem too naive.
@TinyBearTim
@TinyBearTim 2 года назад
Nobody is forcing u to have a official  one
@lampionmancz
@lampionmancz 2 года назад
@@TinyBearTim I don't have anything from Apple but I'd say that a lot of people are probably scared to buy something unofficial
@krunschnew
@krunschnew 2 года назад
I also still use Devices with Micro USB as charging port And if Apple is unhappy with that. They Signet a contract for standartisation the ports over a decade ago amd is the only Player from that contract who conplitly ignored it an developed their one thing that is incompatible with everything else
@miridium121
@miridium121 Год назад
"it's probably not just about money". Literally gives information that further solidifies that it is, in fact, only about money.
@crazyt1483
@crazyt1483 Год назад
My question would be is if manufacturers made a multi functional port that used for example working 6 pins. And these pins where in use for some accessories but a charging cable with say pins 1 and 6 not in use was developed how would that work?
@OVER-bENGINEERED
@OVER-bENGINEERED 2 года назад
Wireless charging requires about 50% more energy per device. We are literally going to need a few more power plants to cope with that.
@definitelynotcole
@definitelynotcole Год назад
Actually it is very negligible
@TysonJensen
@TysonJensen Год назад
Almost half a bitcoin worth!
@Hohor6153
@Hohor6153 Год назад
And who wanna carry that thing in the pocket
@jaekyungseo5720
@jaekyungseo5720 2 года назад
Finally a law that forbids apple's bulls*t
@whisperinghaircutsasmr
@whisperinghaircutsasmr Год назад
I think its great, the fact that if you ever want to connect a non apple device to the laptop, you have to use an extra adapter and you have a mass of cables dangling from it is not very convenient, I am all for this!
@adamjutras7024
@adamjutras7024 Год назад
Excellent news! We need more policymakers fighting big corporations and thinking about the majority of their constituents instead of just the biggest economic contributors. Apple's argument is completely baseless and selfish.
@Whipko
@Whipko 2 года назад
Lightning cables are by far the most fragile cables out there, usually they last one year - that's if you're lucky.
@InvictusMartin
@InvictusMartin 2 года назад
Actually not true, many tests find lighting cables to last longer. Usb C has pins in the centre which can be damaged and its a lot harder to clean.
@Whipko
@Whipko 2 года назад
@@InvictusMartin Oh man, I wish knew that, if I did I would just kept using the one lightning cable that no longer charged anything and wouldn't have to buy three more in a span of three years because apparently my real experience using them is irrelevant to whatever prefabricated tests are saying.
@DropTableIfExists
@DropTableIfExists 2 года назад
@@InvictusMartin not cables, connectors. Apple and MFi cables won’t usually last longer than a year.
@jc3drums916
@jc3drums916 2 года назад
@@Whipko So basically you're saying your sample size of 3 or 4 cables is enough to make a blanket statement that applies to hundreds of millions of cables. I've never had an Apple-branded cable fail. I have an 8-year-old Lightning cable that I sometimes still use to connect my iPhone to a power strip with USB-A. The only time my iPhone failed to charge, I quickly discovered it was due to lint in the Lightning port. However, I'm probably more careful than most about avoiding strain, kinks, etc.
@Whipko
@Whipko 2 года назад
@@jc3drums916 So you question my personal experience not being representative of a whole picture and then follow up wtih your own :) ok bro.
@Alfonso88279
@Alfonso88279 2 года назад
About time someone stops Apple in its feet.
@RandomPerson-tz7wk
@RandomPerson-tz7wk 2 года назад
More like force apple to keep up with everyone else. Their port transfer speed is slow for a flagship
@Alfonso88279
@Alfonso88279 2 года назад
@@RandomPerson-tz7wk So everybody wins. Even better. You just need to convince the suits from Apple.
@RandomPerson-tz7wk
@RandomPerson-tz7wk 2 года назад
@@Alfonso88279 No need to convince them. Eu made it LAW. It would hurt apple reputation to have the slowest USB C flagship on the market. So they better step up or move to portless
@wturner777
@wturner777 Год назад
@@RandomPerson-tz7wk Most likely Apple is going to go portless and make future iPhones thinner and wireless charging standard.
@merefinl6914
@merefinl6914 Год назад
Been using Apple projects my whole life and it's been such a pain to deal with their 'innovative' approach to their chargers and cables. My new desktop is completely incompatible with so many tech accessories I own, and their own website struggles to provide recommendations for adapters. Most people can't identify the different cables, leading to even more waste when they buy the wrong ones.
@Newishrevolution1
@Newishrevolution1 Год назад
I bought some adapters because I was tired of having multiple cords. Now I have a couple usb c and a usb mini, micro, lightning adapters.
@OtherWorldExplorers
@OtherWorldExplorers 2 года назад
I LOVE that the EU is doing this !
@photelegy
@photelegy 2 года назад
I'm especially happy for laptops to have USB-C to charge. I always forget my cable and it's so individual.
@125pheonix
@125pheonix Год назад
yea wait till you plug the charging USB-C into the standard interface ports......
@julianrobin9390
@julianrobin9390 Год назад
@@125pheonix With laptops that already charge via USB C, all ports generally support power delivery. If they dont, USB PD is not a dumb protocol, it doesnt just drop 50W into your USB port without communicating first.
@125pheonix
@125pheonix Год назад
@@julianrobin9390 you run with that, USB-C is not a fixed standard yet, but you go with trusting manufacturers to child proof your tech. USB-C is not a good PD system for anything over 2.0A at 5v. Preference to not chance a hiccup
@julianrobin9390
@julianrobin9390 Год назад
@@125pheonix USB C and USB PD actually are standardized, though. IEC 62680
@7ombische
@7ombische Год назад
The Lightning C48 connecter royalty was about US $2.80 in 2015/16. I don’t know what it is now.
@iwantcheese-2221
@iwantcheese-2221 Год назад
i like the changes but why headphones its not that optional for certain things like it wont fit console and my phone so can the headphone plug stay or does that also need changes
@phoenixyo9987
@phoenixyo9987 2 года назад
I like having a ability to charge via wire. I feel like wireless only devices for charging is going to be a bad idea, since if your phone's wireless charging breaks. Your phone is done for (and for someone like apple who charges a arm and a leg for their products, this would be insane repair cost).
@jameshiroshi5226
@jameshiroshi5226 2 года назад
this a big win for flexibility and especially for the environment, i hope other countries especially usa and others in asia implement this kind of legislation soon
@johnadams8371
@johnadams8371 2 года назад
no
@zachj7953
@zachj7953 2 года назад
Don't hold your breath, US will a 100% buy into apples bs "regulation kills innovation" line
@tf8327
@tf8327 2 года назад
Well, other countries don't have to implement this legislation. Since Apple wants to sell the products to EU consumers, they either have to adapt UBS-C or go Wireless. However, it makes no financiel sense to have two production lines (one for the EU and one for the rest of the world), so Apple will change to USB-C or Wireless globally. That means the EU legislation will become world wide standard. This is the so called brussels effect.
@Jay_Johnson
@Jay_Johnson 2 года назад
I agree in the long term but when micro-USBs and Lightning cables stop being manufactured will there not be a huge amount of electronic waste as people are forced to throw away their old devices in favour of new USB-C ones. I don't want to have to throw away a device that is working perfectly well just because I cannot charge it.
@coasterblocks3420
@coasterblocks3420 2 года назад
@@Jay_Johnson the various cables will continue to be made for a very long time. You can still buy mini-USB cables at a $2 shop or the supermarket and how long has it been since you’ve seen a device sold with that plug?
@poorfesor
@poorfesor Год назад
How about addressing battery power hand tools, every manufacturer has their own incompatible battery source. Often no matter what company you select as your standard there will be a special tool that only is made by another company so you have to have a separate battery standard. Cars managed to use pretty much a standard shape of 12 volt battery although the have managed to make it difficult to use by placing posts in odd positions, sometimes requiring battery cable adjustment that make it easier to just buy the one specific to your model. I have 4 or 5 different battery configurations to power my various hand tools. After all AC wall plugs pretty much work anywhere at least in the USA. Europe has their own standard but there are adapters to overcome most of the problems. The problem with USBC is not the standard it is the computer chips that are required to make the cables work, they can be coded to be a virus and then you are no longer secure but maybe that is the plan.
@oliverlane9716
@oliverlane9716 Год назад
What if someone develops a better design of connector? Tough, there’s been a monopoly handed out and no choices given to consumers and no ability for designs to progress. What a terrible idea.
@menymillz
@menymillz Год назад
Finally, someone with sense.... it scary how many people looked pass this point instead you read Comments after comments celebrating the idea. Government trying to regulate and control everything is not good not good at all.
@wiseoldwizard
@wiseoldwizard 2 года назад
*I can already see Tim Cook saying to abandon the charging port as it taking too space in the the phone and etc and start pushing towards wireless charging...*
@jarls5890
@jarls5890 2 года назад
I've been using 15w wireless charging with my now 3 year old Huawei Mate P20 pro for years. It takes a little longer than wired charging but it is not that bad at 15w. If I really need to charge quickly i plug in the 40W usb-C charger that came with it. Takes it from 0% to 70% in less than 30 mins. Or in more practical terms - if you are at 40-50% - it would reach full in less than 30 mins. One of the reasons I have not changed it out yet - it is a phone that really holds up well. Battery is still fantastic on it.
@EvileDik
@EvileDik 2 года назад
@@jarls5890 Except your wireless charger is pissing 50% of the power you put into it, literally into the wind.
@jarls5890
@jarls5890 2 года назад
@@EvileDik Yes it does generate some heat. That heat is wasted energy. However it seems to be less than 50%. If it actually put 7.5W into the charger at all times it would get very hot. I hope you are aware that the only way to "piss" energy "into the wind" is through heat (at least in any meaningful way).
@EvileDik
@EvileDik 2 года назад
@@jarls5890 Incorrect, I'm not going to go into induction theory* in the comments section but there are much larger losses that have nothing to do with heat. I don't do it professionaly, but I built several Wireless powered devices and had to do the maths to make sure they work. *I'm sure you'd be willing to simulate the flux density distribution in space with Maxwell equations and estimate the losses by integrating the results. I can recommend 'Analysis of Operation and System Losses of an Inductive Power Transfer System for Wireless Charging of Electric Vehicles' if you wish to educate yourself.
@jarls5890
@jarls5890 2 года назад
@@EvileDik Nope. If you read page 70 and onwards in the very thesis you refer to - you will see losses in MANY parts of electronics. However - ALL loss essentially end up as heat - heating up the charging device or the device being charged. The only other possible ways you can lose energy is through radio emission (EM emissions) and magnetic fields. However - the magnetic field being waved about costs/wastes nothing unless it interacts with something. And that interaction would be ...the phone being charged. If EM emission was a big loss - every wireless phone charger would be a essentially a very noisy radio station interfering everything around it - and would have been banned pronto. THUS - we are left with heat. Unless you have some other idea of transferring (wasting) power to the environment? Energy cannot disappear into "nothing". It must take a form. And you do not have that much to chose from. Do not have to be complex - just give me a hint about where the energy goes and in what form.
@hith2re
@hith2re 2 года назад
This is great as technology is supposed to take us to bigger and greater things, and having the same cable for everything is a step in the right direction. Sure it might cause some problems in the future if they find a better cable for some reason and they need to transition every device from USB-C to a new cable, but qualify of life for everyone should be the priority over financial gain for companies because they want to make extra money selling their unique charger.
@peterbreis5407
@peterbreis5407 2 года назад
To state the obvious any change is change, from a standard USB C or from dozens of proprietary connectors. At least if we come from USB C to something better there will be only one adaptor necessary instead of dozens.
@rayoflight62
@rayoflight62 2 года назад
A fully compliant USB-C port has an internal routine to check the quality of the cable; ie if the cable can hold 5 Amps continuously. Otherwise the power supply switches to 1 Amp charging, to avoid melting the cable and the port.
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 2 года назад
I would like to point out that the USB-C head is meant to be "future-proof," meaning it will be the same form factor for the considerable future. Then again, this is coming from the same people who insist on USB 3.0 = USB 3.1 Gen 1 = USB 3.2 Gen 1.
@bghone7044
@bghone7044 2 года назад
@@rayoflight62 Hope you realize you are the only one bringing this voodoo physics into the discussion :)) P.S. I agree :)
@The_oli4
@The_oli4 Год назад
This rule has existed for a long time and it first was for the usb micro and usb b micro. They updated the rule to usb c around 2014 since then Apple has been paying a fine. Now 10 years later the rule will be updated again making s statement that paying a fine is just not good enough anymore. They will for sure update it once there is a better alternative it will take a while tho.
@Mcfreddo
@Mcfreddo Год назад
I find with C that fluff builds up in the hidden male part of the connecter and over time and you have to pick it out carefully- it gets compacted. Haven't found that with the lightening BUT, I don't have an apple phone- may be one needs to have one to find out as phones are usually in your pocket?
@brandons9138
@brandons9138 Год назад
I use a tooth pick that I squash mostly flat to degunk my charging port. It's rigid enough to get down in the nooks, but not hard enough to do any real damage.
@rkustanto
@rkustanto Год назад
I have usb c to jack audio dongle that working fine on my android. But didn't work on my ipad so what's the matter with unify type c port?
@lud3re384
@lud3re384 2 года назад
Apple: "You can't f*ckin do this?!" Entire EU continent: "hehe, tg monsieur" **smokes a cigarette and starts eating a croissant**
@RandomPerson-tz7wk
@RandomPerson-tz7wk 2 года назад
France: * sips wine German: *drinks beer
@lud3re384
@lud3re384 2 года назад
@@RandomPerson-tz7wk Belgian: *does both
@H3rraM4juri
@H3rraM4juri 2 года назад
Finnish: *starts sauna and drinks beer*
@riskinhos
@riskinhos 2 года назад
not everyone in EU is french.
@angriffslusticherWildoger
@angriffslusticherWildoger 2 года назад
@@RandomPerson-tz7wk rather South Europe: drinks wine North Europe: drinks beer :D
@cronostvg
@cronostvg 2 года назад
Please standardize charging cables. We cannot mess up again. We inherited various power point types.
@PauxloE
@PauxloE Год назад
Of course, charging is just a small part of USB-C. The data transfer part is not regulated, as I understand.
@chunkykong1976
@chunkykong1976 Год назад
one question why are the USB-C cables always so short
@getnohappy
@getnohappy 2 года назад
But if my Apple products charge from the same wire as every other device, how will people know I'm special?
@alexalcalaortiz368
@alexalcalaortiz368 2 года назад
the apple logo on the back? it really makes the phone feel extra premium
@cageybee7221
@cageybee7221 2 года назад
6:30 oh my god the meme after apple removed headphone jacks is becoming real
@georgejonsson4819
@georgejonsson4819 Год назад
This was tried years ago with micro-USB. Guess which company didn't want to comply back then either. In all fairness, micro-USB is not the best of connectors, but at least one can use the same charger cable for a lot of devices of different brands.
@Madtrack
@Madtrack Год назад
The major I problem I have with this is definitely innovation. What if gaming phones were experimenting with e-gpu's and needs more pins. Or if laptops with 0 .5kwh batteries. They'll need lower guage wire to push more current through. You can't fit 90 Amps through a USB C port. Literally look at barrel plug connectors. Desktop replacements can use close to 500w now. I ain't using up 3 Usb-c ports for that. Now we'll need to buy 3 high wattage 240w cables. I reckon we use a series of common cables. Tiers. One for each categories of devices that have common power and data transfer requirements.
@marna_li
@marna_li 2 года назад
The promise of USB-C is to be a truly universal way to connect devices, not just for charging, but also replace display interfaces like HDMI and DisplayPort. There is a fragmentation within the industry among products that use USB-C connector to charge devices. Although the USB-C is known by it connector, the spec gives manufacturers a lot of liberty when it comes to how to wire stuff up in the cable. That makes some charging cables for one phone incompatible or even dangerous when used with devices from another manufacturer. I hope that the will solve this.
@bobs_toys
@bobs_toys 2 года назад
That being said, cables that won't carry a current are very few and far between.
@neeneko
@neeneko 2 года назад
I will skip the obligatory xkcd on universal standards.. but USB has been trying to be the 'universal standard for everything' for decades now, and I think we are starting to hit the 'every problem looks like a nail when all you have is a hammer' stage.
@stephenbaxter3369
@stephenbaxter3369 2 года назад
USB C is an absolutely incredible standard with all its capabilities for power and data. The standards organisation should in theory be able to ensure interoperability between manufacturers if everyone follows the rules.
@neeneko
@neeneko 2 года назад
@@stephenbaxter3369 eh, it is a bit of a mixed bag. there has long been a dream of using one cable.. one bus, one protocol, one interface for all things.. but it means it isn't really all that good at any of them and tries to hide it through brute force transfer rates. It also means more and more complex hardware/firmware is required to handle all those divergent capabilities via a single piece of generalized hardware. USB-C is convenient, which significant, but that comes at a cost of, well, everything else.
@marna_li
@marna_li 2 года назад
@@stephenbaxter3369 I expect a monitor to use USB-C for both data and power. I love that I don’t need any other cable to connect.
@pollyjazz
@pollyjazz 2 года назад
The last few years has also seen many standard appliances now using USB chargers and cables instead of typical wall plugs. The uniformization of USB and usb-c cables in Europe means with one USB charger and cable i now can use my desk lamp, tablet ,phone, electric shaver, fan, mini speaker, camera and countless other things without the octopus of tangled cords and chargers i used to need. Makes travel a dream! And camping with a small solar device i can still connect to me essential devices!
@lucretius8050
@lucretius8050 Год назад
Not sure about others but i don't even need a travel adapter that provides the whole socket anymore, i just need a USB-C PD adapter that have common travel attachments.
@catborg780
@catborg780 Год назад
I'd love to see sci-fi like wireless charging where it's almost everywhere, like if you're in a building your phone just starts changing
@SmartPrice84
@SmartPrice84 2 года назад
I'll be sure to get my tiny violin out for Apple 🤨
@mab9614
@mab9614 2 года назад
Not only these charging sockets. There will be a day, when the EU also forces the Americans to use metric system. When I first went to America, a proud American told me: “Welcome to America. We use inches and feet.” Meanwhile she was talking to an Englishman...
@ytpanda398
@ytpanda398 2 года назад
why would we care enough to do that? The system of measurement that average americans use doesn't really affect us
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 2 года назад
Americans already use the Metric system. About half the stuff we use nowadays is measured in Metric, and all English units are officially defined according to Metric units anyway. Since you're an Englishman, I'm going to remind you that Brexiteers were celebrating the opportunity to return to using English units of measurement once they got out from under the boot-heel of the EU. It's utterly absurd to celebrate such a thing, but y'all were celebrating it anyway.
@mab9614
@mab9614 2 года назад
@@deusexaethera While she was saying that(she believed that the US invented such a measurement system), I was thinking didn’t we invent Imperial measurement? BTW, that motion to move back to Imperial is almost certainly a stunt Boris pulls to get the attention away from the scandals.
@rakaalcuzaadnankadar6719
@rakaalcuzaadnankadar6719 2 года назад
That would be glorious! :D But I think it would be so far into the future, though. CMIIW, but one of the reason the US still haven't switched to Metric is do to the fact that Americans are already well acquaintanced with Imperial. I know that people in the UK also uses Imperial, and even in Canada too..... But then again, changing people to exclusively use Metric or exclusively use Imperial is hard. Maybe, in the long term, changes through education will be possible :)
@moritamikamikara3879
@moritamikamikara3879 2 года назад
@@mab9614 Yeah it's a fucking joke. I don't wanna switch back to imperial. In fact, I want to refer to kilometres as miles so I don't have to change the way I speak but still be able to do metric math on them.
@leroy_dartagnan
@leroy_dartagnan Год назад
The problem I see with wireless charging in heat. From what I've heard from friends who use wireless charging, they're devices get quite warm when charging wirelessly. Heat ruins Lithium batteries so until they figure out how to keep the batteries cool while charging, I hope Apple just goes with USB-C.
@MrKaiyooo
@MrKaiyooo Год назад
As someone with a cable that only speed charges with its own brick. Why give them separately.
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