@eet73 what you don't realize is that much of the playing in this piece is improv; the cadences (especially for that full minute at the end) were improv, the trills and flurries of notes were improv. Don't judge a musician or style of music without researching it yourself. As a fellow oboist, I can tell you that we do our fair share of improvisation.
@aquastar2008: There is a version, the Mozart flute concerto in D major, which was composed after this oboe concerto. Both are considered staples in the repertoire for each instrument.
I especially love the concerts here on youtube that feature Albrecht Mayer wearing that cute whale sweater! Man, both these guys have incredible talent, as guided by grueling years of practice.
@theothercanadian the amount of pay really depends on what orchestra you're in and what position you play; true, oboists generally make a pretty decent amount by the end of the year, but it is also true that symphonies across the US are receiving upwards of 17 to 33 percent pay cuts. Also, I never said anything about music being about the money. Being able to perform is my life and dream, but I also need to be realistic about what jobs I get so I can support myself and a future family.
@eet73 Music of our time is very vague. It includes jazz, pop garbage, "rap music" which I find to be an oxymoron, and contemporary classical music. Why does it matter when something was composed? Good music lasts forever. Mozart has definitely lasted 250 years. How did Bach improvise back in his day? He wrote down chord positions and played. Is that really too different from jazz musicians? How much jazz is actually written down today?
@TannerOlivas It was a typo, and you're taking what he's saying out of context. He is telling someone that thinks jazz is the hardest thing in the world and thinks classical musicians are untalented and overpaid that it is much easier to improvise than to perform this piece.
@eet73 excuse me, but who the hell are you to tell me what I can and can't do? I don't remember attacking your dreams, but rather pointing out facts that you're oblivious or just ignorant of. You're taking this debate to a whole new level to the point where I'm getting offended (not that you really care, since you're basically telling me to drop out of college and start new)
@ichiniisankurosaki Sorry my mistake, I meant to say "are NOT overpaid". The figure I produced for you, was after a 30% cut. I think salaries for musicians with permanent positions in professional orchestras are irrelevant because most musicians are freelance, self employed entities. I personally would rather be an underpaid musician, than an accountant with enough money.
wowwee....definitely not a Walmart instrument picked up on aisle 7 by the Barbie display, but it's also the years of practice and talent behind it and a great reed!
wow that is amazing! I wish i could buy that oboe, but here in the Philippines is so expensive to buy i can't afford it, I am practicing playing clarinet,sax and flute,but not really good. I think oboe is difficult to play than clarinet? I specialize in trumpet ,but not really a good player also in piano >>>>anyway your a great musical player, you can perform in orchestra with confidence , your a GREAT!!!! I hope someday I will be a Good music Performer Like you! Alven
@eet73 You clearly are not mature enough as a musician to understand that professional musicians should know how to play ALL styles of music. A real musician does not pick, choose and hate. I admit I am not fond of jazz, but i can recognize and appreciate good jazz, and I can play jazz.
@eet73 so i play oboe and bass guitar and i actually took a course on jazz improve on bass and then on oboe (yeah jazz oboe, not my best chioce) It's not as hard as people might think it is. 3 weeks into the class and I could improvise with no problem. This piece is much harder to preform than improvise. In addition classical music evolved from centuries of brilliant composers in Europe. Jazz evolved from African music which they composed while on the toliet.
@eet73 ouch, that kinda hurt, considering it'smy dream to be one of the 'elitist, overpaid, and insular performers' you talk about. Actually, there is a Union movement in which performers are getting their salaries cut in half, and is initially driving people out of the music business so they can find better jobs. Performing improv with Mozart's music also doesn't have to fit the performance level of his time; it only matters that the performer feels the music and plays it the way they see fit.
@ichiniisankurosaki I'd have to say the tradition of improvising cadenzas was phased out in the romantic era. In my opinion musicians in symphony orchestras are NOT underpaid, their pay is NOT high in any way, the Toronto Symphony has a minimum pay of about 60k, but considering oboists pretty much have to wait for someone to DIE for a position to become available... I myself am a high school classical oboist, making my Carnegie Hall debut in May. It's not about the money, its about the music.
Mozart was commissioned by a Dutch flute player, DeJeann to compose some flute pieces. When he screwed Mozart out of his agreed price, Mozart just transposed this oboe concerto in C to the flute concerto in D. So yes, the oboe concerto was written first. Learn music history, please.
@@excalibur1812 too bad Mozart didn't get mad at an oboe player and transpose the G major flute concerto to F for oboe! Maybe some enterprising oboist could still do it...
@ichiniisankurosaki yeah, but the key word in your comment is "were." People that perform this music today do not come anywhere close to keeping the performance practices of Mozart's time alive. It's all a museum now. I have researched this style of music quite a bit, I can assure you. Jazz players, performing the music of our time, are far better musicians than the elitist, overpaid, and insular performers that work in symphonies today, particularly in the U.S.
i play sax and because of classical music i am going to add oboe as part of my music education. For all the people out there who believe that children do not love classical music. I DO AND IM A CHILD
@eet73 It could not be more clear that you do not know what you are talking about. Are all 25,000 people who showed up at millennium park for the Chicago Symphony Orchestra elitist? Also one could easily make the argument that conventional Jazz is as antiquated an art form as classical music. Except atonal Jazz. Except that atonality in music pioneered by classical musicians like Alban Berg, decades before Atonal Jazz came into common practice, or any practice. Fire your music history teacher
Wait... this is just the Mozart Flute Concerto transposed into C!!!!! Haha oh well what can you do? :P But in all seriousness... "like" if you think this is a new low, even for Mozart. I mean I love his operas, but not his solos/concertos. I think he could have been just a LITTLE more creative in making concerto just for the oboe because it has such a unique and wonderful sound! But hey, who am I to criticize such a great composer? :D
