EV Haters & Conspiracy Theorists! 

Cobalt is also use in the refinement of petrol, no one seem to care about that...

"Wisdom chased them but they ran faster" love that quote 😅

Kia eniro’s and Hyunda kona’s are now available from £16k now, that’s a proper long range 250-300 mile cars becoming more accessible. Not forgetting Renault Zoe 50kw, cracking value now!

This one is the best Driving Ohn... A TV show should kit out 5 groups of flat earthers, based around the world, and they race to get to the edge first....the winner to the edge the group share 20 million

Ice drivers didn't and I presume don't care about the cobalt (child mined) used in the petroleum production process.....

Two cannibals sat around the fire, eating a clown (or was it a jester?) :- "does this taste funny to you?"

looking forward to a collaboration with Mac Master....that will be interesting. Perhaps you can help him prepare better for a road trip and teach him a few fundamentals about EV ownership

my brother has a ID 4 and does 140 miles a day, he said its a bit close for comfort (10% left) sub 5 degrees but the rest of time it does it comfortably.

Lithium I believe is available for extraction in Cornwall, as a Cornishman I'm not surprised as when I did geology at school there is every mineral known to man in Cornwall. As an aside, ev battery chemistry is evolving so quickly that we will be using something other than lithium inside the next 10 years. Love listening to you rabbiting on😊😊

The problem is that some (maybe a lot) of people have no ability to be objective and to change their opinions. They've accepted the first opinion on a topic and that's it....they will never change their minds, even in the presence of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

It's not the best ceiling I've seen! But it's up there!

A lot of these fears are created and irrational! I remember as a kid, watching kids TV, created an expectation that quicksand would be a much greater danger in my lifetime than it has proved to be 😂

Got involved in a silly, youtube argument about EVs exploding left, right and centre. One guy commented and you could almost feel the pent up rage, "You do realise that lithium is highly flammable don't you"? He shouted. "Yeah, right, not like petrol then"?

Did you see the article from GB news? It stated that ev sales were going to decline, because only 6% of drivers were planning on changing to an ev within the next year. I felt I had to point out in the comments section that 6% of drivers would be 2 million new electric cars. Not sure where the so called journalists got his information from, but that doesn't sound like a drop in sales to me.

Logical gents. I've heard worries about EVs being hacked. There was an article from Wired Magazine about hacking a gas Jeep several years ago.

Great video both - it is hard to understand some opinions and the extreme polarisation (sometimes on both sides of the argument) - if you post a different opinion there is so much anger and abuse directed back - its easier to ignore them and stop adding to one’s stress levels and their moneterisation For the people who genuinely believe these conspiracies think how frightening it must be - i feel Sorry for them 😢

All power to your elbows, guys. I think there are a couple of main issues at play with the "EV Haters" in this terribly polarised world: First, I think we all agree we are early adopters of EV technology and put up with the lower range and underdeveloped public charging network, but that could/would not be tolerated by a lot of people in it's current state. We have to hope that the infrastructure and range/charging speed issues will get better as the technology matures and becomes more widely adopted. Secondly, I think you hit the nail on the head with people kicking against the government decision to prevent further new petrol/diesel car sales and compulsion to buy electric cars instead. Without a workable solution for reasonably priced home charging for people not fortunate enough to have a drive to park on, this is a real issue which needs to be addressed by the government who are creating the problem by banning sales of new ICE vehicles. I look forward to seeing your forthcoming discussion with the MacMaster over this.

What do you call 2 chimps that share an Amazon account? Prime mates. Loved the podcast. Thanks both 👍🏾

Great show guys

Most of the posts my contacts post on Linked In get the angry responses from engineers, most of them are retired. It's mad.

I got to the end. I was doing the washing up mind. No jokes, hard luck. Jester??? WTF

Loved this, more please 😂 No joke.

Let’s get you around a table with the macmaster and Geoff buys cars asap. They only surround themselves with like minded doubters

I was walking to the pub with my mates last Saturday, discussing the advantages of a 15 minute city, when this bloke approached me and shouted “THIRG”…. I told him that was just right out of order… I’ll get my coat…

All valid points and I loved hearing you chat about all of these ridiculous comments. The biggest part for me is over 90% of EV batteries can be recycled after any 2nd life, so after maybe 20-25 years they can be used to make a new battery. Cobalt burnt in the process of making fuel has gone out of the exhaust. The grid is getting cleaner with all the renewables and the problem is that for some reason the UK Government still use costs of oil to work out the cost of electricity. Only with high electric costs can an EV cost the same to run as an ICE car in fuel if then charging at rapid chargers all of the time. Not many people do this and hopefully councils will soon realise that those without off street parking will want EV's. Number of rapid chargers is massively increased and increasing yearly. EV's are not yet ready for everybody, but they do not have the majority of issues that are made up, by all of the anti EV people. Remember who will lose out if EV's completely take over....oil companies, countries that sell oil... well now you can understand how and why misinformation is rife. I want to see how everyone is being forced into EV's......the new laws say you can't buy a new ICE car after 2035. So you can buy an ICE one for a long long time, just not a brand new one. If by then fuel prices have doubled and electric prices halved, not many people would want to pay for fuel. No jokes for you jESTER

saw a stupid one recently, something about electrics never dominating the market, well, sure in the next decade or few, but eventually, aside from that, maybe 1/100th of the market for electric vehicles is covered, that's a LOT of cash waving in automakers faces that they can't afford to pass up.

Where 99.9% of the anti-EV crowd fall down, is that they haven't owned an electric car. Most of their views and opinions are baseless.

I've just got to the point where if I get challenged about owning an EV, by someone saying it's not environmentally friendly, I just say it's nice they care so much about the environment but I couldn't give a hoot as I like driving fast and saying money so the children and world be damned.

Surley the instant way to success in the fight against FUD, is to join them Go full loony, placards which read "EV battery radiation killed my cat!"

The 'edge cases' I see presented to prove EV's can't possibly work seem to be getting more and more unhinged. One bloke claimed that he and his wife regularly drove from their home in the East Midlands, over to the Welsh coast 'just for chips' which seemed a little hard to believe. Especially when, on one occasion, he said he'd done it immediately after having driven back from the Netherlands via the channel tunnel. Another guy claimed his (yet again) regular 5 hour drive was only punctuated by a pee in a layby, if needed. Otherwise he drove the entire distance with a packup lunch. Why people seem to want to torture themselves like this is beyond me.

Is it true that car rental companies are dropping EVs because their customers don’t like renting them?

best show format... and you should do more exposer on conspiracy myths... which we can all laugh at in the future :) I love the one about virus's being made in research labs and leaked... that one had me on the floor in stitches... still looking to find how the isolated the virus's personally, its seems very differ cult to find them. Although as you say the apsence of science to prove virus's dosn't of course mean that they dont exist, or that the theory isn't correct, its a clear conspiracy. Have you seen the guy Paul Burgess on youtube... he talks about how terrible global warming is... and the importance of EV's and he's in his 70's I think. love the Yorkshire cuisine... curry... its gone international now... even as far as india. Do the thing with electric fires... I think now a days every fire I see must be an ev... my wife put hot ash in our wheeling bin last year, and we woke in the morning to our neighbor calling out as our bin was already finished... it was just a few meters away from the leaf... and amazing the leave didn't spontaneously compost at the sheer hint and reminder that it should catch fire. The scientific papers which claim isolation of virus's are just like you describe about articles headlines being the opposite of the content... the papers synopses states isolation, and yet the whole scientific report and description clearly show that they never isolated any virus, its so funny how these things are the same. I love the moon landing best, people can't believe that those early frail models from high tech tin foil didn't work, or the wires holding up the astronauts on the landing walks arn't just artifacts of the old footage. jester... squiril :) no good jokes sorry not yt friendly.

RU-vidr MCToon who debates Flat Earthers sums them up best and that the follow the "anti scientific method" to build their case which i've realised applies to anything where someone is "anti" something as follows: 1) Pre-select the desired conclusion 2) Only accept supporting evidence 3) Reject contradicting evidence 4) Declare pre-selected conclusion undeniably "proven"

Jester the squirrel from top gun? I think so not.

Squirrel in a jester outfit much more entertaining than a flat earther 😂

I am THEY! What do you call a Russian Tesla owner....a Muskovite.

When I start on the rant my Daughter has this advice. " Dad imagine a person of average intelligence , therefore 50% of humans are below that point"

Jesters for president.... oh wait, that already happened....

Knock Knock...Jester, Irishman and...

As the electric car accelerated, its quiet hum replaced the traditional engine roar, embodying a futuristic JESTER in the realm of transportation.

What’s got 5 toes and isn’t your foot?

Great video... Can't wait to see you put Mac in his place for all the anti EV crap he spews out

Good video, I enjoyed the converstation lads. I agree 100% I have just given up with negative people, and funny enough its always people who have never driven or even sat in an EV. I just say now, its not my job to convince you, if you don't want one dont buy one it is that simple!. I am part of a few FB EV groups and anti EV'rs actually join the groups just to slag off EV's LOL...why are people so angry!.. its very strange. It's just a car build a bridge and get over it LOL. It is frustrating but I just letting them get on with now litterally no point arguing, doesn't matter what facts you present their mind is made up. Its a bit like when I think back to 2017 when I bought an automatic and the amount of people that said to me oh automatic! why did you buy an Automatic? The lazy man option etc...etc...... HAHHA! too funny! so here we go again... anywhoo... I love my EV and have no regrets can't see me ever going back to ICE or even hybrid... Keep up the good work love both your channels.

mankind is the joke .Great podcast

The 15 minute city backlash is hilarious. It's got nothing to do with cars at all, but people are conflating it with the ULEZ. That horrible restriction where incredibly wealthy Londoners have to have a car more recent than about 2006, or just better in the first place. You know, Londoners who almost always have amazing public transport and don't even need cars. In actuality it refers to the idea that you should be able to get to all your daily needs - groceries, work, education, medical care and leisure - within a 15 minute walk, cycle ride, or public transport. Imagine living IN a city and still not being able to find a supermarket or grocery of any kind within a 15 minute walk let alone if you can use public transport. That's a 0.75 miles as a radius - a circle 1.5 miles across. It also applies only to cities. I do think Americans are a big problem with that because their 'definition' of city is anywhere that calls itself a city. We don't think of places as cities unless they've got 50K people or more. Your village isn't a city, but even that should be walkable. You can guarantee half the whiners live on a farm five miles from town and are horrified that they'll have to pay (you won't) for a shop within walking distance. Even if your local government wanted that, the idea would be for them to do what they can to make it easy for someone to set that shop up. Maybe provide some council land. Not to develop it themselves. It also means that when developers build housing estates, the council should be able to reject anything that doesn't have proper facilities... guess what... they've done that for many decades. Developers in the UK are supposed to provide things like schools and retail units and community buildings. When people complain about not having community facilities, or anything for kids to do, pushing the fifteen minute city (or village) is what will solve that. All it really means is someone pays some attention to this, and tries to prevent food deserts or work deserts. That's an actual thing in a lot of places. And here it should obviously include a Chinese and Indian takeaway desert and incentives to prevent that because it's just not worth living without. Add a chippy and a pizza place and a pub while you're at it. ;)

It’s not just obvious fools posting the crap - today the Conservatives climate minister was saying new oil& gas licenses contribute to decarbonisation.

Thanks guys...I always wonder if the world is getting dumber thanks to social media where everyone has their very own soapbox or do some of these commenters you mention still live in their parents basement/cellar with their tin-foil hat on.

I have some experience of debating with a conspiracy theorist and it was a total waste of my time. He had decided how everything was and had zero interest in listening to any logic. When I put forward a reasoned logical suggestion he completely ignored it and came back with more nonsense. have you ever heard the saying "Throwing your pearls before pigs"?

How is the Volkswagen eup tracking shit? They are angry about premium connectivity not EVs, I imagine the Germans will charge you for it n it probs isn't based spec i4

It's getting worse by the day. Politics polarised things further.

Geoff & Lee Go Karting... And lay down a challenge for YOU. Geoff Buys Cars

Also, most of the "people" that comment in the Web are a few (frustrated individuals) that don't represent the community, but can and are influencing the masses with some success.

I'm here still 😂 EV's will all combust at 12 AM tonight

I can find good reasons for EV's on similar anti EV haters. But opposite Did you know that if we extract lithium from the sea the sea levels will drop. Good thing as this will compensate for sea rising. The low battery location gives a low centre gravity. This is better than diesel suv in crashing into barriers. The SUV jumps over. Due to fumes from petrol cars the red paint fades faster than an EV. In Norway where most cars are EV's the roads are now silent. Vets are find dogs are not getting deaf in old age.

27:26 I see black screen

There was a channel I came across a few weeks ago that was clearly a petrolhead channel, they had tons of videos reviewing ICE vehicles, including tons of sports cars, like Audis and BMWs and other high performance vehicles, and then they one day decided to post a couple of anti-EV videos. It made me wonder "You've posted all of those ICE vehicle reviews, so why the hell bother with the anti-EV nonsense?!" It made no sense whatsoever.

Sending kids down cobalt mines .... we used to send them up chimneys. Good old Victorian values coming back 🙂 Next we will be putting illegal immigrants in workhouses to eat porridge and work for their living just as we did to our kids back in the good old days ;-)

I'm really annoyed at GBN TALK TV , even Geoff Taylor having a rant about evs with fud that was disproved 10 years ago? That is obviously click bait because they get much more clicks than telling the truth.

I'm older than either of you two, and I don't have an EV.... does that make me part of the problem?

😂

EV haters; ... if you don't like them, don't buy one.

You want GBNews to love on electric cars then get the advertising boycott lifted .

One of my favourites at the moment is "what happens to your EV when the gov turn off the electricity". If you think about it an EV is a much better apocalypse car. 1. "They" are not going to turn off the electricity and destroy their own economies 2. The fuel pumps will stop working too 3. Anyone with solar panels or other renewable generation will still be able to charge their car.....potentially for decades 4. You could charge a car with a diesel generator just as you could put that diesel into a fossil car 5. There will still be some stores of fuel which could be raided but eventually these would dry up 6. EVs need very little maintenance so would likely far outlast fossil cars in the long run 7. A lot of EVs are SUVs.....perfect for driving over the bodies littering the streets 8. Some EVs could be used to power other devices 9. We'll have a lot more to worry about than our cars if "they" switch off the grid

Let's try this .... "Journalism" was always fundamentally the "opinion" of the person writing the piece, who probably had direct contact with an "editor" whi may alter the bias slightly by removing or suggesting an addition of a phrase.... The original writer probably had some input to the edit(?). . (The Author probably had a degree of journalist integrity, and concern for their reputation) . Then, the piece was published. It generally reached a reasonably limited audience, subscribed to a journal / newspaper, etc. The majority actually *read* the whole piece. It may or may not alter their opinion, but either way they considered the narrative.... Actually *thought* about it. . A changebin attitude due to a single article wad unlikely and if it DID happen, took a consuderable time to spread , being discussed at length. . Move to today. . We increasingly see literally *INSTANT* comment, "hosed" to our feed, based on previous viewing. This opinion is essentially unedited. . It's often (usually?) presented by a oerson untrained, with no "journalist integrity", little talent, without research, based on opinion, rather than anything close to fact. . The amount of content fosters a "read the headline, move on" mentality. Some may read the first paraghraph, or listen to the first minute. . At that point, the reaction is "thats what I thought!.... Next!" ..... Side note for older gits.... Remember the hotel scene in Crocodile Dundee? . "Whats that?" "Its a TV" "Ah! I saw one of those in a Pub once!" (Turns on TV) "I love Lucy" is playing (Watches for a few seconds) "Yep! That's what i saw!" (Turns off TV) Now, THAT'S a lesson! ..... Now, "We" see the headline, confirm our own bias and move on, the algorithm NOTES that bias and sends us "more of the same" which distills the viewing. . Even when searching, wr subconsciously (?) use search terms that shift us to subjects and opinion which we will agree with. It's also easy to *always* find an individual or more usually a group which *will* hold the same opinion. That's when "opinion" becomes "100% fact" within the group. . At that point, the opinion migrates from "the centre" *and* differing opinions, close to but on either side of that centre, to become *opposite* and increasingly extreme. . Its not going to end well.

Everything will be tried to slowdown EVs. There's big bucks to be made by some by doing it.

Just because others have different opinions on cars or anything = so what just let people think how they want , if they disagree how you think = so what , live your life how you want and the others will live their lives how they want = easy really.

But at least Flat Earthers can tell what a woman is ,Sir Keir Starmer ,Nicola Sturgeon and Ed Davey can’t .

Lets just say i watched to the end, macmaster is the best RU-vidr ever !

Best joke ever: A policeman spots a man driving down the street with five penguins in his back seat. The policeman stops him and says: "Sir, I really think you should take those penguins to the zoo."... The man replies: "Why officer that is a fine idea!".... The man drives off in the direction of the city zoo... The very next day, the policeman sees the same man driving around with the five penguins in his back seat... The policeman stops the car again and says "I told you to take those penguins to the zoo!!!" The man (bemused): "But I did officer...we're going to the beach today!"

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Have you had a nasty accident? You seem to have lost your left leg! 🙂 - - - If the world WAS flat, the cats would have pushed everything off by now! - - - 'Lord' Hawhaw was the first international spammer! - - - That squirrel must have eaten the cable, because the screen went black! - - Can't think of anyone called Jester. There was a Lester, something to do with horses!

Why are electric cars suited to women? Because they always take charge

Hi Guys, greetings from Oxford. Yes, there are still many people who hate EVs and seem to lack critical thinking skills. Much of this is fear of change. I enjoy engaging with most of them; usually in a car park when I park my BMW i3; sparking a conversation.

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Jester

Hello.You mentioned covid a couple of times so can i ask you a question ? Do you think it was a proportionate response to attempt to vaccinate every person on the planet considering our Chief Medical Officer Chris Whitty announced on live TV in May 2020 that the virus would be fatal to 1% or less of the population?

Tesla can turn off your car that’s a fact.

despite saying you don't want to be political - you have been and are generalising re. older people who may also be "right leaning". I'm both of those and we have two EV's - so please be more careful with your assumptions.

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Comes across as very patronising.

The Vegans have been replaced by EV haters? Bugger, I’m a vegan EV driver who chose Tesla partly as it has Vegan interiors and others had ‘premium leather’. I tried to keep that to myself but couldn’t. 😂

5 reasons Norwegians NEVER have problems charging EVs in winter blizzards The Electric Viking

Oh dear...What a couple of clowns! 🙄

The reason why many people don't like EVs is because it has been because they have been mandated by many governments around the world. So we will not have a choice. It is also more expensive per mile than ICE if you have to use public chargers. Worst depreciation than ICE cars. Almost impossible to insure certainly more expensive. Your rant is laughable. Do you know anything about WEF? I suggest you check them out. I will stick to my ICE car thank you very much.

BOOOO 👎👎👎 You people dont have a shred of divine sense. If you know you know, thats how it works. But sadly you dont

EVs are a rolling bomb all the early adopters and the rich and stupid bought one and now it's the end for EVs, nice product but just a toy. Less than 1% of the people in the world have and EV and that will fall soon.