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I'm one of your patrons and was directed to this video from Patreon. I totally hear what you are saying about join up and "racing them around to tire them out". I am restarting a 6 year old draft-cross paint. He was sent to me because he was very dominant at home, bullying the owners other horses even as she was around to the point where he was dangerous. I did do a join-up/catching game inspired exercise with him to get him to accept my leadership. I did this in a wide open area, with his pasture mate present. It wasn't about tiring him out, but simply about moving his feet. Here's the link to that session if you are interested in watching a paint dry🤪 : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xMzWq7Rmn1M.html It was a successful session because the next day I did a similar exercise and it took next to nothing for him to stick to me like glue. I still have to upload that session and I will link it to the video 👆. I'll likely edit my journey with him so far, for you to evaluate as part of my Patreon benefits.
I’m pretty proud of this lady, she’s getting the help she needs and I think she chose the right guy. Ryan is doing a very nice job! I think this will be a nice horse when all is done - it’s learning quick.
However, if she raised this mare, some of the things she wants her to lesrn as an adult should have been taught as a foal, when handling is less dangerous and easier to teach.
@jts3505 Well, we're all still learning... Sadly, we aren't all like Ryan, who seems to have an instinctual understanding of horses. Plus, we don't know how many horses she has or has ever raised. This could be the first time she's ever raised a foal! Kudos to her for reaching out for help!
I can’t imagine her having a bad temperament given she’s a Clydesdale-Gypsy Vanner cross. I’m going to love seeing her come along. And I’m not gonna lie. Your grass does look pretty darn good.
I dont have horses, but I love all animals, especially horses, and it just makes me happy to see humans really understand animals and work with them humanely. I hope to have a horse someday.
100% agree on running them around. Getting the focus and having good communication is more effective than running them around until they are so tired they become compliant.
Things I check for in a new horse (or rather, things I usually have to teach a new horse!) by order of importance would be: Can they stand quietly next to me on a loose lead? Can they be touched all over while standing quietly? Do they face up to me if I move around at liberty? Those 3 things are the basis for catching, handling feet etc. Then after that: Do they understand and give to pressure on the lead? Flexing their head side to side. Yielding shoulders and hindquarters, respecting space. Lowering their head, backing. Desensitizing to scary objects, swinging ropes, fly spray, tarps. If you have a horse that does all that, nothing else will be too much of a problem
Considering reentering the horse world. Rode as a youngster, never had any direction looking forward to learning as much as I can, so I can be as comfortable with a new horse as possible. Such a wealth of education I'm obtaining you are a very good instructor, easy to follow. Thanks for sharing.
With children and animals, consistency is key! I see soooo many people who aren't consistent in how they treat/train animals and then end up confused as to why the animals behavior is all over the place.
Running them around - it happens all the time at horse shows! We have seen people out early in the morning before a show and lunge them for 45 minutes. They also tie their heads up high for hours (thru the night) to get the horse to lower its head in the show ring. 🤦♀️. I seriously can say that most people who show don’t understand how to speak the horse language.
@@Lisa_GalCali Forcing a horse to maintain any non-resting position for a long period of time is abuse...and can cause serious physical and mental problems. That's why I don't like tie downs (standing martingales) or any "bitting rig" where the handler can't immediately release once the horse gives.
That is just complete torture to keep the horses heads high all night, like, what the hell, would these people do that to themselves? They just want the fast result. No patience or understanding, nor the desire to understand... Never heard of that before and this is really pure abuse! Just imagine you can't speak a language and in order for other people to understand you, you just pull up a weapon and force or hurt them and have them do what you want based on fear or pain. Completely, absolutely (*swearword*) bullshit... The horror never ends..
I ran a TB breeding farm, growing young steeplechasers. I never sheltered the horses from anything. They were use to the ATV, tractors dogs and children. It was nothing for the dogs to chase a rat through the loose barn and the youngsters not move at all. In the UK we frequently feed haulage which is wrapped in polythene. One day the youngsters pulled one of these large wraps into their pen. I went to pick it up and they were pulling on it. I just threw the whole thing over two yearlings with a weaner foal between them and none flinched at all. It surprised me that there wasn’t a reaction.
As soon as I heard her first whinny at the intro during the interview, I adored Willow immediately. I would definitely want to own a horse like her. She is such a little sweetheart❤
Beautiful horse. She sure looks like she wants to learn. Looks like you've got a pretty good student there. Love the methodical way you approach items. Establish who's the alpha is and make clear what you want . Animals like people just have off days, recognizing that and finding the pace they need to go at separates masters from the novice. Would have to say you are a master sir.
This is absolutely amazing introduction. Love the obstacles too! I have learned so much from you Ryan! Years ago i almost bought a 4 yr old just by taking it for a walk in the paddock. So so much more to check out thank you!
Wow, what a change in such a short time.. She went from being distracted to looking towards you for direction. She would be a fun horse to work with. Another great video from Ryan.
As always, your videos inspire me with my own training. I hope the owner of this horse watches closely to your techniques. She could use a training session just as much as the horse. I know that I'm a natural with horses, but even I need training as I learn better techniques. I watch you as much as I watch the horse you're training. Thank you for sharing Ryan. I brought home two 5 year old mares a few weeks ago. I study your videos a ton so I don't miss a step. I'm always afraid I'll put holes in there training, so I like to go over previous videos from you to check if I forgot anything. Much thx from a girl who just loves horses.
She seems like a sweet one! She looks like a hard worker, just a bit confused, and anxious. Im not through the video yet, but she looks like she will be an interesting one to watch!
I am very greatfull for such video, hope to see more of your daily work. There are more, than 10000 km, between us and here I have no chance to get such knowllage, but thanks to youtube and your efforts , we can, Thank you very much for this!!!
I'm big on safety. I have often said (including in a few videos) the good training is a safety issue. A well trained horse is always much safer to handle. Thank you for repeating that thought near the beginning of this video. At my age I don't want to risk injury, so I train them to be safe. You still have to watch out for that "other" horse when you are out in the pasture. Now, what would I look for in a horse and what tests would I do... I would make sure it has four legs and a tail. LOL. I don't really care. I pay as, and assume the horse knows nothing, and train the horse I get. It is a challenge to me to meet the horse where it is and make a good horse out of any horse I get. Just because it is born with an odd personality doesn't mean it doesn't deserve a good home.
It was so much fun to watch you and Wyllow go shopping. She is a sweet horse. Can't wait to see what you do with her and the lessons that Wyllow and Human are learning. Thank you
I bought a 7 month old Morgan filly. She turned 2 last March. I spend every day with her and my other two horses. She's my first young horse I've ever trained. We've bonded and each day we learn something new. I love starting a young horse knowing she will be an awesome mare.
Sounds like you were doing what you have to do to get a great horse. The lady that has this horse just wants it fully trained and ready to go right now. But she hasn't put any work into it. And you know darn well she won't put any work into it after the horse is trained either. So she doesn't ride this horse and interact with it often. It's gonna go right back to its old habits because it's a horse. And a smart one too. I love this horse. This horse has so much potential. I just hope it's not wasted on this lady. Sounds like she has kids, so maybe that will help, maybe the kids will get into the horse. I just hope the horse has a good happy life. But people don't always realize that that takes time and effort.
This vid is in my most favorite yet! You show and state your techniques and yet youve expanded the whole scenario by taking her out and exploring! Sweet! Thanks!
Backing. Its my favorite thing to do. I use it the similarly to the way you use sidepassing. Its easier to teach a new horse than a side pass, tells me how sensitive they are, gives me a better view of the ears and eyes and not a normal movement so they kind of have to think about what youre asking and where theyre going.
Excellent evaluation and clear explanations of WHY you are doing what you are doing. I have a 4 year old mare that is at the extreme of a left-brain dominant horse. Will go over/through any obstacle and as a two year old, taught herself to herd goats (that her pasture mates were afraid of). One time an alpaca challenged her at the gate, and when she told him "move off, it's time for me to come in and have dinner," the alpaca spit in her face! What did she do? She pinned her ears and chased him off! Obviously this kind of horse offers different challenges in training. I wouldn't say they are easier...just different! If you can point to a video where you address this type of horse I'd be very much interested. (I just subscribed to your Patreon channel and posted a more extended version of this question there.)
I got such a laugh out of the drunken sailor. First time I've seen you do it through your videos (I'm "this month" new, but I keep coming back). Definitely looks like an enthusiastic toddler, which obviously we need horses to understand and not be afraid of too.
It’s so easy to criticize, if you don’t have anything nice to say it’s better left unsaid! I commend this lady for getting the professional help for this horse as well as for her. I also follow the herd , Friesian horses, they don’t start training until their three years old.
What a lovely mare. I think she would be a terrific mom as well, if she was bred. You have a terrific approach with training horses Ryan. Thank you for sharing your techniques.
I learned to ask the owner what they know, then test that right in front of them. Also, when I got my gelding who was my first, seller wouldn’t allow a test ride, and claimed it’s normal for some horses to be so against trailering that they won’t get in. I have obviously educated myself since then but he sold me a horse that I had to completely restart on my own. He bucked my wife on his first ride and that’s when we knew we’d been blatantly lied to. I have since got him quiet and easy using knowledge I gained mainly from a mix of you and Clinton Anderson. You each have great information that has completely changed my horses temperament and I’ve ridden him 3 times now. It’s not a perfect situation since I’m a novice and he’s far greener than we were told but we’re learning together and it’s thanks to this information.
I went shopping today with my newly purchased 4 year old and she did great! She was really curious about everything and after just a couple of visits, she was confident. Hoses, puddles, cars, children toys, etc. and the puddles were a big NO in the beginning.
At 20 minutes in when you added pressure by making more energetic movements and she tried to kick and leave you calmly said no that is not acceptable. She was also “tired”, at least she thought so. She has probably an “I am done because this is longer than what I usually do”, mentality. People don’t realize they teach a length of time to their horses, when someone then comes in and asks them to focus longer than that established time they can get dull and sullen. For example warming up a horse you consistently lope 3 circles both directions and then stop they get to that 3rd circle and are ready to be done. I see a difference between mares and geldings in these situations many times. Not always but some. 😉 Appreciate your vlogs Ryan and the way you approach horses. We have improved In thinking that a horse has to be “tired”. Totally agree to finding out where the horse is and then see which direction/method is to be used.
Oh SHE IS SO LOVELY! She just needs to find her human and bond with them!!! She would be BEAUTIFUL to BREED with! I love her spunkiness... her horse communication is perfectly clear to me! And you seem to also know that because she is just learning at 5 to be ridden by a person what she will need to make her a good horse for the RIGHT person (aka) family to own! I'm going to go watch the one I can see of her bucking... cause now I'm real curious to know about her progress over the last yr? But oh boy do I ever think she is lovely, I'd love to make a foal from her line! :D
Haha - this mare is just so cute: ''oh gras - good - now i'm fine ;))' there are horses that relax completely no matter what as soon as they can get their mouths into the green ;))))
My gypsy has started to leave the property after 7 years of not being off of it because of me not having a trailer big enough for him. But we have worked with him since he was a baby. First ride with no buck and same with saddle. Still refuses to buck
Nice video:)! Yesterday I had a thought about leading a horse while I was leading mine. We just finished a free lunge session and I walked her around the arena a few times talking at her about horse things. During a lull in the one sided conversation I tried to lead her from her right side. She just won’t have it. If I lead her by walking ahead of her she is good with following directly behind me. My first thought was to do more leading on the right side but then I thought about our showmanship training days. We are very much programmed to do the leading thing in a regimented way so it probably is not a great idea to begin to unravel all of that work just so the horse will lead from both sides. I figure that if she is balanced during saddle work and ground work at lunge and long line, then it’s not a huge deal and probably would be a counter productive exercise to insist on leading from both sides. My mare is very well trained and her training lasted many years so who am I to bother her with undoing all of that for very little gain. So this is the difference in the handling of a finished horse as opposed to a starting horse. After they have been through it all and have proven that they are committed to the program it’s ok to relax in some areas but with caution and loads of forethought. I look forward to your thoughts on this. Thanks and also a big !!!WAY TO GO!!! that the fund raiser went well. That’s awesome!!
Loved hearing your view for tiring the horse before training/riding. I don't do it as it doesn't make sense to me. Also it's just a warm up to my Arab :)
Not bad aslong she doesn, t hurt her owner. Still lot of time too learn and ride her. The horse has no damage from bad handling and been able too developed strong.. Also seems confidend, wil become great horse for her too ride. She was in no rush, good for her 🥰
So helpful! I've been doing groundwork with my 2 year old Shire and in his large stable he is fine but gives me very little attention outside the stable. He is too busy looking at everything else 👍
When working with a horse or horse shopping, I like to see how they react to me swinging the lead rope helicopter style next to them on either side, as well as how do they react to the lead rope being tossed over, under and around their legs. And good ol side flexion
I agree with the "Join up method", I don't like that word. I think everyone has a different focus but right what you said, is you didnt have to run her around in circles. You kind of pin pointed or narrowed down something to work on and sometimes horses that are nervious, like hotter breeds the more nervious they are the more energy they get lols, so giving their mind something to focus on helps I think.
So good you are great at explaining and going slow but firm, but wish you would get the halter up tighter as it could hurt her if she steps on rope hard. She already got it stuck in her mouth.
Anyone that talks sh*t about your training does not know horses, the only thing you do that also most horse trainers do that I don't do or don't like, is talk way too damn much with working with humans, Trust me humans can not take anything in when you talk and talk, I fell it is best to just give then the how and why, keep it simple. I get your videos like this are different but when you're teaching a human all that over-explanation hurts more than it helps. For me, it reminds me of car salesmen always selling themselves. As for your skill with horses, you are great.
Has a 5 year old horse for 5 years, horse is walking all over owner...I wonder who's fault that is? Also, if she doesn't have the time to train a horse to lead properly as a foal, which is the easiest thing to train, I doubt she has the time to ride the horse. Just sayin. I couldn't be a horse trainer, I would be too brutal to my clients haha. Thank god there are great trainers like Ryan!
Yep. Anyone who doesn’t understand how horses communicate should always start with an older horse so they can learn. We did the same thing. We knew pretty close to nothing when we got our first horse. It’s been 15 years and we have learned a lot in those years. We not (me and my daughters - ages 20 and 12) can speak horse and don’t have to use harsh anything - but do the herd leadership techniques. 💕
I absolutely love your videos!!! I have a question! Please help😭. I'm working with an older couples 4 year old and she's starting to become aggressive. So I started working with her she always try's to be the alpha female. Doing ground work she'll turn for me on a soft feel but no matter what I do I cannot get this horse to back up unless I put pressure on her chest or the lead rope pulling back...I've tried wiggling the lead rope and getting in her space to move her back tried a flag and whip but she becomes aggressive and tries to kick, shows me her teeth and always always tries to run me over. I've trained mustangs before and other horses this one is like one I've never seen🥺I really want her to do well this horse just is very very pushy and I get a little in my feelings to much and upset. I'll wait until I calm down but nothing I do works she tries to run me over while lunging too she won't get out of my space with and ground work tool the lead rope helps her get going nicely but I don't want to smack her so much I feel like it's bad even though she's walking right into it. I tried everything in your pushy horse videos and tried creating space but while trying to create space she becomes even more pushy, and I'd say aggressive. I've desensitized her to the tools as well!...Please if you could give me any advice I'd appreciate it🤦🏻♀️
Favorite prospective horse evaluations: Some combination of exercises I ask the current owner or handler to do while I watch. I would always ask the current owner/handler to lift up and clean the horse's hooves - and let them know they can do whatever they want in terms of prep for that, but I want to see that while watching the big picture. Bottom line, I can't tell you how many times I've just walked on deals in five minutes when that request turns into a clown show almost immediately. Unless I'm doing charity work, I'm not concerned that it's not the horse's fault, because I know it isn't, but for the most part I'm not interested in acquiring, certainly not paying for, some problems created by the current or prior owners/handlers. I'll let them continue owning that or let them grift someone else into that - not me. I was born at night but not last night. The name's just straight Franklin, not St. Franklin, when it comes to paying for something. Piece of advice I've learned and adapted from my elders: If you can float it, fly it, fu@k it, or ride it, rent it.
