empathy...my best mate died from cancer 8 years ago and I miss him more than I could have ever have imangined. loss..gain..change..what a lesson for even less than? everything is a gesture..but this is as genuine as I can respond. keep loving keep listening
When I hear a Porcupine Tree song I always think, this is my favorite one. Then I listen to another and think again, this is my favorite one. Does anyone else have that awesome dilemma?
Those were my thoughts exactly pacrat90 about 9 years ago. I just turned 56 in March and have followed music closely since the late 60's. P.T. in my mind are one of the best, most original bands I've ever heard. Props to Steve Wilson for his musical genious and for putting together a group of extremely talented musicians.
Amazing song from a band who have the incredibly rare ability to sound even better live than on the studio versions. Im gutted i discovered this band so late, It has opened me up to Steven's amazing solo stuff and recently Pineapple Thief who have embraced Gavin's incredible drumming and sound amazing for it.
it's pretty obvious by the comments here PT was is an awesome with fans that are intelligent , and love deep intense music .I'm going to 3 Steven Wilson shows coming up soon!
II'm 60 years old. I've been through the 60's-70's and all !! My favorite group is Pink Floyd!! But I've been listening to PT for the past 6 year's and I haven't looked back since. Every day I listen to them ..doesn't matter what song ... even though I have my favorites , love the way they put everything together!! Harmony's and all. Drummer KICKS ASS!! they all do really!! Thanks for downloading on YT for us all to hear!!!!!!
Big Floyd fan here, I started listening to them when I was 15, A Momentary Lapse of Reason had just come out and later on I saw the Delicate Sound of Thunder VHS and I was amazed by all the lasers, sound and outstanding effects, Gilmour's voice and guitar playing. In the late 90s a friend of mine said to me "listen to the new Pink Floyd" and he lent me The Sky Moves Sideways, I was hooked, I felt the same emotion and eagerness for more as when I was 15.
Michell Guzman ... same here. Momentary Lapse of Reason got me hooked on Pink Floyd. Huge PF fan!! Never had a chance to see PF in concert, which I will regret to my dying day. Have seen Roger twice, and David at the Hollywood Bowl. I LOVE PT so much! Awesome, awesome band!!
Now I' m 65 years old, sitting in a private chair, but my head, hands and arms are okay and i have played guitar all the time of my life. - Now i have to go into a retirement home, but I AM NOT AFRAID: Because yesterday i bought a PRS guitar, a "black cat" amp, some effect pedals and a drum machine ( because i don' t think they have a prog rock band there!) - and i keep all my P.T. music and tutorial videos! - So my life-end-resort can come - I'M PERCECTLY PREPARED!!😃🎸
His not having any kind of shampoo or even any kind of conditioner whatever . He just used that I knew it as he told me personally is just 😎😎 his own white things from his body.
Before we totally destroy this world how about a handful of Porcupine Tree \ Tool shows? Together, of course. Nothing having to do with new music (unless of course something IS released (Tool in 2014)). Just a few hours from each band with enough time between sets for the audience to recover from the last and prepare for the next. I'm going on 56 and have seen 'em both. I noticed on each occasion how the audience becomes one with the performers. I kinda like that.
To Bill Ebnor, I'm 62 , been listening to Dream theater since 1992 grew up with the Who & Keith Moon, Frank Zappa, I was ready for something new, these guys do it for me
John Wesley, although he was only a touring member contributed so much to PT’s shows. His guitar playing and his backing vocals have so much depth to Steven’s songs. I hope Mr Wesley is having a continued successful career as a musician. Oh, and a fantastic song from a phenomenal album.
Sorry for the Pink Floyd fans or others band... But Porcupine Tree Is Better. All the songs by PT are Amazing, this is the Only Band which never make a bad song. You can find very good songs from PF but there are a lot Of bad song. PT is the Best Band Ever, with no bad song. Even Less is Better than almost the all PF songs. Sorry for the Fan, don't tell me "You cannot touch PF...", PT cannot be compared to PF, 'cause Porcupine Tree is just The Best.
Es una INMENSA banda contemporánea; que honor haber vivido a la par en la época de PT. Y ni hablar de la magestuosa voz de Steven y los músicos de culto que tiene PT. Son realmente fuera de éste mundo.
I’ve been a fan for a solid week now(LOL) and can’t get enough of them. I’ve literally listened to them no less than 8 hours a day since last Friday. Pink Floyd has been my number 1 band for 40+ years and I truly believe PT has replaced them. Still struggling to accept they have been around so long and I’ve never heard of them.
I feel the same, having discovered them a month ago and already know most of the words to so many of the songs and they are plugged into my headphones every night when I get home from work and I listen to them all day at work and they are plugged into my head all weekend too. It's soooo nice to have something new, but it's not new and so where have I been? I thank the universe for Steven Wilson every day now.
Its funny, that when we meet, all we do is talk, Its funny though, what we need is, to take a walk, To tell each other as we stroll by the trees, To tell each other, we are on our knees, Lets listen to the music that runs through our ears, And catch the magic that brought us to tears. 25-01-13-17-05-02-23-53
Often wondered why Steven changed the words slightly when playing this live. On the record it's "You're a martyr for even less." Here, and when I saw them live, he sings: "I'm a martyr, to even less."
I think he's getting confused on the verses. If you listen to the 'recordings' album, you'll find that Even less had a few extra verses. On the regular verses, it's "you're a martyr for even less". However, on the extra ones it's "I am a martyr to even less". So, I think he's mixing them up.
+Kerry Gardner How privileged were you to have witnessed this masterpiece! Was that the Tilburg show? If there were an afterlife, this is the music that would be played there.
+David Burton There is an afterlife, it is simply a matter of choosing where one will spend it. Jesus Christ died so you can have eternal life with him. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, whoever would believe on him, would not perish but have eternal life" John 3:16 the purpose of this life is simple, it is to choose where one will spend his eternity. The cost of eternal life is free however it is not cheap, It Was Written in Blood on a wooden cross 2000 years ago. He would have died and sacrificed himself even if it was only you. Know this my friend. he loves you and is patiently waiting for you to come to him. However he is a gentleman and will not force you, it is a free choice, yours to make. Choose Life!!
Rob, I wonder which afterlife you mean. It could be the Christian version as you've quoted, but it could also be Jewish or Islamic among the Abrahamic faiths where your actions in life are judged as good or bad by whichever god presides. Then again it could be Norse afterlife in Valhalla ruled by the god Odin, where your past glories in battle are celebrated. Or it might be the Hindu afterlife where the soul is recycled to a different body in a new life which is governed by Lord Krishna. Perhaps you could consider the Wiccan afterlife in The Summerland where the soul rests and learns from its experiences. All these ideas of afterlife are variations on one theme, and one is no more valid than any other to someone looking at them objectively. The point in general is that you or I don't actually know, but we have our opinion formed by our life experiences. My point specifically was that this song would be a wonderful soundtrack to any afterlife in which you have belief.
SW & Porcupine Tree rescued my great love & passion for music which had grown stagnant & something I was beginning to associate with bygone youth...I could try but would never be able to express the magnitude of what that means to me.
I am so sorry for you and your friend who took his life, I was well acquainted with a very kind man who did the same I remain disturbed and. so sad, best wishes to you
An old Rock Band I used to follow had a great lyric. We had a flying guitar man Maybe the fastest in the land But he was going no where fast Speed ain't nothing withouth class The Good Rats
Nova---I had the very same reaction to PT that you did. Thank you for so beautifully describing an extremely complex emotional response to this sublime music.
A body is washed up on a Norfolk beach He was a friend that I could not reach He thought I was cold but I understand But for the grace of god goes another man And I may Just waste away From doing nothing But you're a martyr For even less For even less For even less A choirboy is buried on the moor Where we used to go dreaming when we were bored Some kids are best left to fend for themselves And others were born to stack shelves And I may Just waste away From doing nothing But you're a martyr For even less For even less For even less
Its funny, that when we meet, all we do is talk, Its funny though, what we need is, to take a walk, To tell each other as we stroll by the trees, To tell each other, we are on our knees, Lets listen to the music that runs through our ears, And catch the magic that brought us to tears. 25-01-13-17-05-02-23-53
Yup I'm 54 got turned on to PT like , I'm big into old prog , my wife tried turning me on , and I wasn't having it..but then I noticed they were coming to town, thought I'd take her....!! I was totally blown away ! Hooked for life saw them twice , and Steven Wilson 4 times , I feel like a shmuck for not getting it sooner ...means I missed a few shows that we'll never get , heard some fans met up with Steven Wilson on tour ,and he answered the big question....no PT...bummer...
To quote another commenter: "Legend has it The Bassist fell into a River of Eternal?) Happiness"-- LOL😄😂👍👌..P.T is àbt30/70 on my cheese but proggy level..hard to find these days..Steven Wilson fan my Bro is..just other than the Girl standard btwn two Buildings album...I'm digging em just prefer to almost not watch em just listen..gd stuff tho🎶🤟😷✌🏻✌🏾❤️💪👋😷🐻
Its funny, that when we meet, all we do is talk, Its funny though, what we need is, to take a walk, To tell each other as we stroll by the trees, To tell each other, we are on our knees, Lets listen to the music that runs through our ears, And catch the magic that brought us to tears. 25-01-13-17-05-02-23-53
I sarted listening to the band with this song..... said to myself :" this moved my inner feeling and senses upside down". I was working at the moment the song started and I became completely literally paralized ( I just stoped doing what I was doing at the moment and listened to the song).
I know Iam going to frustrate everyone of PT's fans, but if you were pushed to answer, what is your top 3 PT songs what would it be? Mine would be Lazarus, What happens now?, Anaesthetise (please don't respond by saying it's impossible, but that's where the fun is) let's do this, it would be great to see the vast difference or similarity among PT fans about their choice of the Best songs....
my favorite song to BLAST my first and last SKI day! This is my ULTIMATE band/ song to start from TOP to BOTTOM - thank you for the BE-A_U-tiful SONG that I start and finish my day - 'even less' - La Senora has been brought to you by MF Strong song......dream.....stock shelves......
In the studio version SW sings, " .. but YOU'RE a martyr FOR even less .. ", but here in this live version, he sings, "..but I'M a martyr TO even less". Wonder what made him change it.. :)
Skanoza well the first relased version had "Jesus was crucified, but God is a martyr for even less, for even less" So this change could be just the next step for making the song "family friendly"?
i was wondering that too...because i always took the studio lyrics to mean "yeah i might be pathetic and alone, but you took your own life, so you'll have even less of a life than i will." i haven't figured out what this version might mean
I know in the extended version there's a line "I had a stupid dream, that I could change things. But I'm a martyr to even less, to even less..." but yeah I can't quite figure it out. On the newest tour it seems like he alternates.
Rob Bay i looked into it a bit more and found this, scroll to the bottom of the page and it has all the alternate lyrics neuralrustsite.wordpress.com/stupid-dream/
One of my all time fave Porcupine Tree tracks... the power they get through this song when they play it live, is awesome. Steve Wilson is a genius.He truly has his finger on the pulse of life. enjoy!
yes, I am 60 too! Guitar player. First heard this song in a Warren Miller flick. 10 years ago I turned PT on to a 20 year old kid .Blew his mind! Me too!
