Quote, _"R-Type arcade runs at a higher resolution than most standard resolution arcade games (384x256) and has a refresh rate of 55 Hz."_ Evercade technicians didn't take the challenge of emulating it seriously: it required a bit of customization and special attention from a software engineer. You discussed input lag, but you didn't discuss shimmering.
Exactly. I didn't discuss shimmering at all. Because I don't know anything about it. I'm not a technical expert. And truthfully, I didn't notice it. I know a lot of people are very sensitive to aspect ratios and pixel sizes, but it's not something I pay much attention to. I would also feel like it was misleading for me to talk about something I don't really know about. I like to stick to what I DO know. Let me spend some more time with the evercade. I'll be reviewing the games I have for it separately.
I'm just writing to you in a spirit of helping out, I'm not finding fault with you. To give an example: the emulation of Hebereke ("Ufouria") is obviously, egregiously wrong… but not a single youtube channel (other than my own) noticed this. I wrote to at least two youtubers asking how they could fail to see what's wrong with the proportions (as they played the game for hours, not minutes) and they just shrug their shoulders. Anyone who is familiar with the proportions of the screen for any NES / Famicom game should have noticed something was wrong with Hebereke: nobody did (aside from myself). I have no explanation for this aspect of human perception / psychology.
@VEGANVANIA it can be difficult to notice things like this, especially when making content. Game Sack is really good at that stuff. But not all content creators are experts at the technical side of things. I'm definitely not. I've played thousands of games, and I'm an expert on the gameplay, and theory of game design... but I rarely notice things like framerate (until it drops). Remember, that in a test, a large portion of people can't tell the difference between 4k and 1080p
There is a huge difference in smoothness with the evercade version and the PC-Engine version russing on the FPGA Analog Duo. FPGA kills emulator any day.
@MarquisDeSang I'm still on the fence about FPGA. Several people I've spoken to have told me the input delay is on par with what I saw on the evercade. But, if I ever do go the emulator route, it will be fpga
Great to see you into the Evercade ecosystem. Love my Evercade....I'm about 50 carts in so far....I have a full collection to date. I remember I had a similar problem when first got my VS., the power plug I was using wasn't pushing enough amps to run the thing.
I like Evercade because I don't have any old console. My oldest is the PS3. So having physical copies of retro games (even though is emulation) is quite special for me. I also never played most of the games Evercade has, so it awesome to discover new (old!) games. Had no issues with my unit by the way.
Thanks for covering the lag. I've had some experience trying to keep captured video in sync with cam video and it's a real PITA. 🤣 Does this VS-R drop sync a lot? The regular VS does between games+during boot video, and I notice the MiSTer does that a lot too when the sync modes get set as tight/immediate as they can get. my previous tv really hated that. My guess is the tradeoff for that is cutting a frame off of the lag. (at least that's how it tests on MiSTer with MiSTerlaggy)
I had no drops... but I only played about an hour. Also, it was 2am... and I was barely awake It's issues like this that make me stick to original hardware. At least when that screws up, you know there is nothing you can do about it. There's solace in that 🤣
It's funny that you posted this yesterday. Last night, my sons and I were just comparing my oldest boy's Evercade cart version of R-Type to the PS1, PC Engine CD, and Master System versions. They both agreed that the PS1 version was the best.
Overall the quality is good but the glossy controller sucks. Would you mind sending me this Tomb Raider Collection cartridge? Cause I ordered it on amazon and it still hasn't shipped 😂
Sorry! I am going to play it. What I meant to say was that I'm not going to play it in the review because I'm not familiar with it. Your copy will come soon enough 🤣
Evercade as an idea is great, physical games you can collect makes it an attractive product but man, the amount of issues and mis-steps blaze have had with the entire range and still seem to keep doing is a joke, the latest 'R' range of devices have all had issues and manufacturing delays i'd not be surprised if them cutting corners somewhere is just degrading the product line too much.
That's the main problem (input lag) with Evercade. If you use run-ahead features on retroarch you can "test" your "input lag and "delete it"... That means that you can play without input lag even using software emulation + wireless controller + average tv... I love playing on original systems but playing with less input lag than a CRT+original system using software emulation is like magic to me... Sadly Evercade is not there...yet... 4.5 frames is far from impressive from an emulation point of view...
You make a lot of good points that are all true. But it's a totally different market made for different people. It's like saying, "do you know you can take a Ferrari and cut the headers, and then add turbo chargers to the engine.... and then if you replace the fuel lines with carbon nanofiber... and run 100% ethanol... you can raise the horse power up from 800 to 1200! Vs. Dude I was just trying to review a Honda civic" 🤣
@@RNGGaming-nv6zi I think input lag is crucial for retrogamers / collectors. But yeah I totally agree with that if you think Evercade is just for casual gamers...
100% I'm hoping that by showing them some support, it will eventually change into something more serious. Especially as the big consoles go more digital
Companies see that emulation has become good enough to sell. I wasn't a fan of emulation in the early days but I'm one of its biggest fans. Nice video.
Cool channel, i really dig your review. I've had an Evercade VS for a bit along with 14 or so cartridges. I love most of the things Blaze does with it, making some decent stuff more accessible like they do is always a net positive and adding the physicality they do is great. Some stuff drives me nuts though; the scaling and filters are, well, not great to be honest. And while I understand their pitch for adding the "Library" feature recently, i think it only serves to drive FOMO, especially combined with the fact that cartridges drop out of production with them all the time. Also, while they're got some really good stuff, even an occasional system seller like Duke Nukem Collection 1, they really need to work towards getting more well known properties. Some casual gamers are never going to be interested if they're never able to get Namco back on board along with Capcom (in the form of cartridges anyway), Konami, SNK and some other big mainstays. Honestly that fact alone is what pushes me to collect for my Super Famicom for my kid instead of this more. Otherwise, the stuff of the software emulation on this vs. on other sources like RetroArch vs. FPGA/hardware-based emulation going on in the comments is something I don't really care too much about. I play primarily on MiSTer (on a CRT alike) but things like this are still cool. When it comes down to it, more choices like this are always a good thing and if it doesn't do it for a person then fine. Play games how you want
I agree!!! I'm obviously new to the whole Evercade ecosystem, but I'm looking forward to learning more about it. I wish someone would make a MiSter that had a disc drive and cartridge ports. I would pay an insane amount of money for one
Nobody wants to deal with input lag, nobody wants to deal with (software) emulation errors, such as stretched out images (incorrect aspect ratio, distorted, even when you select "pixel perfect") and shimmering (the cousin to screen tearing). Some games run well enough on some (Evercade) hardware, _SOME DON'T._ I am simultaneously Evercade's biggets fan and harshest critic.
I understand.... But it's $100. Half of that cost is probably the controller. Let me have some more time with it. Let me ease into it. Trust me, I'm not going to sugarcoat my experience.
It is absolutely true that Evercade provides good value for money when compared to the competition, under many different headings. It is also true that two of the consoles I purchased from them had manufacturing errors (broken hardware) and bricked. Two. They make a lot of errors in both the hardware and the software. Consumers / viewers need a lot of warnings before making a compromise with this company. Still, I'd rather own an Evercade than a Sega Astro City Mini, for example (value for money, etc.).
At this point in time, I'll take software emulation over FPGA. The software is way more mature and feature sets and aesthetics are all WAY superior, and if you're using a good multi-threaded SBC running at 2-ish Ghz with an analog video out at native res, you're not getting lag or shimmer or stretching on a CRT with composite video. A pi3 or better can render a frame of video, process input, and waste a billion cycles waiting for the next 60th of a second to roll around... The issue with something like the Evercade or the mini systems is that they're putting in the absolute cheapest SOC they can and the experience always suffers. Buy your own hardware, configure your own software, don't use HDMI - and I guarantee you won't be able to tell the difference.
@@TheWarmotorsadly not all the issues with emulation are hardware related. A bug or missing feature in the emulation will be there till a Dev fixes it.
@@longtom6909 If we're talking about 8-32bit emulation, those are open-source code bases that have been around since the 90's. You can report a bug to github today, they're still being actively developed. The actual hardware didn't have that kind of dev time or human resources behind it. In 2024, a mature emulator is going to have fewer bugs than the actual hardware. I'm sorry friend, I appreciate that you took the time to talk to me but (unless you're talking about PS2 era and beyond) your point doesn't have any basis in logical reality.
Thanks! Ever since the undertaker threw me off that cage, things have been different 🤣 Also, you should check out my main channel (RNG Gamer). This is my "goof off" channel
The evercade and blaze....jeez, Where to begin? Its problems after problems with this product and company. Carts that wipe themselves, Flippant and vague responses from customer service, Hardware issues aplenty......the list is long and I REALLY wish i didn't bother
I had the original vs and sold it. I didn't see the need for it when other companies like My Arcade and Retrogames Ltd does really good plug and plays styled really nice. Ime not knocking it, it's great for the collectors, i still have nearly all my carts that i use on their Hyper Mega Tech handheld and may get Evercade bar top arcade to play them on. At the end of the day it's a case of personal preference and my preferences have changed alot because their is so much great stuff in the way of retro to use.
With the right software and hardware, you can emulate without lag or video issues. I'm currently using a Pi3b+ with wired 8bitdo SN30 pro controllers, analog video out to a 21" CRT in my sitting room. I have a huge set of shelves that display my classic games and systems from NES to Dreamcast, but hooking them up is a hassle and I've gotten used to universal save states. My ROM collections are complete, and I'm confident that even seasoned gamers would not be able to detect the difference from the real thing.
@@RNGGaming-nv6zi No worries my dude! I dig your content, BTW. I build and program industrial automation systems all day, so playing with alternative operating systems and interesting computing platforms is something that I do in my own time to decompress. It is a time investment to be sure, getting everything set up correctly rarely if ever happens out of the box. I'd be happy share any software or experience with you, if you felt so inclined - either way keep making content and we'll keep watching!
@TheWarmotor thanks! Your job sounds really demanding. I don't envy you 🤣 If you haven't already, you should check out my main channel (RNG Gamer). Things are more put together over there!
Emulation damn near only way to go.I got more room,1000,s of games.Most run perfect especially with fpga now.I do like pyshical but one day someone could rob you,it break,or get ruined.Always backup(aka download your games)
Im enjoying evercade . Think they just done firmware update to implement autfire and sure u can do button re mapping but u do by game i think not by default
If it does not find any WIFI, you have to go in the settings and do a factory reset. Out of the box, I had to do that. I am sad that after the latest update, the turbo/autofire is still not working. Also I plugged 3 controllers (all working on the evercade) and I cannot play 2 player games and I don't know why or how??
@@RNGGaming-nv6zi Just don't choose any WIFI I guess. Don't know about that. It is very minimalist, if you don't choose any wifi, it will probably turn it off or just not send any signals.
What is wrong with this company? How can you ship power cords that don't provide enough power? Did the Super Nintendo ship with a power cord that didn't provide enough power? No sir it did not!
Just buy an FPGA Console that does Hardware emulation instead of wasting money on software emulation hardware. The lag, delays and glitches associated with emulation just plain suck. FPGA Hardware emulation isn't always perfect because the Cores need development but once they're properly developed, they are as close to perfect as you'll ever get without using original hardware.
I don't really need any consoles... I already have everything. I was just trying out something new. Frankly, the emulator purists are so adamant about everything they say, it scares a lot of collectors away. What if I said to you, "just go out and buy $100k worth of consoles and games? You're squandering potential equity earnings by wasting your time with emulation. "
@@RNGGaming-nv6zi Thanks for agreeing. An Analogue Pocket Handheld sporting a beautiful screen will nearly perfectly Hardware Emulate anything from the 16-bit era and down for $230 + shipping. The Mister Clone is around $200 to $300 and will hardware emulate everything from N64 Down on your TV or computer screen. Mister can do the same for around $500. To play all the Retro Hardware like the above-mentioned hardware you'll need $1,000+ in Emulation consoles and they won't run the games close to perfect the way the above-mentioned FPGA Hardware would.
I want to get a MiSter one day. But I hate...hate...hate screwing around with settings, and troubleshooting, and all of that stuff. My experience with emulators was a decade ago... and it was a nightmare
