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Eversolo DMP A8 : Is this the end for other streamers? 

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Mark talks about the new Eversolo DMP-A8 Pre/streamer and asks, should the competition be worried?
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@scottzahn3298
@scottzahn3298 8 месяцев назад
Looking forward to the upcoming review
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Hi Scott and thank you for the comment. Yeah, we are looking forward to putting it through its paces to see where it lands! Cheers, Mark :)
@john9291
@john9291 8 месяцев назад
I currently stream Spotify from my Android phone to a Chromecast that is plugged into my TV via HDMI. The optical digital out from the TV goes into my Arcam DAC and the analogue outs from the DAC go into my amplifier. Will the DMP A8 make Spotify sound any better ? In addition I like the flexibility that I can cast from any of the following apps on my phone; SoundCloud, BBC Radio and VLC Media Player, not sure you can do that with DMP A8?
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Hi John, it should be a significant difference, you will most likely find connecting your TV too will improve the sound of that also. Feel free to message me directly if I can help further - mark@eliteaudiouk.com . Cheers, Mark :)
@kofitheakan9328
@kofitheakan9328 8 месяцев назад
Man im still saving for the Master Edition now this..oh well im saving for this
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning and thank you for your comment. It will be interesting to see how they compare :) Cheers, Mark
@johnh539
@johnh539 4 месяца назад
yup😮‍💨
@hexen0076
@hexen0076 7 месяцев назад
I have question in regards to choosing A6 over A8, my current setup is Audiolab 6000n and recently aquired Denafrips Ares 2 with upgraded 12th firmware . Buying the A6 would be big upgrade over Audiolab 6000n streamer
@loxxrider
@loxxrider 8 месяцев назад
Hello, is it possible to apply different DSP settings to the RCAs vs the XLRs? This would be a great feature for biamping or for subwoofer integration.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning. As far as I know, you cannot split the DSP, however you can use both connections at the same time, for either bi-amping or with a subwoofer. Cheers, Mark :)
@loxxrider
@loxxrider 8 месяцев назад
@@EliteAudioUK understood, thank you!
@lislotus
@lislotus 8 месяцев назад
Could I record the Analog Input pair (L/R) with a computer using USB Digital Output? I write some music and need a audio interface. I'd like to know if the SMP-8 could be my streamer, also my audio interface.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good afternoon and thank you for your message. We will need to test that when we get one. However, I don't think it will do an A>D conversion. Cheers, Mark :)
@TheRorij
@TheRorij 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for a great introduction to the product. You mentioned that the competition maybe should worry. I wonder what competition you mean outside the HIFI Rose? A bit above the HIFI Rose are (pricewise) the Auralic Altair G1.1, the Naïm ND5 XS2 and the Atoll ST300. Should they worry or is that going a step to far?
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning. Many thanks for the feedback, its really appreciated. I think it will be interesting comparing to a number of different streamers. From our previous blind testing, it seems there is no magic bullet. Maybe the A8 might be, but thats pure speculation :) Cheers, Mark
@szatixx
@szatixx 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for the quick tour on the product details. Did I understood correctly, that the A8 wont be able to drive its XLR and RCA output at the same time? Is it true even in the case if the built in streamer is in use? The reason of my question is that I would like to connect the power amp on the XLR and the subwoofer on the RCA.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning and thank you for the comments. Yes, you can select the outputs in 3 different ways as below : RCA on its own XLR on its own RCA and XLR together Hope that helps :) Cheers Mark
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
It should work exactly like that :)
@Ali_ReBORN
@Ali_ReBORN 7 месяцев назад
Great insights! Thank you sir! I wonder if i should consider this for my Hegel H390 integrated amp for the network transport as i love the DAC in the H390. Would you recommend that? Appreciate your thoughts 🙏🏼
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 6 месяцев назад
Good afternoon and thank you very much for your comments. I would without hesitation buy one. Frankly there is nothing to touch it right now. The new DAC in the A8 is incredible. Cheers, Mark :)
@Ali_ReBORN
@Ali_ReBORN 6 месяцев назад
@@EliteAudioUK thank you, have a great year ❤️🙏🏼
@userhwoarang
@userhwoarang 8 месяцев назад
I love my DMP-6 ME! But I miss a analog Input and the R2R Volume Control. Because I use the Eversolo direkt to my Actives.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
The new A8 should fix that for you. We are looking forward to hearing what it can do :) Cheers, Mark
@bmk1010
@bmk1010 8 месяцев назад
Will a TV power the A8 on/off via its HDMI ARC input ? Thanks !
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning, thanks for the message. Thats a good question and I honestly don't know, logic would suggest that it should! Cheers, Mark :)
@cristianciobanu341
@cristianciobanu341 8 месяцев назад
thanks for review! i just bought DMP6 and i think its the best product for the money
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Hi Cristian, thank you for the feedback, its appreciated. Great streamer and a good choice! Cheers, Mark :)
@Gadgetdad007
@Gadgetdad007 4 месяца назад
You need to take the A6 back to get the A8. 😂
@royphair9676
@royphair9676 8 месяцев назад
I've just purchased the master edition and it's more than enough for my system and the limitations of my room
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Hi Roy, great choice! Enjoy your new streamer. Cheers, Mark :)
@joaquinbarreto9398
@joaquinbarreto9398 8 месяцев назад
Question is if you are looking for a high performance DAC is the Gustard A26 or R26 be a much better option at less of a cost. I think ever solo went a little high on the price of this one. 1600-1800 would have been a sweet spot.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning Joaquin and thank you for the comments. I think we will reserve judgement on the pricing until we can compare it against some alternatives. Thanks again and look out for some blind testing in the future. Cheers, Mark :)
@mike_lowndes
@mike_lowndes 8 месяцев назад
So it’s now explicitly a pre-amp too? Can the volume be bypassed? There are some that say ’pre-amp is where the magic happens’…
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Hi Mike, as far as I know the R2R volume can be bypassed to a fixed output. That said, as its analogue, setting it at full volume should have the same effect. Cheers, Mark :)
@motuknight5569
@motuknight5569 8 месяцев назад
Nice streamer! I currently have a Lumin U2 mini with the Leedh Processing digital volume control which is advertised as lossless. 👍 Analog volume is still the full proof way however! 😎
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning and thank you for the comment. The U2 is a great streamer. I have yet to hear a digital volume control that can compete with analogue but the U2 does a great job :) Cheers, Mark
@therollerkid
@therollerkid 8 месяцев назад
Hi, do you think that the AKM chip will also bring in a warmer sound when used as a streamer only via usb or i2s? As I find my current eversolo A6 (standard) to be a bit bright and thin. Thinking of upgrading to the A8 when it comes out if it will sound warmer and with a fuller tonality.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning and thank you for the question - its an interesting one. My gut feel based on experience of the AKM sound is that I expect it to be warmer (but not less detailed). I think its a great move by Eversolo, but until we get the chance to compare, its pure speculation :) As soon as we have one, we will be presenting a new video on the A8 :) , Cheers, Mark
@goodsound4756
@goodsound4756 8 месяцев назад
There must be some kind of misunderstanding here. The internal DAC chip (AKM or Sabre) hast *no* impact when you use the A6/A8 as a streamer only with an external DAC. However, better oscillators may be beneficial (Master Edition), depending on how good your external DAC might be.
@therollerkid
@therollerkid 8 месяцев назад
@@goodsound4756 i only care about thr sound sigature of the streamer. The a6 is bright and i don't like it. Thr external dac is a rather expensive rockna wavelight, connected via usb. So there is no impact on the sound as i am not using the clock of the a6/a8.
@goodsound4756
@goodsound4756 8 месяцев назад
Then you already gave the answer yourself I have an A6 (bought for the Screen), feeding via USB my DAC from MSB. However the MSB has a streamer module as well and I slightly prefer that. So I use both units simultaneously as a Roon Endpoint. The A6 only for the display while MSB does all the audio stuff itself.😊
@therollerkid
@therollerkid 8 месяцев назад
@@goodsound4756 Not really. There must be something to do with the chip that transports the data towards the dac. So I am hoping that the A8 just as a transport will sound warmer. Am I wrong in thinking that? Will it sound the same as thr A6? Again only as a transport.
@joenovak6393
@joenovak6393 8 месяцев назад
These guys are listening to its base so let's see how it stacks up against the Big Boys. Look forward to your upcoming review.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning and thank you for the comments. It will be really fascinating to see how it compares to some more expensive opposition ! Cheers, Mark :)
@dieterwallach4889
@dieterwallach4889 7 месяцев назад
I wonder how it compares to older high-end streamers like the Linn Akkurate DS Katalyst?
@rogerhuston8287
@rogerhuston8287 8 месяцев назад
I've heard of R2R DACs, but not an R2R pre.
@IAmThankfulToday
@IAmThankfulToday 8 месяцев назад
Not to nitpick but this is not full sized per specs - Full size ~440mm (17.3 inches). This is 388mm (15.2inches).
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
You are absolutely correct. :) Appreciate the feedback. Cheers, Mark
@davebass7611
@davebass7611 8 месяцев назад
Can you do a comparison test against the Audiolab9000n
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning Dave. We are planning to do some in depth testing when we get our hands on the A8, so keeo an eye out for that in our future videos. Cheers, Mark :)
@RacingAnt
@RacingAnt 8 месяцев назад
No separate subwoofer out 😢 That seems like a bit of a missed opportunity. But, with the R2R volume control, I guess it would be hard to engineer - you'd need a 4 channel DAC, AND matching pre-amp stage.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning, you can use one of the analogue outputs for a sub and the other for the power amplifier (both can be active at the same time). Hope that helps. Cheers, Mark :)
@RacingAnt
@RacingAnt 8 месяцев назад
@@EliteAudioUK thanks for the reply. However, that's not really what I'm after. Ideally, I'd apply a high pass filter to the main speaker outputs, as this can substantially reduce distortion, and increase maximum SPL. This isn't achievable if the same signal is being fed to both sets of outputs.
@harrydavidson5014
@harrydavidson5014 8 месяцев назад
As a vinyl guy in my 60's you completely lost me, however, I am wondering what the model of speakers are that are sitting next to you. Thanks 😁👍🍻
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning Harry and thank you for your comments. The speakers are the JBL L100 'Black Edition' , which are the new mkII is a special finish. They retail at £5500, but the pair in the video can be bought for only £2900. I owned the previous 75th anniversary edition pair and loved them. Cheers, Mark :)
@johan5660
@johan5660 8 месяцев назад
Waiting for your blind test result on A6 master vs A8
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Hi Johan, thanks for the comment. We are very interested in seeing how they compare! Cheers, Mark :)
@joaquinbarreto9398
@joaquinbarreto9398 8 месяцев назад
I need a crash course on this. So this can act as a Preamp,Streamer and Dac so all you need is an amp and you’re good to go?? Problem is nobody ever really talks about how good the preamp is on these things. For example can it come close to the performance of a good integrated like a Yamaha AS1200 or Musical Fidelity M5si or with the preamp section of those integrateds be on a completely different level. Thx for the input.
@fizywig
@fizywig 8 месяцев назад
Only the streamer circuit is high end of the A8, rest is usual fare of cheap streamers including pre-amp and dac.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Hi again Joaquin, what we intend to do is compare it using its internal pre and then compare it to an analogue pre and see how good the internal one is. Obviously at this price, there is a limit to how good it can be, so it will be interesting to see where it lands. Cheers, Mark :)
@anmic3590
@anmic3590 8 месяцев назад
Hi! I have a node x running through the fiio k9 by coax. Then Pioneer c73 preamp and the Pioneer m73 power amp. Focal Aria 948 and the ava sb-1000pro. I was wondering if the A8 (or even the A6 standard with a source upgrade) will sound way better. Thank you!
@gjhunter9326
@gjhunter9326 7 месяцев назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eROJE6HQbtc.html This reviewer does, he comments about the sound as a streamer, a DAC and a preamp. You might want to give his review a watch.
@bubbleone6526
@bubbleone6526 8 месяцев назад
I just pre ordered.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning and thanks for the comment. Smart move I think :) Cheers, Mark
@mfisher702
@mfisher702 8 месяцев назад
Just pre ordered in the US.
@patrickmccrank8414
@patrickmccrank8414 8 месяцев назад
Will there be a master edition??
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Mmmmm, they have not said anything and I'm unsure if they will :) Anything is possible though! Cheers, Mark
@JustBrowsing777
@JustBrowsing777 8 месяцев назад
Aargh I just bought the A6 master edition. The A8 is what I really really want 😢 The A6 master was already a bit of a stretch price wise but...
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
The A6 Master Edition is a brilliant device anyway, so I would be happy with what you already have :) Cheers, Mark
@JustBrowsing777
@JustBrowsing777 8 месяцев назад
@EliteAudioUK Thanks for doing what you can to cheer me up 😄 Like you mentioned there, I prefer the purist way of no tone controls generally speaking, but there are scenarios where I would like to give my setup a tad or warmth/softness. There are other features/specs that make the A8 seem like the endgame streamer for someone like me. Well well, I shall enjoy my A6, it's a wonderful device!
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Very true, tone controls are a Marmite feature for most people :) Enjoy your A6, great choice there :)
@SkiBumMSP
@SkiBumMSP 8 месяцев назад
Damn! Barely got my A6 Master Edition broken in, and they have to go and drop the A8. From my own experience, I found I actually preferred the sound of the AKM DACs. My Pioneer Elite N-50 had the AKM AK4480 DAC in it and I really liked the sound of it. Still upset the damn thing died on me. Now, don't get me wrong, the A6 Master Edition is a phenomenal sounding unit, but damn, would love to have those AKM DACs and had this A8 unit been available, I would've gotten that instead of the A6 Master Edition, just based on what I saw and heard on this video. Of course, I will be interested in seeing/hearing a review of this new A8 when it becomes available. Most likely, I'll stick with my A6 Master Edition, but still always cool seeing what the "next big thing" is. Well, in this business, if you kept waiting for the "next thing", you will be waiting forever. At the time I bought the A6 Master Edition, it was looking exactly like what I wanted in replacing that N-50, so I treated myself to a nice early birthday present!
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning and thank you for your comments and feedback - I really understand the AKM thing as I said in the video. That said, your ME A6 is brilliant and fantastic value for money too :) Cheers, Mark
@SkiBumMSP
@SkiBumMSP 8 месяцев назад
@@EliteAudioUK I am certainly enjoying my A6 Master Edition and plan on keeping it for quite awhile. I just upgraded it to the latest software version, and they added a lot of nice features, such as now having the choice to display a spectrum analyzer instead of the VU meters. The funny thing is , shortly after I got my A6 ME, I actually e-mailed Eversolo and requested if it was possible to also have a spectrum analyzer as well as the VU meters, along with pointing out a few small bugs and other niggles that I encountered. Imagine my surprise when I upgraded my unit and saw they actually friggan implemented that! I can't imagine that I am the only one that desired that feature. I had to reply back to let them know just how awesome that was to see that! They obviously listen to feedback! As an aside, they were really quick in replying to my e-mails, sometimes within hours. In fact, speaking of listening to feeback, it seems quite a few of the features on this new A8 has to be directly the result of feedback, such as the inclusion of HDMI ARC jack, as well as the analog input.
@Robbo-eh3wb
@Robbo-eh3wb 8 месяцев назад
Happy Birthday Skibum
@peterandersson6762
@peterandersson6762 8 месяцев назад
Hi! Are you sure that the A8 supports MQA? Mvh/Peter from Sweden. I just bought the a6 master edision, so i will send it back and get A8 if it supports MQA.
@fofocho71
@fofocho71 8 месяцев назад
Of course it supports MQA!
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Hi Peter, the specs say it does :) Cheers, Mark
@rogerhuston8287
@rogerhuston8287 8 месяцев назад
I love it when people put words into audiophile mouths that aren't there. Many people run corrections.
@LeoSavantt
@LeoSavantt 8 месяцев назад
The A8 is now a fair bit more expensive than iFi's Neo Stream, offering very similar features. For those using these units as a streamer with a stand alone DAC or using the internal DAC a sound comparison would be interesting.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Hi Leo, thanks for the comment. That would be an intersting comparison I think. :) Cheers, Mark
@alexpreusianer5812
@alexpreusianer5812 8 месяцев назад
Hello, I bought the Eversolo DMP6 Silver. Then came the master edition. Now comes the A8. I suspect that DSP effects are far from complete. In my DAW I can simulate tubes or transformers. I think this will be the next stage of evolution. The development continues, which benefits the listener. I still have hope that the HiRes quality will also improve. Unfortunately, the quality is often not that good. Especially with recordings from the 70s and 80s (digital remaster). I'm also looking forward to the comparison to competing products. (Google translation)
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Hi Alex and thank you for your comments. I agree there are quite a few compressed 70's and 80's recordings that really need re-mastering to get them to sound acceptable, there is a limit to what DSP can do! Cheers, Mark :)
@Audiodreamer192-24
@Audiodreamer192-24 8 месяцев назад
Eversolo is gaining acclaim quickly. Loves these things!👍🔈🎵🎵
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning and I agree, they are building some great, well thought out devices currently :) Cheers, Mark
@allandresner
@allandresner 8 месяцев назад
NAD, launching its M66 and falls on its face?
@allandresner
@allandresner 8 месяцев назад
BluOS is so limited and quickly becoming the blackberry. I’ll be very happy to see BluOS get serious but without Apple Music and more.. these Android based systems will win. NAD can do so much better.
@Mingchops
@Mingchops 8 месяцев назад
Depends if this A8 can support the ability to apply different DSP configs to the XLR's and RCA's, otherwise there's no way near the ability to integrate subs as well as what the M66 will provide. As someone looking at the M66 for a 2.2 setup, I'm more than hopeful the A8 will facilitate this, because it'll save a big chunk of money - time will tell!
@allandresner
@allandresner 8 месяцев назад
@@Mingchops I'm also looking at the M66 to go along with my M23... same boat
@fofocho71
@fofocho71 8 месяцев назад
Good luck with NAD and their software integration
@fualexander7798
@fualexander7798 8 месяцев назад
AKM chip set is only a matter of personal preference and more importantly system matching. For example, I am running a pair of Dynaudio Evoke 50 which like any other Dynaudios tend to lean ever so slightly warm, that leads me to believe the brighter ESS chips of the A6 might be a better fit for my own system. The other thing is once you get to almost the GBP 2K price point, personally I would look at the HiFi Rose RS 250 with its much larger screen and its superior build quality. You have to favour made in Korea over made in China at that point. As you know, another even more premium brand Aurender is also made in Korea. However, if you really want to compare ESS vs AKM chips, I would just get another SMSL DAC with AKM chips when I already have a SMSL DO 400 with the ESS 9093 chips as it would be a much cheaper exercise before you decide on a GBP 2K streamer. But, ultimately to me once you go above the A6 price point, in effect you will be leaving that EverSolo sweet spot.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning and thank you for your comments. Everything is always about personal preference and choice. It will be fascinating to see how the A8 compares. Looking forwards to getting our hands on one. Cheers, Mark :)
@ianorigbo7617
@ianorigbo7617 8 месяцев назад
Hum... DMP A8 Master Edition nxt?.. When does it end..😂
@fezile
@fezile 8 месяцев назад
I hope this means A6 prices will go down. 🙂
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Hi, and thanks for the comments. The existing A6 devices are very competitively priced, so a price increase is more likely than a reduction I think, but I guess, anything is possible :) Cheers, Mark
@unicornslayer6963
@unicornslayer6963 8 месяцев назад
The DMP A8 was likely produced way before the A6. The HI-FI industry is rotten
@joaquinbarreto9398
@joaquinbarreto9398 8 месяцев назад
I don’t think it was because AKM just real eased these chips recently.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Good morning and thank you for the comment. The A8 was designed after the A6 and all manufacturers have a road map of future releases. The A6 is at a different price point entirely and is great for what it costs. Cheers, Mark :)
@dusantomic9983
@dusantomic9983 8 месяцев назад
Still no headphones socket. That's a show stopper for me!
@vagomaniac
@vagomaniac 8 месяцев назад
A competitive high end streamer must offer everything the a8 offers PLUS DIRAC LIVE stereo and BLUE OS . Get rid of the preamplifier, the dac, the screen. Lower price with better performance. That’s the winner
@itk2493
@itk2493 8 месяцев назад
😂The absolute shilling of this brand🤣😂
@balooo2863
@balooo2863 8 месяцев назад
As dealer that reps the Eversolo brand I think it’s their job to promote the product at least I know going in what the motivations are as opposed to other RU-vidrs that receive the product for free and hype garbage.
@itk2493
@itk2493 8 месяцев назад
@@balooo2863 This years emperors new clothes, take away the screen and no one would give it a second thought. In 24 months time it will be who are Eversolo and some other brand comes along and another quick buck is to made.
@RacingAnt
@RacingAnt 8 месяцев назад
Meh. They're a retailer. Take everything they push (including the blind listening tests) with the proverbial pinch of salt. Still interesting and useful videos. Listen to what he's saying. Demo the gear. Trust your ears. Buy what YOU like. Ignore everyone else's opinions. That is great advice.
@earl62
@earl62 8 месяцев назад
Another anti-climax in the wings.
@Zoomerland
@Zoomerland 8 месяцев назад
no mqa
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
The A8 is indeed MQA equipped! Cheers, Mark :)
@AlexReusch
@AlexReusch 8 месяцев назад
I don't want a streamer with a touch display showing album art. In the world of Smartphone/Tablet controllers, this is unnecessary. Also, I'd like to separate streamer and DAC.
@EliteAudioUK
@EliteAudioUK 8 месяцев назад
Hi Alex, thanks for the comments. I'd say thats the beauty of HiFi, there is something for everyone. :) Cheers, Mark
@astra004
@astra004 8 месяцев назад
Absolutely right. The should spare the display and integrate a ssd.
@RacingAnt
@RacingAnt 8 месяцев назад
Then find something that has the features you want 🤷 Not everyone wants the same thing. That's what's great about a diverse market.
@jrjacobsil
@jrjacobsil 8 месяцев назад
As soon as an audiophile uses the word "analytical" all credibility is lost.
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