@@hayorge27 well Weapon X had mutants working for it, and Apocalypse had Mister Sinister working for him so yes (yes Sinister is usually considered a mutate but current version is mutant and he was working for one so it counts)
Used to own the hardcopy weapon X novel and holy shit that was one of the greatest books I've read. Loved how it tells the story about how Logan was experimented on (i.e. tortured) and due to the horrible trauma/pain through his memory tells a story about a mission he's given through alpha-flight (Canadian special forces I think) into North Korea! I absolutely LOVED that book, and it definitely doesn't spare the reader from the gory details of the Weapon-X process either.
And also the cuckoo name Mindee rhymes with Cindy/windy/Hindi. Byrne as brine seems like a transposition of letters similar to dyslexia, but I wonder if “mined-ee” is due to the differences in regional dialect.
7:00- Now that’s how you bring Wolverine into the MCU. He’s an agent with an organization trying to keep mutants a secret but the secret gets out, causing the man behind the organization “Professor X” to have to form the X-men to protect the mutants on the now leaked documents.
Weapon H can also transform into different Hulks like Red Hulk, Red Hulk Harpy, Leader H and maybe many more hulk forms. You can read it in Savage Avengers 2022 comic.
... that's a thing? Really? Cause.. umm, that's about the dumbest, child like idea employed in comics if it is. Like something me and my cousin would've "invented" about almost three decades ago. I'm 34.
@@Draliseth I mean, it's dumb but then again Banner had multiple Hulk forms and it's comic books, so yeah, I can handle that level of stupid. The actual brain dead part that I cannot believe made it past an editor is what the hell happens to his adamantium skeleton when he transforms? His Hulk claws alone would be bigger than his entire human arm. According to the wiki, there is no real answer but it's "theorized nanotechnology reverse engineered from Lady Deathstrike could make this possible." I googled it just to find the answer to that question, and it made me so sad. Four year old you would have done so much better. It's literally "Nuh-uh, I have an anti-bullet invincibility shield so you can't hurt me" the character. As if we didn't have enough of those.
@@Draliseth they have been doing that since they created H. It was supposedly given a bunch of mutant abilities (not just wolverines) like probability manipulation. Though considering hulk already had every ability Logan had except the claws (and his healing factor is actually better than Logan's) I never understood why they bothered with the whole combined DNA thing.
I was a kid when the Marvel Comics Presents came out containing weapon X. Each issue had 3 different comics inside, I got each specifically for weapon X. My favorite part of the series was how Logan hunted the doctor through the compound cutting off each hand then ultimately ending him. It was like a horror movie.
Originally, The Weapon X program was not a U.S. secret program, it was a Canadian secret program that wanted to make supersoldiers ala Captain America using mutants.
@@Eyembooks Me too, cause originally it was explained that each country was doing their own thing to either protect their borders or integrity in case that they were invaded by other forces themselves, whether they'd be other countries or alien attacks, or the supervillains. But there comes some sort of mega patriotic "writer" to make the "almighty 'Murica" do everything, smfh. It makes everything such an overused stupid cliché.
@@EternalRoman there's two sides to that.. "Let's make weapon x program american because... it's believable that they would do this" Or "Let's make weapon x program american because we need the heros to be american made" Neither are exactly uh.. good. So I don't think it's as simple as you lay it out lol Wolverine will always be Canadian to me, and thus the reasoning for his adamantium skeleton.
@@NateCreed07 In the long run, possibly and like it was mentioned, now it was a supposed American project altogether. Thing about comics I guess is that no matter what was established before there are always retcons.
I remember originally Wolverine was Weapon X because he was the 10th one they made. I guess they rebooted the series and changed "Weapon X" from being Wolverine to being the entire program that created Wolverine.
@@sussudioscott9383 yeah that is the Canon I remember. But they changed it to what he is seeing in the video. My sure when they rebooted it and changed the Canon. I knew I was right though you just held me confirm I was right. Thank you for backing up my memory from when I was a kid. I owned every X-men and Wolverine comic book there was and what were talking about is what I remember. Wolverine was the 10th one hence Weapon X and at that point in time he had spikes on his flesh too
Actually X-23 first appearance was in one of the X-Men cartoon episodes. She is the only character that did not originate in a comic book. Be safe and be 😎
Actually her origin started in the comics she was a pro then they rebooted her story to be more family friendly I think you're thinking of marrow maybe I'm wrong I stopped watching but still followed X-Men cartoons after the mid 90s series
I would love if Guardians 3 introduced Weapon II and have him fight Rocket Raccoon! Just tweak it so that the High Evolutionary restarted the Super Soldier program and made Weapon II and the Super Soldier Animals also mentioned in this vid.
Wolverine was always my favourite comic book character (Marvel, DC etc) because of his adamantium claws and as I got older I found out I was in a majority. There must be something about those claws that ignite a primal instinct in people who think they’re (like Wolverine) are badass!
@@meatbyproductsI think that’s the appeal of the character. He isn’t bogged down by complicated love stories or contrived plot points. Most of the time he’s just this one note killing machine on a mission to do some badass shit. That’s also why characters like doom guy, who despite not speaking a single sentence in his games is so well liked. Sometimes simplicity is key, especially in a comic book story.
I vaguely remember reading of a Weapon called “Weapon Y” who died from accidental poisoning From the armor they wore after a battle with Logan. As they were on their deathbed He told Logan something about the X program causing Logan to cry thinking more of his past was lost. Can someone please tell me what this was From? It wasn’t Cyber…
There’s a character called Weapon Y that’s a New Warriors bad guy, and is basically a meta joke character. His history is that he attacks Fabian Nicieza (a real-world comic writer) because he doesn’t like the way he wrote his embarrassing defeat in his first appearance. But no Weapon Y that fought Wolverine.
@@IraEskins Darn, Well this weapon Had a Military Green Base, a thick Black stripe down the middle, cable muscle coating the inner parts of his armor and Blue eyes. That’s the most I remember.
Yeah. That was another thing I always wondered about Laura (X23). If she had adamantium implanted as a little girl, how would she be able to grow to adulthood?
In the 616 universe (which I assume you are basing this all on) Steve Rogers isn't considered superhuman but peak human. Also, his shield isn't vibranium but a mix of than and proto-adamantium.
this is the only time I've seen anyone mention Brute Force. the original Brute Force had tech closer to Cybertronians as they had altmodes that could transform into a Vehicle mode.
You failed to mention Cage's breakout from prison and, years later, his subsequent re-powering at the hands of his arch-rival Bushmaster 1 and his son Bushmaster 2. This re-powering made him even more invulnerable and robust, including his jacket (becoming invulnerable)-resulting in him becoming more powerful than any other test subject (him included) had ever been before, making him genuinely superhuman. Still, he has a weakness to electricity (ionizing radiation) which was a crucial component in the Power Man process. Although he can concentrate and become resistant to electricity over time, it is still excruciating, more so than any other trauma he has experienced. His abilities before the Power Man process were already formable. He possessed Olympic-level strength and near-peak human reflexes. After the procedure, he gained low-tier enhanced human strength and actual peak human reflexes, so much so that he could (with some effort) beat his best friend Danny Rand [Iron Fist] on more than one occasion. The Power Man process has been the most overlooked, prosperous, and openly sought-after success story in the Weapon Plus program. Unlike other test subjects and experiments, the operation succeeded where others were too costly, unpredictable, and uncontrollable. After his exposure to the 1st and 2nd process, Cage not only retained his mental faculties but may be capable of further enhancements. This, coupled with his ability to successfully procreate 'normal' but potentially powerful offspring without outside interference-not to mention the process's ability to transform inanimate objects (like Cages' jacket) into near-invulnerable objects make it the most burgeoning and economically viable result in the Weapon Plus program, to date. One aspect of the Power Man re-powering storyline has never been addressed. The Over Power or Powering Out that resulted in the eventual deaths of the 'successful' test subjects. This 2nd iteration of the Power Man process wasn't as successful as the first, although one can say the first was an accident. In the experiment's 2nd phase, test subjects were exposed to the Power Man process and gained superhuman strength and durability, slightly higher than Cage's abilities at the time. Still, in doing so, these subjects would eventually experience a total cellular breakdown if they regularly used their abilities to their utmost. It wasn't within their power to stop using their newfound enhanced human skills even if they tried because the process acted like a virus, slowly and radically destroying their body's tissues at a cellular level. In the throws of this powering down, their bodies temporarily gained even more durability and strength to near supernatural levels. But when this happened, they also lost the ability to process sensory stimuli and form cognitive thoughts. In other words, they became drunk with 'power', and their bodies literally and figuratively began to disintegrate into a greenish crystalline powder. These painful and horrific deaths could not be delayed or cured. It has been speculated since the Cage Comic Series run that Luke may either succumb to the same powering down that affected the test subjects in the 2nd iteration of the Power Man process, or he may have the ability (whether he's aware of it or not) to cause the same powering down (and disintegration) he witnessed so many years before. If he could consciously inflict the powering down process, he could potentially "power out" any living being or inanimate object. But it should be noted that if he has this ability [curse] lying dormant within his cells and can't stop the process from harming others, he could unwittingly harm his friends and family. If that doesn't give you pause, what if his offspring possess the powering-down ability? Such 'power' in the hands of a toddler or an immature child would be akin to giving a baby a grenade. A nuclear grenade!!! What if this power could destroy cabonadium, anti-metal [Savage Land vibranium], Wakandan vibramium, and adamantium?! Only time will tell... But as we have seen in previous issues, Mr. Sinister may have other plans because he has been 'watching'.
I Have to say the Worst weapon x experiment was the one that department H Did to Wade Wilson I mean even subjecting him to wolverine's genome and getting that much tissue scarred scares me
@@thalmoragent9344 that’s because the healing factor is constantly battling his cancer which also has the healing factor, it doesn’t have time to deal with minor things like scarring…his body is constantly dying and regenerating. Sometimes the way he’s drawn makes it look less like scarring and more like a mass of tumours too
Um wolverine was practically immortal before the adamantium. Dude was already over 100 and still in his physical prime and without the adamantium his healing factor would be even better
@@nathanxxvii I'm seeing protocide from the ultimate universe taking an early version before cap but it wasn't the actual serum just what the serum was before being perfected
@@nathanxxvii I think that version was retconned. Originally Truth: Red, White & Black was supposed to take place outside of the main Marvel Universe but in Young Avengers, Isaiah's grandson, Patriot thought Isaiah came first too. But Isaiah was actually their attempt to recreate the process that made Steve Rogers after he disappeared in the ice. Which is proven by the fact that Steve became Cap in 1941 but Isaiah didn't gain his powers until 1942
Weapon H always confused me. After the bonding process adamantium is unbreakable. How did he always transform from normal to big while having a bonded skeleton.
Wow! Amazing stories! The origins of weapon x is a revelation I didn't know until now that the program has been around for a long long time even from almost the beginning and is a part if many characters that are not actually from the program..
not sure where you decided to draw the line what constitues a weapon x experiment... you mentioned Wade Wilson but he was absolutely a Weapon X experiment under the Department K offshoot, whch was still Weapon X. You listed Ajax on the list, under the same program... but no Deadpool.
Technically, X-23 made her debut in the animated series X-Men: Evolution in August 2003. I mean if you're gunna mention her appearance in Logan, you might as well mention that too.
I always thought Sabertooth never got the adimantium because be doesn't need it. His bones heal so fast a bone could shatter to splinters and heal 100% before he could say owe.
In the old school comics, one of the reasons Sabertooth hated Wolverine was because he went berserk and destroyed the Weapon X facility which prevented Sabertooth from getting the adamantium skeleton just like him. He felt screwed over that they made Wolverine more powerful than him when they could of been equals.
I know I'm nit picking but, the program was called weapons plus, wolverine was the 10th experiment hence the name weapon X where the X is the Roman numeral 10. Steve Roger's, A.K.A Captain America was weapon one. And so on.
Modern day retcon nonsense. Weapon X was a Canadian program used to experiment on mutants and had nothing to do with Captain America. I hate how comic books are always trying to rewrite the past and mix up storylines, making everything convoluted for no reason.
"Weapon X" is Wolverine/Logan/James Howlett, meaning he was X-10, or weapon number 10. Not the name of the program. The program was called Weapons Plus, aka The Super Soldier Program. The 2029 Logan clone/'daughter' Laura is/was called X-23, and X-24 was the male clones designation.
Little known or discussed matter but X-23 is basically an emortal child. Because of her mutant ability being activated as a child she now ages different and because she underwent the Adamantium bonding as a child her bones can't grow either so she is stuck as a child for a very long time and even when she does reach adulthood she will look older but will be stuck in the body of a kid.
I believe missed a few characters. Wild child being my favorite. There was also no mention of the weapon X program started out in Canada. Old cannon characters seemed to be left off this list.
I always found it unrealistic that injecting molten metal into the skeleton of Wolverine didn't just make a solid blobby lump of metal in the rough shape of a skeleton but with no joints in it.
The simple answer would be magnetic manipulation of the metal as it's being injected/applied. It would take a pretty serious program and equipment to manage it, but then again it is a comicbook world...
@@RoadHead62 Oh, absolutely. In a world where people can fire laser beams out of their eyes, walk through walls, suck the 'lifeforce' from someone, pause time with their mind and so on, getting some metal into the right shape isn't that high on the scale of 'unbelievable'
Yea, this never made sense to me. So many issues here. Wouldn't he just lock up from the metal covering his joints? Wouldn't the liquid metal burn thru his tendons and ligaments, disconnecting his muscles from his skeletal structure? How are his claws already shaped and sharpened to a razors edge? It would make more sense if they de-gloved sections of his body one at a time and plated his skeleton like that. Also, if his healing is so complete that he can survive getting ripped in half and regenerate from being completely incinerated down to his skeleton, why does he even need the adamantium?
If they were to bring weapon x into the mcu as a project still ongoing, it just wouldn’t make any sense anymore. With all of the sources or power, technologies, advanced materials, and serums available the government or shadow organizations with deep pockets and knowledge would easily be able to create super soldiers that could go toe to toe with thanos himself. Gravitonium can be infused into anyone granting them power over gravity and also the ability to absorb people and take their memories and powers if they have super powers. They have the centipede serum which at this point could be modified with even more powers, like Spider-Man’s radioactive spider, and the heart shaped herb from wakanda. Samples of blood can be taken from both Steve and hulk or she hulk to make the serum even more powerful rather than simply being modified with banners gamma research. So with just these sources they would be able to inject a modified centipede serum giving the person super strength, super regeneration powers, super senses, super agility, enhanced durability, and heat generation powers. With the super regeneration and healing powers vibranium can be put on their bones similar to wolverine, or they could even infuse them with gravitonium giving them even more power, or best of all both. With all of those things, and an advanced vibranium nano tech suit designed to work with the powers, the person would be a rival for even thanos. Just insanely powerful. Making the avengers pointless. People like Hawkeye.
23:00 Is Luke Cage really one of the most recognizable creatures in the Marvel universe? I know more about him from this video than everything else I've heard about him put together.
I Gotta admit, Weapon H is a Cool character, i just wish they had designed him a LITTLE Less of a Palate swap of Hulk, with Wolverine Claws. id have made him look more Caveman like, Personally.
I hate to be the one to bring real world science to a comic book… but.. lol…. Weapon H… adamantium bones… is there an in universe explanation for the addition and subtraction of adamantium during his transformation? All I can imagine is a 6 foot human skin and muscle string out over a 12 foot tall metal skeleton or a Hulk size body with an itty bitty human size metal skeleton hiding inside
I talked to learn something new about comics about the The Weapon X Plus. More with the X-Men Hoover's top Super Soldier programs cuz Wolverine was number 10. Super soldier to go under program the same way with Laura. I don't know if Sabertooth was one of them as a super soldier Under The Weapon X Program. But we have learned a little bit about Magneto. This powers are quite unstable with magnetism that's to understand why he control Wolverine without the metal within him.
I dont think I missed it, and its probably because his origin keeps changing, but I don't think you did a section on deadpool, you mentioned him in the ajax section, but not deadpool himself
originaly in the 90's cartoon sabratooth was gonna get the adamentium aswel but wolverine broke out and destroyed the facility before he could get it,later on in the comics sabretooth got the adamentium but lost it again like you said when apocalypse took it from him and gave it to wolverine who lost it because of magneto,again later on sabretooth got it again but i dont know annything beyond that.
That's blasphemous only barely mentioning Deadpool like they did in this video. Weapon XI deserves a little more attention than the passive mention in this clip
i totally forgot about that romulus story line 😂 also, the old lore as to why sabertooth wasnt given adamantium was because his healing factor was not as strong as wolverines.
