Every Chevy Bolt Is Getting A Free Battery Upgrade! We Range Test The Old 60kWh vs New 66kWh

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Ryan joins Out of Spec for the first time to compare his Chevrolet Bolt EV that had a new battery installed via the recall situation with one that hasn't had the recall service, driven by Max, and still has the old battery in a 70-MPH highway loop style range test. How much further will the new battery go? Will the old Bolt catch on fire? Find out in the video!
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@dennislyon5412 Год назад

At 77k miles on my original pack, mine went from 53.9 to 64.3 kwh usable - almost a 20% increase with the new battery. Gotta like that!

@FuncleChuck Год назад

I always choose my car reviewers based on who stretches their arms farthest apart in the introduction. Ryan seems legit.

@robertt1336 Год назад

Hahaha. That’s great

@SueC56 11 месяцев назад

😅

@FunEGallerE 10 месяцев назад

😂😂

@newscoulomb3705 Год назад

18:56 The new battery is actually ~15 lbs lighter than the original battery despite having 10% additional capacity,

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

Thanks for the clarification!

@aejhorst1 Год назад

In the Netherlands we get a 64 Kwh battery pack instead of the old 60 Kwh (gross) So 8% more range in theory...

@iMaxPatten Год назад

Super interesting! Gotta love new cell designs.

@AERONOOB 8 месяцев назад

My drivingstyle got me an extra 25ish kilometers of range with the new battery.

@neutrino78x 8 месяцев назад

just wait until solid state batteries are ready for prime time, that should be a significant jump....probably wouldn't be able to upgrade an old car to use that though 🙂

@phillyphil1513 Год назад

omg the "center exhaust" tips are hysterical, I love it. 🤣 btw that's a nod to Corvette enthusiasts, and is a beloved feature the faithful are raving about on the new 2023 Z06's that are being delivered to customers as we speak.

@traceelliot1360 9 месяцев назад

Is that a 3D sticker or actual exhaust tip pipes? Where can I get that for my bolt?

@wallacebell4311 Год назад

I charged my son’s 2020 Bolt too 100% two different times and both times the mid # was 285 miles of range and the max # was also 311 miles of range. Keep in mind that the car was advertised as having 259 miles of range. This is the original battery pack.

@AlexanderMaxham Год назад

That number depends on how you have driven. On my bolt, I rarely take it on the highway, so with the new battery I usually see over 300 when its fully charged. This is different from other EVs (I think mostly Tesla) that sticks with the EPA range rating.

@AlexanderMaxham Год назад

@TheMrDudiness it’s not. But believe whatever you want. I have a bolt, doesn’t sound like you do 🤷‍♂️

@AlexanderMaxham Год назад

@TheMrDudiness pretty obvious you have no idea what my original comment was even about. Talking about the GOM which adjusts its estimate of how far you can go on the remaining charge based on how you drive. It does change based on how you are driving, how much heat or ac you are using, the outside temperature and a few other things. Remember this test was done in cold weather so the batteries are going to go about the same distance. They should have done this in 65+ degree weather, aka perfect EV weather.

@newscoulomb3705 Год назад

18:50 There seems to be some issues with the BMS catching up to the new capacity, which is reflected in both the energy used and efficiency displays. I've been having a bear of a time resetting my BMS with the new battery, which is still reporting the identical capacity as the last test I did with the original battery.

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

I’ve had the battery for a few thousand miles, I’m not sure if the BMS will calibrate itself much further. Its pretty interesting that we both are having unexpected results from our energy efficiency and usage.

@phillyphil1513 Год назад

well stop screwing with it guys with the idea that you're "magically" going to fix it (or it will fix itself) and take it back to the dealer. everyone in the Auto Industry knows at this point this is a $1 Billion dollar WARRANTY recall.

@newscoulomb3705 Год назад

@@phillyphil1513 I already unplugged the 12 V battery for a couple of days, and that appears to have reset the system. I still have to confirm, but really, I'm not concerned that anything is wrong with it. I have far better range than before the recall. It's reported as efficiency rather than energy, but the range improvement is real.

@MRsLove999 Год назад

I have 2018 Ampera-e (original battery) with ~110k miles, was able to get 55.2kWh from 100til0%. Its nice to get comparisom with you guys, really apraciate it. 💪

@dimasalves7079 Год назад

Excellent video! Nice to see the difference between the two.

@donswier Год назад

Digging Ryan's exhaust 😊👍 Just needs more Bosozoku now.

@rubyfirefly2582 10 месяцев назад

Great test! Thanks for doing this.

@ericcindycrowder7482 Год назад

One of them has the new 66 kWh battery AND the Quad Tip Sports Exhaust!!!!!

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

+5 hp

@anthonyc8499 Год назад

That was a real fun and interesting test!

@seanrobin6573 Год назад

Absolutely Magnificent Review, Quite Entertaining

@john3Lee Год назад

Good review - thanks

@beautyofgrace3915 Год назад

Great video! Hope to get the bolt ev soon.

@ouch1011 Год назад

With my 2022 Bolt EUV (same battery as the replacement for the older Bolts) I was able to get 63.2kwh from 100% to 0% when the vehicle shuts down (with about 12k miles on it). Seems like the Bolt with the replacement battery still needs some more relearning of its battery capacity

@williamclark6466 6 месяцев назад

A great comparison. Thanks everyone!

@DiscoR53 Год назад

Kum & Go nice, is it next to an in and out?

@dereks4577 Год назад

The new battery Bolt looks to be in L one pedal driving and the old battery Bolt is in regular D with low regeneration.

@iMaxPatten Год назад

Yup, this might explain some efficiency loss, but I think very little on the highway. Stop and go was very rare on this test, we drove the same roads, and the Bolt has brake blending.

@wetzel82 Год назад

Bolts are crazy efficient. In summer in cali city driving gets you 320 miles of range pretty easily

@seanplace8192 Год назад

That's only with city driving. They're horrible on the highway due to poor aerodynamics. Once you get above 68mph, efficiency falls off a cliff.

@wetzel82 Год назад

@@seanplace8192 No Actually at 70mph (5mph exceeding our speed limit of 65) It gets about 220-230 miles of range. Which is still efficient. In city it gets 4- 4.7 miles per kWh in summer here and highway usually about 3.5 so it’s actually still very efficient..

@ab-tf5fl Год назад

@@wetzel82 If it's a perfect 70 degrees outside, with climate control off, you can do even better than that. Under perfect conditions, I've logged efficiencies as high as 6 mi/kWh with city driving, and 4-4.7 mi/kWh doing 60 mph on the highway (efficiency at 70 mph is a bit lower).

@wetzel82 Год назад

@@ab-tf5fl For sure! I run Ac even im winter at 65 because i’m always but it’s a sacraficing i’m willing to keep making lol

@Nebula1701 Год назад

Great Video!

@jacksonbangs6603 Год назад

Thanks for reviewing both the new and old Chevrolet Bolt EV batteries. I just recently took purchase of a used 2020 Chevrolet Bolt EV Premier on Black Friday. I hope to one of these days get the new 66 KWH battery pack myself.

@epcalderhead Год назад

Our 19 Bolt battery was replaced at 41,160 miles. I estimated we lost about 5-7% of capacity using EngineLink to measure the pack and the range test I ran right before I took it in for the replacement. The new pack read 62.18 kWh after pickup and jumped to 64.29 kWh a few days later. After about 5K miles of driving it was at 62.38 kWh. Now about a year later and 12K miles since replacement, we are at 61.21 kWh. Still a noticeable improvement in range compared to our original pack.

@iggyfan66 Год назад

I'm thinking of buying a used Bolt, do you recommend getting one?

@epcalderhead Год назад

@@iggyfan66 It depends on your use case. If the Bolt will be your only car and you need or want to make long trips, the answer might be no. I feel like the Bolt can handle trips in a 200-mile radius in our area if needed. The Bolt is my wife's daily driver and it's perfect for that use case. We have a Tesla Model 3 for longer trips. As a local/regional car at the right price it's a fantastic option.

@iggyfan66 Год назад

@@epcalderhead thanks Edward, we have a Mazda CX9 for long trips but my old Honda just literally broke at the sub frame. So I’m looking for a good second car. Our daughter lives about 75 miles away and my sister in law lives 130 miles away. The bolt seemed perfect, or a Hyundai Kona EV.

@epcalderhead Год назад

@@iggyfan66 The 130-mile trip would be testing the range of the Bolt, especially in cold weather. The Kona looks to have similar range as the Bolt. If you can charge at her house or have reliable fast charging on the route you would probably be fine. L1 charging is ~5 miles per hour so 8 hours to overnight is ideal. I'd let price/value dictate that purchase, but the Kona will charge a bit faster using DC fast charging over the Bolt. Good luck on the hunt!

@ghostingwo 6 месяцев назад

@@epcalderheadhey can I ask a question for work I drive 36 miles to and 36 miles back so I’ll be driving at least 78 miles a day will that be okay for a Chevy bolt? Also I’m worried about the battery and when it will have to be replaced, I don’t wanna go bankrupt cause it seems rlly expensive especially if the warranty has ended before that time. Do u know what people should do or what their options will be for when its time to replace the battery?

@ronjohnson4566 Год назад

Who came up with Kum and go? I think they need a new marketing dept

@troosimimimmi Год назад

it sounds like futurama joke and i quite like it hehe

@normt430 Год назад

"When I finally parked it(Bolt) at my home charging station, it had gone 322 miles on a single charge. Not bad for a car rated at 238 miles per charge. Even more impressive was the fact that I didn't really try very hard to get that many miles out of it. I spent plenty of time in traffic, which helped, but there were a few sections that I was moving along at 65-70 mph as well. No matter how you look at it, 322 miles out of a Bolt is pretty impressive." - Ed Hellwig Edmund's

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

Different routes, different temperatures, different traffic. There’s a ton of variables that go into total range. With good weather conditions, I’ve found I get around 220 miles at 70 mph.

@JamesKirk1988 Год назад

From the sound of the Edmund's review, he spent a lot of time in traffic, probably going 20-50MPH. EV's get way better efficiency at these speeds compared to a 70mph range test.

@normt430 Год назад

@@JamesKirk1988 20-30% over EPA is not uncommon. Just look at.thr comment section of every Bolt review.

@kqschwarz Год назад

Excellent job

@troyperry1231 Год назад

Ryan 👍 max 👍 nice job.

@rexlybrand6688 Год назад

Sometimes one Bolt was in “L” while the other was in “D”. I feel a difference, even when applying the accelerator, between two drive modes. This could account for some of the range results.

@warriorforestmonk 8 месяцев назад

Speaks to the question I just asked. I'm shopping the Bolt currently, trying to gauge its honest capabilities. I would probably always drive in L for one-foot regen battery performance, wondering if this makes a difference on highway driving. A 200mile range at 100% of battery use is not that impressive considering that Chevy rates it at 259miles, even considering external factors, imo. Curious to hear other's perspectives.

@timber8403 Год назад

The older bolt used 4% as opposed to 6% on the newer battery for climate settings despite having the ac on with the heat.

@sabrinatgooderetravel Год назад

How long/how many minutes does it take to charge the Bolt EUV up to 80, 90, or 100%? I need to know this information! Thanks

@chrislastovica4999 Год назад

On the Bolt with the old battery you where running both the heater and AC that will drain the battery fast as they are working against each other.

@FCA1975 Год назад

How about dropping one of those Ultium battery packs in my Bolt, Chevy? I would like to go back to being able to make a 500 mile trip in under 8 hours again.

@TheAdventureAuto Год назад

I thought the battery used for the recall were the same as the ones in the 2023 Bolts, but it seems like they aren't. I've seen 2023 Bolts with an estimate of over 400 miles of range. Crazy variances with these Bolts.

@thisislogout 5 месяцев назад

What is the year built on the two Bolts? Great video!

@JONMPG Год назад

Right now we live in a city just off of I-80 they have been working in the same section for the last 2 years.

@johnnyv5995 Год назад

I was expecting the new battery pack to get +20miles more and truly not the case. Guess the original battery(despite being in use for +20k miles) has held up well. I would like to get a new Bolt but we have +2year wait here in Montreal, Canada so I will be looking for a used one. Thanks Guys.

@tjwatson0403 Год назад

I have a Bolt. They're great cars. Winter hurts range though but if you do a double preheat then it'll be ok. Still, don't want to take long highway trips in winter with it

@PozzaPizz 10 месяцев назад

You can get bolts for 15k at auction houses, thats what I did and got a 2018 with 30k miles and new battery pack. After ev tax credit it'll cost me $11k which is absurd

@johnnyv5995 10 месяцев назад

@@PozzaPizz I'm in Canada, can you help me out?

@HowardStory Год назад

HELP!!. I can't find the link for the cat back exhaust.

@nroose Год назад

Very similar, except one has quad exhaust!

@slythecatproductions Год назад

Nice video...

@Matt-dx3wo Год назад

Good work fellas! I'm curious if Ryan has done any 100% to 0% drawdowns on his new pack prior to this test (BMS recalibration in mind). I definitely want to get a used Bolt once the prices settle.

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

Yes, the new battery has a few thousand miles on it. I’ve run it to zero twice before this

@MRsLove999 Год назад

@@ryankassel5691and result in kWh was the same?

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

@@MRsLove999 between 60-61 kWh previously

@BenjaminAlley-zf1ek Год назад

Only other side note, climate does affect your range attributed to the different sizes of the batteries. An optimal weather you would see a slightly bigger gap and range. Say 220 vs 230 or so.

@traceelliot1360 9 месяцев назад

What are the protective measures that GM is/has taken for the new batteries? Are they monitoring the health of the battery through onstar? Should I keep onstar?

@mattf3761 21 день назад

How many miles can be driven with the flashing bar

@clif9710 11 месяцев назад

At the end of the video one of the cars is asking if the driver wants to switch to "low power mode" But I thought all the juice was gone with nothing left to power the car. Is it because you had just plugged in to the charger and have a tiny amount of new juice that this prompt appeared?

@phillyphil1513 Год назад

Ryan/Max as someone else in the comments noticed (not that it makes much difference) but you guys forgot to mention what Model Year those 2 Bolts were...? 17, 18, or 19...? "Talk to me Goose..." (Tom Cruise/Maverick voice)

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

The new battery is a ‘17, the old battery is a ‘18, but there aren’t many differences between the two!

@JWY 9 месяцев назад

After 11,000 miles on a '23 Bolt and the range is not measurably decreased. Using 80% charge except for longer trips.

@BenjaminAlley-zf1ek Год назад

You're variance difference is a little due to software. The new battery pack puts back slightly more for degregation purposes than the old unit. Beside from that, the weight difference does affect it slightly.

@FinnishArmy Год назад

I guess my 2023 Bolt already has the 65 kwH battery

@mandem3426 10 месяцев назад

“Kum and go” is crazy

@artboymoy Год назад

The faux exhaust pipes kill me. :p

@UnnDunn Год назад

Oh Ryan. Those exhaust tips. 😩

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

It’s the best $15 I’ve ever spent

@Scotty_B123 Год назад

Bradley needs a swiffer

@flolou8496 7 месяцев назад

Does anyone know for sure how the battery warranty works under the recall battery rules? ( for example if say a 2019 Bolt LT has 50K odometer miles when the new battery is installed under the new recall rules): does the new battery come with a warranty only as good as the original odometer or does it get it's own warranty that is separate? which of course would be weird because battery's don't have built in odometers , so how could the new battery get a warranty time frame that exceeds the odometer miles? (unless the battery is just getting a standard new 8 year warranty regardless of the odometer miles, ???)

@catnaplappdx5001 6 месяцев назад

As I understand it, the battery warranty restarts at 100k/8 years. Now considering I saw somewhere that up to 40% degradation is considered normal, I don't know if it covers anything other than self conflagration.

@shithead4767 Год назад

Does the bolt do 70mph indicated and real 70mph?

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

Yes, it was checked with a gps speedometer

@shithead4767 Год назад

@@ryankassel5691 👍 great numbers for such a small car

@keithmcdonnell4485 Год назад

I think that the range driven was very much affected by speed driven towards the end of the test. The old battery pack car was driven slower, and driven down right to the "I ain't movin' no mo" point. If the new pack car was driven slower at the end of the highway portion of the test, and was driven to the ragged edge of capacity you would have gotten at least 1 more kWh out of it and 5 to 10 more miles. All Chevy range test are hampered by GM not giving detailed information on state of charge and remaining miles at low SOC. The only way to effectively test a GM product is by using an OBD2 dongle and torque pro software on an android phone or the equivalent software on an Apple phone.

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

Definitely, differences in driving speed at the end of the test have an effect. I had an OBD in the new battery, it indicted less than 0.7% until it bricked. There was maybe 1-2 miles and 0.3 kWh left, but it’s not really “usable” range. You need to nearly floor it just to go over 30, which isn’t good for the battery at low SOC. Around 13:45 is a similar point in the old battery (195.1 miles and 55.6 kWh). It seems like the new battery is still slightly less efficient

@a106glimmerman Год назад

It would help to know the model year of the cars

@iMaxPatten Год назад

2019 on Bradley’s and 2017 on Ryan’s. Both pre ‘21 facelift and should be mechanically identical aside from the battery service.

@a106glimmerman Год назад

@@iMaxPatten 2020 got the bigger battery hence why I asked. Actually the 19 has slightly updated software. Notice heat and AC are separate on the infotainment screen

@davidcosta3126 8 месяцев назад

great video! Pathetic range at 70 miles per hour and less no air con on less 200 miles! Then what how long to charge to 80% at DC charge?? Looks like I will be buying a KONA with the Turbo engine! I love in LA and could not even make it to VEGAS!

@warriorforestmonk 8 месяцев назад

So the 66kwh Bolt is rates for 259mile range, but in this test it was only able to barely squeeze out 200miles? Would driving in L and utilizing regen help this? I'm a bit surprised by the lack of range here...

@alleyoop5185 4 месяца назад

Welcome to range anxiety:)🥺

@warriorforestmonk 4 месяца назад

@@alleyoop5185 haha! I actually bought a used 2020 Bolt since my post. I love it. The simplicity reminds me of driving an old air cooled VW. I embrace the range anxiety and find it to put me in touch with my driving and efficiency, a conscious awareness people should tolerate and learn from instead of fearing. Also, I read a ridiculous story in the New Yorker just yesterday about excess pollutant emissions from EV because of supposed tire wear and brake pad wear. Also absurd since if one drives by deceleration instead of braking, regardless of car type, that solves all sorts of energy consumption and waste issues. Again, EV instills conscious awareness of driving habits. I love my Bolt, been driving it 90% of the time since November. I also have a diesel truck - driving my bolt most of the time is a total financial wash long term even with added tabs/insurance considering long term fuel/oil savings.

@semlohde1 Год назад

Did you use a csr or seat heater? Temps set to 70 perhaps? Radio usage? Do nights draw much for headlights? You have a nice base number, now, do it at 30-40 degrees at night using heaters, lights, radio. Yall certainly drained them. I'd hate being on the road and get that low. And take a trip, say 600 miles, for total time including charging. I just can't imagine wasting all that time charging.

@jo9732 Год назад

You only buy an EV for the gee whiz factor. They are cool but I don’t see the point. If I want a small crappy car just buy a Nissan Versa.

@amenhotepavoskin1307 Год назад

Even the 6-mile difference matters, unless you are willing to WALK those 6 miles. I may be mistaken, but the new battery on my 2019 Premier seems to take longer to charge, even after my everyday trip along the same route. I don't know if that could be attributed to the updated software or the new battery itself, but it is what it is.

@iMaxPatten Год назад

It’s mostly firmware - even on the old batteries Bolts with upgraded firmware had less aggressive charging rates to maintain safer battery conditions after the fires on a few units.

@amenhotepavoskin1307 Год назад

@@iMaxPatten Are you saying that those "new" batteries are nothing but the same old battery with more capacity and slower charging rates? I thought I heard them talking about a different battery chemistry...

@iMaxPatten Год назад

@@amenhotepavoskin1307 No I'm saying the slower charging behavior has more to do with firmware than battery. As shown in our test there is both more net and gross capacity in the new batteries; but the efficiency gains aren't as big as you might think due to that cautious firmware.

@amenhotepavoskin1307 Год назад

@@iMaxPatten OK. As long as it doesn't keep me from loving my Bolt as much as I do now... :)

@bubbabaker6244 Год назад

I did not cash what years are involved in the recall. Also what year were these 2 bolts and what could you get one of these gocarts for nowadays?

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

2017-2022 models were recalled. You can pick up a used one for around $20-25k. I’d definitely recommend also checking out getting a new bolt which are around $27-32k. It will qualify for some of the federal tax incentive, there’s an Uber credit, and there may be incentives in your state as well. Here in Colorado, it’s possible to qualify for over $13k in incentives.

@KyleConner Год назад

As the car market crashes I think it’ll be prudent to pick up an old, high mileage bolt without the battery upgrade, run it into the ground (park it outside) and just as it really ages, swap in a new battery for essentially a better than new range!

@darrenorange2982 Год назад

Right but you know from testing the new battery that you could get 66kwh right? You did that test. This battery swap is clearly not the new battery pack.

@KyleConner Год назад

@@darrenorange2982 good point! I don’t remember what I got out of the newest fresh installed pack but i recall more than this - Think it’s the same battery with a bigger software buffer or a totally different pack?

@darrenorange2982 Год назад

@@KyleConner If I recall you did see 66kwh. I don't know what they are doing here we would have to look at ODBII data, there is no buffer at the bottom in the Bolt so it would have to be at the top. But 6kwh is a massive difference. The old pack seems correct from my personal experience. The cut off is low voltage so lower C rate can make the car go farther.

@troosimimimmi Год назад

better search for kona without recall batterys better larger car with driver aid

@eurosteve50 Год назад

I may have missed this but what years are these Bolts? Not sure it makes any difference but it would be nice to know the age of the cars... Thanks

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

The bolt with the new battery is a 2017, the old battery was a 2018. There weren’t any significant differences between those models years

@eurosteve50 Год назад

@@ryankassel5691 Thanks! Good to know.

@priusnv Год назад

Must be the hybrid version!! 🤣

@aejhorst1 Год назад

In the Netherlands we get a 64 Kwh battery pack instead of the old 60 Kwh (gross) Question: was the tire pressure the same? Did one Ampera-e (Bolt) have the AC on and the other didn't? In short: was this comparable?

@iMaxPatten Год назад

Tire pressure was the same; we calibrated to 38 psi on each set of tires just before charging. The AC & heat are both off/on in the 2017 bolt, Bradley's newer 2019 Bolt let me discretely operate themk but to match Ryan's I turned AC and heat on. The biggest flaw is I was in L (higher regen) while Ryan was in D (less regen); but since we were mainly at highway speed, doing the same roads, and the Bolt has brake blending, even this difference should be very minor. This is about as comparable of a test as I've seen done; we did the same roads at the same day and time - only slightly changing driving towards the very end as our respective batteries were dying at different rates.

@troosimimimmi Год назад

wow they dont have a clue... theres no ”reserve” battery, just net battery set by manufacturers to protect battery.

@iMaxPatten Год назад

Yes, it’s the job of the BMS to allocate that reserve. We’ve seen multiple EV’s change their net capacity after manufacturers learn how their batteries behave in the real world. I’m not seeing the distinction here?

@1953drtelco 10 месяцев назад

My range increase at least 20% with the new battery

@MC-bm3cy Год назад

Oh when will they replace my battery😢

@JorgeEncarnacion Год назад

Maybe was the climate settings... 66kw car have 6% and 60kw car have 4%..

@ItsEverythingElse Год назад

4% climate vs 6% on the 66 kWh.

@Muchkneadedmassage Год назад

Burning question - how long will it take to FULLY recharge your bolt? DCFC vs 220 vs 120. Thanks for the review

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

0-100 isn't the fastest. It's about 40 minutes to 50%, 90 minutes to 80%, and about 2 hours to 100. At 240V, it takes around 10 or 11 hours. 120V is about 2 days.

@FinnishArmy Год назад

This isn't really a useful question. Why would you be charging from 0%? Usually, you'd be coming home and plugging in every night. Don't use an EV like gas and only put gas in when you run out. You plug your phone in at night, plug in your car every night, and you'll never need to worry about charge times.

@AdamRosenberg90 8 месяцев назад

GM say 66kwh, LG label the battery 64kwh

@wolfman9999999 Год назад

Correction. The 2017 through 2019 Bolts are getting an upgrade. 2020 and up will not.

@eurosteve50 Год назад

I don't think that's true. All Bolts are getting new batteries.

@wolfman9999999 Год назад

@@eurosteve50 Yes, all Bolts are getting new batteries. In the 2020 model year, the battery capacity was upped to 66kw from the factory. The 2017 - 2019 models are getting that battery, hence the upgraded range.

@zilogfan Год назад

282wh/mi is more than my model Y P driven hard. You were very kind on the go pedal...

@TomsProjects 10 месяцев назад

Video is no longer true! Chevy has decided that the 2020-2022 models will only get a software update. It will limit the charge to 80% and monitor the battery for 6,200 miles, and if it detects a problem it will alert you to make an appointment to replace the battery. If no problem is found, it will automatically remove the 80% charge limit. This means that my 2020 that just had this software update, when combined with the previous update that limited the charge to 80%, will result in approximately 2 years of being limited to 80% charge limit. Thanks a lot, Chevy! No new battery, no reset of battery warranty, not even a free Chevy T-shirt.

@yunodiewtf 6 месяцев назад

Dudes why not look at climate settings being 6% in new and 4% on old one?

@barryw9473 Год назад

Big buffer. Weight difference should not make that much difference.

@MBergyman Год назад

For the love of God, stop hyping the battery fire thing. The statistics are so low. Statistically, every other car on the road is just as likely to catch fire, some even more so.

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

Regardless of ICE/EV, it’s important to take your vehicle in for a recall service if there’s a fire risk!

@MBergyman Год назад

@@ryankassel5691 of course. But there is also a big difference between taking your vehicle in for recall service and fearmongering about that recall subject matter. This recall was only given as much attention as it was because it involved an EV. No parking garages are actively banning ICE vehicles with a recall that involved a fire risk or at the very least, not anywhere near the same extent as the Bolt was. That is the BS I'm talking about. Stop hyping stuff that doesn't need to be hyped. It attracts lopsided negative attention and makes people fear something much more than the facts warrant.

@Billiepippen Год назад

is that new battery the new ultimatum batteries I am hearing about?

@darrenorange2982 Год назад

@iMaxPatten Год назад

The Ultium battery packs are not in the Bolt; they were introduced with GMC Hummer EV and Cadillac Lyriq. Next year we'll supposedly see a lot more vehicles using them but the Bolt, which first launched in 2017, was before GM went all in with that battery architecture.

@jb9652 Год назад

I had so much trouble understanding your user name. I thought the 2 meant "two" not "to" for a bit. I wondered what the two big thighs were addicted to 🤔. 😅

@ripemelon393 Год назад

The same as what my name means 😂

@daves1646 Год назад

Might do ‘Truth in Lending’ in the Title - 2020 and newer Bolts will NOT get a larger battery, and MAY get a SLOWER charging curve. GM would like everyone think they’ll get a big upgrade. Us newer Bolt owners (35% of total, longest waiting) may get less performance if charging curve gets lowered.

@LPerezDancer Год назад

Why did one of you use D and the other use L? The one using the low regen D got 3.5 m/kwh and the one using the aggressive regen L got 3.4 m/kwh. Also, climate control used 6% in the Bolt on L with the bigger pack and only 4% climate control in the Bolt on D using the old pack. I'm a Bolt and Tesla owner BTW

@SeanGrahamSean Год назад

If you literally tested with a new battery, you can't do that. You need several cycles for the car to learn the battery's capacity before it will report and use it properly. Plus you can use OBD2 to see the exact numbers, which tells you what the learned capacity is, the estimated Ah, and range. Mine went from ~170Ah to ~190Ah and then up to ~205Ah after a couple of weeks. So I saw, like others comment anecdotally after some time, about a 20% increase in usable capacity.

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

The new battery has a few thousand miles on it!

@SeanGrahamSean Год назад

@@ryankassel5691 Hmm that's very strange then. I'd have to see the OBD2 data to know for sure but something might be up with the new pack.

@impala-wf2sd Год назад

So at highway speed the bolt will only get around 200 miles on a full charge..............

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

You can probably get a bit closer to 220 miles in warmer weather

@iMaxPatten Год назад

It's pretty normal for EV's to get less charge in our 70 MPH highway range test; these conditions are much more brutal than stop and go traffic for a single reduction gear electric motor. 200 miles at highway speed is actually pretty good and closer to the "average" car range than some EVs!

@jo9732 Год назад

@@iMaxPattenno it’s not. Can get 450 on a normal car in highway travel.

@W4rH4wkXX Год назад

🤣🤣those fake exhaust tips!!!

@nroose Год назад

Fewer bolt fires per mile than the average ICE car, by the way.

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

It’s true! Over a million vehicles from ford and hyundai/Kia were recalled for fire risk just this year. Regardless of ICE or EV, you should definitely take your vehicle in for a recall service if it’s a fire risk!

@unclej3910 Год назад

Your headline is misleading. Not every Bolt is getting a battery upgrade. 🤨 My new 2023 Bolt EUV already has the new battery upgrade from the factory.

@mgzeuthen Год назад

Unfortunately, this test wasn’t too scientific. They should have traveled the same distance then compare. Also, the new battery pack car showed 6% climate setting usage vs. 4% in the old. Maybe due to longer driving at slower speeds? New battery avg MPK after 203.3 miles: 3.39 Old battery avg MPK after 197.9 miles: 3.54 Handicap the the climate setting difference, the new battery avg MPK is close to 3.46. Lower than the old battery. Feel free to peer review this…

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

The driving speeds at the bottom of the battery pack is definitely a variable. It would have been great if we could have just stayed at 70 until each car died. I pulled in to the charging station only about 10 minutes after Max, so I think there might be something else also affecting the climate usages, I’m not entirely sure what, though. When we passed the charging station the first time, Max had 27 miles indicated and about 14-15% left in the battery. I had 34 miles indicated and 17-18% battery left according to the OBD2 scanner. It’s not a perfect comparison with BMS sway, but the difference is still a bit smaller than expected. It leads me to believe that the new battery is just slightly less efficient.

@Mr_Seppo Год назад

I have a question that you have never checked, it was a guy who checked the radiation that occurs when you charge the batteries, the value showed over 3000, when the limit value is around 300 as a maximum, isn't that important to know?

@roadfordays Год назад

Ah, the Russian oil propaganda trolls have found Out Of Spec Reviews

@KentBuchla Год назад

Please tighten up these videos. 6 mins in that could have been condensed to 1 min or less; even use the description. There is just too much ad-libbing. Write out an outline and follow the structure. This could be a 5 minute video.

@jo9732 Год назад

That’s not the goal. The longer the video the more ads loaded…

@zilogfan Год назад

The new pack must be heavier!! 4.5% more energy per mile is not minor. Or the tire pressures are WAY different...

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

The tire pressures were calibrated, I think the difference in efficiency might be somewhere in the drivetrain. Or maybe it’s the quad exhaust!

@iMaxPatten Год назад

Another commentor actually pointed out it isn't! Newer cell chemistry so it's ever so slightly lighter. Tire pressure was calibrated to 38 psi (Chevy's reccomendation) like Ryan mentioned.

@zilogfan Год назад

@@ryankassel5691 Could the battery case be heavier aka more fireproof? (sorry)

@ryankassel5691 Год назад

@@zilogfan not that I’m aware of

@THOMASGPII Год назад

Not the 2023.

@b.d.griffith3397 Год назад

So how can the average working family financially justify buying an ev knowing in 3-5 years at about 100000 miles they will get a $10000-20000 repair while they are still paying for the car and this repair will not be under warranty the ev future is in a scrapyard they are not viable as used vehicles.

@jo9732 Год назад

They can’t. This is a toy for rich old people or rich young kids. It’s cool and neat. No doubt. But a normal working family on a budget is not gonna go after this. Why would you. What’s the selling point other than “gee! Look at me”

@ameremortal Год назад

This seems extremely stressful. Probably fine for a daily driver, but don’t take this thing on a road trip.

@dejanimp5943 Год назад

Guys is this a monty python's flying circus...Drive that car immediately for a replacement, you can set someone's property on fire, or even worse, a shopping center or similar facility.

@dcam456 Год назад

Ryan 👍🏼, Max 👎🏼

@iMaxPatten Год назад

Sorry bro

@ameremortal Год назад

Is this video paid for? Just wondering.

@yellowsnowman9157 Год назад

Gas car of this size could have gone 500 miles. EVs are a scam.

@darrenorange2982 Год назад

This confirms that Chevy has totally lied to all the Bolt owners about getting the new pack. Only 60kwh useable? That is terrible.

@Matt-dx3wo Год назад

What about the BMS needing to recalibrate?

@PrincessTS01 Год назад

its such an ugly car

@FuncleChuck Год назад

Every car is ugly once I get in, who cares?

@jb9652 Год назад

@@FuncleChuck 👍 Unexpected comment! 😄 😎

@patriciachimienti8094 Год назад

This whole battery fiasco from Bolt is the major reason to BUY A TESLA!!!

@jb9652 Год назад

Are they good? 🤔😉🙂

@LonApex Год назад

There has been 143 confirmed cases of Teslas catching fire, with 44 fatalities. Very weird how you can just claim to go from one bad fiasco to a worse one when Chevy did the right thing by recalling lol.

@FuncleChuck Год назад

I’m kinda getting the exact opposite take. GM seems to care and fix their problems.

@jb9652 Год назад

@@LonApex Do you think we would benefit from a centralized database that contains objective information about each EV, complete with verifiable sources (that can be disabled, scaled etc by users of the database if they consider them unreliable). I'd much prefer that than subjective opinions / power games / memes, modulated by Elon's latest tweets. I'm not on any side, and I'm invested in just about all EV companies and technologies. I just want to know what's actually true. I don't have the headspace to keep track of everything that's going on, and the time to work out what is objectively true and what is opinion. I might have time to set up such a database though. Maybe it could use a contributor rating system, where contributors who contribute information that is objectively verifiable get higher ratings.