This path is just entirely too narrow from a standpoint of purely engineering the volume of that much flow. 2 Separate decks for walking and cycling would have been the only solution I think
It is very narrow indeed. Even though I tried to respect the bike lane as much as I could when I was there, sometimes it was just impossible to not walk on it, especially in days where there's a huge amount of tourists there.
You do realize that GoPro videos like this all distort the image, right? This path has far more room than you assume. Plus, do you really think a transportation planner would put bicycles on a 1-foot wide narrow strip? How arrogant. Please, maybe get your facts straight before making assumptions and drawing false conclusions. The problem here is simply people too stupid to simply follow the rules. Don't blame the path designers when people are clearly unable to follow pretty simple requirements. And as a cyclist who has ridden innumerable times with pedestrians on a bike path, only 20 feet away from an EMPTY pedestrian path, it doesn't matter how wide you make it if people can't understand the most basic of guidelines.
The bike lanes should say BIKES ONLY BIKES ONLY BIKES ONLY” down the entire bike lane instead of one small bike image with arrows every 100 feet or so.
In our country bike lanes are painted with bright yellow and their surface is red in the most crowded areas. That's somehow attracts pedestrians even more so all of them are walking on the bike lanes while sidewalks next to them are empty. :D
legend has it you just copy in paste this shit with a slight change of words every time you watch a video that shits stupid come up with better and original shit to say
It is. I was a bike commuter using that bridge and you have to constantly stop and use the horn all the time, I lose control of my bike several times trying to avoid crashes.
@@alfonsobossi1402 No we don't. It just add frustration to frustration. I live in Rome, a lot of up and down, bike are supposed to respect the one way no matter how high is the up. Very few bike lane. Almost all the car consider me a scooter, I can cross a street only on foot, if I try riding they honk and try everything they can to pass me: it's very dangerous. The only place when I feel safer is in the bike lane, and stupid pedestrian act always surprised when I'm on the bike lane. Worst are dog owner blocking all the lane with the leash. You want to keep particular care to a leash in certain light they are almost invisible. if I get caught in that I fear I woul really hurt myself and probably kill the dog.
I was on that bridge once and a guy just yelled into a crowd adjacent to me and blocking the way that if they don't move, he'll ride right through and he did exactly that. I took tons of pics and of the awkward faces the tourists made.
I see your point and can feel your frustration from similar daily experiences. But you too are traveling way too fast for this situation. Too narrow, too many people doing unforseeable things. With this speed there is no margin for error or random events. It exposes you to the suspicion, that the wellbeing of of other people is lower on your priority list than the pursuit of your rights as a motorized cyclist. And sooner or later will get someone hurt.
A shared path like this is always bad. Its biggest fault is that it is too narrow. The paint showing you where to be, would be useful if people only respected it, but alas.
The fault is actually too much useless traffic. Ban all foot traffic and ticket anyone not on a bike. It's mostly all useless tourists and selfie braindeads not actually going anywhere. They don't need to be there.
This seems pretty dicky to me. If pedestrians share that bridge they have just as much of a right away as you. They are slower, not to mention kids and old people. You should be the one slowing down. The horn is super necessary but you're using just to throw your weight around as if you getting where you want is more important.
_"You should be the one slowing down"_ If you actually worked for a living and relied on getting from A to B in time you would understand that you can't just slow down for everyone. The issue here is obviously the cars that take up all the space, remove them, making PEV's more attractive by deregulate them, and there will be plenty of space for everybody.
Don't complain about the pedestrians standing on the "bike lane". Complain about the terrible infrastructure. Good infrastructure will force good behaviour.
Pedestrians are our allies in the struggle with cars. I can understand your frustration, but the lanes for pedestrians and bikes are too narrow. Some sympathy and consideration for pedestrians is necessary here.
100% agree, this space is way too small for pedestrians and bicycles. 6 lanes for cars and 1 lane for everyone else is pretty absurd for a city like New York
From my experience the result is instead of 50% pedestrians on the bike lane there are 95% pedestrians on bike lane. Due to the bike lane being "nicer"
Visit the netherlands or Belgium and you will see why people need to stay out of the bike lane, people will come with speeds like 30km/h if not faster.
If you don't cycle with some amount of speed pedestrians will never take flight. If you constantly allow yourself to be slowed, it instantly becomes pedestrianised, forcing you onto the pedestrian side to go round them. The royal Jordanian London biker knows how to wake up sleep walkers.
I cycle everyday...you're going way too fast to deal with the unexpected. Yes - these people shouldn't be standing in the bike lane but your speed leaves you with little opportunity to react to them if they do not jump to the left/right as you expect them to. The pedestrians are of course responsible for where they are standing/walking but you also have a responsibility to recognise how your actions may affect others.
the magic of a wide camera is that it makes you seem faster than you are, we'll disagree on this all day but i was prepared for an unexpected run out to stop almost instantly. regardless i did this one time for the purpose of the video, i never rode that bridge again.
And if they get hit standing or walking the the bike lane, it’s no different than a cyclist getting hit for cycling on the interstate. Neither has any business being there in the first place and assumes all risk of death or injury when choosing to blatantly disregard their own safely.
@@official.electricdreams you're not even on a bike. You're on an e-bike or something similar. You'll receive no respect from the cycling community. When I see someone on an e-bike riding in the way that you do, I assume they're just an ass. You're putting in no effort, don't ride like an ass.
Exactly, he recorded his run 4:30 between start and market, according to google maps that's 1.2 mile... that's 16 mph average speed. If you count how many times he had to brake or nearly stop, he had probably top speeds close to 20 mph, this is way too fast considering the proximity with tons of pedestrians and counter-trafic cyclists. So, i do agree that there's a problem with the infrastructure and discipline of the pedestrians, but that's way too fast. When i learned to drive a car i was always taught two rules : - Keep a margin to accomodate for other people's mistakes - Even if you're legally right in a situation, speeding straight into danger won't save you from injuries
There's not a heap of room there thats for sure. Some spots are pretty dangerous to have bikes going both ways and fit pedestrians as well. Particularly dangerous when this dude is going almost as fast as a damn car.
Exactly , this guy is flying and is being an ass. No one should be blocking the bike lane but you do not get to go as fast as you want. Look at the people he comes across in the first 30 seconds. They are on bikes, using the path correctly and on the correct side of the bike path, yet this guy comes flying up. You had be at the horn, you lost me at trying to turn a shared bike path into a one way race course.
@@antoniojmonetti I have to check as well to be sure, but that particular rider was on an E - bike. Those things can get up and go . 35+ mph. im surprised they do not have a low speed mode for situations like that . I still think he was a bit over the top. RU-vid the guy that did a wheelie all the way across the bridge to clear the bike lane. Its epic. hes respectful, shares the lane with respectful runners, and was in much more control.
@@OneMouseGaming Yeah that thing looked like it was going just 5mph slower than traffic below! I remember checking though for a speed limit, just could not find it. But they should be careful since people can stray into the lane distracted and then get hit.
Another pet peeve that I see all the time on my local trail is that invariably two fat women will walk across from each other, and one will walk on the right and the other on the left, while talking to each other, and bottleneck all other traffic to go between them. The path in this video is insane, it's actually 4 lanes of traffic per the ground marks!
Then add to that they're both wearing ear buds, so a bicycle bell or calling out that you're passing and need room and don't want to startle them goes completely unnoticed. "BUT LISTENING TO MUSIC IS MY RIGHT!!!"
why would you use an electric bike ? no health benefit at all, might aswell get a motorcycle then...at least you don't have to honk all this time like you are in Thailand.
Cars in bike lanes is illegal parking in a lane that is not theirs. Pedestrians in bike lanes are not in their lane of traffic. False equivalency. If cyclists were complaining about peds in a sidewalk that'd actually be bad but peds do not belong in any lane of traffic, it's dangerous for their own safety.
@@dmv2ks Many bike riders do complain about car drivers who they are suppose to share the road with and sound just like pedestrians complain about bike riders they are to share the paths with. Most of the issues is bike riders and walkers are not where they are suppose to be and say the same things about the over takers. Same arguments are made by both parties.
They should not be unsuspecting. They are expected to be aware of their environment and what's happening around. Watching out and listening are quite usable for that.
I am especially sick and tored of bastards who walk sode by side wjen they are more than two people. I I don't mind a couple walking on left side, but those goddamn six people completely blocking both directions makes me nuts. One time, I aggressively rang bell and some slow peds were saying I am a menance. Then I started to slow down and silently pass, but even then another group refused to clear path. Fell over into the side of the path and they had guts to giggle. Wanted to swing my bike locks on them. But this video makes me feel satisfied. Maybe I should get a loud horn.
they need to take out 2 of those car lanes and make dedicated bike lanes - those cars don't need to be on that bridge anyway, not at that population density
Very dangerous place..too many people for the space provided for them...probably lots of tourists too...unfamiliar with it and distracted...you may be in the right re the lane, but it’s only a matter of time until you knock someone down at that speed. If the road is full of people I have to slow my car even though I can do 30 mph legally. Killing someone in my car won’t make me feel great even if I was right....the lanes are too narrow.
I love all the comments about "This is how they should have done it." Jump into your time machine and race back to 1883; I am sure the builders will appreciate your input.
Hahaha hmu when theres a time machine. But at the same time if the infrastructure can withstand time the rules of it should be updated, there shouldnt be a bike lane in the first place.
That's nonsense. The Brooklyn Bridge layout was changed several times in the past; there have even been railroad tracks on it and there used to be much more room for pedestrians in the past. The 6 car lanes were introduced relatively recently and are easily changed to a layout that allows reasonable space for bicyclists and pedestrians. This could easily have been included in the recent renovation.
i ride an electric wheel taht goes almost half the top speed of most cars and i could confidently carry a horn like this, as i ride with cars. so many idiots on foot and on rubber. begode master pro and monster pro. lookin at a used v13 rn too
Chilll a bit. What's the hurry? You aren't expending energy pedaling, so YOU get the privilege of waiting for people who are actually pedaling or walking. You are moving as fast as the cars on the adjacent street...so maybe you should be over there!??!?!??!
If you want to ride as if you are in a road race ,go on the road. It is a cycle track ,not a race track. Racing causes accidents. They are there to keep cyclists are from vehicles . There is no law against a pedestrian straying onto the track. There are laws regarding dangerous behaviour . The cyclist in the video is not dealing with a full deck in my opinion. Buy a motorbike instead and go on the road.
mans literally using the bike lane for what its supposed to be used for, people are using bikes cause they either dont like cars, cant afford something like a motorbike, or are just trying to keep in shape and do something decent for the environment for once
They need to widen the deck, put it right on top of the lanes dedicated to car traffic. As angering as it may be to some who watched this, I'm glad to see such demand for walking and biking. I live in Dallas and we can only dream of having biking and walking infrastructure that good.
I enjoy the video. I laugh at the scared people clogging up your lane…. But…. Why can’t you travel at a more relaxed pace so that these issues aren’t so bad? Have you ever watched videos of European shared paths? The cyclists (or electric scooters, which are rare) aren’t barrelling along at fast speeds like you are. I guess it wouldn’t get you the clicks, eh?
😂It is normal behaviour in Yorkshire towns for pedestrians to walk in cycle lanes and paths while leaving the pavements empty. That is how you know you're in Yorkshire.
The hell with pedestrians on the bike lane!! They resent resent cycling on the pavement/sidewalk - rightly so - so why on earth do they walk on the cycle lane?! This is a behaviour that should be fined.
... jeeze... that's one long bridge to cross... the annoying sound of your electric horn is a very useful tool to move the pedestrians out of your way!
When are pedestrians cars trucks planes and everything else going to learn that bicycles on the road any role that a bicycle is on the bicycle automatically owns it and it's the most important thing on it
I hate to use my horn so I have a bell too which is less offensive. This is ridiculous. I’m surprised nobody got injured. I suspect bicycles and pedestrians need to be kept apart.
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If people are in the bike lane I ride the sidewalk. If pedestrians complain about that I will either swear or ignore them depending on their size . I swear at pedestrians in the bicycle lane only if they are under two hundred pounds excluding kids and elderly because I am a gentleman.
These cycle routes are ridiculous because you can’t control people walking . Each individual will walk where they want so all that money spent on these upgrades should be spent on how we can improve rather than just rush and build .
