I have a feeling that V was the second strngest behind jahad amoung the 13 great warriors they were always arguing as disagreeing and it was arlene who always stopped them.
I think so also. We know his tension was the highest which essentially suggests that his shinsu was the most destructive/explosive. At the very least he is on par with the top 3 family leaders. My theory is that V probably created the floral butterfly piercing technique, or that it and the general fighting style that fug teaches slayers is derived from how V fought, given that his homie Luslec is the head of fug.
@@mahts9161 yeah but the gap was pretty big not to mention all the family leaders cept arlene chose jahads side because he was stronger even though some of them are anti jahad. They were obviously goong with the winning side cuz jahad had proven his superiority. Theres just more evidence and clues pointing towards jahad outmatching v rather than the other way around
I have a feeling Tu Perie is going to be way more badass than we expect and do stuff that is so much different than any other light bearer. I feel like he is going to be able to some mind bending stuff.
Arlen and V were able to fight the other 10 great family heads which caused a great civil war. That should say enough about their strength. The fact that Zahard had to make a contract with a guardian to become King means that he felt he needed more power. Imo before making a contract with the guardian, V was probably the strongest if not Arlen because the way she uses mysterious spells is reminiscent of Bam's ability to do so. Having a mysterious power in Tower of God usually means it comes from outside the tower and we've seen the reality bending abilities Bam's and Arlen's spells have. These are abilities of an Axis. Bam got this from his mother who knew about the God outside the tower and she prophesied the current events happening right now. She was ranked far too low for what we know of her. Not to mention Zahard only respects strength. Hell, he makes his own "daughters" compete for his love and the winner gets him. It would make no sense for a character like this, who also loves conquest and conquering, to like the weakest member of the group lol I think Gustang is the smartest but weakest of the 12. He's like Batman. With prep he can best all members in the Justice League, but it won't be a fair fight and he does need prep.
Just cuz they started a war doesn't make v the strongest hell they even lost the war and jahad made a contract for invincibility against the residents of the tower so that doesn't include Arlene, v and the 10 family heads. If V was the strongest he'd be the leader of the group its that simple.
@@thatoneguywhodislikedthevi970 not true. Khun Eduan respects strength which is why he ended up following Zahard. He stated he felt V was the best candidate to be leader because he was a man of the people where Zahard always wanted more for himself. The fact that Khun Eduan was willing to follow him says a lot. Even Data Eduan only let his strong children follow him and to this day there is inequity between his bloodline because they all know he respects strength. This at the very least would suggest that he saw V as greater than himself as well as Zahard. Despite the Civil War started in a 2 vs 10, V was never executed, and he did not have the immortality contract. He ended up committing suicide despite the other 10 family heads being pit against him along with Zahard's hatred. The fact that he did not get captured speaks volume to V's strength. You're mistaken if you think otherwise. Imagine going against all armies of the strongest families and never getting caught and only committing suicide to try and help your loved one. That's god shit buddy. The fact that Zahard is still scared shitless of Arlen's prophecy speaks volumes to her strength and rage. As for Zahard we know that he does not play fair and makes contracts for more power, and can see fate even greater than Khel, so I'm not saying he was weak. He could have been the strongest. It's just my opinion that if he were so superior before the contract, then after the fact and after gathering powerful tools and allies, Zahard should have definitely bodied V instead of a young infant, because he was angry that he got rejected. He simply couldn't and took his anger out on the next best thing that would hurt Arlen. With context clues I'd argue if V wanted power like Zahard, he could have had it and rivaled him, but because Zahard can see fate... His greatest gift and biggest curse is that he is the One that's always steps ahead. He knows when to move and when not to, but I think his anger clouds his judgement not to mention he will forever be alone because he understands what no one else can even see. This is what truly makes Zahard a threat above the rest.
@@pharaohj2130 edhan never said he was the best candidate to become the leader all he said was if he had to choose someone to be the king he'd pick v over jahad not beacuse of his strength but beacuse he wants to know more bout the people of the tower. He respect people with strength but he's not gonna follow any random joe just cuz hes strong we can see that in the hidden floor when he went against jahad even though he was stronger than him. As for the runing away from 10 family heads it's really not as big of a deal as you make it sound even luslec can pull it off if v really was the stronger one he wouldn't just stay still after jahad killed his child he'd at the very least try to kill one of the family heads and if he really was as strong as you make him seem he would have at least killed one or two but no he committed suicide. I know its your opinion but when you go around making shit up like its cannon it just gets annoying.
@@thatoneguywhodislikedthevi970 the reason why I love stories like Tower of God and One Piece is because it leaves a lot for speculation so that discussions like this can happen. I've never once come at your views on the story. Please show the same respect to my views. They are just a perspective. Once more is revealed in the story is when the canon is out. For now all we have is speculation. I didn't see the need to state that in writing MY perspective but for you, I will use this reply to do so to satisfy you if that's what you'd like. Everyone, what I write is my perspective of the story. It should not be taken as canon. It is me showing my appreciation for a great story. I use supporting evidence for my perspectives which is what helps create them in the first place. They did not run away from the 10 family heads. They started a civil war that is still going on today via Fug within the tower. Anybody capable of that level of inspiration to where the King has to continuously watch for threats after V's death and Arlen's disappearance is a top tier threat. Period. Can you agree that V and Arlen were top tier threats to Zahard's rule? Let's start here. Would love to hear your opinion on why or why not.
@@pharaohj2130 bruh are we even reading the same story anymore? It's literally stated in the whole fod flashback that they lost the war and ran away. Jahad isn't trying to kill bam just beacuse hes Arlene and Vs son that's only part of the reason he saw some sort of fate regarding bam thats why he went out of his way to kill bam. I will agree on one thing and thats that Arlene and V were top tier threats but that goes for all the family heads I mean just look how big of deal it was when gustang betrayed jahad.
@@WilliamJulienNkogheOlympio buddy edahn said, he had the potential to be their leader and his strength was ridiculous…… Which makes sense taht he could have been stronger than jahaad or even equal
Phatiminium shouldn’t be on a lost ranking irregulars. He is basically one of the gods of the world along with the “outside god” they are on a different level from the characters in this story and quite literally control aspects of their lives like Zahard but 1,000 times stronger
Yeah Axis or "Gods" are even stronger than Admins who are themselves above the 13 Irregulars Warriors and Urek, this is unfair to count them. Even Enryu who is a direct servant of an Axis surpass Admin level maybe he is on Headon level or stronger but anyway if you surpass the rulers of the tower or are on their level, you shouldn't be ranked at all lmao
When TOG ends (Which I am never gonna be ready for) Bam... is gonna probably be in the top 3. This ranking video was really good! Speaking of "Scariest" characters of TOG, I have a video idea! Top 10 most scariest Irregulars in TOG! I would put Bam at number 4 or 3 but whatever place you put him, it's cool! But that is my video idea. I guess this is a.. day 1 of asking thing I am doing! lolz! Loved this vid, Joe! Cannot wait for your next one! ^^ 🤍
2:03 "he can even control people, he can mind control whoever he wants" if you carefully understand the words you will realize that there is an error in the words. just imagine if indeed, traumerei can control the mind of whoever he wants, doesn't that make him stronger than zahard himself. This is a mistake on our part, readers, misunderstood what Siu said at the beginning, when he showed the silhouette of the head of the Lo Po Bia family, it was said that the Lo Po Bia family head could even control people. traumerei can only control animals, indeed traumerei can control people. underlined the person is a person who has animal genes which are the result of workshop research. such as cat races, mouse races, dog races which are the result of research combining animal DNA/genes with humans/people
You left out a key fact about Tu Perie . He gave away the Operas because he obtained the Eyes of God which allowed him to see everything. Mazino - Arie hon admitted that Mazino was stronger than him when he was just a regular climbing the tower .
Get out of the list Rachel 🙄 Day 47 of asking for a video related to Io, Punk, Varagarv, and the Blood Tamara in the workshop battle and what happened there
What if Yeon Hana was inlove with V. And broken hearted when she found out He is inlove with Arlen. She later decided to not marry to anyone bcoz of guilt and sadness
Axises are basically the author of their own story, thus no matter what they encounter (except for another axis) they'll always win. and in the outside, Phantaminum is the 5th strongest axis. So, kinda speaks for itself tbh.
Ok hear but, what if Baam manages to break Hendo's curse and therefore Hendo starts helping Baam. And this could kinda happen maybe. But back when Baam was talking to Eduan in the data world, Eduan did go tell Baam to go meet him one day. And since Eduan doesn't necessarily like the new jahad right now because he is not acting like a "adventurer" what if we see both Eduan and Hendo helping Baam against Jahad. Just a fun little thought I had.
Hendo isn't cursed though. It's his family that is cursed and he's basically the one who put it on them since he was so terrified of death that he had to have immortality no matter what conditions the Guardian gave him
I bet the reason phantaminum showed up to speak to jahad is because jahad tried to learn how to manipulate fate as seen with the fug elder, but since he isn't an axis phantaminum showed up to tell him to quit playing pretend. Also, I recently found out "talze user" was supposed to be tales user and I want everyone to know about it
How wide is the gap between jahad and Urek? I don’t think it’s ever been confirmed who is actually stronger, I feel like the only reason jahad ranks above him is his political power as the “king” of the tower. Would like to hear some opinions on this.
Well, I've read several times that Urek could be stronger than Jahad, but he's not interested in fighting him. And from what I have read and what I have understood there are characters, like Garam, who believe that he can actually beat him (I say this because she wants him to kill Jahad, I guess someone like Garam would not ask this to someone weaker than him), also because of his personality I do not think he thinks or is really weaker than Jahad, but again, as he is not interested he is still one place below, and there is also the matter that he is immortal and that he is the king of the Tower.
Yeah, but anyways, Jahad would probably not be interested in fighting Urek just for the sake of it. But hey, let's suppose, right, well, Jahad has the contract that makes him immortal, so even though an irregular could probably go around that, it is a factor that could change the tide of such a battle.
@@ninj-as7710 i was thinking that being an irregular means fighting someone with immortality or invulnerability like jahad wouldn't matter since irregulars can "defy the rules of the tower"
I could easily see urek being stronger in a completely fair fight with no items and no immortality contracts. I think it’s actually likely to be honest.
Anybody ever really wonder what Phantaminum (Pentaminum, etc.) uses for his weapon, and why exactly his sobriquet would be “Riddle”? I did read some raws of SIU’s Talse Uzer original story, and there was mention of a certain Axis who utilized phantoms for his ability. Another being an axis who seemed to be able to manipulate a space around him to where he could fire bullets from a gun and have them appear from anywhere (Underground for example)… I believe Phantaminum was a character from Level by Level, which had something to do with a different flower, or one of the 30 towers. I think that being arrived from one of the other towers. I feel like this is kind of why SIU wanted to kill off his involvement, due to being able to break the story. Also, I wonder how Zahard (Jahad) has a relationship to this apparently deceased Conqueror King, as well as the Artificial Creation King. Again, a lot of this is not directly parallel with ToG, but it is still involved within that universe, so one can only ponder. Love your videos by the way. Incredibly detailed content and well understood, well versed.
It will be too lame if a god-like being still need a weapon. He just need to think or blink and his enemy will just vaporized. Maybe he needs one if he's going to fight another axis from another verse. 😅 Riddle is like puzzle, nobody in the tower really know who or what he is, so he's an unsolved mystery.
These are from the Tower of God wiki. It’s a portion where you can read relatively well translated portions of S.I.U’s first entry for his Tailse Uzer Story. It actually features the character Tailse Uzer, and it’s interesting. It has incredibly deep implications to the current Tower of God series, though I don’t think we actually will ever see the Artificial Creator King or even hear about the Conqueror. It’s a strangely fine line between what is canon, yet excluded from the series currently.
Fsr I completely forgot that the 13 Warriors were Irregulars as well, so when Bam was at 17, I dropped my phone on my face. Thankfully, the pain jogged my memory. Thanks for a great video Joe! Day 13 of asking for a theory video on the murals of ToG
Hi Joe ! I have a video suggestion for you. I read ToG twice now, but the chronology of the Tower as a whole still escapes me. How was the Tower before Jahad and his companions came (like the system of regular and ranker, the hierarchy), the war, Genesis, Enryu coming in the Tower... Basically all important event explained in order and how much time between them. I hope you make it one day ! (I'm gonna post this exact same message two or three times on your next videos so I'm sure you would have a good chance to read it once)
These guys are, in my opinion, the most interesting characters in the story. Because all of them are monsters in some way. Be it physical strength such as Jahad and the family heads or in personality like Rachel.
how can the people of the Yeon family not be Yeon Hana's descendents? if they are descended from Yeon Ilarde, is Ilarde an irregular too? where did Ilarde come from?
I think V is stronger than jahad ... Bcz he fought 10 leaders without immortality and survive.... Just this information is enough to imagine how much of a beast he was....
So i wonder... Is Yeon Illarde an irregular? If not, then the yeon family isnt really that important aside from Hana... And if so, then why wasnt she considered one of the warriors? Like, why isnt it 14 warriors?
I really think that trumerai will be one of the stronger ones in the 13 great warriors. I just cannot see him being inferior to gustang especially since he didn't mind waging war at him. I just don't see him being among the weaker ones.
Akryung is his name and yes he is a irregular. He uses irregular techniques, and when headon is deascibing irregulars in the tower they show a picture of him. He is more a real irregular than Rachael, who by definition/technically a regular who used a irregular to get into the tower
The title says CONFIRMED irregulars, which Akryung is not. Simply having Shinwonryu doesn't prove it, as the God of Guardians has it, and he isn't an irregular.
I only clicked cause of the thumbnail but the guy(I don’t remember his name). Who protected Rachael at the beginning/ had a throwing contest with rak. Is a irregular it’s described him in multiple tabs how he isn’t on the list is beyond me
So... 1) Yeon Hana is a irreagular. 2) Irregulars comes from outside the tower. 3) Yeon Ilarde is an old fellow family member of Hana (not descendent). This can only implies that either Yeon Ilarde also came from outside the tower (therefore also an irregular) or another family member older than Ilarde has entered the tower and when inside had descendants including Ilarde but not including Hana.
BRUH, okay i have no idea if this is already a theory or not but here goes. go to 11:46, and take a look at the shadow being cast on the back wall. it's very obviously Pentaminum's (Phantaminum? i see it spelled like this on this wiki?) hair blowing behind him as he walks off from the massacre he just dealt out to those poor folks. but it looks kind of familiar, no? looks kind of like the long, stringy black hair that Ghost has everytime we see him. what if Ghost is Pentaminum in disguise? and i mean, i'm not sure what the deal is with the multiple spellings of his name, but what's another word for ghost? Phantom..... maybe since he made such a big splash with his original entrance into the Tower, he now has to take up a secret identity just to be able to move around. and maybe he's decided he wants to see what this new Irregular, Bam, can do. or hell, maybe he's the whole reason for the prophecy and Bam's journey to begin with?
I'd say v would be just behind jahad if he kept butting heads with him, also considering the tension is how powerful a bang is he'd definitely has the power to back it.
I think you skipped 11 but oh well lol I got V at 4th being right there with Jahad! I think want to rank Gustang because he seems like the type of person you don't allow to have prep time for a fight but that's just my head cannon. However, with that being said I would bump down Tu Perie Tperie to 11, Gustang at 10, and Blossom at 9. I think Gustang being the head of the workshop which is its own entity within the tower can't go unnoticed. We know so little about his family that it's safe to assume that the workshop has quite a few high rankers in it. Blossom being the best wave controller among the FH is enough of an argument to have her ahead of others. Our MC is a wave controller and we think he's busted, so imagine what she will be like!!!
Is Yeon Ilarde an irregular then? As she is a relative of Hana, and Hana came from the outside. Or maybe its like how princesses of jahad are related to jahad
1:55 Lo Po Bia Traumerei, also known as: *_"The Man With The Drip"_* , *_"The Furry King"_* , *_"The Average L Enthusiast"_* , *_"The Origin of The Stinky Otaku Plague That Infests The Tower"_* , *_"The Furry To Put Down All Furries"_* , but most importantly, *_"The Furry Stinky Otaku That Has The Drip"_* .
I dont think the point about Jahad being able to take any position is relevant, I believe at some poiint it was said that fisherman at high ranks was no longer just a position, but it mean to be a perfect warrior so any fisherman would be able to take any position as well.
Lowkey think bam has axis power cuz remember in the fight with white he made it seem like he had absolute control in a finite space with his rain and shinsu field. I mean hes pretty young still so it makes sense that its weak but the description for the power and the feeling white had seems like foreshadowing
I'll put Bloodmatter as the 'weakest' family head since his contract might be incomplete and he's 'just' a defender/tanker. Tu Perie should be second weakest, even strongest light bearer is still 'just' light bearer, the support role. As for Rachel,who knows if one day she suddenly unlock her irregular power and become a main antagonist. Baam was very weak too at the beginning. Maybe she just need a right person to train her / unlock her power, right person such as Gustang.
Imo, Tu Perie is probably ranked as high as he is largely because of influence. He seems like he's been pretty active post-Genesis compared to the others. He created the Operas after the climb and gave one to the Jahad Family and one to the Workshop, the two most influential groups in the Tower. And thanks to his own Opera and Eyes of God, he's practically omniscient within the Tower. We've seen how much influence Repellista has from leveraging information to make deals with High Ranker Princesses, so maybe Tu Perie does the same with his fellow Family Heads. Eurasia Blossom, by contrast, is probably one of the least influential FH's as she spends all her time sleeping and is noted to not take care of her Family or the Floors she rules much. So I feel like she's probably the 4th strongest of the Heads overall, considering that she's the absolute best at controlling shinsu of all the Great Warriors and prefers an offensive style, unlike Gustang.
Bam is already to powerful, I know this was done a year ago but Macheny whos top 100, was weaker then JinSung Ha, who himself is a top 100 Ranker; Who got beaten by Kallavan (SIU says its about even, but Kallavan favoured due to his high def) Bam already managed to dmg him, through his high defense; then White beat Kallavan, and after a short while Bam beat White... even absorbing his powers... so Machenny < Jin < Kallavan = White < Bam Bam is already top 100 level, by the fighting logic SIU gave us... honest to god, I hate this so much; it means we can never climb the tower - and with that no more test, way less mystery, cause with absolute power you can just take what you need to know etc. So the intricate world is wasted, as we are only having fights all the time, and on such an insanely big scale... like how do we go back from fighting top 100 rankers, and having a Ten Family civil war - to climbing tower floors (I think he hasnt even past 56 yet...) but we will see - I dont think bam is fully a top 100 Ranker in terms of power - but by this logic, hed be stronger then Yuri... or his master (who is injured right now so yeah)
Im not sure about Rachel. I know its kind of a popular stand in the fandom she's not a chosen Irregular due to Bam being the chosen one and Headon's words but Headon is manipulative and could of use that to make her more desperate and play along with whatever their plans are. I don't remember if there was anything said about the manner the GW, Enryu, and Urek entered. The 13GWs are a lot and I'm not sure if they went there by some order one-by-one or they opened it all together like poof Headon suddenly have 13 new faces in the 1st floor at the same minute. And I'm not sure how they exactly trigger entering, like do they just stand or lie down in a certain spot? Bam and Rachel got through in just one spot, Rachel slipping in first then later Bam is taken. There seems to be some short time gap in between as Headon hid Rachel before Bam got there. Urek/Enryu seems to get inside by their own. In a way, her connections with Bam and Arlene are what makes her a bit relevant and could have been also a factor why she's there and supported in her climb despite her being weak. Even so, I think the tower did chose her even outside of Bam or along with Bam (remember that Bam and Rachel's character are foils) to bring in some change in the status quo and whatnot so whether people like me like it or not, she's there for a reason as well. Both scared and excited to see how Bam will shoot up among this ranks in the long future, Traumerei has me on the edge of my seat if they ever confront each other. I hope he won't be able to kill Rei atleast, I feel he's currently a baby fish compared to the FHs as of now.
@@kinggames7863 yeah that's also true. even if he is the 5th strongest, that's the whole TUS universe we are talking about. Bet Jahad and friends wouldn't even come in top 1000.
Don’t forget when urek passed det test mans actually beat him down cause if I’m not mistaken didn’t the test go like u had to just survive fa like 10 mintues or something like that and dude said fuck survive ima just drop yo ass🤣🤣🤣🤣
If Bam beats Jahad, he might end up becoming 4th place according to this list. He wouldn’t dare beat up Urek so we wouldn’t know for sure which ones more powerful and Enryu is just too strong.
What if bams dad is actually Jahad? He got most of his visual traits from his mother, but we haven't seen her eyes yet, so those golden eyes could be jahads. We also know that Bam's biggest strength is versatility since he can copy any technike and therefore master any shinsu position, wich is also something not v, but jahad is known for.
got curious about how you list would look and if you would be one of those that puts mc way higer than he should be at the point of story etc (first time watching one of your videos) and defenitly happy you are not one of those :)
Can you do a vid on the Tower of God anime. More specifically, if the anime were to return and have fillers or movies, what do you see their content being like. What would a ToG filler episode look like, or a ToG movie. What arcs in ToG would work great as a movie.
Bam isn’t an axis and I don’t believe so cuz SIU regretted even bringing phanta in the tog story cuz axed are too strong for tog so I don’t believe tog will have anything to do with axes
