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The TRUTH about Baam's Identity | Tower of God - Théorie 

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Well, we had to do it sometime, so here's the first Tower of God theory video, featuring two complementary theories on Baam's true identity. Is he really the son of V? Who is the Prince of Jahad? What's missing from the story Garam told us about him? What did Arlen Grace really do? How was Baam resurrected? Why was he locked up in this cave? Where is this cave located? What is his connection with Rachel? How did Rachel meet Arlen? What has the God of the Outside done to Baam? Is he the Tower's savior or the monster that will devour it? In short, there are so many questions to be answered here. Hang on to your hats, because there's a lot to talk about and, like the plot SIU has created, it's all very complex.
00:00 Introduction
01:07 BaZa - The Prince of Jahad
09:33 BaZa - Baam Jahad
17:08 Baam's Identity - Chronology and Location
29:29 Baam's Identity - Baam is dead
43:55 Conclusion
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Writting, editing and original voice : Lilian
English voice made by the IA ElevenLabs
BaZa theory (Baam is Jahad's son) :
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Asriel theory (Arlen and chronology, Baam cave, etc.) :
docs.google.com/document/d/1o...
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@Gwizz1337
@Gwizz1337 27 дней назад
I believe that Baam is a true anomaly to the tower. Truly 1 of a kind, and absolutely unique given the circumstances leading to what can be seen as his "re-entry" into the tower. IYKYK
@mayh3m3d
@mayh3m3d 3 месяца назад
I'll be honest, I haven't been the biggest fan of the BaZa theory, but this video shook me. It's the best explanation I've seen of the theory and it makes Garam's line about how Bam knowing the full truth would ruin him and make him hate her. It makes Gustang's line about Bam's father being the worst person he's ever met make more sense. It does feel like mental gymnastics to theorize why Gustang hates V so much when the most obvious explanation makes the most sense. Also, how you tied it in with Hockney's painting blew my mind. I think there's more to add to this, specifically on the Rachel front with the more recent stuff but I'll refrain. Great video as always! I'm looking forward to your future content. On a side note, I wonder what Bam's real name is if it was just Luslec who gave him that name and not Arlen?
@OK25000
@OK25000 3 месяца назад
Ayo i just finished watching your vids and now you drop this. The ToG community is in a desperate need of more creators with an unbiased and in-depth knowledge of the series. Thank you. Hoping for more recent story discussion.
@OK25000
@OK25000 3 месяца назад
If this is true, than ToG starts to feel more like a greek tragedy like Oedipus, more than a shonen fantasy
@dreamybullthugshaker
@dreamybullthugshaker 2 дня назад
Funny how you mentioned Oedipus
@otothex1
@otothex1 3 месяца назад
Bam's horns are also intresting, wagnan and endorsi both have physical horns, and bam gets shinsu horns or whatever as his powers manifest. Very intresting. Is that Zahards powers awakening within Bam? I also wonder if the sun has any relation to Bam being able to break spells. Its not a stretch saying that the administrators contracts are spells using shinsu. So that would mean Bam has the power to break contracts, i.e. the immortality contract of Arlene. Whoever thought this all up is cooking
@Poppyrae
@Poppyrae 3 месяца назад
Please continue making theories I love the detail and time you took on this theory. I’m not the biggest fan of bam is jahads son but you did a fantastic job explaining and making a compelling argument. I love your videos I’m so happy I found your channel and I truly hope it grows. At the moment you may be my favorite tog theorist
@Remorsefulz
@Remorsefulz 3 месяца назад
Dude, I've been binge watching your content for a while now and just wanted to say thank you so much for making these videos, and i can't wait to support you till the end.
@aymericschneider628
@aymericschneider628 3 месяца назад
Super idée de doubler en anglais, nos amis anglophones vont se régaler et j'espère que tu finiras par avoir les subs que tu mérite 👌
@Red.mRk3r
@Red.mRk3r 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much for a theory video I can’t wait to see more. Honestly prior to watch your video I really didn't think much of the BaZa theory. But the way you explain the BaZa theory dose make sense. (tho I’m still not 100%convinced ) It does fill in some of the gaps like Gustang saying Baams father was the worst man he’s met and a lot regarding the floor of death. And in regards to Baam living inside the walls of the tower and Rachel living on the “ fake floor of death” make so much sense. Like if Rachel was really from the outside why dose has she never seen the stars why dose she act like she doesn’t know anything about anything why dose she talk about the tower like it’s a fairy tale. And Arlen calling Baam a monster make sense too since Baam is not her child but the outside god. When Garam was tell Baam about Arlens pocket she said that chid when referring to Arlens baby, cuz it’s technically not Baam. That child is dead Baam is just the outside god( or a fragment of them) using the body of Arlens dead child. So of course Arlen once she finds out would be upset and calling it a monster ( kinda like Yuras brother on the hidden floor when the big breeder took over his body). Anyways that’s all for now. I might add more if I remember to :)
@wavy_soup
@wavy_soup 3 месяца назад
This theory shocked me, it's so well done and it makes me even more hyped for the future of tower of god Also, your videos are amazing! Keep up the good work, I share your channel every chance I get
@LazyBoy215
@LazyBoy215 3 месяца назад
Banger video as always brother
@olivergacu295
@olivergacu295 3 месяца назад
I ve heard of baza theory on discord so much, but never read it or had interest in it but damn this explanation shook me! Great job brother keep digging, and be successful
@darkin1484
@darkin1484 День назад
well done. youve done a great deal of thinking and ur theories have solid base. Very nice and great job.
@rodrigosa1162
@rodrigosa1162 3 месяца назад
keep the good work, i love your videos
@nebulaaaaaa.
@nebulaaaaaa. 3 месяца назад
The goat❤ j'aime trop ton travail
@weverton3002
@weverton3002 3 месяца назад
Your channel was everything I needed about tower of god
@yung_richi3190
@yung_richi3190 2 месяца назад
Really just binged these vids from the beginning needed it desperately to remember what happened in ToG amazing content bros keep it up
@MrEnryu-bt3nk
@MrEnryu-bt3nk 2 месяца назад
Wow this blew up congrats!! Keep the contents this amazing ❤
@curtisgoldthorpe6656
@curtisgoldthorpe6656 Месяц назад
Hey man, Amazing video you have become my new go to ToG lore master. please keep up the goodwork :)
@TriadicSilver
@TriadicSilver 3 месяца назад
Maybe Arlene had an actual relationship with Jahad but when she found out she was pregnant. She knew jahad would unalive the baby so she left him and agreed to have a relationship with V as a way to save her child by tricking Jahad.
@mightynxumalo7579
@mightynxumalo7579 2 месяца назад
I just caught up with TOG these videos helped me appreciate the story and helped me with concepts that went over my head great content.
@Star_Imp
@Star_Imp Месяц назад
this was an amazing theory :D
@dennisprado6346
@dennisprado6346 3 месяца назад
😂 damn this theory is good, I watched this bc I needed something to watch while eating pizza, I do not regret it
@jorgenafagervik
@jorgenafagervik 18 дней назад
Thank you for this video! It’s my favorite fiction story for a reason, and I’m glad someone’s going in depth about all the different topics this story has to offer! Now let’s just hope that SIU’s health stays intact😅
@WatWoWen
@WatWoWen 18 дней назад
Thanks! I hope he'll stay in good form too
@willymartinez2882
@willymartinez2882 3 месяца назад
Great video keep the content 😃 i know maybe it's to much work but it would be cool if You do a Review like you did with the nest with the other arcs of tog hell train, workshop battle etc
@WatWoWen
@WatWoWen 3 месяца назад
I think I'll do it one day, but it'll be a long time from now because I think it would be more interesting to analyze the previous arcs once we've learned some big revelations, because we'll realize that some elements of the previous arcs had a double meaning, we'll be able to note the foreshadowing, we'll have a better overall view, etc. So yes, if I do any analysis of the previous arcs, it will be when we've progressed much further in the plot.
@MrEvans1
@MrEvans1 4 дня назад
Well, we know there are many towers, and many gods/ Axises outside. Maybe Jahad was sent by a faction to try and conquer this tower and failed so he blocked the path after hearing the prophecy about baam who was fated to become the god of this tower. We have also seen powers fueled by souls. What if in order to become an axis the tower gets sacrificed with all living things in it?
@MrEvans1
@MrEvans1 4 дня назад
That would be a reason for certain factions to "resist" climbing the tower, maybe is the main reason the administrators allowed jahad to make that deal and basically change how climbing the tower works.
@josegar30
@josegar30 2 месяца назад
Been years since last I read this (train arc). Thank you for the summary
@Serene0910
@Serene0910 2 месяца назад
I always laughed at the theory of bam being jahad's son but this video shook me, now I can't see anything but that possibility , you should've also covered the question scene of who's bam and it saying "he's not the promised one" tog lore is so wide and mysterious that it's always open to do many possible theories
@vincenthammons-kd9du
@vincenthammons-kd9du 2 дня назад
hes clearly not his son since jahad has blond hair
@miguelmorais6414
@miguelmorais6414 2 месяца назад
lovely theory
@deusex17kkfkdklsl19
@deusex17kkfkdklsl19 3 месяца назад
This video is very crazy and deep down in the dark side and depth of tog thanks for this video
@user-lk6wy8mz6w
@user-lk6wy8mz6w Месяц назад
Is the Tower a Deception? And is Jahad really evil or did he lock away something that was dangerous? So dangerous that he would be ruthless in preventing it from being opened? I'm beginning to wonder...
@jetstream5801
@jetstream5801 3 месяца назад
This is crazy I never noticed that Rachel is carrying a knife when she visits in the cave…
@donk8961
@donk8961 9 дней назад
The red elves and the dwarves are "blessed by the tower", perhaps predating the adventurers & jahad. Those children's stories could be arlen's retelling of events geared towards kids
@Serajiman
@Serajiman 3 месяца назад
I have a theory that Rachel is the 'Prince' of Jahad. The quote from Jaina Repellista saying "It's time for them to appear" - I don't think it's meant as the plural form of then, but a tactic by SIU to mystify the gender of the true Prince. Rachel has the same hair and eye colour as Jahad, received (for some reason) advance help from Headon upon entering the tower, and seems to be amassing broader great family support behind the scenes.
@Yummynomnom123
@Yummynomnom123 3 месяца назад
Im pretty sure Rachel and the other blonde hair kid are jhads "children" He gave rachel his ability to control events in the tower with his will and he gave Wangnan his immortality. and determination. That's how he was able to have children. That's why they say them. Also i haven't finished the vid, due to not wanting to get spoiled. I read the story once a year from the beginning and yes season 2 is called return of the prince and who is introduced in the first chapter, who is now on the rise ascending the tower unlike before where he was stuck (hiding from an outsiders point of view), yes the prince has returned and he ascending. To me its obvious but there may be things i'm missing. Also Bam couldn't take the truth maybe due to having to possibly kill his friend, because I don't think jihad is even at the top of the tower anymore, he never shows up anywhere. I think he died or split himself with creating those two his descendants inheriting his wish to climb the tower. He probably couldn't climb it for some reason. Both Wangnan and Rachel sole purpose and goal is to climb the tower Jihads' will.
@MrEvans1
@MrEvans1 4 дня назад
​@@Yummynomnom123 wasnt karaka. Wagnan's brother?
@Yummynomnom123
@Yummynomnom123 4 дня назад
@@MrEvans1 I saw a few sources that say he is and isnt. I'm a bit confused, but this might also be the reason he hides his face, his connection to jihad
@fredv7349
@fredv7349 3 месяца назад
I like this theory.
@a_maxed_out_handle_of_30_chars
@a_maxed_out_handle_of_30_chars 3 месяца назад
the video is too small :( was hooked from the start, can't wait to see what things will change with recent events and thank you :)
@the25thnight80
@the25thnight80 2 дня назад
wow my mind is kinda blown
@hey608
@hey608 3 месяца назад
I think Jahad could have killed Bam because a vision from the future. 1. Bam kill him. 2. Bam kill the love of his life Arlene. 3. The dead of all FH who are his friends (since Bam enter the tower they have mentioned he is the key of the star of the war between the FH and end of them. 4. The destruction of the tower. 5. He saw the monster that Arlene was talking about it.
@vincenthammons-kd9du
@vincenthammons-kd9du 2 дня назад
Zahard never had a shot with Arlene its pretty simple he is just a simp who can't get over being rejected
@gamerse7en560
@gamerse7en560 Месяц назад
that long arc for S2 was the Hell Train Arc dang that ones long but so good
@subzero6860
@subzero6860 2 месяца назад
didnt enryu appeared way after arlen left the tower? bec he was agry after meeting and hearing her story outside of the tower somewhere?
@joevince6066
@joevince6066 2 месяца назад
This would b epic.
@MpanzuELWik
@MpanzuELWik 3 месяца назад
GG mec je me souviens que je t'avais dit à l'époque que tu devais faire tes vids en anglais. Sérieusement t'as dû travailler dure sur ton aglais, bravo. Je te presenterais bien à Nya D. Hemmingz. Il organise des meetings entre des TOGs videastes. Ça swrait cool de te voir interagir avec eux.
@myone191000
@myone191000 2 месяца назад
Just so you know c'est une ia qui parle avec la voix de Lilian
@ireqsavagevocaldinosaur5795
@ireqsavagevocaldinosaur5795 3 месяца назад
Maybe you should change the channel name and cover art to help with views. When I found this channel, about a month back, I was like, “wait… is this a tower of god RU-vid channel???”
@WatWoWen
@WatWoWen 3 месяца назад
This will not be a tower of god youtube channel, even if for now there's only ToG videos
@malldropemoff
@malldropemoff 17 дней назад
@@WatWoWenu should put anime’s u talk about in yo banner so people know who talk about it some times
@chuchiecopergranada7964
@chuchiecopergranada7964 3 месяца назад
what's the chapter
@joevince6066
@joevince6066 2 месяца назад
My only question would b why did bam habe to teleport into thr tower through the gate?
@BlueNish12
@BlueNish12 2 месяца назад
A question. Do you think rechal is a guide for bam.
@kenshin391
@kenshin391 День назад
I'm confused why wouldn't Jahad want to continue through the tower if he was already the strongest unless Enryu or Phantaminum are on the next floor and he knew that?
@calvinwilson3617
@calvinwilson3617 2 месяца назад
For those not aware, Baam in korean means "Night", in the japanese dub he is actually called Yoru (also night)
@AsuraHearts
@AsuraHearts 2 месяца назад
The current chapter of tower of god going crazy rn
@TheLastCrow5150
@TheLastCrow5150 2 месяца назад
And then there's Phantaminum who's an Axis... I get a feeling he's used as SIU's persona in the story since they literally play the same role. The amount of Bible references is insane. TOG parallels the Bible everywhere. There's a lot to the puzzle. Like Rachel; how does she fit in?
@xgerra16
@xgerra16 3 месяца назад
The more Seasons of the anime will come the more lore-hungry people there will be. Remember this is the lowest your channel and Tower of God community will be! It’s only up from here!
@VitanovaFR
@VitanovaFR 3 месяца назад
Je sais pas si tu te rends compte à quel point il y a un désert de contenu intéressant ToG à part votre bande .. j'ai binge ton contenu et maintenant j'ai plus rien a regarder lol alors je me refais les vids en anglais. Merci et bon weekend de pacques
@AbijonBrown
@AbijonBrown 3 месяца назад
Next part
@jimenez2403
@jimenez2403 Месяц назад
I have a theory that rachel is a true princess of jahad and resents bam for being a love child as opposed to seeing her own life as a mistake.
@malldropemoff
@malldropemoff 17 дней назад
is this shit still on going ?
@MrEvans1
@MrEvans1 4 дня назад
The whole point of rachel is that she is a total average person.
@amrovine4029
@amrovine4029 3 месяца назад
First off i want to say that I really love your content but i don't think this theory makes sense narratively speaking, i mean the core of course that bam is Zahard's son but i agree with alot of the surrounding details, like the second half of the theory which is really interesting, and the fact that V did not just kill himself The reason i disagree is because i believe the prince of Zahard is wangnan and the other Zahard look alikes, wangnan looks like Zahard, he seems to be immortal and he was referred to as "the seed of the king" on the hell train, and the fact that Wangnan has a ring with the Zahard symbol on it, also there's another very strong piece of evidence that suggests that wangnan, karaka & "the boss" are the prince of Zahard in the most recent Korean chapters but i don't want to spoil I think the basis of this theory about Garam's & Gustang's conversations with baam are very weak, there's a ton of possibilities as to why Gustang would refer to 'v' as the worst or about garam not telling baam the full story, i personally don't see any piece of evidence here Also how come baam is way weaker physically than endorsi who is only strong physically because she has some of Zahard's blood in her There's also the name that was given to baam by F.U.G. (Jue Viole Grace) which I'm theorising is his real name which means he was named after his father and as we all know 'V' is just an affectionate name given by arlene
@chinarvartak4738
@chinarvartak4738 3 месяца назад
Well... His theory is just that... A theory... Also I agree with you... There are a few fundamental holes in this theory...
@deusex17kkfkdklsl19
@deusex17kkfkdklsl19 3 месяца назад
For baam being weak physically is just maybe he inherited much of his mother than his dad , can add outside god modified the whole body of baam is very possible
@amrovine4029
@amrovine4029 3 месяца назад
@@chinarvartak4738 well yeah, we're allowed to disagree with theories right? He himself said this at the end
@amrovine4029
@amrovine4029 3 месяца назад
@@deusex17kkfkdklsl19 I don't think so
@chinarvartak4738
@chinarvartak4738 3 месяца назад
@@amrovine4029 yeah we are allowed to...
@Thugiz
@Thugiz Месяц назад
the captain/boss mentioned when talking about bam that he was from a noble bloodline and who else on the tower has a noble blood yep...
@Daniel-Adanri
@Daniel-Adanri 3 месяца назад
Plot twits jahad saw a monster (god) who could destroy the tower.
@aintpace
@aintpace 3 месяца назад
love the ff7 music to this
@essamabumaruozk8358
@essamabumaruozk8358 3 месяца назад
Now I have more questions ❓😂😂😂
@MrEvans1
@MrEvans1 4 дня назад
29:26 the flaw of this theory is that you cant be an irregular if you were born in the tower, you need to be an "outsider". Also how can he open the door and "enter the tower" if he was on the 43th floor😂
@deusex17kkfkdklsl19
@deusex17kkfkdklsl19 4 дня назад
He said rachel was but you had road from 43th floor to the cave and the cave is well between outside and inside the tower .
@leafdragoon8551
@leafdragoon8551 3 месяца назад
Personally I think the person on the radio is actually Headon since Macseth using a radio because he's old-fashioned doesn't make sense when he is the head of the Workshop that creates advanced technology. Also the person on the radio refers to the Workshop as if they themself aren't part of it.
@mickaelberte5144
@mickaelberte5144 3 месяца назад
Not all scientific love new technology like einstein was hating new technology even if helped to create them same was pascal and many other . Sometimes these guys love old reliable techno over new techno Add the guy on radio said to gustang ( something similar i gave you the key to make this event ) masceth would'nt let headon or gustang make a workshop event without him knowing it .
@grimbolt3984
@grimbolt3984 3 месяца назад
Already saw the original one in french, but still the video was to good not to see it again
@carledouard5428
@carledouard5428 Месяц назад
What if it’s for the prince’s to acquire the 13 months series. Jahad made it that they need each other to unlock the gates anyway but what if it’s for the princess to be strong enough to look for the prince of jahad and work together for the prince to wield all since the princess can’t.
@joshherbert3561
@joshherbert3561 3 месяца назад
iv been reading since the flooe of test ok. i have re read TOG SOOOO many times. But this just made it ALLLLL Click wtf
@himanshusolanki3274
@himanshusolanki3274 3 месяца назад
I dont know but currently why bam is not using his full power and everything he has got in latest chapter
@deusex17kkfkdklsl19
@deusex17kkfkdklsl19 3 месяца назад
Stop to spoil add he used his full power man Not going to describe these scene and power but he used his full power
@kallachad3340
@kallachad3340 2 месяца назад
I really like this theory but if true I wonder why Bam didn’t inherit the high physical abilities that the princesses have.
@oussamabzize5315
@oussamabzize5315 2 месяца назад
What if baam's mother used the blood of zahaad with others stuff to resurrect baam after arlene was very powerful in magic
@damenjitrajvansi1889
@damenjitrajvansi1889 2 месяца назад
Can you make the vid fully in english as in the comic😭😭
@9Gorgeous
@9Gorgeous День назад
Loves this theory but latest chapter ehhh
@nabinoorshahil2715
@nabinoorshahil2715 3 месяца назад
Although I think most of this theory is great I disagree with one aspect which is that I don't think Bam killed his mother. Even without Shinshu an irregular should still have a super human body. We saw this with Urek and even ordinary rankers have incredible bodies without Shinshu. The high Shinshu density of the upper floors strengthens their natural bodies to a super human extent. Although I don't think Arlen is physically as strong as the other irregulars as she seems like a spell caster but even so I can't imagine Bam devouring her as a baby. If she is dead I think she might have sacrificed her life and to the god of the outside in exchange for breathing life into Bam. A life for a life type of situation. Well even if Bam killed his own mother I think it is still important to highlight the fact that an irregular who has reached the top of the tower will always be super human even without Shinshu. In fact I think even the less physical irregulars would be capable of defeating rankers even without their Shinshu.
@Rios101
@Rios101 2 месяца назад
Is zahaad evil???
@ronnealjr
@ronnealjr 2 месяца назад
What if the conditions of Jahads immortality are that he can’t have children? Blood matter has a condition, so maybe that the only one we know of now. Maybe anyone with immortality has a condition of it, that would make sense. Or that he can’t climb anymore? It usually require ms a big sacrifice. Just throwing this out there
@MrEvans1
@MrEvans1 4 дня назад
For sure, like that family leader who is immortal by stealing lifespan from his children.
@ZanukaV
@ZanukaV 3 месяца назад
good vid bro, but you should use english references if you make an english video
@1gnorantlizard733
@1gnorantlizard733 3 месяца назад
Great theory, lowkey but highkey, because I am commenting it, I am slightly worried that I just got spoiled. Mainly because I hate Rachel and I don't want to have to sympathize in the slightest like this theory being true would make me.
@Not____Applicable
@Not____Applicable 3 месяца назад
You know, I actually thought this entire time Baam did look like V it’s just that he only looks like him when he had long hair and SIU showed us the back of V in that one quick flashback of the original climbers of the tower of Icarus supposedly having an admiration of what looked like to be V. Having had that same back view of Baam with the same length of long hair in season 2, it made complete sense that he was Vs son but I just realized we have only ever seen the back of V the entire story. That fact alone could very well be bait setting up for a twist later on that Baam is indeed Jahads son. This video has now made me rethink all the events of season 2 lol. Very good theory.
@user-bp2pm7ck2u
@user-bp2pm7ck2u 10 дней назад
You just combined two different theories and made them one theory. There are some reason's bam is not jahad's son 1) gustang said to bam your father was the worst person I have ever meet. But jahad is alive why would he use 'was' if he is not dead 2) siu in a blog post said bam and Rachel are link to the mysteries outside the tower and prince of jahad is a character who is linked with the mysteries inside the tower 3) and the person talking to gustang in the radio asked who is the real prince of jahad. Because he and gustang both doesn't know who the real prince is so that's why gustang didn't help wangnan. Because he doesn't knew he is the prince
@leandroleao3938
@leandroleao3938 2 месяца назад
I think that sometimes "tower of god" could actually be the tower that would create a god, taking into account that the king of artificial creation said that she itself cannot create a god, so the tower could be nothing more than one of several experiments to create a god, and the irregulars are technically the only really real humans, not created by the king of artificial creation, and the headon is like an administrator so that the test proceeds in the correct way, and so with the one who arrives at the at the end of the tower, you can have everything you want, as you have become a god and can do anything, both creating and destroying the entire universe, something a bit like the tale of Ragnarok
@leandroleao3938
@leandroleao3938 2 месяца назад
and so enryu could be one of those responsible for taking care of the project, for example, it would explain the difference in time inside and outside the tower, and phantaminun could have entered the tower to see this candidate for god, coming across zahard and seeing that he was not big deal, since the real protagonist of the story is Baam. The outside world seems to be one of constant struggle with unimaginable powers, and sometimes the dream of someone very powerful is to test the limits of the powers they possess, which could lead to the complete destruction and recreation of the universe, something that we can refer to ourselves with all these weapons of mass destruction that we created.
@Celestial-rn4vm
@Celestial-rn4vm 2 месяца назад
I'm new to the Tower of God community, so I'm not sure if this is widely known, but it seems quite evident to me. Bam was born on the 25th night, the same night as Jesus Christ, who is believed to be the Son of God and possesses some of His power. This leads me to believe that Bam is being paralleled with Jesus. Moreover, Jesus Christ was born in either a stable or a cave, depending on the version of the story. His parents, Joseph and Mary, traveled to Bethlehem for a census while Mary was pregnant. They stayed in either a cave or a stable in Bethlehem. However, it's important to note that Joseph is not Jesus' biological father; Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, making Mary a virgin mother. So we have a cave and a child who is connected to God. Whether the author intended Zahard to be the father of Bam, who referred to as a god by tower inhabitants, or an actual God being his father, is open to debate. Both interpretations could fit. If Bam is indeed the son of a god and not of V, it could make sense for Zahard to want to kill him, as Bam would be considered the offspring of a deity. In a more vague sense, a wise man found Jesus guided by stars, seeking the newborn king, who is Jesus. Stars played a significant role in this narrative. This could suggest a parallel between Bam and Zahard, as Zahard is the king of the tower. Interestingly, there is a Rachel mentioned in Bethlehem, the exact same place where Jesus was born, but she is the wife of a man named Jacob. These two are the parents of Joseph, who is the father of Jesus. Additionally, Joseph was one of the twelve children who represented the twelve tribes of Israel, exactly where the tower of Babel is located. This might be a reference to the twelve warriors from Tower of God. The Tower of Babel is a familiar story. Located in Israel, the same land where Jesus was born and where his ancestor King David ruled, it is said to have been built to reach heaven after a great flood. However, God intervened by causing people to speak different languages, halting the construction of the tower. This aspect of the story resonates with the concept in Tower of God where a device is needed to understand each other, and the climb up the tower eventually becomes impossible, much like the Tower of Babel's halted construction. Although I'm not entirely sure about the story's themes, it strongly appears that Tower of God draws inspiration from Israel and the Tower of Babel.
@chad63
@chad63 Месяц назад
yeah, well creators tend to copy existing famous stories from the real world and oda is especially notorious for this. i kind of hate this because originality is questioned. they are just copying different existing stories and meshing them up together and saying its original lol
@mickaelberte5144
@mickaelberte5144 16 дней назад
​@@chad63inspiration do not mean copy
@chad63
@chad63 16 дней назад
@@mickaelberte5144 inspiration is the less pirating meaning of copy lol
@MrEvans1
@MrEvans1 4 дня назад
Jahad is the emperor , but compared to the bible he wasnt murdering all babies😅
@chad63
@chad63 4 дня назад
​@@MrEvans1​guess what?
@sonpacho
@sonpacho 2 месяца назад
I have a (slightly) different theory. I don't think you went back far enough with the unreliable narrator. Anne/pocket were both in Jahad's custody. Garam says Jahad 'destroyed' all signs/symbols of Arlene *and* altered/erased information found in pockets/etc. How did Anne get Arlene's diary? It's strongly implied that Jahad was the last person to see Arlene alive, so how did her diary end up with Anne? She 'found' it? Really? How did Garam get the diary? According to her, she had to fight through Jahad's forces to get it. Is it really believable Jahad allowed something, allegedly, as important as that to be stolen? I don't think anything from the diary should be trusted. I think it's all a story. The "Tower" is like...the world from Log Horizon. It's an isekai world that creates its' own stories. It's possible, everything that has happened since Bam spoke with the Administrator on the Floor of Test has been a test. Both Headon and the Administrator implied that the Tower creates tests worthy of the one taking it. Everything that has happened since then could be part of a test for Bam. "Irregulars," or people from the real world, are the protagonists/antagonists of the Tower's stories. Based on the "real" people that have entered the Tower various 'stories' have been _created_ from different genres - Sci/Fi, Fantasy, etc. This is why there're so many different types of characters. However, there's a trick. I think it's like the myth about being stuck in the land of the dead if you eat the fruit of the trees. I can't remember the exact myth, but it's something like that. Also, once you enter the Tower you can't leave until you reach the top. The God of Guardians was worried Bam might lose to his inner demon and 'change' like Jahad did. I think (original) Jahad lost to his inner demon and became the character/role "King" in a new story the Tower created. The Tower, using Shinsu, can _create_ reality. The 'stories' brought in by real people (Irregulars) become the reality of the Tower. The "Regulars," for all intents and purposes are NPC's but also _real_ people living in these stories. However, when Jahad accepted his new role the change wasn't immediate. Jahad/et al realized what was happening and tried to fight against it. They needed to replace the "King." First, they tried the traditional way through regular childbirths but that failed. Next it was the Princess project, another failure. Then they tried to give the Princesses ignition weapons which also failed. I think what they [Jahad, Arlene, Gustang, etc] realized is they needed an Irregular. This is also why I think Urek won't kill Jahad, if he does he knows he will become stuck as the new "King." I think that's also the reason he tells Bam to be himself and make his own decisions - he knows what they want to use him for. After failing with the Princesses and being rejected by Urek I think they decided to create their own Irregular - Bam. All of the arcs/plots leading up to the battle at the wall had one thing in common - creating life. They were different aspects of one big project. Beta/Horyang (ignigion weapons) taught them of the existence/potential for using souls. The Data World was another experiment. It provided a place to test how transferring memories/souls would work, since Jahad/et al left 'data' copies of themselves. Who taught White his spells to manipulate souls? I think it was Arlene. I think it was just a test to see how strong someone could become and what all could be done. Using all of the knowledge they gained from the different experiments they created an Irregular Ignition Weapon - Bam. The 'story' being told is, basically, the common story of 'the hero killing the evil king.' David vs Goliath, etc. The Family Leaders (FL) knew they were going to change so they took steps to make sure Bam would be able to kill the "King." For example, hiding their memories and leaving clues in the Data World. In addition to the memories/clues, I think they [FL's] used clones, for lack of a better term, to inject themselves into the story since the rules of the Tower generally prohibit them from interfering. Wangnan/the Boss are 'clones' of Jahad and Rachel is a clone of Arlene. "Clones" isn't the best way to describe them. I think they [Rachel/Wangnan] are unique individuals created in the image of 'gods' with _aspects_ of the 'gods' who created them. Wangnan seems to have the same personality as Data Jahad - adventurous, leadership and a willingness to help others. I think he was meant to help Bam accomplish his goal. Although Arlene isn't Bam's _biological_ mother I think she viewed him as her "child" like mad scientist characters view their crazy (usually dangerous) inventions as their 'children.' She genuinely wanted to see him be successful (killing Jahad) so her [Rachel's] feelings of wanting to take care of Bam are real. I also think Arlene was ambitious, determined and probably selfish too. Rachel also inherited these qualities, but they didn't manifest in a positive way. The cave looks similar to the place where Rachel was hidden by Headon. I think the cave was a space created by Jahad/Arlene to hide Bam from the "King." I think a related point is that the symbol of the Three Eyes is in the cave, the symbol of "Jahad," is worn by Data Jahad but not by King Jahad. This, in my opinion, they could be two different people/personalities. There is no prophecy and FUG is fake. The prophecy and FUG fighting 'King' Jahad is nothing but background story/lore for the main story: the hero killing/replacing the evil King. It's real life for the Regulars living it but the whole situation, in my theory, has been manipulated by the FL's to provide motivation/etc for Bam to kill King Jahad. The only 'weapon' they could create powerful enough to kill the King happens to have a free will of its' own. They knew the only way they could get it to do what they want is to create a world so messed up, the weapon would willingly choose to kill the King. Other Irregulars (Enryu/Phantaminum) helped them by coming back down to lower floors and creating 'events' that would be remembered and talked about for years. I also think Enryu killed the Administrator on the Floor of Death to use as materials to create Bam. The Regulars, and maybe some Administrators, of the Tower wish for the overthrow of the evil King who has hurt so many while the FL's want the King to die so they can be freed and continue climbing the Tower to eventually escape. Final thought, I think Rachel is going to break the story. She's going to end up killing King Jahad (something she shouldn't be able to do) thinking it will be the best way to prove she's better than everyone else (Khun). However, the only thing she's going to get is loneliness. Just like her dream when she sees Bam/his friends leaving her all alone and the warning Endorsi gave her about losing what's really important chasing 'the stars' she's going to get what she wants but be completely alone. That's my theory. I could say more, but I'll end it here.
@peak_fiction925
@peak_fiction925 2 месяца назад
Is god of the outside the sun ☀️?🤔
@MrEvans1
@MrEvans1 4 дня назад
There are many gods, called Axis. I guess baam was fated to climb this tower and become a new god
@danizelikman1688
@danizelikman1688 Месяц назад
Data eduan called bam son of v
@WatWoWen
@WatWoWen Месяц назад
Because Hansung Yu tell him that he's the son of V, like I said in the video
@TheStefanita99
@TheStefanita99 День назад
My theory is that Baam is the reincarnation of the original owner of the tower before Jahad, I don't remember the exact chapter but i know while in the hell train, Khun father told Rak that he is from the species that lives and ruled the tower before Jahad conquest, had me thinking, what if after Jahad defeated the current God of the tower, this entity choose Baam to take revenge on him? Makes sense if you think about it, Baam being the son of the only women Jahad loved. Baam currently has a lot of entities inside him, what if he has one since the beggining? Also i think the answers to everything that happend with Baam family will come from himself, everyone will lie to him but for sure at some point we will have a moment inside his mind (kinda how Naruto goes to talk to Kurama and meet Minato) and he will probably have a talk with all the Monsters he consumed and they will tell him the truth about what happend and what is actually the Tower Of God about. I hope someone sees this and tell me what they think about it :D. Have a good day guys, Cheers!
@TheStefanita99
@TheStefanita99 День назад
Also, another theory i have regarding why Jahad choose to close the tower. What if there are multiple towers? SIU could keep the story forever with the world building he already done. I can see this story go past Jahad arc very easily, what made Jahad so scared that he decided to end it all? For sure he saw something even greater then he is.
@anialator1000000
@anialator1000000 2 месяца назад
Baam being Jahads son just explains a whole lot. We know a bunch of the history is indeed from an an unreliable narrator, based on the fact that much of it is 2nd or 3rd hand information. But there is undoubtedly truth in most of it, and misunderstandings or lies being branded as truth for most of the rest. But the biggest piece of evidence seems to be V's death. Why would the story be that he committed suicide and left that letter telling Arlene to go back to their old friends? The idea that he did it for that reason makes no real sense. Why would he think they would forgive her for the war so easily? Its just illogical on its own. Rather, there seems to be 2 much more reasonable explanations 1) V was murdered and the letter is fake. Jahad is willing to force forgiveness if Arlene returns and believes V is the thing keeping her away, so he Kills V and forges the note (or forces V to write it and then kills him) in hopes it will end the war and help him get with her. Maybe V writes it in hopes that Jahad is telling him the truth in that Arlene will be forgiven if he dies. This at least explains V's death more realistically, but it doesn't explain anything else. 2) Baam is Jahads son, likely by some forceful means, maybe including high drunk. Arlene convinces everyone he is V's son (explain why almost everyone thinks he is V's son except a few who learn the truth or could figure it out like Gustang), but V is suspicious and coaxes the truth out of her. But in her shame, she doesn't give the full story properly, and V doesn't fully believe it to be unwanted. This explains why he thinks she could be let back into the group, He thinks she does actually love Jahad, and they could work something out if V was out of the way, and this realization and depression leads him to kill himself before Arlene even knows its going to happen to stop it. This not only explains why V killed himself in a more reasonable way and the logic behind the message, but then it also offers the reason why Arlene abused Baam by locking him away in the cave. It planted the seed of hatred of Baam in her heart, since he is effectively the cause of V's death in her mind. When she goes mad after Baam's death, it sprouts, and she no longer really cares about him while mad, which is why she doesn't mind the torture she puts him through in the Cave and calls him a monster. He isn't her son anymore, he is the thing that Killed V and is the key to killing Jahad.
@malektheone1017
@malektheone1017 3 месяца назад
You're french
@deusex17kkfkdklsl19
@deusex17kkfkdklsl19 3 месяца назад
And ?
@malektheone1017
@malektheone1017 3 месяца назад
@@deusex17kkfkdklsl19 i don't like em
@symeon5518
@symeon5518 3 месяца назад
Why would you insult him?
@wilmaso
@wilmaso 3 месяца назад
​@symeon5518 lol bruh how is that an insult? It's the accent that makes it obvious.
@myone191000
@myone191000 2 месяца назад
​@@wilmasoit's an ia :>
@user-bp2pm7ck2u
@user-bp2pm7ck2u 8 дней назад
Your theory doesn't make sense why would jahad kill his own son
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