Actual phrases go: "For the night is dark and full of terrors, but the fire burns them all away" and: "What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger". The show removed those parts for some reason...
I like the Dothraki beliefs “sure, all yalls gods might exist I won’t fight you on that. But there IS a horse god too” I’m agnostic but imma start telling anyone who asks me what I believe that exact same thing
This was actually how the Roman’s viewed it as well. They believed other gods like the Celtic and Germanic gods were real and even sometimes brought them into there own
That's my view. My mom's devout Irish Catholic and she's fine with the fact that I'm pagan because I don't deny that her God exists (as much as any other gods do). Both my mom and I like to point out the Bible says "Thou shall have no gods before me" not that there are no other gods lol.
Most of religions in the world of asoiaf: Magic, visions, body swap, krakens, deep sea lovercraftian horrors, useful charms and spells Faith of the Seven: *We dont do that here*
@@CSPaffy Maiden/Mother/Crone or the Triple Goddess is a neopagan deity. She represents the cycle of life and in some Wicca beliefs her male consort is the Horned God, but in the Faith of the Seven she is matched by Warrior/Father/Smith + the Stranger (Death) to form the full life cycle of the God of Seven.
@@pavishankar8021 Valyria was an advanced Society, maybe at the start of some kinda reinasseance of their own, they knew magic and gods were separated thing so no fear could be felt
List below are rest of the religions mainly in Essos * Aquan the Red Bull, whose priests sacrifice calves. * Bakkalon of the Sword, the Pale Child favored of soldiers * the Black Goat, a deity worshiped in Qohor. * the Great Shepherd, the deity of the Lhazareen. * the Hooded Wayfarer, a patron of the poor. * the Lady of Spears, the deity of the Unsullied. * the Merling King, a deity worshiped by sailors. * the Moon-Pale Maiden, another deity worshiped by sailors. * the Pattern, a labyrinth leading to wisdom. * Semosh and Selloso, brother gods with twin temples. * the Silent God, who is worshiped at the Stones of the Silent God. * the Stone Cow of Faros, a deity worshiped on Faros. * Trios, a three-headed deity. * the Weeping Lady of Lys, a favorite of old women. * Father of Waters, His temple on the Isle of the Gods is rebuilt anew whenever the Father takes a new bride each year on his feast days. * Pantera, a six-breasted cat goddess of Lys. * Yndros of the Twilight, who is male by day and female by night. * Saagael, the giver of pain, known as faceless Saagael. * Maiden-Made-of-Light, a goddess in Yi Ti. * The Church of Starry Wisdom, also known as the Cult of Starry Wisdom, is a sinister religion that persists in many port cities throughout the known world. * The Moon Mother, a deity mentioned to Arya Stark by the Kindly man. * Mother Rhoyne and her associated lesser gods are still worshiped in Essos by orphans of the Greenblood who have returned to the river Rhoyne, and there also seem to be descendants of the Rhoynar still living around the river, who still tell the stories associated with the religion. Unnamed religions include: * A small household idol which looked like a pregnant woman with swollen breasts and a bat's head. * The Gardens of Gelenei is a temple on the Isle of the Gods in Braavos, Gelenei may possibly be the name of the god or goddess worshiped there but this not confirmed. * The love goddess of Lys, whose naked figure is on Lysene coinage; it is at present unknown if she is the same as the Weeping Lady of Lys. * The Fountain of the Drunken God may or may not be dedicated to a god. * The many gods honoured in the Holy Refuge also called The Warren, it is a temple in Braavos, within it the forgotten gods are honoured. * The Dothraki believe that the Sun and the Moon are a god and goddess and that they are husband and wife. * The Temple of Memory is a temple in Qarth where petitioners seeking audience with the Pureborn must perform a traditional sacrifice. It is unknown which god or gods are worshiped there. * The god of the Bearded priests of Norvos who's name is unknown, because the sect is so secretive the name of their god is revealed only to initiates. * The hundred gods of the Sarnori, who since the Century of Blood are only worshiped in the city of Saath. * In the ancient (now lost) city of Lyber on the grasslands of Central Essos they worshipped a spider goddess, as well as a serpent god, the acolytes of the two gods waged a bloody and endless war between one another. Other regions * On they Isle of Naath off the northwestern coast of Sothoryos, they worship the Lord of Harmony. There is also a wooden hall dedicated to the god in Braavos. * In Leng there are they Old Ones, gods who live deep below the ruined subterranean cities on the island and who instructed the God-Empress on at least four occasions to massacre all foreigners. * The God-Empress is worshiped in Leng. * In the Summer Isles they worship a score of gods whose many laws are written upon the Talking Trees, the god and goddess of love, beauty, and fertility being the most favoured. * On the Isle of Toads in the Basilisk Isles there is an ancient idol, a greasy black stone crudely carved into the semblance of a gigantic toad of malignant aspect, some forty feet high. * The corsairs of the Basilisk Isles offer the skulls of their victims to a dark god on Skull Island. * In Sothoryos the Sothoryi, often called the Brindled Men, worship dark gods with obscene rites. * The Jogos Nhai worship several gods. * The dark and hungry gods of the Patrimony of Hyrkoon are still worshiped in the cities of the Bone Mountains. * The gods of Ibben. * The gods of the Thousand Islands, squamous, fish-headed gods, whose likenesses rise from their stony shores, visible only when the tide recedes. * In Slaver's Bay the Ghiscari still worship the gods of Ghis, with Graces as their priestesses.
You forgot to mention that the faith only made the exception to the targs because Maegor the Cruel started a holy war against the faith when they tried to tell him incest was an abomination
I love that every religion in Westeros has manifested itself beyond human comprehension one way or another... Except for the Faith of the Seven, the most popular one. LOL
When the First Man killed Childern of the Forest, believers of Old Gods dropped. Then the White Walkers came. The First Man took religion of Old Gods as believers in agreement with the Childern, and that belief is what won against to Long Night. Now there are almost no believers of Old Gods at the start of Ice and Fire storyline and the Long Night is coming again.
you know that the white walkers came, because the children of the forest created them after loosing the fight against the first man. But they lost controle over them so they made an alliance with the first man to stop the white walkers. It had to do less with the number of believers, but rather number of living vs. dead.
@@adamryan977 alliance of Childern and First man never happened. Old Nan has the wrong facts as per G.R.R.M. All man have wrong facts of what happened. He compered it to Tower of Babel or the flood.
@@xxkanezxx6903 I doubt George R.R martin would have let them strive that far from his own story to made up their own origin story of the white walkers. On the other hand i doubt George has any idea how his books will end and will never finish his books 😞
Makes me wonder why The Old Valyrian Gods abandoned the people of Valyria and the continent as a whole. What unforgivable sin was done to invoke their wrath?
@@AnnaBellaChannel in what context? because dragon riding was a practice for a while and gods didn't care so they must have started riding them in some other way
@@AnnaBellaChannel Nettles, a common girl, and Sheep Stealer disproves this. Non-Valyrians can ride dragons if they are careful, patient, lucky, and ballsy as hell.
There are several indications that say some of these deities are real mainly the ones they showed like Rillor and the old gods yes you can say it’s just magic ok but can you prove that no deities exist? No me personally if i lived in the world of Game of thrones and worshiped rillor and received visions from the flames and brought back the dead I’ll probably believe too
Relating to your comment about wanting a show about Valyria, I would love to see a show about Nymeria and the Rhoynar. We would see the Rhoynar and Valyria at their height, then places like Naath, the Summer Isles and Sothoryos that are pretty minimally explored, and finally seeing pre Targaryan Westeros for the first time.
Those would be awesome to see! George recently revealed that the Ten Thousand Ships prequel revolving around Nymeria has been revived so that is very exciting!
@@yasminadavis9986 It’s been a long while so I don’t really remember everything’s placement in the timeline, but if that’s the case I’m hoping we get anything from Sarnor.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="213">3:33</a> there are very wacky elements of ALL religions (even real world ones) when you get the the fanatical side of things.
I read a comment under the Jon Snow resurrection clip here on RU-vid that tells a very interesting yet terrifying fact: when Melisandre asks Jon what he saw after he died he responds “nothing” (insert mandatory Jon Snow joke here) thats actually horrible, we know that (some) gods exist in the ASOIAF universe and they care so little about humans that there is no reward or punishment in the afterlife. All your struggles, your actions, your choiches are completelly, utterly meaningless.
My only gripe with this comment is the subject matter; Jon Snow. I don't see why he would've been given an afterlife when he didn't really have any God, and I just don't see the Old Gods giving him one cause he wasn't part of the Children along with any of the human followers.
Your choices aren't meaningless just ebcause there isn't an after life. Your choices impact you in this very life and the life of others, specially in GoT, where the actions of the ones we follow through the narrative are very important. I think it can be comforting knowing you won't have an eternal life, which is a lot more time than we can grasp. We should be present in the moment and choose our actions based on our values and what we want for us and the world, not because we want to have a warm spot in the after life.
@sarahrose410 Reminds me of Gnosticism. Gnostics were an early heretical sect of Christianity who believed that the physical world was created by the Demiurge (devil) who they identify as the God in the Old Testament. They believe the real God is Jesus Christ. Gnostics are considered heretics by all other Christians for obvious reasons.
Yeah, but Zoroastrianism was historically more tolerant than that. This is not to say that there was no opposition to other religions, it's that it's not as extreme as christianity, for example.
I just have to say, I like the information and the delivery but I had to stop watching two minutes in because the shaking images and text were unbearable. I hope you make a new version with static images, because I'd still love to watch this video.
Constant swaying images made me dizzy, I understand you want something moving on the screen but the still images is more than enough for this great content, thanks for putting this together
Good material! I personally don't mind the moving images, but it's probably a good idea to find something else to keep it dynamic. Good job, enjoyed the knowledge.
I really like the Old Gods of Westeros ; it is a quiet religion, which does not demand crazy things from the believers, it is close to nature, it is not about fanaticism or apocalyptic messages or '' us versus them'' - instead, it sort of preaches the unity of all beings that live in the same world; everything is part of a broader whole. Plus, no elaborate rites or prayers there. I have to say, I am not into religion as a concept in general. Perhaps that' s why I would prefer something more realistic and simple over beliefs that remind me of the world that we currently live in.
Lord of Light has a LOT of parallels to Manichaeism, except Manichaeans were not supposed to take the initiative into their own hands and fight for whatever prophetic visions their Religion had: Doing so is actually a trick cast by the Prince of Darkness meant to keep your inner light within his Realm. You have to pretty much embrace pacifism akin to Jains in order to finally release your Light.
And that's why Manichaeism went extinct so soon and so long ago. Also look into the Shakers, a Christian sect that was popular in the US. They required celibacy of adherents. They slowly went essentially extinct.
Hey Jaydone. Just wanted to say it’s cool what you’re doing with original content and I think you have the potential to go far. Keep up the great work!
You failed to mention the sacrifices made in front of the Weirwood trees to the old gods. This is seen in the books when Bran feels the tree roots drink the blood of the victim. You also failed to mention Azor Ahai in the Lord of Light segment. He was a champion of the Lord of Light previously. Again, you leave out the fact that the Many-Faced God is the deity of the poor, down and down-trodden. They seek the Many-Faced God at the House of Black and White not only for peace but also justice.
@@missym877 referring to the title isn't enough when breaking down the religion. This whole video was very lackluster. As someone who is a bit fan of this series, it's upsetting to see this kind of omission.
@@RockChick63174 I've actually been considering it since this is the quality being put out there. Also we are not entitled being fans...we are passionate about the source material. If you can't handle it, make a video explaining just that :)
I think the Dothraki religion says the earth will come to an end when the grass is all white which sounds like if the dark night came to pass and the ground would be covered in snow by white walkers
It's actually a misconception that the Andals conquered the entirety of Westeros. They only conquered the Vale and the Riverlands. The Reach, Stormlands, Dorne and the Stormlands were never conquered by the Andals and were continued to be ruled by First Men Kings, until the Rhoynar arrived and took Dorne. The Riverlands were also subsequently conquered by the Durrandon kings which was a First Men house followed by being conquered by the Iron Islands. They did integrate into society in those kingdoms as well and create their own houses but it was more so Andal warlords taking certain regions before subsequently swearing fealty to the First Men kings and intermarrying with them. Most Westerosi are probably of First Men originally with the Vale having the highest concentration of Andal Ancestry. Even with that considered most major houses in Westeros are of First Men origin who subsequently intermarried with the Andals and converted to the Faith of the Seven. Even the Riverlands has mostly First Men houses and the Vale does have a good number of them though I am not sure if it is the majority or not. What sets the North apart is that absolutely no Andal house made it North of the neck and the First Men culture is more intact.
I hoped that Lord of Light and Greatest Other get more weight in the plot as their presence is the most felt in the plot. There are working magic by red priests and clearly dead guys from behind the wall connected to greatest other, so this seems like most realistic religion in the story (also many faced guy, he looks pretty effective). Also yeah, there are many connections between these beliefs. Hope to see more in the future
I like how most of these have some vague resemblance to real world religions without being exact copies...but than the Lord of Light religion is literally just Zoroastrianism.😂
Here are all of the Religions that I could think of that Jaydone did not include, there might be more that i dont know about in places like yi ti or ashi Three Daughters Trios Weeping Lady Princley Arbiter Lady of the Waves Cold Gods Mother Rhoyne House of the Undying Ghisgari Pagan Bronze Gods (Dead Religion) Faith of the Eight (Dead Religion) Darkwaterrite (Dead Religion) Storm God (Dead Religion) Bearded God (Dead Religion)
While in the show the drowning and thereafter "resurrecting" (CPR) of the victim is used as a ceremony to crown a king, in the book it is far more widespread and a common practice for those devout to the drowned god.
I heavily prefer this style of video editing, and hope it continues. It's easy information to listen too and the visuals just make everything more memorable.
It's kind of funny how obviously Zoroastrian the Lord of Light religion is. Zoroastrians believe that there will be three future saviors or Saoshyants who will destroy all the evil in the world, which lines up with the whole dragon has three heads thing.
Great video as always. I feel the the Ghiscari gods/religion deserve a shout out. The show didn't really dive into it but i feel like the Harpy's and all the people giving Dany shit in Mereen were all following that religion
Really great video and really well explained! I know others have mentioned, but keep the pictures still lmao If you want em to move to keep it dynamic or interesting, id suggest just a simple pan or zoom on a full screen image
Religion is one of the things Game of Thrones does best! I can think of no other franchise that has so many different well-thought out fictional religions. Maybe Dungeons & Dragons and Warcraft also have interesting and diverse religions, but still, GoT does it best and is one of the ways it is actually better than Lord of the Rings.
@@jaydonefilms If you do talk about the Maiden-Made-of-Light! Its a major religion in Essos, specifically Yi-Ti and you can definetely introduce the cool lore about how it relates to Chinese Philosophy and also you can bring up how it talks about the Long Night. Overall I think although the show never shows these religions I definetely think you should talk about them as they are still very interesting.
Man you might want to second guess adding paralaxing, or whatever effect is the slight shaking of the photos. Most things never bother me but hat gave me crazy motion sickness
NGL it would be cool if we got actually like a mythology about those Westeros gods and present maybe them as annunnaki or something like this. It would be a cool thing.
And to what religion do the naked crowned women with winga statues in slavers bay belong? We see these everywhere in the show in the 3 main cities there.
There is definitely more than the ones you mentioned you left many religions out like the lion of the night, the pale child, the black goat, the shepherd, the old ones and many others
@@axolotl1777 Here are all of the Religions that I could think of there might be more that i dont know about in places like yi ti or ashi Three Daughters Trios Weeping Lady Princley Arbiter Lady of the Waves Cold Gods Mother Rhoyne House of the Undying Ghisgari Pagan Bronze Gods (Dead Religion) Faith of the Eight (Dead Religion) Darkwaterrite (Dead Religion) Storm God (Dead Religion) Bearded God (Dead Religion)
@@darktom9067 I have literally read all the books and yes they are all real. We might not know much about each one but they are at leaset mentioned in the book by Geaorge.
@@marcbarnaby3222 Then can you tell me what are the Cold Gods, "Darkwaterrite" or Bronze Gods? Don't remember ever hearing of them in books or anywhere else. Also House of the Undying and Three Daughters is strange and not necessarily a religion.
I stopped doing the moving pictures in my recent videos after all of the complaints but I was considering bringing it back again until I read this comment. I without a doubt am never bringing it back now.
The constant wiggle effect applied to all of the images in this video is unnecessary, or at least should be toned down significantly. It's distracting and a little nauseating. Good video otherwise, lol.