It is a massive pain around Vic Market, everyone's legs will fall off if they have to walk a single block to Swanston St and get another tram! Can't have that!
I use route 48 a lot and often the section from Kew to Balwyn on Doncaster road is chaos with traffic. My worst experience was when I was going from stop 43 to 51 and it took 45 minutes.
Great video! Pretty amazing how you were able to talk about all those routes in such a short timeframe. Definitely something I'd never be able to do. Just a small note; I would avoid getting confused between a tram class being the oldest, and a tram class being the worst. Whilst the Z3 Class are the oldest trams running on the network (excluding the W Class), that doesn't necessarily make them the worst (remember, D Class trams do exist). I actually don't mind the Zs. They're pretty good in terms of passenger flow, and they have a higher capacity, and more standing room compared to the A Class. Still a great video! Also thanks for the shoutout!
@@QazzyTransport Cold, but I agree. Their capacities are 🤏🏻, and the Zs are particularly narrow. The As also lack sufficient capacity (ie Melbourne High students trying to get out of MSAC on route 12), but the plus is that there is a scanner on almost every pole. The Ds have walls that bulge, limiting the number of seats and giving the impression of little capacity. Plus its PIDs and seats feel backward. My favourites are Bs and Cs. They have good capacity and they look like they do. Cs have excellent PIDs, while I may have bias towards route 75.
@@senorliamy17 The B Class are one of my favourites too. Mainly coz of sentimental value as they were the first trams I ever rode on, and I used to catch them a lot back when they ran on Route 86. My favourite tram class is the E Class. They're really comfortable, modern, and have a lot of seating room. Then again, I am a bit biased towards the 86, which is run entirely using the E Class
I'm so confused at simply how many channels there are for melbourne transport infrastructure. This is like the 4th one i've seen, but i'm not complaining
Wow great video, I love your content!! my two cents if I could please mate. I’d say as a regular commuter at the southern end that the 6 should be higher. The Prahran part is slow but it does move, but what wins hands down is frequency. The 6 is a true turn up and ride frequency tram on weekdays. Agree 100% with views on the 12. Used to catch it when it was the 112 then it split and became the 12 back in the day, and the 12 lost out and got the shoddy smaller trams while the 11 got the beautiful new trams. I used to board at the Fitzroy St terminus in morning peak and you couldn’t sit by the third stop and couldn’t get on by maybe the 7th-10th stop. That was 2015 or so. We were packed like sardines every morning, possibly still the case? (Not sure) And all that time 11 got the big trams!! And yes the 12 should go on Latrobe permanently to reduce network congestion and provide service to the north of the cbd… And yes the 16 has its issues but 4/10 ….. Ouch!!!!
Route #16 from st Kilda to Kew 🎉is a school bus route passing many prominent schools including melbourne grammar, Mac Rob, school for deaf, site of school for blind, Wesley, st Kilda primary, yeshiva, Beth rivkah, Caulfield grammar, shelford, Liebler yavneh, Caulfield junior college, de la Salle, st Kevin’s, scotch, hawthorn primary, st Joseph’s, Montessori, Xavier, mlc, trinity, ruyton Travel on tram #16 at school o’clock at your peril
Being an hour away from city because I was forced to live far away. Any tram will for me. I could even put up with garlic smelling breath from people. I miss the city so much 😢. Thanks for the video ❤
I have an idea why they stick to the low floor tram along LaTrobe St.....with it going to St Vincent's Hospital, it would make it easier for patients, frail, elderly, prams, wheelchairs, etc to get to and from the hospital. And Latrobe st does intersect other major tram and train routes, running in a north south direction, allowing for people to transfer a bit easier to get to the hospital. I remember when the Z class first came to Melbourne. They were great, but now, 40 odd years later, my knees prefer something easier to board !😂 Although I admit, some of the routes they are on, they are perfect for zipping around tight corners, as they zigzag through the 'burbs
Yeah I can't wait to try them out. I only get to Melbourne once or twice a year....and love just riding a tram around looking at the scenery, people and life in general
Regarding low floors on the 30, the issue with what you've said is that the only platform stops on the 30 are the two at either end, St Vincent's and Central Pier. This is due to change soon, thankfully.
2:32 I work right next to that junction and I don't think I've ever seen a tram running on-time through it. I just take the half hour walk home because trams are so late, that it can be a longer trip waiting for one than just walking. Not to mention, its a bad spot for emergencies to occur, as a single fire truck or police van stopping traffic can delay trams on 3 busy lines running in 4 directions
glad that route 11 gets such a high mark because it's always been a good route whenever I've travelled on it. though it only having e class trams makes me wonder... but it could be a coincidence
@@milkymoocowmoo that is the reason, yes, but there's a coincidence in that fact that I'm being vague about for privacy reasons that I've yet to confirm is actually a coincidence
D1 and D2 are almost wasted on route 6 (and many other malvern/brunswick routes) due to the fact that there doesn’t appear to be any level access stops along the majority of its route.
These are the ones I also use most often, and have the longest acquaintance with, especially the 19. I have ended many a late evening on a crowded North-bound 19. And Sydney rd is a dog, though it becomes quite entertaining on a motorcycle :)
I actually quite like the Z class trams They can get very busy but the seats are soft and nice to sit on Plus they sound really nice when accelerating or decerlating
When I was in Melbourne in 2023 I stayed in Brunswick and took the 19 to and from the city centre. I remember thinking to myself 'is this really the world renowned Melbourne tram experience? this is shithouse' since every time I took the 19 it was overcrowded, slow and stuck in traffic, and a somewhat rough ride to boot. I'm glad my complaints were warranted though and that its basically the worst tram route in Melbourne. I can't wait to return to the city later this year and experience the trams on one of the better routes
I remember once “getting” a z class on the 96 one morning like 8am on a weekday. It was hilarious. The tram turned the corner from Fitzroy Street into St Kilda Station and we all looked up. This tiny toy tram opened its doors. It was so full. We all just smiled and waited for it to go. I have no idea what mistake Yarra Trams made that morning.
I went to look at a rental property in Newmarket recently and got the Route 57. I didn't know that the Z-class trams didn't have announcements, so I had to constantly pay attention to the map to make sure I got off at the right stop because I didn't know the area. I never understood why the Zs never got the announcements during their last refurb.
I hate taking 57 unless I have a specific route to go to Flemington Racecourse, Queen Vic Markets or Showgrounds. I don't like the seats. I used to live in North Melbourne but I will always take the train over tram for efficiency. I sometimes miss living in North Melbourne because I lived close to train and tram 57. It was convenient going home. Now I live west sides. I love the beach, hating the no tram situation
Was someone playing with a washing machine whilst you recorded the audio? I could hear the beeping at around 3:40. Made my day! I used to live in Albert Park and would catch the 1. Trundling through those really nice streets on a dark, cold winters morning was just great. After living there, I moved to East Brunswick and would still catch the 1 from the other end of the line. Not nearly as nice as the Albert Park section.
I relish the day they upgrade the 57 tram 😭 just up from the Maribyrnong stop (uo from highooint on wests rd) theu are making a tram depot as well, not sire if that will change the 57 route from defence site, or what that would look like for the 82 tram?
How come Route 19 received such a low score? Despite the traffic, it does run through several activity centres. Would you consider adjusting the score in light of this?
i keep thinking you make deltarune videos because of the ralsei profile picture and i'm like "wtf they make videos about ptv" but no... it's always been ptv 😭
I dont think the D2 is the most common on the 6. Most of them are on the 19. I would say that the D1 is more common. It might also be worth mentioning that the 6 is only one of two routes that is operated out of two depots. I never thought of reallocating the 11 onto Latrobe though. The victoria harbour area is pretty quiet and the 48 is probably enough for it. 11 should be reallocated to go to central pier. Honestly slowest tram street in the city would be Chapel Street. Its so jerky to ride on the 78 because of how often the tram stops and goes. I also think you said the 19 is up next twice
From an operational standpoint is actually makes a bit of sense to run the 11 down to Central Pier via Latrobe Street, as it would pretty much overlap the entire length of the current Route 30. However, Route 11 provides a lot of capacity down Collins Street with the bigger trams (the E Class), compared to the As and Cs that operate down there. Also, whilst the Victoria Harbour area isn't all that busy, I think the plan is for the Vic Harbour routes to eventually continue down to Fisherman's Bend and the Garden City. So maybe the 11 should be kept on Collins for the sake of capacity, and futureproofing, given that two routes will be needed for the two branches in Fisherman's Bend.
Absolutely agree we’d take the 12 every morning from Fitzroy St terminus. Always get a seat, and ride into the city without having to grip onto a pole and hang out of the door. The 96 was our backup only. It was always just too full by the St Kilda Station stop
Why does the 30 tram end at Central pier for passengers but it continues on to the end of the line at District docklands? Can’t they just keep passengers on until the last stop because it’s going there anyway…
You made an error when describing route 48. You confused east and west. Balwyn is in the east, not the west. And Docklands is in the west, not the east.
I think your assessments are a bit harsh in a couple of instances. For example I find that route 3 provides an interesting ride. It's all subjective I guess.
