Every Middle Earth SBG Legendary Legion Explained 

Thanks for this! I've just pinned it to the top

@@ConquestCreations NP dude! You and Zorpazorp convinced me to get into MESB, so its the least I could do my dude! Have a good one, and may all your dice rolls turn out awesome! lol

Please add it to your description so that I can use chapters on my TV

You better release our battle report with them soon!

@@ConquestCreations I swear its on the way, it's just... a lot happens in that bastard hahaha -Liam

@@NoobsandMen You better keep that painting tutorial in there!

Forgot to add this question, what do you think we'll get for the next supplement? It seems like they've covered most of the content but I did have an idea for a supplement: Ancient Battles of Middle Earth. It would be focused on events that happen well before the movies and main books but still have a large impact on the setting. There could be LLs for the Fall of Khazad-Dum, the War of Dwarves and Orcs, the Last Alliance, Barad-Dur directly under Sauron, Bullroarer Took and his hobbits, Arnor, and more. Additionally I would love to see more support for Khand and the Corsairs!

That seems to be how they're viewed in the UK too.

I am always surprised by this comparison I see it all the time. I reckon even before this supplement Easterling's are great. I think if people are playing them like Gondor and comparing them to Gondor they aren't utilising the Easterlings strengths so that probably why they are let down. Lets have a look at their strengths: - cheapest and best war drum in the game paired with march makes them one of the fastest infantry armies. (Their war drum is better than the Isengard and Mordor one because they don't impact everything in the list whereas the Easterling one does) -Pikes! Easterlings hitting power doesn't come from high strength, it comes from rolling more dice than the opponent. If you have 3 dice plus a banner to win the fight and 3 dice to wound you have so many dice that you 100% will be killing stuff. I see a lot of people use there pike like spears which is why they get let down and compare the army to Gondor. While it is hard to maintain a pike block this is where you board positioning and manuvering comes in handy. -The most durable/fastest cavalry in the game. The Easterling Kataphracts are impacted by the war drum and the drum is on a kataphract this means if you aren't engaging in combat you are moving 15" pair this with the glimering horde and even your horses are defence 6. This means a group of kataphracts is incredible for positioning in scenrio's like reconnoitre, seize the prize, storm the camp, capture and control, ect. I do agree they don't hit very hard but if you use them as a tech unit to get objectives they are amazing This was all before the upgrade now they have several more really powerful hero's and a fight 5 pike wall! It's going to be super powerful They definitely have plenty of weaknesses as well so I don't think they are the best thing ever, but they have won several tournaments down here in Australia

Great question! honestly no idea! they haven't teased anything yet so I reckon it might still be pretty far away. They will 100% do a supplement around the Last Alliance at some point in the future but I don't think it will be next. I would expect to see a fall of Arnor book in the future as well

@@ConquestCreations all very good points! I've been wanting to run Easterlings with Khand and hoped that the new LL would include them but alas it was not meant to be. I'm using Dunlending models for my Khand as in the books they seem to be based on the Varangian Guard of the Ottoman Empire: elite Norse mercenaries that served as the bodyguards of the Byzantine emperor.

Thank you for the comment! I actually rate that Idea 'Every Scenario Broken Down' would be a great video

The reason I didn't talk about it is because I am dumb and forgot to look in the appendix!!! I have pinned your comment so it will always be on top so people can see it. Helm Hammer Hand is awesome!

Riders of Rohan also count towards your bow limit in this LL which is quite annoying as you can’t spam as many riders as you wish!

Thanks for the comment! I just need to paint up the Mouth of Sauron and a few more orcs and it's ready to go

Glad you enjoyed it! I held onto this idea for a long time waiting for Defence of the North

Glad to hear! Thanks for the comment

You are totally correct he 2" does actually make a big difference. Whips will be a lot of dice rolling for very litle gain but its such a cool army still!

This video is about just the legendary legions which specifically are expanded rules to certain factions that are released in themed books the dwarves just haven't gotten on yet. Kazad dum remains one of the most popular factions! They have a big variety of models and heroes, there is a lot for you here! If you are interested specifically in the expedition into Moria you can play a Baking army where you are able to take all the dwarves that went into moria

@@ConquestCreations Interesting to hear they are so popular. They certainly don't get a lot of press about them, plenty of battle reports and discussion on Rohan, Gondor, and Morder, but the dwarves are a bit more quiet. lol Lack of spears and no green marked allies is also a pain, but you are right, they do have a decent amount of units compared to other factions. Will need to figure out ways around web store restrictions and finecast, but my guess is DnD minis might make for decent conversion fodder. Still just dipping my toe in, so we'll see how it fares as another project on the pile. lol

Thus far in Australia there has only been one major tournament to ban legendary legions. I think the issues with them are only in 2-3 of the particularly bad ones (Vanquishers of the Necromancer and Black Riders). A lot of the legions are great and add a lot to the game such as Ugluks Scouts so very strongly disagree with banning all of them

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Thanks mate! Thats the goal. I have a heap more stuff on the way!

@@NoobsandMen He does have a shocking lack of Seans, noisy birds or dogs, and PJ parties on his channel, though. Pretty good otherwise.

Thanks for the comment! I am glad you found it helpful

Thanks for the comment, it's 3d printed terrain from Printable scenery

Really good. Just a suggestion, you could swap Orc Captain on Warg for Orc Shaman on Warg and/or swap Goblin Captain for Goblin Shaman, since Shaman models in "Assault On Lothlorien" count as heros of fortitude, so they can lead the 12 troops and they get their casting re-rolls

@@flyingrancidm00nfish7 I chose the orc captain because he can do more damage

Haven't had this comment yet that's a great idea!

I haven't seen them in action yet but I am very confident that they are a top tier list. Beorn and Grimbeorn with monstrous charge are an absolute steal for 200 point and will be able to one shot most things in the game. You then have troops that for 20 points have 2 burly strength 4, fight 5 attacks so they wont be loosing many fights. Having 2 wounds makes them super durable. I would prefer a 2 wound D4 model to a 1 wound D7 model. When you compare them to other profiles 20 points is a great price. These guys are comparable to half trolls who I have use a lot and are insanely good. hey can also drop the burly for a strength 4 bow which is so awesome. At 500 points with 1 bear you still get 15 of them which is decent numbers. You do have to be careful of people manipulating Beorn but once you start fighting he will be charging every turn anyway so his rule doesn't impact him that much. I don't think it will be an easy army to use because it's still low model count but it has so much potential. This is a total side note and a controversial point. I do not consider March when list building. I think its the most over rated rule in the game. Even in my all infantry dwarf army even when I have it I find there is pretty much always a better use of the might

I can’t wait for these guys to be released!! Definitely picking up Grimbeorn and at least 15 Beornings

Hahahah it still is sometimes making Frodo mandatory was a great way of nerfing it

I do agree in retrospect. Magic is one of Azog's big weakness so getting resistance is really nice on him

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@@ConquestCreations thank you very much. Keep going one of the best channels for mesbg content

Tournaments 100% should allow the legendary legion special rules. Its a special rule associated with the legion rather than the scenario. That is the new legion that I am most excited to play. the night time rule is really interesting because it impacts both armies negatively. Also shooting armies are so dominant that having armies that counter shooting heavy armies is really important

This is great to know! I might give them another look. At 550 points getting a free 40 points is a pretty big deal. PS if you ever need a podcast guest send me a message!

You are totally correct! Damn even with Eomer counting as Theoden it wasn't the strongest this definitely hurts it. At least you can take Erkanbrand who is a great support character

My girlfriend and I love the lord of the rings series, and I love tabletop games so I figured I could get us the fellowship and the nine to learn the game with, and I was just curious if I could get Frodo to walk to his doom lol

There are quite a few hard to use fun armies that don't break the bank! A super hard to use one that is the cheapest is Throin's Company, after that I would have a look at rangers/grey company, and maybe the Attack of Lothlorien army. You can find moria goblins out there cheaply and there are so many alternative models for bats and spiders

Thanks for the comment! I have a Harad army that hasn't seen the battle field in years. I'll have to get it out and give this another shot

@@ConquestCreations I definitely would, it’s podiumed at tournaments here in the UK, and has done well even under my command 😂 I suppose it may depend on how terrain dense your boards are though. The winning build is Warleader and Suladan, then bows on the howdah and serpent riders on the floor. More people on the Mumak than out, so to break you need to take on a Mumak who can deny heroic moves and strike against your leader! A scary prospect for most armies!

Thanks for the comment. It only lasts the one turn. Otherwise it would be devastatingly powerful

@@ConquestCreations Thank you for the response!

I did say that at the time but since I made that video Easterlings got really popular down here in Melbourne and managed to take out the top spot at 3 tournaments that changed my perspective on them!

I reckon at some point in the future there will definitely be a Last Alliance one at some point, I am just not sure when

@@ConquestCreations the lord's of the west need the love. Awesome to see a video posted. Your channel inspired me to start painting and collecting LOTR sbg last lock down.

Smaug is his own army list rather than a legendary legion

The game is still growing. This is the top of a lot of people's wish list. It will definitely come it just isn't out yet. That being said I don't think it need a legendary legion because you are able to ally Numenor and Rivendell already and play the last alliance