There's bound to be bugs in this spreadsheet. Let me know if you find any bugs and if you find it helpful! I've been double checking it when farming relic domains just to make sure I don't get rid of stuff I might want to keep. Thanks everyone :) Make a copy of it: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19hBRQWML69zVsAKXKhn3IDVJ4-TQDsXgqCCPc8I0njg/edit?usp=sharing
The relic spreadsheet is awesome. Funny enough I was like where is the Genius set for Jingliu and then I saw him reference it XDDDDDD Good stuff. Keep it up 👍
Related to Relic-Characters page: I think Clara can definitely use 4P Wuthering set, especially considering relatively mediocre value of Champion domain (and with upcoming folow-up attack set, its 4P value for Clara will drop even more). Wuthering may not be the BiS set for her on paper but it really helps with something like solo SU runs (shoutout to Smug videos) and overall surviveability especially in case she doesn't have her signature lightcone.
@@isabelmoran6735bro it's a gacha game, you knew what you were getting into (farm, relics/artifacts, 50/50 characters), idk why yall keep saying the game is tiring when it's GACHA😭
@@_HanaPanda because I'm only focusing on relic,, I login once a day just to spend all my energy farming random relic (mostly the one with monkey in it) and then log out. Maybe 1-2 days I spent my energy for completing weekly task. Now that there's new relic set, my numbers goes up to 1100 pieces 😭 (I have sort out 100-150 pieces since the video uploaded). I don't farm on traces because I have 12 characters at 8/10 or 9/10 on their traces.
@@fauzitsabitkemal ah, I'm a Seele main and I spent most of my time maxing her out. So her traces are now fully maxed out, I'll start on silver wolf next and eventually my first team will just be maxed to where I want them to be. I have been naughty and using my trail blaze power to farm some relics today, as I want to build a second team.
Thank you so much for putting this spreadsheet together and sharing it! I made a similar but much more basic one for my characters in Genshin because it’s so much to keep track of. You have just saved me a lot of time and headaches and the drop rate and efficiency info you added will be super useful as well. Much appreciated.
Relic Guide: Expectations: Crit and Atk on DPS....HP, Def and Speed for Supports. What you mostly get: Crit and Atk on Supports. Hp, Def and Speed for DPS.
omg yesterday i farmed and i got a perfect hp body which i can use for supports with high criteria rate and crit dmg roll inn substats it is so frustrating
Legit fr like for example my Gepard had a head piece with 18% cdmg and only rolled 1 on def%. My brother got an OHB body for her Lynx but all rolled to cdmg and it's 23% lmao
The set bonuses dont matter so much just as long as you get the "correct" sub-stats. Once you do that, you will free your mind and your units will become stronger!
For me I can Take a good Piece Regardless if it's 3 or 4 stats and some of my 3 stat Relics with Double Crit (Specifically The ropes) Have shined for me one with 1 roll into CR and 3 into CD and another with CD as the 4th sub and 4 rolls into CR
so about the elemental spheres, the average stamina should be multiplied by 7, as you are trying to get the element your character needs, not just any elemental spheres. Edit: NVM the list is totally correct, 12.73+12.31+11.74+9.03 (*7)~=100%, the list already accounts for the elemental sphere the character wants. It's(9.03%) much more generous than the hell rate Genshin got (5.00%).
Also regarding speed boots. Almost every character wants speed boots so their value should be higher than say ER ropes. A single ER rope may be harder to get than a single speed boot but you may need 3 ER ropes and 20 speed boots.
The stamina values appear to be correct, because they're derived from the stat rate -> drop chance. If you look at the stat rates for spheres, his stat rate is 9.03%, which is correct and divides the actual "any elemental orb" stat rate of 63.3% by 7. He doesn't need to multiply the stamina chance by 7 because he already divided the stat rate by 7, so its factored in.
this spreadsheet is super helpful, thanks! as a suggestion, a checkbox for people to select which characters they own/want to focus on that then filters the drop rate value etc in the other sheets, would be super useful.
This spreadsheet is just what I've been looking for, thank you so much! This maybe isn't the place to ask, but do you or does anybody here have a similar sheet for Genshin?
I know this video is about relics but i have an question outside the topic. My question which 4 star would u choose in this event bare in mind(dont have LC for pela)if u have an account where u nothing pulling on until a certain time.
Even without a great LC, I'd say Pela is the most "universal" char because of her AoE def shred, but all characters are viable with good investment, so pick the one you like the most (appearence or skill wise). Maybe avoid Hook/Serval if you already have a Fire/Lighting 5* DPS, but I've seen both of them full star clearing MoC easily too. Have fun, invest in the chars you like and take your time, no need to rush :)
I understand if they need money from us by Gacha & Battle Pass but they also limit our farming efficiency by only giving 240 TP really pisses me off I've wasted 2 weeks farming relic for my Jingliu and she is still not a good unit for my account Those 2 weeks only for 1 unfinished Jingliu How many months for a team of four do I need yet we need 2 teams for MOC? 😭
844 avg stamina for an element sphere is to just get ANY element sphere? Getting a specific element sphere must be much more costly. I'm trying to get a good ice one for Jingliu and just got 1 ice sphere out of 25-30 drops so far. I'm thinking about crafting one.
really helpful gude, just a question. wouldnt element specific sphere be the highest stamina cost because it should be 2.26% / 7, making farming element specific sphere the most costly. usually i sacrifice my substats for dps sphere and just use the self modeling resin coz its such a pain to farm it, plus sim universe takes much longer time to run
basically i dont even rely on spd relics. whole team have 25 spd boots or not, result absolutely the same. not talking about substat bc its barely possible to roll into speed rather than just flat def
I was about to start building a spreadsheet for myself and this video was recommended. Somewhere YT is reading my mind and I'm incredibly thankful for your work! Makes this much easier now.
3 of my best C damage pieces came with 3 starting substats , two of them being flat hp and defense, or effect res, and everything rolled into c damage , got up to 27% on 3 pieces like that. I always roll into something to +3 , then maybe one more time then salvage if I don't like.
no matter what guide you watch, it'll just raise your chance of farming good relics, but if rng is really against you, all guides would be meaningless. no offense but that's the truth
Hey IWTL thank you very much for the spreadsheet since I love to learn about every game that I played,but there is one problem that I see when you show the relics for all characters. Seele use quantum not imaginary,of course people who have play this game for a while know it's wrong but I'm just afraid beginner try to use this video as a guidance and actually putting imaginary sphere but nonetheless thank you very much for your effort. Edit:Now that I actually see it,every quantum except SW are imaginary sphere
Hit TB70 yesterday, been dyeing under the number of relics I'm hoarding. This sheet will do wonders, and the drop rate and avg drop per energy is very eye opening. My go to GI and HSR youtuber brings another gem and tool!
A helpful video, however imma continue to roll my double crit attack sub gears and magically roll a flat stat 4th sub 4 times instead I'm now at 28 of these instances, as opposed to the 2 gear where I rolled a useful stat more than once, Dhilf still not got 70% crit rate all because I haven't rolled crit rate once across all 6 of his double crit starting gears ;_;
I was hoping that he would adress the dillema that is. Should when should i salavage my relics? Is it worth salavaging 5 star relics? Like what should i do with level 3 relics with bad rolls? Should i salvage them or use them as EXP material for the next relic? Am i burning too much money for using them as exp or maybe i should just salvage them?
Level 3 relics have no value whatsoever (past week 1). Level 4 relics, at max level with very good rolls, are the only one's worth keeping, and even then you are actively looking to replace them. Potentially keep a very rare mainstat 4 star relic, if it from a set you don't farm much and don't have a 5-star version of, in case you need to suddenly build a character that needs it and don't have / don't want to use a self-modeling resin quite yet. Both level 3 and 4 relics give the same amount of relic upgrade potential whether directly used in an upgrade or used via salvaging. It is apparently technically more efficient to salvage 5 star relics than use them as upgrade materials, because 10 relics gives a new rng chance at a specific part of your desired set, compared to what those ten 5 star relics give in upgrade exp. So they should be used last as exp material. But in reality which one you should use them for depends on whether you are prioritising better relic pieces or if you are in need of upgrade exp for upgrading now.
i have Seele,silverwolf,bronya,Fu Xuan,Kafka,DHIL,Tingyun full traced Gepard is nearly maxed [didnt feel like maxing skill its 9/10 [i usually just basic with him anyway] and revive 8/10 Natascha and Hook and trailblazer have their skills 10/12. but im still hitting 1,5k golds everyday. dont know what to throw away anymore.
To be balanced, I don't want relic with shit 2 or 3 flat stats, I can tolerate one flat stats enhanced only once, +12, while three percentage stats any stats,
So I’m about 5 months late to this spreadsheet but seriously this is so so helpful!!! Are you by chance going to update this anytime soon as we have gotten more caverns and worlds in Sim Universe? Great job on this!
just in time. I didn't farm much, only to get considerable ok relics for new characters. And still my inventory is overflowed. But I'm playing since start
Did you consider lowering difficulty level of domain? Haven't tryed it yet, but my point is, i got very good relics for seele when i just unlocked guaranteed 5 star relic difficulty (maybe ar 50), and it took only about a 100 clearings, but with imbibitor now, i already did more than 250 clearings and the relics are stillnot as good. It requires testing and potential of great loss of materials, but it just doesn't feel accidental with ,more than 2 times difference in spent trailblaze power
Thank you so much for the explaining everything. I was getting paralyzed by choices. I don't particularly like playing the "excel-game", but I do like playing with excel.
I only just started this game a couple weeks ago. Completely addicted to already coming from Genshin. Love it. It’s so easy to get lost in the story and lore. I am TB35 in just a couple weeks 😂just by doing all the quests. I have very few I have a couple up to level 50 but still suffering because of low relics. I have so few. I have a healer, a Shield and damage. Trying for another damage dealer. It takes forever ever doing anything for damage. Ugh. I don’t want o lose interest because of this. They need to have better ways to get three or four star relics. I been searching everywhere!
I had pretty decent wastelander of banditry set that I took off my Dr. Ratio and just threw them into the new set I farmed up for him. Then I accidentally pulled DHIL after building pity on BS banner. Really wish I still had that set sitting around to throw on him now lol. From now on I hoard every 5 star relic unless it's TRULY dogshit.
After about 3 months of getting non-stop defense, speed and hp relics, I quit honkai for good and told myself to never come back since I was just wasting my time getting useless relics. Until I saw this video, which has saved me from quitting the game for good, so thank you for this!
You had a little oopsie at the end. It's not Passerby and Musketeer that drops from weekly bosses but rather Thief and Musketeer. Man I wish I had 5000 relic remains! The self modelling resin aren't as valuable as I'd hoped they'd be, since you get to choose the piece you're likely to get the substat you want within 10 rolls anyway, and there's nothing stopping it from being triple flat stats either way. I rolled my Seele's whole set pretty much from crafting without using resin.
Lucky you. I've used every single self-modeling resin that we've been able to get so far on getting Seele a Quantum Salsotto Orb with crit rate or crit damage. Guess what?! All of them rolled without any crit. RNG is RNG... and i cry every time i think about it, but i stay on the grind.
@@xhandhele You should probably just farm world 7 since rutilant arena is superior anyway, or even wait for the upcoming world 8 though it doesn't seem like an upgrade over rutilant. If you are running mono quantum it could still be worth it for your supports anyway though. I've also never gotten anything good from self modeling resin. All my best crafted pieces were just from random luck crafting without resin. I have 5 of them now just sitting around. I guess they're meant for sets that are extremely inefficient to farm and where substats don't matter that much.
What should i do if i finished all wuests side main and event, not all the event materials gsthered unless its especially hard. I spread all my resources thin getting everyone to 70/70 i have 10 80/80 but i neglected relic farming 😭😭😭 should I just stop for 30 days fpr the 2400
Amazingg video! Extra tip for people, keep 4 stars that have 3 sub stats and a speed sub stat between them, you could en up getting a very decent speed piece even if it has lower stats. Also and for myslef, even if a 5 star piece with 3 sub stats with 1 crit dont roll the 4º slot into another crit, its better to roll into into +6, maybe you end up with a cuadruple crit piece, and if at +6 it didnt roll into crit, move on.
relics are a joke i've been farming one type all week and havent had one decent relic... Literally 90 percent of the time it rolls the shit you dont want and becomes useless.. So frustrating
Should you do weekly bosses every week? I skip some weeks as I don't need that much the drops and I definitely need more relics, but this way I am missing on the big amount of musketeers you have
Unless you already have all the musketeer relics you need, keep farming them. It only costs 30 for the equivalent of a 40 stamina run plus it gives you other stuff, so in the worst case you got a bunch of relic xp for cheap.
weekly bosses also give the shard thing to craft 4* light cones, and even straight up give those light cones. Unless you also don't need those light cones and superimposition then you can skip, but even so, stocking up on weekly matz is still a good thing as you would need 2-3 weeks of farming 1 boss to get enough mats for 1 character's traces. Imo it doesn't cost much and has better returns due to it being limited per week, and since the difference between lv7 and lv10 traces is like 15-20%, it's worth it to prefarm so you can upgrade immediately when you have spare resources.
im by no means an expert in statistics or anything but i dont like how in the "Stamina Value" section for the sphere you classify the "elemental" sphere as 1 entity when in reality is 7 different entities making the stamina value much higher to get the right elemental sphere.
Been farming gear for months, not even a good piece for my clara, they gave me speed boots on physical set, dehek with this rng, all the good stats go to break effect sets like bruh,
Thank you so much for this! As someone who is new to this style of game this spreadsheet looks like a lifesaver - you must have put so much effort into it and it looks amazing. Thank you!
I think the new domain is gonna be insane value, probably best in slot or at least useful 2 piece set bonus for every follow up and DoT character in the game.
Seeing that Stamina Value chart for relics was very educational for me. Now I understand why I don't have a EHR piece for my newly acquired Silver Wolf based on the chances here.
Nice work! Wish you had released this earlier though, last week I went looking for something on this topic and after finding nothing I made a similar spreadsheet. Since I don't have all that much knowledge on what's ideal for each character, I sourced all my data from prydwen. Some interesting things I noted. 0. Nobody wants flat ATK/HP/DEF 1. Practically everyone wants some amount of speed so i didn't include it on the substat list. 2. The only ones who want effect res are supports and only if they're using keel so I didn't include it on the substat list. 3. DPS units mostly want ATK, Crit rate, and crit damage, with a few exceptions (Blade, Jingliu and Yanqing somewhat). 4. Abundance and Preservation mostly want HP/DEF with a few exceptions. 5. Supports are the ones with mixed offensive and defensive stats and are the ones you need to keep an eye out for. 6. Prydwen doesn't think much of break builds it seems, with only 2 or 3 listed. With that you can put together a pretty quick rule of thumb for determining whether a relic is worth keeping.
Hey ,Can you make a video testing shield strength of all the character ,i know you have done that before but now that the roaster has increased it will be fun to see remake of the video
Great Work Thanks for making this. Do you make account fixing videos because i just can't clear MOC and Swarm 5 even after reaching TL65+ way before I have a super good first team but i still can't clear Swarm 5 or Moc. Please if you can fix my Account it will be a great help.
Even though I’m at end game and TB66 I’m still struggling with what relics to use, look for, farm, and etc. I find this video VERY HELPFUL!! Thank you so much IWTLG!
I've been making baby alterations, expanding relics and adding the missing characters on your great sheets but I'm having some ordinary problems that I'm not finding the solution for as a layman, and I'm hoping you can help solve, like the color (element) of a new character's entry not carrying over to the filter sheets, but that aside, what's really bumming me and that's quite crucial is that the filter doesn't work with multiple words inside a single cell for example "Vonwacq / Penacony", your filter won't find this cell if I select either "Vonwacq" or "Penacony", the filter will only find it if I either remove one word or another. It's searching for a specific word, something such as this: [4P 2P Set 1] "Messenger" in a single cell the filter can find however a [4P 2P Set 2] "Hunter / Pioneer / Musketeer / Prisoner" inside a single cell the filter won't work/find. I would need too add too many new columns if I were to put them all in individual cells. I wonder if there's a solution for this, I tried to create a dropdown myself however the line of codes from the tutorials and guides out there doesn't quite work like yours plus their filters doesn't answer my above problem
