Funny if it was invented for the Patriots why was it invoked for the Jets against the Patriots and the Jets ended up winning that game. So tell me how can you invoke the rule earlier in the season if it was invented for that game against the Raiders? Are you seeing pink dumbos flying by flapping their ears?
If accusations were convictions that would make a lot more sense. But the accusations and only 2 convictions (Spygate 1.0 and 2.0) is all anybody has against the Patriots.
@@rhywar621: Montana and Rice admitted about the cheating that went on within the 49ers organization during their heyday, Bradshaw admitted to what the Steelers got away with. No GOAT is really that clean.
@@clipcoug1139 I get u but I still think the Patriots overdid it they be video taping folks practicing and plays deflating the balls and even messing with the opposing teams headsets they siad almost every team has complained about their headsets not working in Foxborough
As time goes by, more and more things will come out about how the Patriots cheated. Tom and his teammates benefited from all this. It will always bother me that the league let them get away with all of it.
They wrote an alliance of blood, bullets, and bull sh*t in Detroit. Now, they've got Richard Farrelly a former associate of "Whitey" Bulger. Used to be Sullivan learned that .500 cheaters like Chuck (Chuckles) Fairbanks for using an FBI contact to hack team headsets and transmissions. And, then completely cut ways with them.
Jay Glazier says otherwise seeing he has the orginal Spygate tape against the Bengals and Goddell was showing the other tapes in question before he destroyed them.
The NFL destroyed evidence that would have exonerated the Patriots of any wrongdoing. Why? Because 31 butthurt owners were jealous of the Patriots' success
@@patrickwashington1187 Because I believe BB was the one responsible as such a system would require access that a Quarterback wouldn't have. Let's not forget that the Bucks, while good, weren't exactly dominant this year. They barely squeaked out a win in some of their games and got blown out of another. In Brady's multi-INT games, he clearly had trouble reading the coverages of the defense. If he was still cheating, he would have had some clue of what he would face IMO.
@@mr.whisper3338 not to discredit anything your saying but,this is deeper than football,it’s things going on behind the scenes that fans could never imagine
Even Manning, friend of Brady says he would make it a point to not discuss plays in the Patriots visitor locker room, as he felt they were being listened to.
manning had made so many "jokes" about them cheating. 2015 playoffs he made his team practice in a random field in the woods, where they werent officially scheduled the practice. during a "peytons places" episode he tells cris carter "can you hear me clearly, just making sure my head set works unlike in new england" which isnt important for a giy like peyton, who IS the coach and playbook, but lots of team's complain that they cant call plays to their qb because in new england somehow their headsets are (they dont say this but i think hacked) malfunctioning and all they hear is the espn am radio broadcast of the game.
coaches were known to start leaving fake playbooks in their locker rooms because for some reason, during pats games, when they came back inside from warm ups, or during half time, or after the game, some players playbooks go missing
I find it amazing that people recognize that Barry bonds only achieved his accolades do to his steroid use (cheating), but with the patriots all the fans are able to just continue to be delirious and act like their accomplishments were well deserved and fairly earned.
Barry Bonds already had HOF calibur numbers before he even started using steroids. He wouldn't have the record number of home runs, but roughly half his accolates were won before the steroids, depending on who you believe (Brian McNamee said he started injecting Bonds in 1998, court documents and reporting says Bonds was injected before 1999). It's not just the Patriots. It was the Steelers back in the 70s, 49ers in the 80s/early 90s, and the mid-to-late 90s Broncos. They all act like their titles are deserved.
@@renatopalma9074 Hahahahaha. Right. They are such "good friends" they ignored basic science and handed out the stiffest penalty a team had to that point, and suspended Brady for 4 games for....weather? Everyone loves to hate the Patriots but gives the 49ers a pass when Rice admitted to using illegal stickum on his hands. Fans are so stupid it's insane. All I need to know from any fan of any team is when they answer the question "what did the patriots do wrong in the spygate accusation?" None of them get it right, and I won't tell you the answer because you won't believe it anyway.
You're hater always whinning. Deflategate - you do even knows nothing about it. Did you looked at the video with a MIT professor or other high educated people who understands how the law of physics works? What did Wells report said? Hmmm? They had no evidence that NE deflated the balls. Even further Brady scored more points in the second half - as the balls wasn't deflated. How many balls were deflated? Hmmm? They found nothing! Just to save their little asses, the NFL put a charge against Brady - without any evidence! Brady is the GOAT - and earned his 7 rings.
@@seufer12 what about the leaked emails were the patriots staff members are openly talking about deflating balls and pissed off that tom hasnt been paying them 🤣🤣🤣
What about the greatest show on turf? They literally stole all the play calls. Brady the goat but to say he earned all those rings is a far reach lol Iike remote downstairs while you upstairs in the bed reach.
@@UntakenFF2 Not only is he a cheater but he's trash on top of it. How he gonna have the NFL in his pocket and still be less than mediocre 😆 y'all be tripping cause y'all get caught all the time but if your QB didn't need SOO MUCH help it wouldn't be so blatantly obvious. ... And Yeah, he's still your QB. I know all y'all bandwagon NE fans are w Tampa now
Given that they spied on the 1-11 Bengals a week before playing them in 2019, one can very easily conclude that this corrupt franchise hasn't honestly won a game since belicheat became their coach.
Hines Ward said in AFC championship game it would run his route and New England Patriots would be standing there waiting on him like I knew what he was running
"We had 10-13 new plays for the Super Bowl which we never used during the season but they had the perfect defense for all of them like they knew beforehand." -- Marshall Faulk That quote says it all. Knowing all the plays your opponent will run is like knowing what the pitcher is going to throw next pitch, which is a huge advantage...just ask the Astros. Bill Belicheat is the Greatest CHEATER of all Time!
So Marshall Faulk is just salty that his Rams choked against the Patriots and all his speculation on the Patriots "spygating" was based on a Boston Herald article that was later retracted because the Herald admitted they made it up. Oh and stealing signs in football and baseball is actually legal if you do it through proper methods.
@@jharp08: OK. My mistake. The story they ran was based on incorrect information and later ran another article saying the original report was false (side note, Goddell cleared the Patriots as the NFL was able to verify that there was no walkthrough on the Rams). Bottom line is that there was no videotaping a walkthrough and plenty of people are believing Faulk, who believed in a story that was later proven to be wrong and the Herald apologized.
I played golf with the backup running back for the rams that year Justin watson. He said he saw somebody in the patriots camp filming the walkthrough. He gave so much detail and everything he said checked out. The patriots filmed their walkthrough. He said that the rams realized the patriots knew their plays before they ran them at the end of the third quarter in the super bowl so then the rams changed their game plan in the fourth quarter and scored 14 points in the fourth quarter. Also, if Tom Brady had nothing to hide with deflategate then why did he destroy his cell phone?
@@Jeffersonokay: Yeah sure he did. Checked out to who? Blind Patriot haters? Not even Roger Goddell believes about this filming the Patriots allegedly did. Also, no cheating in Deflategate. It's quite clear that anybody who knows what the Ideal Gas Law is would know how all the balls (on both teams sidelines) were deflated. Not even the Wells Report could prove without a shadow of the doubt that Brady or any Patriots staff were involved with deflating the footballs.
Explain how that franchise never had a down season?? Every other team has had to rebuild or some kind of struggle but never NE. They’ve been cheating for years
Because they had randy Moss and a bunch of other fantastic players. Maybe they cheated sometimes but they also have the best team of all time. Tom Brady is goat
@@joelentrup6658 and y’all have been fined for cheating. Caught videotaping teams. Accused of wiring locker rooms. Why did the league burn those tapes before they ever got to the public?? Cheaing ass franchise
@@soarinskies1105 dude Peyton was accused of using hgh to help him with his neck injury during his last few seasons. Brady was confirmed cheating almost his entire career. Not even close to the same.
@@thebiohazard9457: Wrong on Brady. This is straight from the Wells Report "Based on the evidence, we also have concluded that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls." Nothing conclusive from that and the district judge ruled in favor of Brady of any wrong doing in Spygate (and he threw out Brady's suspension, which was later reinstated by the appeals court, because the same "more than probable" cause gave Goddell the power to suspend Brady under the CBA.
Not only are they not a dynasty 5 of the 6 super bowl wins came down to one play. That they were cheating is fact by now. So even cheating they barely won and one of those was on the worst call ever by an opponent
Over the past 20 years I've still never seen one person wearing a brady Jersey that says alot. When he retires only the media will miss him nobody else will.
Nether one of them deserves credit for there success if they cheated.and if it comes out for a fact that Tom Brady cheated he should never be put into the NFL hall of fame..
see I love Tom Brady I love him as a football player I just want to know the truth behind the whole football incident just come forward and admit if there was a conspiracy that includes all staff and coaches..
@@kmc1824 you gotta understand hes a chump. a character its a sport with controlled variables. you have to have golden boy. a #1 product. a product everyone gets excited to see every time a new edition is released(a new season) they made him a low draft pick. a back up. an underdog. and they made him win win win to a point where its almost mythical. half the world thinks he cheated. half those ppl think that just means he wants it more. the other half cant evaluate talent and believe what ever "experts" say. and theyre all paid to say what the networks pay them to say. fox and espn dont just air the games. they pay the nfl BILLIONS a year..... just to air the games. imagine the profit..... if every qb got 2 or 1 ring max wed never have one or two guys we all argue and talk about. 1 or 2 guys to tune in for. manning, rodgers, everyone could see theyre far better than brady. even brady fans. but the wins is all that matters. you have 2 goats. and a guy who seems to always "overcome the odds fair and square" and its so awe inspiring and relatable because everyone wants to root for and see the underdog win. then the nfl cuts the media members FAT checks. how? well in vegas you can bet on the giants to beat the pats on the superbowl. 100 bucks and if the giants win, you get 300 back. or 200. whayever the odds are. they alert them. its called insider trading. "hey, ya this #1 ranked offense with tom hrady scoring 50 tds? #3 defense and the pats? ya theyre gonna lose to the giants even though they dont have a top 15 offense or defense" "really?" "yes its in the script, bet whatever you want, vegas odds will double or triple it just keep your mouth shut or youll never be allowed to get a job in the nfl ever again"
@@kmc1824 theres a reason tom always beat peyton. they knew every single route and play. theres a reason manning had to invent his own system where can change every route the coach calls and change it all at the line of scrimagge so that the pats DONT know exactly whats happening. theres a reason tom was "so good" in the playoffs. bad weather. and vs peyton. and a reason why toms defense ranked rop 8.... 20 times in his career. where manning brees and rodgers had less than that COMBINED..... theres a reason peyton has beat tom the last 3 times in the biggest game aka afc champiomship. because peyton joined the broncos who have had top 10 defenses over and over and over since the 60s. peyton is FAR.... FAR..... NO WHERE NEAR REMOTELY CLOSE... TO Tom.... the difference isbigger than galaxy.
Pete Rose can't get in the Baseball Hall of for betting on Baseball games , yet Shady Brady , Bill Belacheat, & Krafty get away with deflategate spygate etc.and are praised as the GOAT, best coach,& being a dynasty 🤔
Pete Rose accepted the lifetime suspension from baseball, which includes a spot into the baseball HOF. That's the difference. Pete Rose can get into the HOF, posthomous, or we wait and see if MLB decides to lift the ban.
Don’t forget that they knew Aaron Hernandez was in trouble or needed help and they chose to ignore that and told him to do whatever he needs to, so that he can continue his career
@@English_MoFo I’m not downplaying him or what he did, I’m just saying the pats organization was aware something was fishy and Aaron told them he needed help even if it wasn’t true. So that was in their knowledge, hence my comment….
@@gabrielfelix1759 Spygate and what the Astros did basically had similar punishment. Both teams were fined maximum dollars and both lost draft picks in subsequent drafts. Bonds wasn't even really punished for cheating.
Tom Brady is a disgrace to the history of the sport of football. Tom Brady is a disgrace to the entirety of athletics. There is almost nothing that will make me despise you more on a first impression than saying that you think Tom Brady deserves to be the Greatest of All Time.
@@TheNBAHistory I could go into a whole long expose with statistics, examples, and logic to prove why Brady's not the GOAT, but I wont. I know it won't convince you otherwise. I'll just say one thing: in my book, counting stat records from being behind elite o-lines for 20 years, getting constantly bailed out in the playoffs to the point where all 7 super bowl rings can be traced back to flukes, cheating, and/or a carry job, sending motivational texts to your defenders, scummy off-field antics, and possibly PEDs from his dirtbag trainer don't make you a great player. Skills do. Brady, in 20 years, has never shown me that he has any level of skill compared to Rodgers, Manning, Marino, or Brees, to name a few. If you really want me to give you the cold hard stats, just ask.
They should have been stripped of their rungs nd championships...same as they did those blk Olympic gold metalist...20 yrs after they found out some shit
@@itsdavidfr2594 It's a lot easier to do that in Olympics considering many Olympic sports are all about the athletes skill, and not about a team, or a playbook. Replacing a teams titles in football is kinda impossible, especially cause they never cheated in the big game. If they had cheated in the SB, then revoke the title. But the Pats also never had a proven cheating scandal in any of the years they won it all, so I think they're safe.
@@TheNBAHistory he is an all time great but if he wasn't on such a cheating franchise he would be in the same boat as the other great QBS he wouldn't be in a league of his own or called the GOAT
This is why I got so tired of hearing about Tom Brady.....even after he left the patriots. Take away a good offensive line and the rigged games, and Brady is no better than Matt Leinart was in Arizona.
No, they wouldn't. Because only one of these infractions actually happened, and it wasn't nearly as bad as what people think. Go do your research about spygate and you tell me what the Patriots actually did wrong. I bet you won't get it correct, either.
@@elliottpierce9823 spy gate was from 2001-2006. 3 Super Bowls there. Deflate gate was when they beat Seattle. Spy gate 2 was after they had just gone to 3 straight super bowls.
@@ronjohn575 I actually did some research on it and found my whole life has been a lie. Apparently the people who said that Spygate went back to the early Super Bowls, came out saying they had false info, issuing a public apology saying "our bad." I know crazy right. The big thing that put deflate gate as something that didn't happen, was the fact that the Colts balls that were inflated to 13 PSI (to Andrew Luck's liking), compared to the Pats 12.6 (as low as possible). The Pats balls were way under the minimum which made them more sus. But the Colts balls also were deflated, a couple of them being a tiny bit below the minimum, but most of them were around where the Pats balls started. Thats what I found lmao. And the one in 2019, was a year where they didn't win the SB. So unfortunately for us, I think they still have all of the SB's lmao. Curse my researching lmao.
Belichick was asked what he thinks of comparing him with Lombardi. He dismissed the question as if he is the better coach. He was right he is better at cheating.
Imagine if an NBA player like LeBron or MJ did all this, they're legacy would be tarnished. Instead you have guys calling Brady the goat even with all this obvious evidence.
If this happened to Lebron or MJ, it would be swept under the rug and their legacy wouldn't be tarnished. just like Jerry Rice's admitted Stickum usage, or everything Montana and Bradshaw admitted to getting away with back in their heydays. Remember MJ's gambling problems?
It just amazes me how patriots fans still don’t think they’re cheating when all of these teams saying you’re calling out there signals,headset hacking,and more,just accept the truth
@@patrickwashington5259 the whole headset thing is stupid because once the opposing team headset goes out the home team has to stop using there headset as well, it’s an nfl rule so I don’t know how that cheating when both have to stop using there head set. And patriots have the most success out of any franchisee the past 20 years so there going to be a lot of people trying to discredit there success so it’s easy to poopoo it
They should get stripped of all their rings. Cheating, and getting caught, it should be grounds of dismissal of those titles. If not? What kind of picture is this painting for the youth getting into the sport?
Pats cheaters.....no way! .....said no one ever. They also get overwhelming help by the refs. Never saw so many calls go a team's way and a QB get protected like Brady. Defenses could not even get close to him or they would get a roughing the passer.
The Patriots “cheated” and won 6 SB’s, 9 SB appearances, numerous conference championship games, nearly 15 Division titles in a 20 year span. Why wasn’t everyone else “cheating.” The NFL is not coming to Foxboro and taking SB trophies away. What about your team? Some of that Patriot success could have been yours.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xuXSg8nvSdM.html Here something interesting lmao. Also Jerry Rice came out and said he used Stickum. Also how exactly do you know Montana never had that help when all the ref things were tiny things in game that would have been forgotten by now. I'm not saying he had refs help. I'm just saying lmao.
I haven’t forgotten the part back in Super Bowl XLIX where Legions of boom just allow Julien Edelman run pass the defense like a free entry, that particularly didn’t make sense at all. While Rodger Gooddell also helps contributes to Patriots unprofessional advantage. As for the rest it’s disgusting.
"If you're not cheating, you're not trying." -Joe Montana I HIGHLY doubt he'd take that same position on the Pats cheating scandal... certainly not if it was done during a game he played in, b/c what the Pats did was on a GALACTIC different level!!
The same Montana who admitted his linemen greased up their jerseys on silicone so defenders couldn't grab a hold of them. Jerry Rice admitted he used a banned substance (Stickem) during his entire playing days. Steve Young admitted he paid ball boys to keep balls warm on gamedays by throwing them around (tampering with balls). Meanwhile the Patriots get caught for an action that plenty of NFL coaches have admitted that they have done (Spygate). And Deflategate is the biggest hoax in NFL history.
you know whats funny. i just typed a damn near essay telling this clown on here that the nfl had to force win the patriots and tom to make a mythical character, which creates revenue because its so soso hard for a qb to win multiple rings..... except montana.... and then you quote him saying that... crazy shit. i would not be surprised at all if they started it. bill loves himself some west coast/9ners offense. especially when he sends his wrs as heat seaking missiles to knock out a DB and get a guy open for a 50 yard gain on a slant
@@clipcoug1139 thats all cheating rxcept the warm ball theory come on dude. thats how i know youre a pats fan lol. let me guess you think giving john elway 2 mil cash under the table was worse than stealing playbooks like bill
@@gabrielfelix1759 What Steve Young paid the ball boys to be doing is basically tampering. And giving John Elway 2 mil cash under the table is much worse than stealing a playbook that you don't even know is real or not.
This is late but if that's true, on Instagram there's a feature where you can set words to be automatically deleted if commented. I wouldn't be surprised if he blacklisted "cheater" and related words from his comments
Who deserves most of their credit neither of them it has to be the NFL league for allowing this… especially the clown, Roger Goodell… I can see clear as day that he has favoritism…
The following teams deserve a Superbowl win because they were cheated out of it before by Tom Brady: Falcons, Rams twice, Seahawks, Broncos, Steelers, Jets, Giants, Eagles, Ravens, and Colts.
This era of football is really soft. QB's like Joe Montana, and Randal Cunningham would have way better careers if they played the soft as football of today. QB's careers are extended now because these rules are soft as fuck.
No way joe Montana was a system qb just like brady and this was proven when he got injured and Steve young replaced him and dropped better numbers than joe
@@krisxchirbas9503 thank you!!! How can people convince me joes the goat when his back up produced better stats and won just as much as he did. Joe is the biggest system qb
You know what they say once a cheater always a cheater, that's what causing disqualification, if they cheating in a game so much, it doesn't makes a winner, but cheating makes a loser, but the only way to win the game is to not cheat at all
Wait, the Eagles fans? Y'all beat us in a game with 0 controversy (long live Big **** Nick). What are y'all pissed about, as the first one was also clean.
@@elliottpierce9823 - Bro, I thought belechick was a genius in 2004. Every screen play to Westbrook had 2 guys on him…. I’m not saying this salty, PATRIOTS CHEATED
@@phillyd4874 he had two guy on him becasue coach BB had two weeks to prepare and get his guy ready for certain plays like those. You remember the Seahawks super bowl against the pats, Malcom butler made that interception because the week before they were practicing against that same play in that same situation. that should show you BB genius right there
@@bobbybetwirlin8442 - The guy literally new the Eagles play calls … Was so bad, nfl burned the tapes so integrity of the game was not in jeopardy… Those Early SB’s should have a asterisk.
@@phillyd4874 how is knowing a play a crime? Guys litteraly study film to know what plays are going to happen. Coach BB knew what play the Seahawks were going to do on that goal line play, that’s why he had Malcom butler in the game during that time. He suppose to know play that’s what they get paid for
@@elliottpierce9823 Sir us Steelers fans justify steroid use because EVERYONES on steroids We don’t get bad calls that changed games for us like the pats