Were The Patriots Cheaters? 

funny because brady also smashed a cell phone

true that

not gonna talk about the saints pass interference no call

Not even Hernandez, if Gronk was healthy for the entirety of the playoff runs 2011-2013.

Depends, in this scenario, are they still cheating?

If Hernandez could have lasted through his prime less hits on gronk and less double coverage they would of been a juggernaut Brady would have nine or ten rings

@@natashahall-baran967 Maybe 1 more ring, but I don’t know about 9-10: 2013 I feel like the offensive weapons were just too weak and Hernandez wouldn’t be enough to make a huge difference 2014 they won 2015 I think he could have made a difference and the Pats win the Super Bowl 2016 they won 2017 they lost but the defense was the major problem 2018 they won 2019 again the offensive weapons were too weak overall for Hernandez to completely alter the season. I think with Hernandez they beat Tennessee but not sure if they go into KC or Baltimore to win

If they still cheat it doesn't matter who is out there.

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This time I won't be bitter about it because at least Mahomes can be fun to watch if you ignore the glazing by the commentators, Brady is boring even if you ignore the commentary team blowing him.

Chiefs will never be what the patriots where their qb isnt good enough

@@Makeouthill.3615 Straight moron take, the Mahomes hype might be annoying but he's touted as one of the best for a reason. His team hadn't won a Superbowl since the 60's before he became the starter and now he has 2 rings and 3 AFC championships within his first 6 seasons as a starter, he's on pace to tie Tom Brady for Superbowl wins by the time he reaches the length of career that Tom had. Not saying he will win that many but so far he wins as frequently as Tom did. Both won a superbowl for 1/3rd of the seasons they've played. Brady Made 10/21 possible appearances as a starter while Mahomes made 3/6, Mahomes makes the Superbowl more often than Brady did in terms of percentage.

@@coments101 nobody knows you?

cause EVERYONE wants to play for the team that can CHEAT THEIR WAY to a Superbowl and keep the ring and record. Take away any wins by cheating, and yards gained of KNOWING the other teams plays and Brady is just an AVERAGE QB.

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Someone’s a Brady/Pats fan! 👀 😂

@@SeattleRaindrop206 damn skippy 😉

Agree with you there. it was so obvious it was so rigged so dingledorf, got another ring with another team.

🤣 Yeah… that’s it.

It’s not hate or jealousy for being good… I think everyone that truly loves football respects Tom Brady. He’s the GOAT. Hands down. There will never be another. But everyone also knows the Patriots are a cheating organization (and shouldn’t have 6 rings)… Both can be true statements.

It’s around 5k when I got here.

Now 6k

11k now

That’s a pass. You don’t see other franchises with this type of constant, repeat record of cheating.

@@SeattleRaindrop206 That's because no other franchise were that good at cheating.

Actually that first part of the dynasty he was constantly putting up Top 5-10 numbers, even with average but not great receivers

@@waffles5433 That might be a stretch, besides maybe his TD totals, roughly 25/yr which is good. Quick check and his first 5 years as a starter he averaged about 63comp%, 90 Q rating and threw about 7ypa. Not really exceptional numbers. What he was exceptional at was... Not screwing up😄 He took very good care of the ball and played smart, led league in fewest picks a couple times. But that's all you need sometimes, Alex Smith made a career out of it and Kirk Cousins carries his torch. Brady was undeniably great. But I think the D and Adam V were much more important those early years than Tom. Later in his career, he very much was the most important player.

@@krob5375 Can’t say how old you are, but you’re either too young to remember those times or it’s been awhile so all you’ve looked at is a raw statsheet with no context. It is true it wouldn’t be considered high end by todays numbers, however back then his numbers were *very* good: 2001: 4th in completion%, 10th in TD%, 6th in passer rating 2002: 8th in completion%, 6th in passing yards, 1st in TD’s, 8th in TD%, 8th in INT%, 9th in passer rating 2003: 6th in passing yards, 10th in TD’s, 5th in INT%, 10th in passer rating 2004: 10th in passing yards, 6th in TD’s, 6th in TD%, 8th in YPA, 9th in passer rating 2005: 8th in completion%, 1st in passing yards, 3rd in TD’s, 8th in TD%, 6th in YPA, 6th in passer rating 2006: 7th in passing yards, 4th in TD’s, 9th in TD%, 8th in INT%, 9th in passer rating The guy was putting up Top 5-10 stats in every major passing category almost every season before even getting his hands on an elite receiver. Deion Branch and David Givens were decent receivers, but a far cry from Harrison or Wayne, Chad Johnson, TO, Driver, etc. Brady didn’t just not screw up, he was going out there and performing at a high level.

@@waffles5433 I'm old enough, but I had indeed forgotten how much lower the stats were at the time. You made me look harder haha. And yes, not bad at all. But being smart with the ball helps. Manning liked to throw which resulted in a ton of picks first few years. Drew Bledsoe never got back his job because he was similar. Goes back to him being smart with the football. You got me on the numbers, but I still believe without that D and Adams clutch leg, they wouldn't have won those rings.

​@@krob5375It's crazy how those first few years people forget you could still play D with guys who had modern skill set and athleticism. It's why quarterback numbers are not comparable to the no touch, jam, wait tell a receiver is standing wide open because you can't touch them either. Breaking 30 T.D. was 😮. Throwing 3,000 and 25 T.D. under 15 INT. was elite. Then year by year after 05 I think when the Colts changed the rules to help Manning offensive attack by making corners not be allowed to be bumping the receivers, and the Brady 08 rule since they new people would loose more interest in a season when top quarterbacks were all out which did happen. Have to look at numbers in sports the last 10 years like you do inflation since 1 million used to be a lot but not anymore just like stats. Today it should be much easier for QB Ratings and 30 touchdowns is like 24 back then. People don't take clutch throws and winning drives into account which is all he did when they asked him to win it. It was the same with Montana and Elway, they played the system they were asked to do, then go win it for us in the end. Brady played so damn long, we forget he basically played in two different leagues of football, and the second half made it look like he was below average when comparing his stats from both era's.

Never

**Sigh** Denial is a helluva drug. You don’t see other franchises with this type of constant, repeat record of cheating. It’s not hate for being good… everyone respects Tom Brady. He’s the GOAT. But everyone also knows the Patriots are a cheating organization. Both can be true.

They didn't cheat the Raiders. The refs cheated the Raiders.

Right it was all rigged, and planned.

Not as good as people think actually. That's how good Dan Marino wasn't actually.

No, you're not right

....what?

I don't even remember posting this. I must've been drunk because I don't even agree with me! (And he changed the thumbnail)

they got caught many times, and lost draft picks

If you’re caught in the act of cheating, then you’re cheaters

@@Tacofiend92 If saying that makes you sleep better at night than say it, doesnt make it true

@@TheMadRaxX if you’re caught in the act of cheating then you are known cheaters fuck the Patriots

LMAO love the sour grapes.

Agree with you there. The Rams,Panthers,Seahawks,Falcons,and Eagles all outplayed the Patriots in their SB losses.

@FoxxyBrown1111 They never filmed the Rams walkthrough, the Boston Globe printed a retraction and an apology for their mistake. You could say that the league is fixed, but that would nullify the cheating accusations.

As a Patriots fan I love the hate the Patriots get. Don't you all know that this hate is what fuels the Patriots?

yea defaltegate and spygate were problem other teams had it just wasn't a big deal because those teams werent dominating

They put the spotlight on themselves

Yeah the Eagles deflated in 04 and lost lol

That was priceless!

He was such a beast that he became a murderer.

Because they are

@@Tacofiend92 Spygate was about the location of the taping and the NFL admitted in court that they had no evidence to support the deflategate allegations. You can videotape opponents, you can only do it from certain locations. How are the Patriots cheaters?

Every team cheats. One just did it better than the others.

@@chanthathanh1031 That’s true. Brady is the GCOAT. Greatest Cheater of all time. He also had a lot of help from others no matter which way you look at it.

Thts not even a lil bit true, they've hated the Pats since the early 2000s

In that case every NFL team is a loser. Literally every team in the league cheats or has cheated plus all the current cheating and past cheating that we dont and never will know about.

@cameronspence4977 That's what happens when you make sports into a business. You end up with the same ethics. Everyone believes everybody is cheating, so then the real losers are the teams with integrity.