it's sick how bad mmorpgs have been last 10 years. literally 0 games i'd like to play in that video. maybe i'm getting old but every game today focuses on graphics rather than gameplay. sad. the era of good games is over it seems ( for me ) . every mmorpg is literally the same, with different names for different attributes, but all in all, the concepts stay the same, nothing new.
New world has some amazing gameplay besides the lack of good endgame content, BDO is pretty good for the type of game it is, and RIot's mmo will surely be fantastic. There's plenty of good mmos, but it just seems like you're not in the genre anymore. It could be that you picked up mmos when you were a kid, and now that you're an adult and not everything is as amazing anymore they bore you. Remember that the games you used to play were amazing because you were a kid, and that nostalgia plays a big factor. I've had plenty of fun with newer mmos, and I cant wait for throne and liberty to launch, even if grindy it has some vibes I like, and if not at least one from this list will be fun.
@@miuletzmitzu6641 league mmo is one i really want to try, because i've been a member of league community since season one. I guess i've grown out of the mmo's yes, true. I guess, i'm more oldschool with diablo 2 and osrs, since i played them when i was a kid. it's pretty weird that nostalgic games beat everything new , for me . and btw the new "runescape" looks very unattractive :( agree with you about the idle afk botting part, that's just the death of the game from the start, if it really is a part of the game as we understand it.
Blue Protocol will be forever famous as the mmorpg that died before releasing globally. The Duke Nukem Forever of MMORPG's. A game that kept pushing it's release date back quietly until it all but fizzled out. But even then, Duke Nukem Forever at least released at some point. I'm legit surprised how, in the current state it's in; they aren't just releasing it globally and hoping for some success. It might not save it, but better than just giving up on it :/
It's not dead yet but New World and Pax Dei are putting more nails in the coffin. There's this guy that has a good saying; I'm just one nerd desperate for a good MMO. I concur.
The core of New World is soo damn good. The combat and the world are amazing. AGS just dropped the ball hard on the rest of it. Really poor developers.
I shed a tear everytime I hear something about Archeage, it was by far one of the best Mmorpgs when it released. I remember the day people started quitting in waves... Damn thunderstruck trees was added to the lootboxes.. I can still see the shop update message in the chat and when the game was refreshed and people understood it was over.
I remember spending a couple hundred bucks in just a couple days just to get average lower level gear that I was gonna have to replace in another day or two. There was also a large tax when selling stuff so when you sold something for 100 gold, you would only get 80 from it. I constantly had to BUY the ability to craft weapons and armor, it was so blatantly pay to win i just gave up.
Archeage was my first true MMO experience and My God I Loved Every Minute Of It....until Trion made player crafted items obsolete, heavy P2W and Made housing areas kiddy-land safe areas. Too many Bots and shit now. Id still be playing this day if it was so ruined.
Dude runescape 4 looks so good! Also we'll see if Archeage can really come back; I loved the OG game. Ashes looks super good as well. Still have to try that one out let me know when you get to it!
Playing the Throne & Liberty game now. Its not re-inventing the wheel but it does feel very solid and polished. I think this game will have a nice run. The Korean version is already getting content updates and the "p2w" aspect feels quite optional, although im not anywhere near end game content.
I'm fine with MMOs not re-inventing the wheel. I think to many try to and that's why they fail instead of just saying "What do people love about this game or that game" and then capitalizing on it. Alot of people say bleh to tab targeting old school types but for some MMOs it works and would be better while in some a action style would be better. Games don't have to innovate or be a fresh take, they just have to be good and something that keeps us playing. That's all I want.
Gotcha and PTW mechanics have been in Blue Protocol since day one in Japan. You actually think they were going to remove that entirely for a global release? Lol
In my defence. I've been watching these "upcoming mmo's" videos for about 3 years now and they still havent released 🤣 - I'm hyped for Perfect New World but no news yet.
Brighter Shores here is probably the only thing that excites me. I love RS, but I can't stand the newer RS ownership. Corepunk seems interesting. Ashes looks lame. I don't understand the hype. I don't know a single pvp-driven MMORPG that has remained relevant.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: these video's are great! (mostly) unbiased great in-depth analysis of all kinds of MMO's. Very well done and can tell the dedication with all the alpha's, beta's and releases you keep an eye on.
It appears Ashes of Creation is wanting to capitalize or improve upon a system similar to Black Desert. Nothing wrong with that of course, but it felt like having a second career. Which is why I believe Black Desert is stepping away from that concept and has been developing Crimson Desert that appears to be much more engaging in all the right ways. I anticipated at the start of of the video that you would cover it. I am mostly looking forward to Chrono Odyssey and Crimson Desert. I've been following both for a very long time lol. Thanks for sharing your insights^
One of the other MMOs I had on my short list to keep an eye on was Soulframe, but I haven't really heard much about it recently so no clue what its status might be.
Is it too much to ask for a 1 to 1 remake of L2, mu, RO, perfect world or dekaron.... like wtf are people..behind?! There are private servers still populated of those games and they ignore it making mobile games on pc...
Arche Age had more potential than any game I've ever played. However, the Devs and those behind running the game and making decisions concerning it RUINED the game and yes, many people will remember the many iterations of Arch age that were released and it was the SAME poor management OVER AND OVER again - so yes, I have NO faith in the game, and will NOT be making a purchase.
Mmorpg had always and will always be my most favorite genre of games. Only reason I quit playing them is becauase the old ones have died, playerbase wise, and obly a few are remaining alive like WoW. But I have already played that for so many years that i am a bit done with this particular game 😂 but if takes sooooo long for the developers to give us a new mmorpg running on unreal engine 5 its almost unbareable 😂😂😂
Someone is going to need to look at what's come before, throw out 90% of it and take a massive risk. Like a gigantic time and financial investment over the course of years, on a risky new idea. With the way developer and publisher relationships work, that just seems unlikely. None of that makes me happy to say, it's just my take of course. But that take is based on the past 25 years I've spent either playing in or waiting to play in the MMO space. My real hope is that one of those smaller teams will reimagine the idea of an MMO to such an extent that it catches fire by being new, creative, bold and just happening to release at the perfect time. Getting to old to hold my breath for that tho 😂
Corepunk isn't just a steampunk game, it's a blend of Steampunk, Manapunk, Cyberpunk, and Dieselpunk. The Current iteration of the game is focused around the Elanian faction which is a high-fantasy themed manapunk environment. Corepunk is currently in Alpha 4 at the time of writing this comment, and is scheduled to run until the end of October 2024.Really looking forward to this game
Something about all these Archeage/Black Desert/Throne&Liberty games just feels so copy pasted. They're pretty but at the same time the combat just never feels right or snappy, too many animation locks or something. It's also like they all take assets from the same library. They all have the same theme and style. With some stupid gear upgrading p2w system late game. I just instantly pass on any survival/builder or game that looks like Black Desert these days. It's all the same.
Not actually factual but about some opinions of what might be the usual person might do at a game. Some people of about 5% of the country is gamers but less is for mmorpgs. Some people would just go for a old game that did very nicely. Runescape is not great. It could be much better. Mmorpgs don't do nicely. Games do much better on older systems. Like Nintendo or Playstation. Their better made. I dislike all mmorpgs.
Dunno why yall are hopeful for a LOL mmo, LOL worldbuilding is shit tier generic fiesta of cliched from a bunch of verses stitched together. And MMO genre is far from lucrative, the Chinos from Tencent wont wanna release a WoW clone.
I participated in Alpha 2 for CORE PUNK but what a disappointment. I expected a lot from this game, the studio will have to continue to work very hard.
not western made = no thank you no tab targeting/holy trinity = no thank you no seamless open world where if you can see it you can stand on it = no thank you flying mounts/dungeon finders/teleportation = no thank you
blue protocol is complete trash the trailers only show good parts the game is nothing like it at all. I played the Korean Thorne and Liberty version for 3 months and it is super p2w with limited dungeons u can do per day and the grind is really bad for getting gear so they can force you to pay to get gear.
the only interesting is crono odyssey imo, the only one with actual interesting combat. Its incredible how after 10 years no mmo made progress on black desert combat system. until the fix the combat on ashes to be actual combat and not click a skill every 10 minutes it will never be more then a wow clone with better graphics
I wouldn't get my hopes up for blue protocol sadly, from what i've been seeing. It's flopped really hard in JP and currently Bandai is at a huge loss of profit because of it.
Everytime I try a new mmorpg, I always find myself returning to osrs. GW2 was my favourite non-osrs mmo but even that didn't put me in the same strangle hold that osrs did. I don't think it's too much to ask for an mmo that isn't mtx hell and gives a good grins.
dont bother, tried it, its so bad currently its not even funny, its clunky and slow as fuck, questing is impossible because you literally zero info on what to do or where to find it. if you wanna play corepunk just go play albion online instead
Due to your comment I went and watched half of Josh Strife Hays worst MMO ever video on Villagers and Heroes. Why are you recommending a mobile cross platform garbage if an MMO with the "combat system version of a cloudy thursday" as JSH puts it.
@@Mrsneezy111 opinions are different from a person to another and I think it's a great game with no p2w and is actually rewarding when you progress through the game and had a great community and caring developers that bring new content to game constantly , I'm saying this as a player who spent 3.5 years into it
Brighter Shore: The answer to bot is legalize the bots! Where did I hear something similar that before... I don't think it ends up well. Sarcasm aside, the game will 100% be reduced to idle gameplay.
Not all skills are bottable and the idle mechanic supposedly yields less returns than actively playing. It's designed to keep players from botting while not replacing botting in itself. While I'm not a fan of this myself, it's still better than the auto-play mechanic found in most eastern mmos
Its really hard to find an mmo to play right now. I wish there were more like guild wars 2 where you buy once and thats all you need. that way if you quit and leave after playing 2 days you havent wasted any money even if you take 2 years off and then come back. Only thing that sucks is i dont really like the gameplay of gw2 lol
I'm no English but doesn't odyssey means voyage or something like epic journey? I know oddity means weird or strange, did you get mixed out between the two? Korean games always have really weird names for game titles, but I thought the name Chrono Odyssey was most made sense title of them all.
Most of the games on this video has auto play. Really not my style. Anyway if ur into "visiting a dying game" Content, please do visit Elemental Knights Online. Its a 15 yr old japanese game and still running. Still have tons of japanese active players too. 😊
Right now Chrono Odyssey is the most interesting offering I've seen. Obviously Riot will be doing something cool too whenever that eventually happens but yeah. Also BP got cancelled
I don't think it's dying I just think it's struggling, company's just get drawn in with monetization for money and consumers do not enjoy that. I stopped playing WoW for that reason and I played when it basically came out. The big delay for game releases came out when unreal engine 5 dropped. Eventually some one will be smart enough to bridge this gap but I don't see it happening any time soon. So many people dying for a good mmo rpg again. I have small hopes for things like "Ashes of creation" ect. But I don't know I'm deprived.
I'm playing Raven 2 on mobile and i really like the graphics but i'm sad this is a korean exclusive, you can play globally through your Google account but there's no english language and you can't buy or top up if you're an outsider. This is why i'm looking for some other mobile mmorpg with the same graphics but i couldn't find one :(
To be honest, Ashes is gonna be the only one worth playing on this list. I remember the hayday of games like Archage, Aion, Tera. If they go the right way, then Ashes will be the best mmorpg of all time. Its not going to Kill WoW or anything because WoW is timeless due to its diehard fanbase, but it will take the MMO scene by storm, and quickly.
another reason why mmos suck is that they are mainly pvp focused. Noone wants a pvp focused mmo. New world could of been great but the game is centered around pvp. Throne and liberty pvp. Ashes is gunna be pvp focused maybe these devs need to take a hint
Hey! To be correct :D Corepunk is not ARPG :D Eugene Kiver (producer) himself has explained this many times. They never called corepunk an ARPG - And it was the community itself that added that genre to the game. - So calling corepunk an ARPG is not true - The head page says "COREPUNK IS AN MMORPG WITH FOG-OF-WAR IN A SEAMLESS OPEN WORLD". Corepunk is simply an MMORPG. - True Oldshool mmorpg :D
Archeage 2, Chrono Odyssey and Throne and Liberty looking good, actually waiting for them to be out for so long , i just hope they will be good enough to scratch that "itch" for a mmo, i'm already tired of playing WoW over and over again.
Blue Protocol is dead already. Most of the list is defo just the usual: looks like a good idea - won't happen/will change for the worst anyway/will disappoint after a week...
korean games killed it they are developing games that takes decades to release in global version and sometines not yet released mmropg is totally dead now!!!!
most of the mmos on this video is gonna die in the next 5 years after and soulframe is gonna still alive for the next 10 years when comes out !!!!! hell yes baby!!! mark my words!!!
Well its not wrong thats a dying Gere, there are the same few big MMOs since years now and everything new that came died very fast. We all want a new great MMO but there is just none only the same old once again and again
ppl get blinded by money when making video games now adays. Devs do not make their games for passion and fun they make it for a paycheck and thats it. Its rare to get a group of like minded passionate devs together to make a game bc most ppl are so hyper focused on money now adays
Why would you have flying mounts that only a small part of players can have? I know mmo devs want to constantly look like they’re catering to hardcore players, but casual players are a huge part of mmo player base, in any mmo, just screwing half your player base out of a feature seems like a bad idea? I’m a hardcore raider and I think this is a bad idea there’s plenty of ways to give certain players cooler stuff without screwing a huge number of them out of a full feature…
Chrono Odyssey looks pretty insane for a next gen MMO, Unreal 5 as well, they havnt showed much gameplay however from what weve seen its looking like BDO but in Unreal 5 and with more focus on endgame content like Bosses/Raids etc. hype tho, hope by 2025 (they recently stated 2025 release date, sadly not 2024) it releases with little to no issues (im sure with how its lookin, performance issues forsureeee) Also of course Ashes of Creation looks great, tba release date 2030 lmao
Chrono Odyssey can easily be the Wuthering Waves of mmos, I can see this being the biggest MMO as long as they dont fuck this shit up and make sure they pay attention to their players, honestly putting a price on it and having to get it for £50 like most other triple A games would be better than making it pay 2 win, While they'll have less players, they'll also have a more active playerbase rather than one that easily dies out
Archeage 2 being cancelled seriously seriously bums me out. out of any game that I think was mishandled and mismanaged that could have been big. It's Archeage. They need to sell the rights and the code and everything to someone who can do it right.
