He was very competitive in 2023 and beat Tsunoda in Hungary. He was even crashed into on lap 1 and was last and still beat Tsunoda. Mexico was also very impressive. Just PR 🤣 Redbull doesn’t need PR. The only PR driver really is Tsunoda.
@@taylorb9860 1 fluke win in multiple seasons of mediocrity does not make you world championship material. Or are Ocon and Gasly now suddenly also world championship material?
@@paperplane-db8qf tsunoda who is out pacing him and even last year was within Ricciardo's pace? Weird how you choose to slander Tsunoda when he's so close to Ricciardo. And frankly it is PR that kept him in a seat, most drivers are gone for how he performed at McLaren.
Who was the last driver to win a race in a McLaren? I’ll wait… The Renault was booty cheeks. Now we’re here. His first full season back and you people are losing it after two races… 😂🤣
@@emir.e99but it’s true what he’s saying. F1 fans have become a cancer recently. The fact that people judge these drivers after only a few races is crazy. We saw it with Devries last season. Also these drivers being in back of the grid cars only compounds it. Alpha look like midfield team but that can change. It’s to early to tell. some drivers in the top 4 teams wouldn’t be doing any better.
@@xithr5674there’s some truth in what you’re saying. But my belief is that even if you’re in a car in the midfield or worse, if you’re “WDC” material, your talent and ability will stand out and you’ll pull off impressive drives and finish ahead of the midfield and maybe the odd podium grab or something. Max did it immediately out of the blocks in Torro Rosso and his first year at RB. Leclerc was sensational in his rookie season and destroyed Vettel in their two seasons together. Russell had a ton of good drives in an awful Williams car and we remember his P2 at Spa. Since joining McLaren, DR has had exactly 2 great races. Mexico last year and his Monza win. 2!!
the issue i have with Daniel is that when he was faced with actual competition to be THAT GUY at RBR with Max he chose to tuck tail and run instead of fight. Making perhaps the worst mistake of his racing career that he never recovered from leaving for Renault not giving the Honda engine a chance, which in retrospect with a huge L on his part. Then leaving for McLaren AFTER Cyril and Renault giving him everything he wanted and showed huge potential. his time is done he is not that guy.
He was damned if he did, and damned if he didn't. If he were to come second to max every season then he would've been made to be another Bottas and remembered only for bringing up the rear. If he stayed and fought he'd have to contend with a prodigy whom redbull made no effort to hide the fact that they wanted max to be the youngest WDC, hence why the Baku incident was put as a 50/50 at fault when it was more on the side of max as to retain max. I do hope he finds his rhythm as yes he is a great ambassador for the sport but also because we have seen glimmers of greatness as we saw in Mexico.
@@callanharvey2293 so like Checo? Finish P2 in the championship but people still saying he should be replaced? Yet he's done everything RB needs him to do. Bring points for the constructors cup and support Max when asked. I applaud his mental fortitude being #2 to a millennial talent aka the goat and not quitting/throwing in the towel like those before him.
We have to blame Netflix for portraying him as a superstar and the second coming of Senna himself. And that treatment has gone in his head. Today he is more of a celebrity than a driver which is why he is popular amongst new fans
Spot on but same time Danny let it in himself and continues to let it in when he say has one good race like Mexico and all of sudden he thinks along with media he’s RB days Daniel
He did that, Ricciardo WANTED to be the star. This is extremely disingenuous or ignorant of the game... Ricciardo doesn't have a normal agency, he has a Hollywood agency (CAA) that has a lot of hands in entertainment. They love PR and they love image rights, the whole exchange of access for DTS was to get a star and Ricciardo raised both hands.
Just another in the long list of drivers with personality the public and press love to hate, hate to love sort of deal. Ya Fernando's, Juan Pablo's, Jacques, James, Piers, Wolfgangs etc.
I think that was more to do with the money side of it, going through massive rebrand they needed every dollar they could get, and getting a race winner at a cheap cost aswell as the sponsors he brings in was ultimately what led him to that seat
@@callanharvey2293 thank you for explaining that watched the video 2 times and still wasn't able to understand what a paid driver meant. Now I know because of you. Cheers from NZ.
I understand why they did it but the performance that Liam and now Ollie Bearman have showed IS INSANE. I hope Danny can get back up to where he once was but :/ it doesn’t seem likely and I feel like Danny ric fans forget that being funny and having a nice smile doesn’t stop u from being removed from a team or a sport, especially in f1… like f1 will always be cutthroat and just because u like a driver doesn’t save them from anything
I think Ricciardo at this point is just sad. Riding on the coatails of a really really good season 10 years ago and some good performances. He is not competitive anymore and his funny persona now just feels kind of like that dude in his 30s who hangs out with high-schoolers
Have you seen how the F1 drivers behave with each other off track? They are high schoolers 😂 and I don’t mean that as an insult. They’re just very playful and saying things you wouldn’t expect an adult to say.
It’s not “just” 2 races. It’s been like this since last season. Having been out of F1 for 6 months isn’t an excuse anymore if you’ve seen Piastri, Lawson and Bearman who never raced in F1 or Alonso and Hulkenberg who had been out of F1 for years. It’s Daniel 😞
Yeah when you have young, inexperienced guys like those jump into a car and vastly outperform Ricciardo, it's clear that his time is just over. He was such a liability for McLaren that they literally paid him $15 mil to piss off. It's insane that a young guy with huge potential like Lawson was sidelined in favor of giving washed up DR another chance. He straight up wouldn't be on the grid right now if Horner didn't have such a soft spot for him.
It pains me to say it as a RB and a Ric fan but his driving doesn’t feel the same. The aggression he had on the offensive, overtakes just have vanished in 5 years. Perhaps it is really time for someone like Liam to take that seat and actually put pressure but my hopes are there I want to believe in him
I mean ffs it looks so bad when Tsunoda beats you. You cant just go forever on your past qualifications. People are rightly so turning on him despite his charisma.
Yuki gets disrespected nd I can't figure out why. Yuki smoked nyc, Lawson nd this idiot. Riccardo is washed nd Helmut shud throw him out bfre the summer break
Fully agree. And for some reason these are the same fans that talk about how Yuki is not deserving of a seat and how he is only there because of Honda. Oh the irony behind that statement. What doe that make DR then? A guy who can't even beat a driver who's not even on the grid on merit.
I'm no fan of his more than any other likeable driver, but he has surely proven himself to be a top top talent given a race winning car. He made a shocking career decision going to an abhorrent Renault team who quite frankly, should give up motor racing and stop disgracing their motorsport legacy, and a terribly flawe Mclaren. Given a top car he will perform. Drivers like Yuki Tsunoda who are only there because of nationality are the ones that should be gone.
I have never disliked Danny Ric, but imo it's time to step aside and let the younger drivers have a chance. I think Danny Ric can still be valuable to a team, but F1 is more exciting, and more marketable, when there are young talents going up against seasoned world champions. No hate on Danny Ric, I would love to see him elsewhere in motorsport, but I would much rather see young up and coming talents in F1 seats than watch him underperform for another season. Young talents are more exciting, even when they struggle imo.
1) If all these young drivers gets a seat, what about all veteran drivers? 2) Why young drivers's struggle is exciting? I asked this because I think non-young drivers's struggle is also interesting.
@@RadityaPramanaPutra2001 No one said anything about all veteran drivers loosing their seats, the best deserve to stay, and as of now it doesn't seem like Daniel, and admittedly a few other drivers deserve on staying. Whilst some people want Alonso to step aside, I think the vast majority would say otherwise given the form he's in.
@@RadityaPramanaPutra2001 The only people should have a seat are the ones who deserve it. If you're quick enough, age isn't an issue, F1 drivers should be there on merit. Divers like DR who aren't performing well, are talking up seats that could be filled with someone faster. I want to see the best drivers possible racing each other, and atm Danny Ric isn't really racing anyone. It's just as uninspiring to watch as a team that constantly underperforms, you know what's going to happen each time and it's uninteresting. Plus if F1 wants to stay relevant it'll need a consistent stream of young talent to make sure its grids are always healthy.
@@RadityaPramanaPutra2001 Yeah it is a shame, I do like him, but F1 isn't the only discipline in motorsport! DR has said in the past he'd like to do Nascar or V8SC, and most drivers get the LM itch at some point, so he's not gonna go away if he does leave F1
It may very well be his last opportunity to race, as a Ric fan I think that Lawson should have gotten the drive. I think DRs main aim is for him to put in a solid performance and leave and to not be remembered for his sour stint at McLaren. At the end of the season it's either going to be Yuki gone or him to make way for lawson
So because people dont like him... he has to go? I get that Liam is good but cmon now, if they dropped drivers due to fan opinion, Mazepin would be gone, race 1.
Watching Daniel from 2014-2020 felt like watching a Racing driver with a genuine chance of being WDC. Even when his chances became low during Renault, he seemed like a real fighter who wasn’t about to give up despite a setback. Now it feels like we’re watching a driver who’s publicity value is the only reason he’s wanted by teams, with disregard of the fact that with his experience he should be having no issue beating a driver only in his 4th season. Personally, I think there’s a chance if he can’t beat Yuki on pure merit by the summer break, Marko may pull the plug and throw Lawson in the car.
Ricciardo is a one trick pony. Every driver can be fast with a car that suits them perfectly, but only the best drivers can adapt to a difficult to drive car that is against their preferences.
A big part of it for me is that he just didn't deserve that seat period. It would have been fine if it was a Hartley 2018 or Albon 2019 situation where they didn't really have juniors at the ready but this time they had Lawson who has done everything they asked and proved that he was ready. Him being in VCARB defeats the whole purpose of the Red Bull junior academy and Toro Rosso's existence in the first place.
My primary issue is this “it’s just 2 races” is not accurate, it has been way more races since his return. At what point is it enough races? For Nyck, it was 10 races. Guess what, he has already raced 10 races. And that’s if you completely write off the 2 yrs at McLaren as a one off. Unlike a rookie you could argue needs time to develop and mature, this is a 34 yr old driver who has been on a decline for now 4 years. Much rather see Liam or some other rookie than an aging and declining driver.
And please, stop with all the various excuses for every single bad race he had. The fact is that Yuki has arguably been even unluckier with issues and bad strategy and still significantly outscored DR. Just one good performance at Mexico isn’t enough (and Yuki also had some serious pace until he screwed up so the car was strong too)
Okay since no one is replying to this absurd comment I will. "At what point is it enough races?" So, let's look at DR's race results from the second half of the 2023 season, shall we. 1. Netherlands, broke his hand trying to avoid t boning a driver who had spun out infront of him (somehow this was still DR's fault because he should have the experience to not let this happen to him...) 2. Returns at the US, in which he had damage sadly ruining his race. 3. Mexico, qualifies p4. Right behind max, and checo. And finishes the race impressively in p6 - dont try say yuki had an impressive race but ''made a mistake'', you all absolutely clowned ricciardo for having a spin at the very end of the race so I want you to keep the same accountability. 4. Brazil! Gets hit by a flying tire turn 1 and starts a lap down! Yes, wow, yuki must be much better for beating him here! 5. Las Vegaassss. Yeah, wasnt ricciardos best performance in the world, but the car was truly not to the pace of near rivals. 6. Were in 2024 now, Bahrain. Gets outqualified by yuki, but catches right up to him with more race pace. And dont try say yuki had an unfair strategy, so did ricciardo. DR asked to be put on softs and caught up to yuki, yuki decided to stay on the regular strategy. Out of this yuki had a little tantrum and almost hit ricciardo on the cool down might I add. 7. Saudi Arabia. Yes DR did not perform well here, but he had damage in qualifying and it was still prevalent during the race apparently. Not to mention the 45 second pit stop. So of course he was further down. Not defending DR fully for this race however, yuki did outperform him in this race. I agree, yuki has had the slight edge this season, but my goodness, its been 2 bloody races. Give it time, it will tell. If DR truly is washed we will soon see, and then, I will also agree he deserves to get the boot. But please, can we stop jumping to conclusions. Lets just wait and see, 2 mediocre races does not mean the end of the world. And DR knows he was bad at mclaren, everyone does, but It is not possible to lose all talent from one bad stint with a team.
@@tak8261 Danny traded performances last year with yuki, with some really stellar performances (p7 in mexico), where as Nyck, did he ever once out perform yuki?
People like you are either stupid or dont understand how the sport works. Bigdawg sums it up right. At the moment its not fair to daniel to say hes washed at alphatauru
This year marks the 10th anniversary of Daniel Riccardo's first win in Montreal. In 2014 Riccardo was the fresh younger driver who definitively beat his 4 time world champion teammate. In his peak Riccardo was one of the best drivers on the grid and the fact he was able to compete for race wins with Hamilton and Rosberg when Merc where at their strongest should never be taken away from him. Sadly a bad career move to Renault in 2019 has lead to a long decline leading him to become a shadow of his former self. F1 is in a situation where there are not enough seats for the large amount of talent coming in. The justification for keeping an arguably past his best 13 year veteran when there are so many other drivers deserving of seats (including one Liam Lawson who proved himself last season when Riccardo was injured, not to mention the young drivers coming through the Red Bull Junior Team) and you wonder why Riccardo is still here.
Yeah all this but the second he gets some kind of decent result and everyone will be saying "what a legend", "goatcardo" and all that shit. F1 fans are such fickle idiots...
@@AnarRamazanov-po5le except racing isn’t as simple as lame quotes like going for gaps or only as good as last race. Some cars ares better suited for different tracks, different variables on race day can alter your performance etc. stick to DTS bro it is made for you
@@radiospank I'm not a "DTS guy" btw. I've watched F1 for more than decade and I know one thing or two about what you said. And I wrote that quote for sarcasm
I don't think its too early. It is the eye test, he just isn't the dynamic driver he once was and that's something you just don't get back. It's like a 35 year old pitcher, they might still have that 90mph fastball but you can see it just doesn't have the movement and pop it did when they were 25. Daniel was never 'the man', he was a good driver at the front of the grid and super entertaining, but he was never a shoe in world champion Max/Lewis/Seb Prime/Fernando level talent. At this point Ricciardo is just a journeyman at the end of their career.
Honestly, RB big upping their car as a “remixed RB19” or something really didn’t help either as far as managing expectations. But him getting beaten out by Tsunoda, who it seems everyone is trying to find any reason to keep him out of the Red Bull seat discussion for the last two years or so, is not a good look.
Tsunoda is not affiliated with RB actually. He's affiliated with Honda and Honda will switch to AMR from '26 onwards so not a lot of people think he'll be in that 2nd Red Bull seat
It’s not that fans have suddenly turned on DR. There has been certain amount of DR fans who were really excited with his return, and to this date still continue to support him. The rest of the fans, were relatively excited to see his return given the 2023 season at that point was pretty much done with and this just added an interesting storyline to follow. I think there was an element of people also wanting a benchmark for Yuki’s solid performance as he was raising eye brows. The only thing that has changed is these non DR fans rightfully starting to realize that DR is not back in his form. It has now been 10 races since his return. It’s not like people have suddenly turned on him after 2 races.
Honestly I was really disappointed in his decision to race for Renault in a year they lost their RB engine sponsor budget, he chose money over real opportunities with a team that felt like family. Yeah he would win a few races at the cost of mistakes Max would make but not championship. I know that's why he left because he could not be just number two. It was just a cashgrab and a downward spiral that went way faster then he could control. He now is wearing this painful mask of the person he once was. Does not suit him at all.
@@nielsie86 Not sure if it was the money. I of course don't know the truth but get a sense it is more about his pride and needing to become the No.1 driver for a team. It is perfectly understandable and am not here to judge his decision, but in hindsight it does look like things have just gone downhill since, whether that is because of his move or just his performance declining is hard to determine.
I always remember what if Daniel Ricciardo never left Red Bull until his retirement one day later. Of course, i very disagree when Daniel left Red Bull at the time (2018), but now, all it's already happened.
I think the main reason for the turn against Daniel is when he came back he was touted as the Max Verstappen giant killer that will make the sport interesting again, which as we have seen during his fights against Tsunoda most likely wouldn’t be the case.
He also came in at a massive period of Checo hate (some of it deserved given his performances) and now that the checo hate has subsided a little bit that anger has to go somewhere
@@iminyourshadows Checko still got 2nd in the drivers championship, I have no idea why there's haters, other than the dumb decisions he makes in some races.
Red Bull blaming Danny Ric’s drop in performance to McLaren is one of the wildest things I have seen in F1, adaptability should be a must-have quality in drivers of his caliber. McLaren was right to have pulled the trigger to end this unhealthy relationship early and got Oscar onboard, now I just want Lawson in to replace him, but I don’t think RB will dare to pull the trigger on him like they have done to NDV because of his marketing value
He ripped lawson's seat bc he's in bed with Horner. He had his time, bounced teams, can't even get along w lando. Now he's supposed to be replacing Checo but can't even beat Yuki. Absolute fraud. Netflix merchant.
I think Ricciardo is suffering from the same thing Nyck de Vries suffered! Which is high expectations. Both of them had high expectations given their experience, both were also responsible for rejecting seats at low pressure environments (Williams in Nyck's case, and Haas in Daniel's case), both had ambition to the Red Bull seat, both hyped themselves up to more scrutiny, and both have failed to meet their expectations. The difference is popularity, branding, past success within Formula 1, and the backing of Christian Horner.
Like Yuki (or other drivers on the grid) didn’t have high expectations or pressure either. People spoke about how 2023 would be a make or break year for Yuki. I get a rookie may struggle with the pressure, but if you are a 34 yr old driver and can’t cope with high expectations, then that in itself is a big problem.
@@tak8261 That's an absolutely fair assessment, of course other drivers have high pressure put on to them! The point I wanted to drive home was that De Vries's and Ricciardo's ambition were ultimately their downfall! Take Bottas as an example, he's pretty washed up and honestly almost no one cares, he's just chilling and most people are kinda just "Meh, whatever!" And it's not like young drivers aren't lined up for a Sauber seat. Pourchaire is a F2 champion and it feels like no one cares about him.
I think at some point that's overcomplicating it. Talking about high expectations, re adapting his driving style, etc. Just get in and drive ffs. Liam Lawson did it, Bearman did it, just fking drive.
@@LPChipi I am not trying to make any excuses for Ricciardo! If anything this is a criticism, I've pointed out how he's the architect of his own failure, by giving himself high expectations via taking the Toro Rosso seat so he can go to Red Bull like Nyck de Vries did, instead of taking a seat at a low pressure environment like Haas.
He's a marketable guy that's for sure, but that stint in McLaren destroyed his driver confidence and I think he is still trying to bounce back from that. If he doesn't perform then yes, he has to go and throw Liam in the car and let him shine. At the end of the day people criticize drivers from race to race, he might turn it around and do great the rest 2024 or he might flop more than he already has.
The problem is the RB19 still suited Danny's driving style like back in the day and like Max, but just like McLaren the VCARB01 doesn't have the front he likes. The real problem is that he can't adjust to anything else and can only be truly competitive in a car that suits his style.
Ricciardo is a driver who bet on himself twice since he left Red Bull and lost both times (Renault and McLaren.) It doesnt look like he's helping with Alpha Tauri with car development well at all and Perez's seat at RB being secured for the time being due to results, it seems like Ricciardo being at Alpha Tauri looks redundant now.
@@sophisticateddenial6510yes he did beat both Hulk and Ocon but he left after 2 years for some reason. That's why his Renault career could be seen as a disapointment
@@sophisticateddenial6510 with both of the moves away from RB moving him further and further away from challenging for a driver's championship, I'd say he lost both times.
As a character I love Daniel, but I think his better days as a driver are behind him now. If he gets beaten by Yuki on merit this year, I don't know where he goes from here.
As a McLaren fan I had such hope when he signed on, and was so disappointed to see how few points he delivered compared to Lando. And I thought it unprofessional to offer the excuses that he did . At that level, it’s fair to expect a driver can adapt.
I always remember what if Daniel Ricciardo never left Red Bull until his retirement one day later. Of course, i very disagree when Daniel left Red Bull at the time (2018), but now, all it's already happened.
Daniel Ricciardo has to step up the game whether he like it or not. There are many fresh drivers that want to get into the grid. Especially if he wants to replace Checo in the Red Bull seat next year.
I like Ricciardo. That said, I struggle to find any indication that his best days aren't behind him. Everyone was okay with how things went at McLaren. It wasn't a good fit. Fine. Everyone was also excited to see him at VCARB. Maybe we would get a glimpse of what he was capable of again. Thing is, we haven't and until we do, the overwhelming feeling is, he's a personality at the moment and that's it, unfortunately.
For now, Danny should just be a PR guy for a team. With Checo finally understanding his role, and getting the results Red Bull is hoping, it seems replacing him with Danny would be a mistake.
Yeah I think Checo is doing pretty much everything the team could be asking for. Unless Perez himself decides to leave for a chance at being first driver for another team, I don’t see Red Bull themselves wanting to risk breaking the great synergy they’ve got going on by replacing him.
It’s been two races, so it’s too early to tell. Check back in the summer break and then make a decision. Personally, I think Ricciardo’s best option if he wants to keep driving is replacing one of the Williams boys. A lower pressure environment, one in which he can be the main man and hopefully finish his career on a good note, because he’s still a fast driver, but it’s just not worked out after Renault.
It’s ok for drivers to make mistakes. It’s less ok if they are making mistakes and also miles behind their team mate. When Ricciardo came back I was saying he was a nice guy, but I didnt expect he would even out perform Tsunoda. Tsunoda who I also feel is a mid driver compared to other talent out there.
@@huh4206 that's ONE race mate. This is like those Ricciardo fans that have to cope with Monza because other than that Norris wiped the floor with him.
@FreddyMacT one race that made all the difference lol? he qualified p4 only a tenth behind max in redbull, and higher than Lewis or checo. it simply shows his potential. is there even ONE race where yuki or liam outperformed him a whole weekend? let's be fr, no one "washed" qualifies that high. maybe I am one of those fans that will cope with monza, so what? he was leading most of the race and deserved it after being stuck in a car with understeer and doesn't work for him for 2 years. has norris had a win yet in a car perfectly suited for him?
@@huh4206 WTF a bunch of random drivers can qualify high... STROLL did that... this is just coping because ONE race does not equal long term consistency which is the big issue with Ricciardo and something you fanbois fail to understand. He's washed because at his level of pay, he's not worth what he brings to the table anymore. One race in Mexico with the upgrades Alpha made was NOT impressive. Even a rookie like Lawson in his FIRST drive got 10th after the upgrades... get real and be serious.
@@huh4206 Saudi Arabia Tsudona qualified and finished above Ric. Abu Dhabi Tsunoda qualified and finished above Ric. Brazil Tsunoda out qualified and finished above Ric. Not only that, but Ric failed to score any points the rest if last season after Mexico while his teammate scores points twice. Tsunoda scored more points last season in races Ricciardo was also in. Nobody is saying Ricciardo is bad every time out, but it says something that you had to go back 6 races to find the last good weekend Ricciardo had. That’s not great consistency for a driver with more F1 experience and who has actually won GPs in F1 in seasons long passed. Ricciardo should be leading the way, but more often he looks like he can’t keep up.
I hope Bearman's debut performance has been a wakeup call for guys like Ricciardo with their "learning curve" bs. Ricciardo is a very entertaining person, must be fun to be around. But as a driver he had his chance and blew it, all of his own volition. HE decided to step away from Red Bull and now that they have a dominant car he's aching to get a piece of that pie.
I was disappointed how he ran away from Max. He seems to want to be the center of attention and after the way he left Renault, he seems to only be loyal to himself. I like Daniel and wish him the best, but his big personality seems to be hiding a weakness in character.
He was one of the young guns back in 2012/13 and one who some predicted would have a great future. In 2014 he was the only non-Mercedes driver to win races but his career didn't exactly go to plan. But history repeats itself so maybe in 2034 we'll be asking Lawson and Bearman to move aside for new young blood. That's life.
Absolutely agree. Sad to see people seems like not notice comment like your comment, but I agree. I always remember what if Daniel Ricciardo never left Red Bull until his retirement one day later. Of course, i very disagree when Daniel left Red Bull at the time (2018), but now, all it's already happened.
The most frustrating thing about his return has been that Yuki is outperforming him constantly, and yet seeing worse result due to poor strategy and other factors outside of his control. Danny’s fans have been acting as if he’s better than Yuki, even though he’s getting destroyed in race pace and Yuki has just had horrible luck.
Me as F1 fan has nothing against Daniel...I really love his character,,,,,but imagine with Nick De Vries who was not able to complete one full season in the same team ....was very close to Yuki and Nick was new to F1.....and Daniel was thrashed in Mclaren,,,and everyone was criticising Zak Brown for not supporting Daniel .....but the same trend is continuing in Visa RB......I think it is time we should give the second seat to Lawson midway this season only if Daniel is constantly beaten by Yuki...
I used to love F-1. But that was 45 years ago - when it was interesting. When the teams were pitted against each other, when the designs were all individual & driver talent meant something.
Remember just a couple of weeks ago with the release of the car's liveries and comments started about V-CARB/RB could be a force to be reckoned with it's closer ties with RBR and some even touting this 2024 car to be an RB 19 1/2 of some sorts.. but on race day, the car seem to not have delivered. Williams and HAAS is presently ahead of V-CARB/RB, so is it on Danny and Yuki?
It depends on who did you grew up watching. Like Kimi Raikkonen a few years back. Some wanted 'washed-up' Kimi out, some others who grew up watching Kimi's rise defended against these calls. Kimi ended up retiring on his terms, a privilege only a select few managed to do. Not even Schumi got that privilege, twice. Now that's the case of Danny Ric. Perspective who grew up watching Ric's rise made this video as a response of voices calling Ric to be ousted. Unfortunately unlike Kimi, Ric is not in a position to quit on his terms. Bearman's performance now is a perfect catalyst to give Ric a threat to be replaced by young, PROVEN gun named Liam Lawson.
@@huh4206 Oh he’s partly responsible for it for sure. The way he carried himself like he won all the titles for Red Bull. He’s finally humbled, I hope.
I agree that paydrivers are on their way out, the budget cap helped a lot with that. As for Danny though I think it is more nuanced, I do believe he is past his prime and will not reach those levels again, but I also rate Lando and Yuki very highly (yes even Yuki, I don't think people give him nearly enough credit, he has steadily improved every season, and last year he beat all three of the teammates he had.) so I don't think he is completely washed and awful, but I've also never got on the the hype train Red Bull was creating with statements about his simulator work etc. I think Yuki will beat him this year, and Danny's marketability will probably not save him from losing his seat, maybe he can go to another team, but like you said there is so much promising talent that most teams would probably rather pick up one of those talents. This will be an incredible silly season though, so who knows which driver ends in which seat.
Seb was kinda washed in his latter years, Lewis is just being slammed for a slow start (which is often his mojo), but in couple of races, everyone will forget his poor first 2 races (or shouldd say qualifying, because his race pace were good in Bahrain and last weekend).
@@Alonso_The_GOAT I massively disagree man, take a look at last year or 2022, he performed a bit better perhaps than this year but some people were already trashing him, yet look at how he performed latter in those seasons. I could also talk about 2016, where he had to wait 5 races before finally winning one in a dominant Merc, or 2010, 2009,... Lewis has always been a slow starter. Btw, in case you didn't watched it, in both Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, his pace in free air was as fast as George's on average, so i really don't undersatnd the problem.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 I think f1 fans just need to hate on someone tbh they slammed seb now they miss him did the same for Danny ric now he’s back the want him gone again
As a Checo fan, I have always thought Ricciardo fans are REALLY annoying. Yes, Checo underperfomed last year but he still finished 2nd in WDC and has been VERY important in RBs success the past years, but Daniel hasn’t shown that he has what it takes to “challenge Max” (like anyone could in RB…)
he is washed up. there’s no reason for him to be there if this is still the way it is come summer. he’s one of the older drivers on the grid, there’s plenty of young talent just waiting for a chance. if you think danny deserved the seat over liam, you’re delusionally optimistic. don’t get me wrong, i like danny ric, but id rather see someone new potentially surprise me rather than watch him just further embarrass himself.
I think he is a spent force, Liam Lawson is the future for Red Bull. The new talents like Antonelli, Bearman, Drugovich and Lawson should be the focus for next gen, not the has beens. Alonso and Hamilton still have potential to win again but more world titles seems unlikely. Daniel is not at ALO/HAM level and not even close to the superstars like Leclerc, Russell, Norris, Piastri, Sainz and Verstappen. Ricciardo had his time at Red Bull, he could've stayed but he chose to leave, he blew his one chance because he couldn't cope with being second best. The only way he could get a Red Bull seat is if Max quits, and Daniel and Liam became the Red Bulls drivers. Ultimately I think Lawson and Perez would be a better line up for a post Verstappen Red Bull.
1) I always remember what if Daniel Ricciardo never left Red Bull until his retirement one day later. Of course, i very disagree when Daniel left Red Bull at the time (2018), but now, all it's already happened. 2) So, Pérez is at which driver's level?
I am Australian. I love the fact we have had Aussie drivers in F1 for some years. There was a period when we didn’t. However we don’t need the old Daniel. We need a current Daniel that is able to drive the ground effect cars well consistently. I’d love if he could adapt to the current cars. Alonso said he has had to adapt and look at how well he drives. Daniel is perhaps unable to do this. If Daniel doesn’t turn this around permanently within another 3-4 races in both qualifying and race - he should move to another category of racing.
I do hope he gets better with the rest of the season because those 2 races isn't the Daniel Ricciardo people know and love with his pace when he was in Red Bull.
To speak the harsh word: in Saudi, when kmag was holding back the field like crazy, it took Danny ric over ten laps to catch up with the bunched up cars and get into Sargeant’s drs. If we’re purely speaking of race performance, any of the current ‘pay drivers’ is leaving the grid after Danny does.
Smiling and joking around worked for Ricciardo when he was delivering results, but now when his performances are lacking that just makes him look weird. Everyone gave De Vries a lot of shit, and rightly so, but Ricciardo with all his experience should do a lot better.
Theyre not blocking young drivers. The teams make choices that are influenced by more than speed. Experience, maturity ability to handle media, marketing and travel.
Liam is more deserving of the seat to kickstart his F1 career, more so than Ric to be granted the opportunity to rejuvenate his. At the same time, Ric doesn't have many races under his belt since his hiatus at Mclaren. So, it's unfair to judge him. Other great drivers, such as Bottas, Albon and Ocon, have not been able to make magic happen with the car they had at their disposal in the past.
Absolutely. I have same fear with you. I always remember what if Daniel Ricciardo never left Red Bull until his retirement one day later. Of course, i very disagree when Daniel left Red Bull at the time (2018), but now, all it's already happened.
Last season he did alright though. So he CAN do good in the RB. If he can get his confidence and understand this car soon he’ll be alright. But if he continues to lose confidence like he did at McLaren then I think it’s over for him
i mean when your having trouble beating the sushi boi when a full on rookie had no problem slapping him you know you are washed... should have just ended his career after Renault. sure he is funny but that doesn't mean shit in the pinnacle of motorsport
@@AndyFromBeavertonTrue, but you cannot judge a driver simply based on that stat. I think he was probably a bit overrated in the past but nowadays he does what Haas needs him to do.
@quentinhirschfeld9382 Haas tried two rookies and look where that got them. How many $millions of damage did Mick Schumacher cause? And please, Mazaspin?
For me Daniel dug his grave, when he said that he's not going to McLaren to have fun with Lando, but to win races. This was after everyone expecting these two to be fun teammates to watch, both being funny and likable. After I heard this, my feelings towards him went down, as it was quite "bald" to say and it was himself that put those expectations in front of him with these words. And then he totally underdelivered. I stopped liking him then. If he only kept his head down... He did later, but that was already after it Was obvious, that he's underdelivering. So I'm sure it was a humbling experience for him. But driver on that level should be able to adapt. It now seems, that he only drives well, when the car suits him perfectly. He can't deliver much, when he's outside of his comfort zone. That doesn't make him a good all around driver in my opinion.
I think it’s time for danny to hang it up, but i hate how people think that he’s always been overrated. This is mostly the newer fans of F1. Prime Daniel won against Lewis, Seb, Max, kimi, alonso, etc. don’t let his more recent drives fool you. He was the overtake king
as much as i hate to say it i dont think Ricciardo should be in. that first race with Renault when he went off a obliterated his front wing i thought "thats it". and hes had some good races outside redbull, but... f1 is going to become an old boys club where no one ever retires and the fresh young talent is relegated to back of grid teams or "test driver" spots while relics run around in competitive cars cresting DRS trains.
The way he voiced support for Horner and dismissed any validity to the discomfort many women may feel in motorsport at the moment, on international women's day no less, made me no longer care at all about DR
Sargeant, Zhou, Stroll, Ricciardo, Gasly, Ocon, Magnussen, Hulkenberg are names that come to mind first, because they're actually wasting seats. I'd trade any of them for Mick, just because it would be more interesting.
Yeah, but in a Haas. And his first year barely counts since the haas of that year was astronomically slow. The Schumacher name in that case only messed him up because it made everyone expect more of him. Still, Haas' decision of washing him out is completely understandable since the team was dealing with financial struggles and Mick crashed a lot.
@@peterfighter No real way to tell, maybe. I have no horse in that race. All I'm saying is that there are plenty of drivers on the grid who are nothing too special while someone like Lawson has to wait another season.
As for the Pay Drivers, Pay Drivers aren't for the financial benefit of F1, their for the financial benefit of the team. And if it's an independent team like HAAS, or Sauber, and it's about the teams survival in the sport, Pay Drivers will still have a place in F1. Because F1 doesn't finance these teams to go racing, or pay them just for being there. So the money has to come from somewhere in order for the teams to survive.
I am speaking about this since 2021. DR is done, he had his carrier, he is way past his prime years in Red Bull, and he should retire. The hype about him is stupid. Yes, he is cool chap, but let the young drivers come in.
I never switched up on Ricciardo . I always said he is a mid driver. And i just think most people just like him as a person, but that's not enough for a RB seat.
How can a 8 times GP winner be a mid driver? He has legitimately beaten Seb Vettel and Max in equal machinery in the Red Bull. Stop trying to be special with your mid opinions.
It’s driven by the British media… focus on the 0 points difference between these team mates so no one focuses on the 10points difference after two races between Lewis and George…
I was telling everyone Daniel was washed up last year and got attacked every time, he’s the kind of guy that peaked in high school and been chasing that high ever since.
Lets not forget, Ricciardo is the only driver that often could beat Max Verstappen, so him being exposed to be average doesn't bode well for any new generation driver on today's Grid. Only time will tell, just like it did for Vettel... Max also if he ever leaves Red Bull will be exposed and demote himself like most drivers have. A world championn doesn't make you good, at all Not everybody is Fernando Alonso who can perform is literally all and every car. Today's F1 is for boys, while the old generation it was a men's sport.
"Sometimes, you make mistakes." Yup, he left rbr. Made millions but lost his mojo when it came to racing. Liam Lawson has a better chance of taking his seat than D Ric taking Checo'o.
I always remember what if Daniel Ricciardo never left Red Bull until his retirement one day later. Of course, i very disagree when Daniel left Red Bull at the time (2018), but now, all it's already happened.
Daniel should definitely finish with F1 asap and also get rid of his current management team. Maybe look at Le Mans as his driving ability is still there but not in a F1 cockpit. He also has a media future. Love him regardless..a proud Aussie.
Consistency in the same car, race to race is the likely problem. All of the winning drivers in the past and present have consistently been in the same car, with the same team around them to get to the point they are at. Ricciardo left Red bull, spent 2 seasons with Renault, while they declined then left F1. Then, 2 years with McLaren while they were growing again and figuring things out. Then no ride, then back to Red Bull Jr., then an injury. He has yet to have a full season driving the same car since losing his seat at McLaren. And now he is in a lesser car than McLaren. Yuki, is case in point. He has had 3 full seasons in that car, with that team. That is why his results are better. Drivers don't lose their God given talent. Danny Ric just needs more seat time. We're 2 races into 2024, and now you're like, "What's wrong with Ricciardo?" ....?????
I always remember what if Daniel Ricciardo never left Red Bull until his retirement one day later. Of course, i very disagree when Daniel left Red Bull at the time (2018), but now, all it's already happened.
I doubt consistency is the issue because as soon as he went to alpha tauri he was on par with tshunoda and even beating at times Yuki and Daniel has very different driving styles after alpha tauri brought the floor upgrade I think Yuki starting beating daniel consistently so u might find that upgrade suited Yuki more than daniel but that's no excuse daniel needs to learn to adapt although it's too late for him
Die hard Lewis fan boy but I stand by Danny ric, everyone’s quick to shit on others when they are in a slump for whatever reason. I understand it’s a hyper competitive sport but still sometimes the “fans” are the most toxic.
Whole thing with Ricciardo and Racing Bullshit feels like a big charade from Red Bull at this point. I don't think either him nor Tsunoda were at any point seriously considered as candidates for Red Bull seat and are just there to throw mud in people's faces. It's like "Here we have the most corporate, soulless and irrelevant team of the last few decades that shouldn't even be allowed on the grid, but look who's driving for them! It's Danny Ric, the funny guy that you all love, right? And alongside him is Yuki who swears a lot and it's funny. They're never going to accomplish anything but they have funny drivers and that's what matters to people!" I just wish that this team finally gets canned and tossed into the garbage where they belong, so someone who actually wants to compete can join in.
I couldn't agree more. I love Ricciardo and I like Tsunoda. But this team feels like every other corporation (Roblox, Disney etc.) It's a Formula One Team not a tool to cash grab for your petty sponsorships. Atleast have a team that makes sense, not Visa Cashapp OnlyFams Toro Rosso AlphaTauri Disgrace to the sport. I'm glad i'm not the only person that doesn't even hate but fucking despises them.
The thing is it’s none of our business how we think he’s going it’s Red Bull or RB etc. No one cares for backseat drivers or commentators who probably have never set foot near a racetrack let alone drive one.
The thing with Ricciardo is many things: 1) he never demonstrated he can adapt to anything 2) blamed "driving style" too much and car setups 3) isnt interested in any technical aspect of the game 4) keeps acting like he's still the same as in 2018, while rejecting smaller teams like he's still a top driver 5) and keeps acting like this sort of clown which turns him more into a content creator or media personality which is OK for the tiktok or DTS generations but clearly no track results to back it up. So yes, fans do feel betrayed.
I know alot of people don't want old drivers in f1 anymore because alot of young drivers are not able to get into f1. For example I had a conversation about alonso and this person said alonso should leave and give the place to young drivers