Everything ACTUALLY Wrong With Batman: Arkham Origins 

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The issue with joker in origins wasn't that he was in it, it was the fact that he pushed roman aside. They could've done everything the same but instead of making roman a side mission, you could've had him keep more of his gang, try to take out joker, and have batman try to balance a city-wide gang war along with the assassins. If you're going to advertise black mask as a main villain, then make him one and keep it that way.

You forgot the part where Batman beat Branden, that shouldn’t be possible because Branden is a Multiversal threat

The biggest problem with Arkham Origins is that all the boss fights sucked except for the Electrocutioner. Like, couldn't they at least make one that was as good as the Electrocutioner, was that too much to ask for?

I really enjoyed Arkham Origins's story, and Joker was still fun to have in the game. But having Black Mask as the main villian in this game would've been great in this game! But it's always the...Joker. But it's pretty obvious why WB Montreal put Joker as the main villain.

I love Arkham Origins. And it seriously needs a remaster.

What could be fun is either have the Red Hood gang working for Black Mask and they can set up Joker’s backstory or have that as a side mission so he is still in Origins but is not the main villain.

I always felt like it would be cool if the detective missions led up to Batman foiling a red hood heist at Ace Chemicals, which ends in him accidentally kicking the ringleader in a vat of chemicals. Batman sets up a crime-scene near where the chemicals are disposed of near the ocean in search for the ringleader, but the body is missing… no other mention of the joker in the rest of the game.

i think the joker should have been a side mission where you find people that have dies from suffocation by laughing too much. eventually Batman find his base, it being an old toy shop and though out it we hear logs of what joker did and how many people died. Bats finds him but gets sprayed with original laughing gas but over comes it and that causes Joker to become obsessed with Batman as everyone else died.

I think Black Mask should have hired Joker, and after Batman took Black Mask down, Joker's like "OK, now we do it *my* way!"

The main sin of this game is that Arkham Origins doesn’t have a remaster.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="882">14:42</a> Regarding the Harley/Joker continuity, I have a potential fix for that. Their first meeting happened at Blackgate, and it of course was also her start down the road to becoming Harley. We also know that Harley and Harleen had some pretty intense internal identity struggles in the Arkhamverse thanks to her DLC in Knight. And probably most importantly, we do not know when exactly the Asylum interview tapes were recorded. To make things work, we're going to assume that her employment at Arkham, and thus those interview tapes, happened pretty early in the time between Origins and Asylum. At this point, Harley did not have a criminal history. Joker could have had his goons take the fall for some of the early crimes she committed. And even in instances when it was known it was a female that committed a particular crime, that's not an issue either. In the sewers in Asylum, Joker makes a "generous offer" to punish one of his goons, by having their wife's knees broken. So for a crime that a goon wouldn't be able to take the fall for, Joker would frame one of the goon's female family members instead. Harley would of course see this as Joker "protecting" her, but it would all be a part of his plan - to get Harley a job at Arkham as a psychiatrist, so she would have in-depth knowledge of the layout, security systems, and procedures. And at least for some time before getting caught working with Joker, she would be able to bring him any items he might need for his next scheme. So the interview tapes in Asylum _would_ in fact be them roleplaying. As per Arkham Asylum not knowing that Harleen already met and interviewed Joker at Blackgate, that was a _very_ crazy night. Lots of things were destroyed, including any records of that initial interview.

I think the Dark Knight Challenges deserves a honorable mention or at least bring up the Worst Nightmare challenges. The biggest problem with them is that you can’t complete them from respawning enemies in old predator encounters or even the challenge maps. Worst part about this is that you can’t get the Sonic Shock Batarang WHICH IS LITERALLY A STAR IN A PREDATOR CHALLENGE. If Origins somehow gets a remaster, they really need to redesign the Dark Knight Challenges and make it possible to beat it

Something I'd kind of like as Black Mask being the main villain is actually showing him getting his mask fused to his face.

I’ve a few of my own ideas for the Black Mask rewrite, since it’s a very interesting take on the story. Black Mask could have a primary motive to force the police and criminals (mainly Penguin) into a long lasting conflict so he can seize power in Gotham, taking full control of the city as he buys off the remaining segments of both ends. This’ll set Roman’s point of view to be one of power and control of others, something that darkly mirrors Batmans current methods of fear and pushing others away. Roman seeks to use people for his own gain, Bruce needs to learn that he needs to allow people to aid him for the benefit of everyone. During the first Blackgate riot, the murder of Lobe and attempted killing of Warden Joseph initially seems to be instigated by the Penguin. This is the final straw to push the GCPD into war with The Penguin. Batman, however, will catch Roman leaving before you fight Croc. The rest of the game continues as normal, I like the idea of Roman faking his death, framing Penguin to pressure him more. Roman will leave a hidden message for Batman to come to the bank, and I think we can fit a nice character beat in here. He stages an ambush at his bank because, before he springs the trap, he attempts to buy off Batman, believing everyone has a price. This obviously doesn’t work and we continue as normal. I really like the heartbeat thing with Bane, so maybe we can rewrite it so Bane has rigged some of the cells to explode, with prisoners trapped inside, Loose Lips can be shown as one of them for the fun of him reappearing, potentially even other villains from side quests like hatter depending if you do them. This pressures Bruce into the whole ‘someone will die’ situation and lead to the scene with Gordon. But now he needs his aid to stop Roman. The final change I’d make would be think final confrontation. Batman and Gordon actually take him down together, with Batman triggering Roman into a monologue that ‘everyone has a price’ and how ‘the entire city will work for me’ of which Gordon will record in secret for evidence, foiling Roman’s plan to start a war. He’s detained for good this time and curses out Gordon’s nature as a truly good cop, saying that he was the ‘only one who wouldn’t take the money.’ Gives Jim some good spotlight to lead into his closing monologue.

The first time I played origins I genuinely thought I was using the concussion detonator wrong because of how little it did

There's also plenty of glitches where I can be hit without the hit animation occurring, bird gang fights just not appearing after the radio call for them, black gate prisoners not appearing, and black gate drug smuggling also not appearing

The glitch portion is SO true! The only ever glitches I get with Knight are random crashes with the Batmobile, and that's it. I never have anything unless I'm trying to do a lot with the Batmobile and my entire game just breaks to the point of needing a console restart, and that's usually while leaving the GCPD. Origins, however, that game has so many glitches I'd end up having to restart my save file when doing some side quests, especially with Data Handlers and investigations. It sucks finishing a combat section, only for my endless presses of the Y button or the triangle button to do absolutely nothing to the last man standing. And then I'd have to restart my checkpoint to restart the entire combat section, or the entire side mission altogether. Oh yeah, and the concussion detonator is surprisingly less useless than I initially thought. It still sucks, though!

GREAT VIDEO! Two Things I would’ve put: 1) The fact that the game forces you to choose certain upgrades in order to get other upgrades that are unrelated is annoying. 2) Worst Nightmare Challenge….. without respawning thugs in indoor areas that can be used for each challenge.

I would say Joker should have been one of the assassins hired by Black Mask that we later find out about. He is crazy so in the end when Bane is probably capturing us to present to Black Mask, Joker goes crazy and kills him for no reason other than he has taken an interest in Batman's moral code. Now deciding he wanted to have his own fun with Batman, he decides to kill black mask and bane goes after the Joker for ruining his chances of getting paid. He throws joker off the building and Batman goes to save him, continuing the scene where batman did save joker in Origins.

Damn do i love how they introduced the joker in this game and i loved the game itself. Lets be honest who doesnt like free flow combat with gadgets and you are THE BATMAN. WB Montreal, great work.

The biggest problem with Origins is absolutely the bugs. It was absolutely riddled with them on launch and to this day isn't in a great state. (albeit far better than launch) On my first play through when I was 80% of the way through the main storyline my save file was corrupted, which ended up killing the games reputation for me. I can handle lag, bad physics, and pop in, but I cannot forgive save file corruption. I do absolutely love the multiplayer mode to death though.

During that one part where you have to jump out of a window from an explosion in the hotel section, I misssed the grapple, but instead of dying, I landed on something, and the game registered that as me landing in the hotel, and the game saved. So I got softlocked. I couldn’t grapple back up, so I was stuck. And I didn’t feel like doing the whole game again I never beat the game after that. At least I’ve beaten it before

I think cool idea would be revealing Joker to be one of assassins, and in Grand Hotel he along with Bane would overthrow Black Mask. This would set up finale, how Joker became powerful mob boss and how Black Mask becamse so pathetic in this saga

Arkham Origins is my favorite in the series. But when you talked about how unfinished the game is, I flashed back to how in my copy, the data pack handler for data pack 12 (aka the bridge which is by far the most annoying) never spawned, even though the games map stated he had. I had to find every file manually which wasn’t that bad but it could’ve been way easier had the game been tested more thoroughly

I’ve encountered four glitches. The unable to interrogate the crook, can’t press the big buttons to get the data pack, beating a crook and they sent flying upwards, and Batman glide fish flop Idk if anyone has the last two, but I know I enjoyed them because of how stupid funny they were

I think I am pretty conflicted on how I feel, because how they *did* explore the joker+batman origins was done incredibly well, but also the premise of a non-joker or pre-joker setting where batman has to deal with some of the more obscure or less-mainstream (or at least less so than the joker) crooks, that are still incredibly dangerous to require the plot, sounds equally pretty fun! They could've even done a whole Joker easter egg afterwards if it was pre-joker, like something referencing a comedy scene or the ace chemicals incident as redhood.

I like the increased size of the map, but the new buildings and areas are less distinct and more bland than city imo.

Personally I do count Origins as a retcon not because I don't love the story but there are things that don't really fit. As a smaller but annoying one: It's a Riddler Challenge to take a photo of Commissioner Gordon's parking spot in City. A station we go back to multiple times but in Origins that station doesn't exist. Instead of Krank Toys & the old GCPD we have the docks with the GCPD already being located across the river in an old rundown skyscraper that they've apparently been using for decades. They didn't just reuse & revitalize the map, they restructured entirely

I liked the fact that Joker was in origins because it was the birth of the relationship between him and Batman, but I do agree with the fact that it pushes the main plot aside at the same time. Maybe they should’ve kept Black Mask as the villain and left Joker absent then made a sequel about Joker

While I do like what you pitched without Joker, I think it would be fun to just have him as an assassin. You could keep Black mask still in power, but also keep the royal the same by saying Sionis gave Joker some of his men. After that you could basically leave Joker out of the rest of the story and have everything else you said happen. Oh and Joker would be killing electricutioner just for fun(if you were wondering).

I played this game for the first time on Christmas Eve so I was actually playing it when the game was set. Other than Croc being transparent, the only glitch I encountered was when I went to get the Extortion File from the back room of the My Alibi bar after defeating Bird. It didn't load the textures correctly so it was blank. And when I restarted, I was now permanently glitched through the floor and was just falling endlessly into the void, even after resetting. Fortunately, I found a solution. If you are stuck like this, do a challenge map and win so you gain XP. Then log back into where you are falling and wait until the game shows you earning the XP. Then reset again and the textures should load correctly this time. I was able to do this and successfully get the Extortion File without being permanently softlocked.

This rewrite is amazing. I think the subtle character details you added in sounds really great

there is precisely 1 bug i often encounter in this game, it's this thing where i get halfway done with the riddler mission but suddenly i am unable to access the south side of the map to get the rest of the breakables and collectables

Honestly, a way where they could still have the Joker as the final big bad but keep to the Black Mask story? Do your changes until Blackgate. Now, instead of a prison break, an inmate civil war breaks out due to some new upstart causing havoc. And said upstart is the Joker. Have Batman go there, and then have Black Mask temporarily ally with the bat to take out the insane loon to further show Batman had earned Black Mask's respect. But have the classic "Once we're done here, we're no longer friends" deal.

So I had never experienced a major glitch in Arkham Origins until recently. I had made a new save file and had gotten to the part where you go to the sewers under the GCPD and the game froze. Then when I tried to reload the game it would freeze in the loading screen each time, so I had to delete the save file. One of the most frustrating glitches I've encountered in a game.

I like to think that if Arkham origins came out today exactly as it is now (with the exception of graphics tuned to the standards of games today) it would have been received much more positively, it’s a good game that came out near the end of the golden age of gaming and people’s expectations were still too high especially coming out only two years after city, we were too spoiled back then to appreciate what we got

Just another props to give wb montreal (which is where I'm from btw) is that they actually did a decent job by letting us fight slade and some other really cool villains, unlike rocksteady who gave us a sorry excuse for a "boss battle" between you and slade

I like to think this true they did meet Blackgate but when Arkham opened Joker was moved and she stayed, so she interviewed at Arkham to meet him again and Joker was just pretending like it was their first

The other major annoyance that I've never seen anyone talk about is the respawning snipers in the Diamond District. Two on the roof of the radio tower, two on other rooftops nearby, and whichever one you go after first, there will be at least one other taking shots at you. I'm actually very glad that there are so many fast travel points because it means that I can move between the other districts on the south island without having to glide through Sniperville and get half my health bar shot off.

My Rankings of the games so far are. 1. Arkham Knight, had great gameplay, and a villain that was as good as Joker. A lot of people myself included really hated the Batmobile parts of the game but on my second playthrough years later I Love those parts now. Overall 9/10 with a medal of Best Gameplay of the series. 2. Arkham City, had great story, great boss fights, a killer ending, and great twists. I don't think anyone really disliked anything in this game, other then me that is, I hated the Catwoman sections, it's now like they were hard it's that they were boring. Overall 8/10 with the medal of Best Story of the series. 3. Arkham Origins, Origins had a good story, great boss fights, and great combat. One of the things I disliked most about Origins is that Joker was the main baddy the whole time, the Boss fights were amazing tho, best in the series hands down. Overall 8/10 with the medal of Best Boss fights of the series. (personal favorite boss is Death Stroke, he just to cool lol.) 4. Arkham Asylum, Asylum had a decent story, decent boss fights, and decent gameplay. The only saving Grace for Asylum is the attention to detail, they really went all out on building a great atmosphere, every villain was in this game whether you got to fight them or not. Overall 7/10 Still a solid game, Asylum earned the Medal of Atmosphere for not only the Arkham games but for every game I have ever played (and I have played a lot). Sorry for the long ass comment but I do really like the Arkham games and I love talking about them.

The thing about the Joker is that they kind of had to include him in this game. How does one make an origin story about a superhero without including that character's most infamous enemy, especially when that origin story is a prequel to two other games where that enemy is established to be the most important? It would just be a bit ridiculous not to have him there. Of course, him, Black Mask, and Bane could have all been working together as the main villains, or they all could have had their own, equally important roles in the game as separate enemies. Regardless, you can't really ignore the Joker in Arkham Batman's origin story. He's just too important in Asylum and City.

Now, hear me out, what if Joker was one of the assasins, but Sionis was the actual main villain. We could still get the Joker and Harley scene and maybe the festive Hotel stuff if we stretch it, but we would get a Black Mask story too.

Funny enough despite knowing how buggy Arkham origins can be I really haven’t experienced too many myself. I think that’s just dumb luck on my part, but the only thing I can think of that happened to me during my latest play through the game last week was the game crashed when I used the grapnel boost as the game was entering a save state. Of course that’s annoying but I couldn’t tell if that was because of the game or because the PlayStation 3 couldn’t handle it. Again I’m not denying the games buggy I just think it’s funny that I really haven’t run into that many issues with the game. Apart from that I did see the glitch where you can Bat-Claw enemies off the GCPD roof, however I don’t really count that since you have to actively choose to activate that glitch, as it’s not something you would normally do.

Thank you so much for Still making Arkham Content and keeping the hype real 😊❤

That black mask as main villain take of yours is just super awesome

Clownpuncher139 a glitch I encountered was infinite shock gloves, the meter never went down

Honestly, I think Joker could have worked better in Origins as not the main villain, at least not how he was, rather he takes over as an assassin after electrocutioner fails so quickly. Then have Joker as the secret extra assassin that comes in at the end after black mask is taken down. Maybe even show Joker take over after sionis is in jail. That could explain why Joker has so many followers out of the gate. Perhaps have Joker and Bane fight it out to see who controls Gotham, with batman being forced to conceded that Joker can leave and continue on as a crime boss when bane attacks Wayne manor, probably when he finally had Joker in his grip. Then at the very end, have some kind of symbolic thing to show how batman and Joker are both important for each other, perhaps have Joker use his influence to help batman take down the final boss battle of Bane

I loved ur alternate story without the joker. One thing I would change is that after black mask is apprehended by Batman, black mask is no longer the main villain and is replaced with bane. Ik this will still be disappointing because of how the game was advertised but seeing how bane was handled in this game he could for sure be a super engaging main antagonist

I feel like that scene with Donkey from Shrek 1, going 'oh me, pick me' because I played origins on ps3 without the internet so no updates at all and have never encountered a single bug or glitch while playing

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="713">11:53</a> I swear to Christopher Nolan's Batman, I've never had any glitch in Arkham knight. Thats part of why it is one of my fav game all time.

Friendly reminder that there were only 4 years between City and Knight. Joker’s focus in Origins likely didn’t influence his ininclusion in Knight at all; we’d have heard about such a drastic development shift by now (nearly a decade after Knight) if Origins had caused it. That kind of shakeup wouldn’t have stayed quiet for this long.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="974">16:14</a> the concussion detonator is basically just a worse smoke grenade with no cooldown. one thing it is useful for though it taking down the group of armed swat members in the gcpd you're supposed to sneak past.

The fact the Wii U version of the game wast the most stable for weeks after launch is still the funniest thing about this series

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="750">12:30</a> I’ve had something similar. In one of those optional crime combat sections, the last guy clipped into a cop car and was invincible.

Speaking of the many glitches in this game I had a terrible one. During one of my playthroughs of I AM THE KNIGHT, I completed the Firefly boss fight but got a game over screen after the cut scene with Gordon played out. I had to restart again and it pissed me off so much.

I managed to play a game of Origins without glitches, although I remember playing it back in like 2013 and getting a bug that stopped progression in Penguin's ship

The most funniest glitch in Arkham origins is what I like to call "the backrooms" basically you defeat an enemy and they fall out of bounds. I don't know what causes it but it does occurs randomly.

Your take on how Roman could've been the main villain is absolutely stellar

Honestly i was really bummed when Sionis got shafted. Black Mask is one of my favourite villains and works so well for a story like this.

Joker didn’t send the assassins after Batman because he was interested in him. I don’t think he really gave a shit about Batman until Batman saves him. That action made Joker question him and that in turn unraveled into the obsession.

i personally don't have any issue with the bridge, but what does annoy me is the huge building to the left of shedon park that you can't climb or glide over and have to glide around to reach or leave the north west of gotham without a fast travel. this one annoys me more because it's just not necessary. why did they not allow us to just grapple to the top or something?

“Good day chaps’ it’s I” will never get old

i hadd a glitch in cold cold heart where i couldnt grapple up towards where the penguin is with freeze. i tried basically everything including wall jumping but had to restart the dlc from the start lmao

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bro the amount of times I got irritated at the remote claw 😡 wanted to chuck the controller ridiculous

I agree with the changes but I would add a side quest at ace chemicals with a crime scene scan where you discover someone fell in a vat

They didn't even need to remove the Joker completely from the game just not make him the main villain. A side quest where you fight him as the Red Hood gang boss or even incorporate Joker's Comedian Origin into the story or technically both since he was forced to wear Red Hood's costume during the robbery of Ace Chemicals in his Comedian backstory.

I actually had no glitches in Knight or Origins. Knight basically at all, Origins only in post game where one of the prisoners didnt really spawn in. I've maybe seen more but nothing enough to remember

As a Wondershare Filmora veteran, I can identify every type of text and effect present here.

Not if the bug forces you restart the whole game. The firefly battle at the bridge, after I saved the hostages and stopped the bomb you ad to grapple up in the bridge, but it didn't allow me to do that and I needed up falling and went into an inescapable void. Had to delete the save and start over. Needless to say, I was very angry at that outcome and every time I replay the same I'm terrified that will happen to me again.

I personally love that the whole Arkham series is about batman and joker’s relationship and that the origins is about the origins of Batman and joker’s relationship, Batman and Alfred’s relationship, joker and Harley, and the old asylum’s reopening, I think the only reasons that people were/are mad about joker being the main villain is because franchise fatigue and the advertising

They could have still had joker in the game, just make him one of the assassins out to get you

I like your idea, except I'd have joker be some random henchman black mask has, one who's particularly tricky and lays some traps for batman during the blackgate part, eventually baricading himself in a secure room, only for batman to fill the room with laughing gas, at the end, the scene with harley would be a post credits type of thing, with that henchman having lost all sanity and memory, with only the batman stuff in his mind

I understand how people could get fed up with joker, but I’ve always considered the Arkham games to be as much jokers story as it is Batman’s, I’ve never minded his inclusion in this game and Knight

I think Joker should've had just a dlc like harley in city / freeze in origins

My only additions would be the revamped upgrades forcing you to by armor instead of the ones you want. The other one is the stupid dark knight challenges some of witch if you don’t do them early enough you can’t do them all on that file potentially locking you out of upgrades. I have other personal gripes with the game but I’ll leave it there.

I think we should have gotten story DLC much like Cold, Cold Heart with Joker as the main villain.

Maybe I’m just insanely lucky. But I can’t recall a single glitch from Arkham Origins. I can’t speak for the other versions. But the Wii U version runs great. Too bad we never got Cold Cold Heart on it

I remember when I first played origins it was so glitchy that I thought the electrocutioner was just another glitched fight

Thoughts on the version of the grappnel accelerator being pretty much the same as the Grappnel boost from City, when that was a brand new prototype?

my first time playing Origins, one door would for some reason always load the side I just left. then when I restarted the checkpoint, it just loaded nothing, forcing me to restart the whole run

I remember i ran into this glitch in Arkham Origins where some of Batman's Equipment were missing and prevented me from progressing, meaning i had to replay the entire game all over again. I was lucky to complete the whole game in one day tho (including I am the knight mode)

It'd cool if WB Montreal had been able to make two games. Arkham Origins which could have been focused completely on Roman Sionis with a plot similar to what you described, and then later they could've made a sequel, somewhere between Origins and Asylum, where they pretend it's Black Mask or someone else as the main villain and then do a rug pull, because the Joker was well done, just should've maybe not been a main facet of a game marketed with Black Mask in mind.

I wish joker was handled like Hugo from AC. With him mainly taking center stage at the hotel. So we could still have that Blackgate ending.

Honestly Black Mask should have been the main villain but at the end there is a little epilogue gameplay section where Batman is investigating a break-in at ACE Chemicals, but a man wearing a red bucket like mask ends up falling into the toxic waste before Batman can save him. It then cuts to outside the pipe where the man removes the red mask and sees his new face and let’s out a cold laugh. That’s how Joker should have been in the game, just a little cameo at the end which explains the origins of Joker in Arkham Origins.

My main complaint is there seems to be NO grapple locations leaving you stranded spamming RB

Honestly with some more tweaks to the story, they could’ve done both of these stories. It would result in a slightly longer game, but that’s better than just shoving Black Mask to the side completely

The first time i played arkham orgins which was also my first arkham game i got softlocked im not sure what exactly happened because it was a long time ago but a cutscene never triggered and i was permanently stuck in the hotel and couldn't progress even if i reloaded a checkpoint or restarted the mission. Made me come back after a few weeks completely restart the game and beat it in one night and is still one of my favorite games and the first game i ever got to 100% completion.

The multiplayer for this game was popping when it launched

The only time I found a game breaking glitch was when I went to interrogate someone and it just wouldn’t let me. Other times the only glitches would be where it would just look like the thug was still fighting but it was counted as knocked out

I’ve started playing the game recently, and the best way I can describe it is “A movie studio makes a game”.

The contradiction with Harley meeting Joker before the asylum is reopened is annoying but this is how I see it: What Arkham asylum was being made they wanted the continuity to feel very familiar and by extension included things from other Batman continuities. This of course lead to inconsistencies with later titles, such as Hugo strange already being stated to be unknown part of Batman‘s rogues gallery in his character file despite the fact his first official thought with the Dark Knight wouldn’t be until the next game. (Obviously he was probably corrupt before that but Batman wouldn’t have directly come to the blues with him yet.) So how I see it is, the tapes and files are canon unless they’re contradicted with later information. Obviously it’s not the best explanation, and it definitely doesn’t justify a the inconsistency in game, but I think that’s the most rational way to look at it.

I'm sure you've heard this a lot but you're one of the most underrated RU-vidrs I've ever seen.

I beg to differ. The joker is a very good addition to this game. It's the fact that the audience had enough of him from other games pushed the adds campaign towards the blatant lie. Otherwise, his presence is very perfect. In fact, he is the only villian from Batman's roster that has such profound effect on the dark knight. Even when a new villian is introduced to almost topple the bat, but eventually being defeated, the joker comes to top all that effort. Hugo Starnge and Protocol 10 - killing Talia and dying. Scarecrow gasses Gotham - Joker takes over Batman's body. Even in the comics, correct me if I am wrong, after the Court of Owls does what it does, the Joker kidnaps the whole Batfamily, and causes Bruce's amnesia. There is noone who could stand at Batman's Origins story as joker. Especially in arkhamverse. I also wanted to add something you have missed. It is the very anticlimactic ending of the riddler side mission. The guy has the extortion info on everybody, makes us run over the map collecting his awful trophies, so we could see him be gone?! Lame. We didn't see how he become so unhindged in the later games. And we never had a satisfaction of bringing him to justice. Even the asylum has the audio of police ambusing him. And fun fact, you had to use a glitch to get over another glitch to complete this game😅

This video is 20 Minutes too Long Clownpuncher. The Only Sin relating to this game is the fact it hasn’t had a Remaster yet.

I would have to disagree on the Joker being removed. Why I believe this? A lot of amazing scenes only exist because of Joker. And at the end of the day if we excluded Knight which at the time wasn't made, it would have shown the full story of Joker, his beginning and his end. And including Knight we see the beginning of Batman and the beginning of the Joker in Origins, and in Knight we see them both "die". And while Joker isn't needed per say in Origins, his addition ties the full story together perfectly.

Last time I tried playing through this game I got through the merchant bank section and than when I came back it said I had a corrupted save and I couldn’t continue that play through. I’m not sure if that was a glitch with the game, something with my 360, or something I did wrong. All I know for sure is I was royally pissed

To be honest the fact that Black Masks henchmen betraying him is kinda embarrassing for a man who is one of the most powerful men in Gotham City

I prefer the origins version of Harley’s backstory. The asylum tapes were just a worse version of mad love with Arleen Sorkin doing a worse job.