It's also reminded them of Original JoyBoy Nika too, the Flame and that Pipe he hold, it's similar like their Arch-Enemy and his spear like weapon. It's angered them. Also reminded them of Ace son of Roger they ordered the execution to.
This is what I think it was. It had nothing to do with Sabo or the DF. It's the fact that for the first time in 800 years someone dared to strike at him.
it could be a king type of deal he hated when zoro sliced off his mask and reviled his true identity so imu showed himself to corbra on purpose because he wanted him to see because hes gonna die but now someone else seen his image without his permission so he would be piss about his image being reviled and spared like wild fire which is what happened
The story of Lili and Joyboy becoming allies might end up mirroring Alabasta: ViVi was introduced as an antagonist but eventually changed sides to Luffy's crew, the details might be different but the main point is that a Nefertari changes sides and becomes nakama to the person who saved/helped them(Luffy inviting ViVi to join the crew could mirror how people would receive the D initial which is hinted at in the flashback when Ace gives it to Sabo, Joyboy gives that initial to his nakama regardless of blood or race)
Imagining Luffy picking his nose with his pinky in the throne room, asking Imu if they poop. The camera zooms out as everyone is frozen in place by the sheer audacity and stupidity of this question. The gorosei and Imu stand there with blank expressions on their faces. Even the straw hats standing behind Luffy are at a total loss for words. The tension is simultaneously sky high and dead in the water. Nami shrivels up and dies of cringe.
Doflamingo was a Celestial Dragon and he knew the secret of the National Treasure of Mariejois. So yeah, I think it's obvious he knew Imu exists as that's why he wanted the Ope Ope Fruit so he could swap bodies with Imu and take over the world or destroy it from there.
@Katakuri Fan True. But if he switched bodies with Imu, he would become immortal plus become King of the World as he told Law he could have taken the world had he gotten his hands on the Ope Ope Fruit.
@@BlackangelKatakuri Dofy specifically said that if only he had both the ability to become immortal AND the personality swap ability of the OPOP fruit on "that day". he Might have also planned to make himself immortal and swap some1 else into IMUs body with personality swap, a person he can control from .. behind-behind the scenes i guess ?
I'm glad you brought up Sabo taking damage. I noticed Sabo's pain when I read the chapter and was surprised all the chapter reviews had nothing to say about it. Sabo is pretty strong, so doing damage to him in a single attack means something.
The tail stabbed through Cobra which then went through Sabo as well. Of course Sabo is not gonna transform into his element while he's carrying another dude on his back.
@@Tyler_Frenzynot really, tough cobra couldnt dodge, sabo could. If he was capable, but he isnt. The point oda made is that imu has some devilish ability judging by the tail and can damage a guy who van pretty well be compared to a yonkou. Sabo right now can stomp any commander
@@kollen5952 I see wym, but at the same time none of them sensed sabo was there at the first place. Imo the chapter was too chaotic to definitively say something
*Vulture related comment:* Growing up in/around Seattle I learned a lot about Native American history and folklore. One of my favorite stories is how the sun once fell out of the sky, and a lot of animals look the way they do now because they all took turns carrying the sun for a time till it got back. Like the ancestor of all foxes having black gums because he held it too long in his mouth. Vulture, in this story, once had a beautiful mane of feathers, but resting the sun on his head as he brought it back to it's place caused them to all burn away. Now all cultures are bald. I really recommend looking it up
i have a problem with the "Imu is Mother Ocean" theory, and that is Boa's backstory. It is said there that the Tenryuubito fed Devil Fruits to slaves just for the fun of it, but considering that this all happened in Mariejois, and i doubt that any Tebryuubito would ever care about doing anything in secret, then would said Mother Ocean really allow people to mess around with the thing she hates the most, in such a stupid and useless way, and on her own backyard no less?
True and even if someone has the power to control the sea why that person will fear the ancestral weapons when you literally can obliterated your enemies moving the ocean to your command
I believe (and its greatly hinted) that Imu represents the devil in some capacity. I believe that HE may be the devil who incarnated himself in the "devilfruits". We're also told that Mother Ocean hates the devil, his devilfruits, and anyone who eats them, thus punishing them by causing them to be powerless in water. So wouldn't it make sense that Imu is the devil, as his name "imu" is literally umi in reverse, he's literally the opposite of Mother Ocean, a figure of benevolence, and he's a figure of malevolence. It also makes sense that Imu is the "devil", as he lives at the top of the red line, as far away from the ocean as you can be.
@@jabby4201If you really wanna propose that the ocean is "benevolent" ... You're either disingenuous or just stupid. The ocean isn't out here to help and support you.
I definitely like the idea of imu being 100% against devil fruits and that being linked to the fruits being affected by water. The dreams of the people and the all powerful smothering darkness of imu opposing that its got some good themes to it
It makes sense thematically but I'm getting tired of all these "powerful haki, no devil fruit needed" characters, I just want to see magic pirates fight each other with wacky powers
I think that Im-sama got so angry beacouse Sabo wasn't supposed to be there. Also Imu probably got angry bcs Sabo saw them and Imu stayed a little to process what happened. I want to mention the fact that when the Gorosei transformed into their shadow forms they didn't seem very happy about that ,like those from Impel Down. Maybe the Gorosei awakened their devil fruits like those from Impel Down and Imu can transform them when he/she wants to.
It's also reminded them of Original JoyBoy Nika too, the Flame and that Pipe he hold, it's similar like their Arch-Enemy and his spear like weapon. It's angered them. Also reminded them of Ace son of Roger they ordered the execution to.
Idk about them having devil fruits, I would be pretty disappointed if it turned out the literal rulers of the world being regular humans like the blue sea people if that was the case, Litterally the strongest people in one piece can defeat the WG easily lol
@@KatieHuni Yeah....about that. If the Devil Fruits are what some people are theorizing, it isn't like regular humans. In fact, its kind of utter madness if it turns out to be true. That they all have godly Mythical Zoans. It would mean that Kaido was effectively trying to climb the tower they were already standing at the top of. He wanted Yamato to be the god of Wano, when they're already the gods of the Red Line.
Thinking about the whole Imu's monster form and how that tail attack looks and how angry he got when Sabo started throwing around fire, what if rather than being the avatar of Mother Ocean and hating the existence of devil fruits, Imu is the devil that created the fruits. What if it wasn't anger at the use of a devil fruit in general but the fact that Sabo was using one of Imu's own fruits against him?
this is a copy from a different reply but: I believe (and its greatly hinted) that Imu represents the devil in some capacity. I believe that HE may be the devil who incarnated himself in the "devilfruits". We're also told that Mother Ocean hates the devil, his devilfruits, and anyone who eats them, thus punishing them by causing them to be powerless in water. So wouldn't it make sense that Imu is the devil, as his name "imu" is literally umi in reverse, he's literally the opposite of Mother Ocean, a figure of benevolence, and he's a figure of malevolence. It also makes sense that Imu is the "devil", as he lives at the top of the red line, as far away from the ocean as you can be.
I love the idea of Imu having like an Ink Ink fruit, and literally being able to manipulate what's written down. Wiping an island off the map. Rewriting the elder star's physical forms. Wiping out a century of written history. What if that's why the history had to be written in poneglyph? That's why it was able to survive.
Wouldn't be surprising his Im/Imu had a Void Void fruit or something. But they may have a power that's outside the normal power systems that OP normally has. (I.E. Devil Fruits, Haki, etc.)
That's Amazing XD! Mugiwara no Goofy is NO JOKE, the FIRST RU-vid channel I've seen from the recent wave of small one video channel suggestions that I actually love. I was wondering how long it would be until anyone in the established OP reviewing community took notice, of course Tekking is the first I've seen mention him lol. I was so sad when I checked the account and saw only one video, but he's been so consistent and on point with every upload. Tekking gets it. LMAO I remember when TEKKING only had a handful out. They are both on that same "underrated real ones" energy.
My understanding: Being a D doesn't mean much today, but back 800 years ago, being a D meant you were an active enemy/combatant against god/Imu. What Lili did with the ponyglyphs was worst case scenario for Imu and they have been spending 800 years thinking it was a "mistake" and an isolated event - Lili was a founding member of the World Government after all. With this Chapter, we witness Imu realizing that not only were the ponyglyphs part of a larger plan directly targeting Imu, but one of the founding members of their power base was a spy and a traitor. This just elevated what was already a "worst case scenario" to something far worse.
My thought after seeing Imu’s appearances and understanding the way they speak from Artur is that Imu is going to turn out to be a Little girl. An ancient little girl with immense power, think Ophis from High school DxD
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Imu parallels that I don’t see people talking about and I really would like to hear others’ thoughts on: Oda often uses previous arcs to parallel or invert especially post vs pre time skip So let’s look at 1085, Imu and Blackbeard In 1085, a powerful darkness is confronted by fire aka light. Imu and the elders vs Sabo - referencing Banaro and Blackbeard vs Ace (who even used flame emperor as a move). Who will win, the dark or the sun/light. Chapters 440-441 In 1085, a sick man enters a conflict he knows will likely be his last, speaks of a major taboo, and dies standing after a final blow from a powerful darkness. Cobra, referencing Whitebeards final moments in the Paramount War 1085 also gives us another example of a betrayal - Lily’s betrayal of Imu and/or the 20 kingdoms. I’ve been looking at how this parallels Alabasta (Cobra made to look like a traitor to his people bc of Crocodile’s schemes), Dressrosa (king riku and doffy’s manipulation), and even Wano (the kozuki’s fall from the shogunate at the hands of Orochi and co) There’s also potential parallels between figures like Vivi/Ms. Wednesday, Viola and Hiyori in those arcs connecting to Lily (undercover agents/turncoats within evil organizations). Plus something about how the wording around D being husks of what they once were or unaware of their truth smacks of what Sugar did to the toys… what if the void in history is owing to the fact that the ancient kingdom was destroyed when the D clan were made to somehow forget themselves? (Hiriluk’s quote about true death being when a man is forgotten comes to mind…) Apologies for the super long comment but recent chapters have been too good not to talk about and there’s been so much good coverage but I haven’t seen these threads picked up on!!
Man I love how even after years tekking wont ask u to subscribe or like but will promote others channels cause he loved them as a fan himself. Always classy.
I think that imu could have some type of void void fruit allowing him/her to open voids and become voids(sort of like black holes but literal nothingness) and can swallow things up kind of like a pocket dimension it would make sense how they were able to swallow up sabos fire attack so easily since a void is nothingness the fire was turned into nothingness. It would in theory be the better version of Blackbeard’s fruit. Also I think the awakening for this devil fruit would be that your body can become a void Rather than you just creating them.
Ever since I saw IM’s eyes I immediately thought of Judge Doom from “Who Framed Roger Rabit?”, and Luffy’s gear 5 form just makes me wanna double down on that thought.
A hito hito model ‘Devil’ would be able to make deals… This “blunder” made by lili could have been a bad deal and ultimately gave hope back to the world
With Imu referring to themself as just Mu, it makes me wonder if the I is an honorific prefix of some sort that the Gorosei are using when they refer to them, kinda like O-Lin and O-tama.
You talking about the gorosei being parts or at least somewhat related to Im has got me thinking about 2 things: 1. Isnt it possible that his full name would be Dracule Im, and that Mihawk is a very far off decendant, which is why Oda wasnt keen on revealing his name yet. Or 2. What if all the Gorosei and Im are of the Garcia family, where Im's existance is basically a secret passed through the Garcia lineage. I still think its odd for both Mihawk and Im being the only 2 people with those pupils. It either has to be something passed on genetically, or it has to indicate complete mastery of something like haki
Maybe lili scattered the poneglyphs with the paw paw fruit, the fact that the paw paw fruit can make bubbles of peoples memories has me convinced that someone from the void century had the fruit and the strawhats are gonna find the memories of someone from that era and i think lili is the perfect candidate since she also has something to do eith getting the poneglyphs into the world
Perhaps Imu has the true Dark-dark fruit and BB has the artificial or downgraded version. If these aren’t silhouettes, it looks like Imu is controlling/shaping darkness like a normal logia would
@@Beta_Kiryu a lot of people would disagree with that just because u dislike doesn't mean everyone else should just stop watching or reading one piece Opinions differ from people to people but u should not force them onto others
@@Beta_Kiryu again that's an opinion If u dislike it that much why r u here on video that is about one piece I mean ur acting like the idiots on Twitter
See Ive just had this weird feeling like Imu was just the last in line to plunge the sword and after all others had vowed to never sit on the throne, Imu just walked up and sat down and plunged their sword saying "Thank you, I pledge myself to sitting upon this throne." and then everyone else just kinda went "shit..."
Can't wait to get the update video in a whole long week Jokes aside. The world government as well as imu will probably get the most update videos with how much we are learning with Seraphims and such.
I loved the vulture facts so much and holy hell their stomach’s acidity is insane Just a note for Tekking and all those confused, when it comes to pH scale a difference of 1 is equivalent to 10x Because the pH scale is logarithmic Therefore, the concentration of ions in vultures stomaches is 10 times more than an acid with pH = 1 and that would be 10 times more than pH = 2 etc etc
I like the idea of Imu being ‘Mother Nature’ somehow, but that it seems more likely that Imu took this role on after eating a devil fruit like Blackbeard’s that’s deemed the strongest devil of all. Like if Imu ate the Devil Devil fruit or the Fruit Fruit fruit or something that gives him power over other fruit users specifically. This seems likely cause of Oda’s love for wordplay and Imu being Umi backwards. However I think it’s not that Imu causes pain to them, but it’s like when seaprison stone touches a user. Their power is nullified and they are unable to move, which would explain why it hurt Sabo more and why he just collapsed immediately.
The real question is whether or not Sabo has a "Smother Mate" attack prepared or if he thought of it on the spot. I'm really not sure which is more impressive. He had no way of knowing there was a singular ruler of the world that would be sitting on the empty throne while surrounded by allies, but he also was probably on quite a bit of shock right before he attacked for similar reasons. So is Sabo just Batman levels of preparedness, or can Sabo just think of his feet so well that he could outwit the smartest man in the world, Kinemon?
smothered mate is a really clever attack name but the attack its self basically just looked like a fire fist idk, i think he thought of the name on the spot
On that like comical devil suggestion for Imu I do actually remember hearing a theory about that I believe by “the hidden island” but it was a theory proposing that perhaps the sun god Nika character never actually existed but in fact he was a comic book character from loooooong ago and after centuries of oppression n shit this happy go lucky comic about leaving the world smiling transformed into this liberating sun god and perhaps Imu is just then the goofy devil bad guy from the comic. And the only reason these beings exist now is because of human desires. While many desired nika to be real many would also cheer for the opposite side as shown with the sora comic and germa 66
Maybe Imu is quite literally a celestial dragon. His tail like arrow attack and ability to seemingly eat fire plusnit ties back to the celestial dragon title.
@@declanoconnor3445 Honestly I think he has a devil fruit rather than some weird ass ability like Tekking thinks. If Imu quite literally is that dude from 800 years ago who probably got the eternal youth surgery done on him or something, maybe he's some genetically modified human since Seraphim tech and tech overall was more advance back then
@@MilkyGlint I think he is that guy too, but as for his power source idk. He could have been the creator of the dark dark fruit maybe so maybe he has those powers, but then he would have to have died at some point if blackboard ate the fruit
I still expect Imus transformed form to be a dragon, I mean, they are, as far as we can tell, a TenRYUbito after all, a "sky-dragon person" to go with a more literal approach, and the general shape as well as being able to just eat fire could certainly check out there.
Was first introduced to Tekking through Rustage's one piece inspired D&D and I really want to get back into it to catch fully up! My own crazy theory is hoping that Imu is a sentient and living Devil fruit. So glad you gave Goofy a shoutout, he's blowing up and deserves every bit of it.
I do like the idea that Imu is or fused with a god of some kind. I have had a similar thought in the past, thinking that Imu was fused will the voice of world. I still think it has just as much chance as them seperating/wishing to seperate themselves from fate and the world itself. Either way, Imu is definitely a mortal given the lengths they go to show dominace and that they seperate/above all others. A true God wouldn't have a need of such reassurance, espically in private. Also, as you have stated Imu seems to have become complacent in their rule and blinded to much of what is going on around them. This is a big running theme, espically pre-time skip Villians, they all believe they are unstoppable.
Imu absorbed the people who laid their sword down and added their lives to his lifespan hence how he is alive. His power can absorb people into a “void” that allows him to steal life spans. Lili refused and did what she did and this is why imu refers to itself in the third person bc he his technically more than one person. Boom.
It makes me think of some liquid logia : the fact imu straight up ate the fire attack, the drop falling from the arrow before striking cobra, and the round or, well, liquid aspect of imu right after. (And sabo gets pierced right through despite him being kinda op) With the whole mother nature who hates devil fruit users thing and of course the dark visuals, I'd say the abyss fruit. Total darkness and water combined. That fits the final boss to me. And more importantly it's cool. With a cool name.
And it's basically the only way to have a coherent and cooler power than bb who has the freaking darkness fruit. Kind of a superior version he didn't know existed simply because nobody knows of it. And as blackbeard is a black hole which absorbs everything but especially light around it to grow bigger, imu would be more like the moon (or the abyss), it's dark until the sun shines on it, then it's beautiful :)
We know Shanks can use Conqueror’s Haki to nullify Observation Haki. This got me thinking that maybe Imu is capable of using Conqueror’s Haki to nullify all other types of Haki, essentially leaving their enemies defenseless.
That begs the question of how imu managed to stay alive for 800+ years and maintain his haki? That wouldn't make any sense if it was conquerors, I honestly like the idea of them not being regular human and have greater powers than them just having haki and devil fruits because that would ruin the idea of them being super strong beings that ruled the world for 800+ years by using haki and devil fruits when the blue sea people has those, I really bet it's a greater power than that, We can't compare the rulers of the world with basic powers that anybody can obtain
@@KatieHuni I can’t see that happening because Oda hasn’t set up anything like that. I believe that Imu and the Gorosei* have the highest tier of Devil Fruits as well as the most advanced Haki. At most Imu could be connected to the sea, but I think their power is going to be something like “the original Devil Fruit, the mythical Devil-Devil Fruit, model Sea Devil” or a Water Logia. What drives this home for me is the fact that Imu and the Celestial Dragons sit atop the Red Line, which is as far from the Ocean as they can physically get while remaining on the ground. If Imu really was an embodiment of the Ocean as a lot are speculating, I feel they would want to be closer to the sea. However, if Imu has the most devilish of Devil Fruits, then it makes sense that they would want to be separated as much as possible from the ocean hence why Marie Joise* is on top of the Red Line. As far as the 800+ years goes, I believe that’s why the Op-Op Fruit’s Immortal Life Surgery was introduced into the story. We’ve seen the loyalty and dedication the Gorosei have for Imu, so it’s incredibly likely Imu was able to manipulate or control a previous user to have the surgery done.
What if "D" stands for devil? That would prove Imu's stance against devil fruits even more. Furthermore, if the devil fruits were created from desires, what if that desire that created the devil fruits was "The Will of D", the will of devils or in other words their desire for freedom? Also remember how previous DF user's experiences are recorded into the devil fruits, wouldn't that kind of be something like a last will, something like: "The last will of the devil that is carried to the next generation of DF users is freedom"? Though only members of the "D" or devil family could properly inherit that desire/will. So the devil fruits are quite literally the fruits of the devil's imagination.
@@Beta_Kiryu yep just a blind fanboy I see. Not worth bothering reading these comments. I was expecting a bot not someone who is just wasting time trying a flame war. Goodbye
My heart hurts I got so excited to see thus video today cuz the other day in the live stream I asked tekking to look into shuimu and I so thought he would mention it 😢😢
This is my crazy theory for what Imu is. Maybe they are the original Nika. Either called that directly or the bases for what the Lunarians made their god. Just given the fact that it seems Imu has the ability to shape shift and make what they want real, (possibly how the Gorosei turned into those beast) it could be a big parallel to how the Nika fruit works. Also the fact that Imu is always in silhouette could be in universe them using there power. Similar to how Luffy becomes all white. It would either be the Lunarians either worshiped Imu first and then Imu turned evil for one reason or another or was tricking them. Or it could have been Nika was the savior for the Lunarians as someone who could oppose Imu. This could also explain why the world gov't wants the fruit under it's control. Imu specifically doesn't want someone to gain their powers and have a chance to stand against them.
THEORY: Imu ate the Yami-Yami/Dark-Dark fruit and BlackBeard didnt. With all of the “shadow” and “silhouette” usage in every one of Imu’s panels could notion to his fruit being a form of “Darkness.” We also know that Blackbeard is a parallel to Luffy who’s fruit was shown to be a Zoan and not a Paramecia. We know that Blackbeard’s “Logia” does not make him intangible, so in theory if Blackbeard didn’t eat the Yami-Yami/Dark-Dark fruit is it plausible that Imu did? there’s a lot more to my theory than i typed out, i just didn’t want to spam the comments too much.
Tekking, I have this theory that came up while listening to the audio on spotify. I think Lily, being a "D" clan member, had the voice of all things and communicated with Zunesha to spread the ponegliffs across the world. It would make sense why there there would be a road ponegliff on him, and why there would be one in Alabasta. It may even be how one got on Skypiea. That also would explain the punishment Zunesha would have committed 800 years ago. I would love to get your thoughts on this!
Maybe the Gorosei once were independent beings but then Im "ate" them and then turned them through that into beings like him. Part of becoming an Elder Star is being subsumed by the ruler.
The fact that sabo experienced intense pain might be linked to the fact that blackbeard has the dark dark fruit and THAT is a property of it too, immense pain, more than normal
Why didnt the Nefertari family pass down the D like every family did? Cobra didnt know he was a D so that means his parents didnt pass it down to him. Saul said his parents passed it to him and they didnt even know what it was, So why didnt the Nefartari do it? That makes me think The D isnt even a name that has always existed but a title given to some people; so that means a person with D in their name could be the unique one of his family where his siblings dont have the D too.
For safety. They would have more knowledge of its significance than some others and the danger it would pose. If their descendants have no knowledge they belonged to the D clan then they were in less danger. To deceive you enemies you must first deceive your allies.
Hey Tekking, I know you play DnD. Have you looked into the Curse of Straud campaign? I'm currently running a CoS game, and without spoiling it, there are some similaities between how Im reacts and talks about Lily and Vivi, and the obsession Straud has with Irena Kolyana throughout the campaign. If you know, you know.
