Everything Wrong With Black Panther: Wakanda Forever in 21 Minutes or Less

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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is the follow up to the smash hit original Black Panther film. It has some great action and deep emotion... and a heaping pile of sins.
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@vastotales4431 Год назад

That Chadwick Boseman Tribute opening was the quietest you ever felt in a movie. You felt the emotions in the room at the time.

@patrickspencer6550 Год назад

You know, they used it in 2020 on Disney+ for the first film.

@multiverse_media2023 Год назад

@@patrickspencer6550 Because that very same year he passed away. In the worst year of all time… we lost our King. 😢😢😢

@thecunninlynguist Год назад

I saw it twice in a packed theater and it was quiet as a mouse.

@juicebocx4217 Год назад

Just like the Paul walker tribute

@oompie815 Год назад

@@multiverse_media2023 'Our king'? You people need to go out more.

@chrish3126 Год назад

Angela Bassetts emotional speech about losing her family while stripping Okoye of her rank gave me chills and really proves what a powerhouse of an actor she is. I was so pissed when they killed her off.

@mahwenjin3231 Год назад

But it is still stupid.

@Peanut_Buster90 Год назад

@Mah Wen Jin they put Angela Bassett in the Avenger's Endgame credits, but not Edward Norton's Hulk which IS canon to the movies. Woke Hollywood is dumb

@OceansOfMotionStudios Год назад

@Swol Winchester Ed Norton was also known for being difficult to work with on multiple projects, including Hulk. There was a reason Disney didn't wanna work with Norton after the film came out and it had little to do with wokeness.

@penuelodiaka6359 11 месяцев назад

@@Peanut_Buster90 Why would Edward Norton have to be credited for Avengers Endgame anyway? He wasn't in it

@bootneyfarnsworth2844 11 месяцев назад

Angela Bassett was in Avengers: Endgame

@geekroom2365 Год назад

Didnt realize shuri's last words to her mom was her jokingly hanging up on her in a crisis. That...hits differently now.

@hiccuphufflepuff176 Год назад

Technically her last words to her were "love you, bye" so it could have been worse. At least she didn't say anything cruel or get into an argument.

@geekroom2365 Год назад

@Hiccup Hufflepuff could have been worse, yea, but definitely not optimal

@MelodicTurtleMetal Год назад

@@geekroom2365 Her last words contained i love you - pretty optimal last words

@user-KNP13 11 месяцев назад

At least it wasn't about Billy Joel

@geekroom2365 11 месяцев назад

@@user-KNP13 I understood that reference

@thepearsonfinest Год назад

Im actually surprised he didnt say anything about Shuri's talk with Killmonger. I thought that was a great scene showing how her heart felt at that moment, mirroring Killmonger.

@cheese9466 Год назад

If its a great scene then why would it be sinned?

@rachelwingard88 Год назад

@@cheese9466 no he probably would've had to remove a sin for it so yeah idk why he didn't include it it was the best part of the movie imo

@miguelpinheiro6042 Год назад

This felt kinda rushed, maybe they forgot it. To be fair, the movie is not that great, but that scene may be its best part

@sofiacarvajal8545 Год назад

@rachelwingard88 totally agree, it was the best part of the movie. I came to the comments to say I missed the sin removal on the video. It was worth 5 sins off imo... that's how great that scene is. It does a splendid job using a very important plot point of the first movie to accomplish many things: Subvert expectations , show how consumed was Shuri by pain and hatred, present a totally different Black Panther than the one we were expecting, show how different Shuri and T'Chala are... I remember being at the cinema and feeling actual chills when I heard "little cousin". Well done.

@thgnotorious Год назад

it was a great scene, which is probably why he didn't say anything 😭

@Moola868 Год назад

17:40 This sin could just as easily be "Black Panther movie doesn't Black Panther until there is only 41 minutes left."

@gentblue Год назад

A black panter? Exhausted African man?

@rockb922 Год назад

Black Panther was never in the movie. Just Shuri in a Black Panther suit.

@nailinthefashion Год назад

@@gentblue listen, that was good, a great joke, even--

@Wymorence Год назад

Hysterically it's also a BP origin story after we got a BP origin story.

@Tryin2dobetter Год назад

Should have gave it a original name instead of a sequel something similar like "black pants turd" would fit.

@firstnamelastname7982 Год назад

I think the opening funeral scene was for later viewers who weren't aware of his health issues (think our kids watching these for the first time later in the years). It's just a way to help transition while still honoring him

@Lifeof728 Год назад

It's also necessary in the chronological context of the MCU. Imagine just starting off the movie like "welp he's dead" and then watching a few years from now after maybe watching civil war , no and then this. It would be abrupt AF without context.

@Lifeof728 Год назад

It also shows how long she had been working on that synthetic herb

@jon83chewy Год назад

@@Lifeof728 the problem was the time jump right after, not the actual funeral scene. Why couldn’t his death have been recent instead of arbitrarily jumping ahead

@Menthix Год назад

All right,but wasn't Tchalla dead for 5 years after the snap? I mean I'm sure they mourned him the first time, but the second time even harder? I don't think so.

@andreasmeelie1889 Год назад

I completely agree!😇

@dylanchilders Год назад

Being a college student living in a prison cell of a dorm, yeah I was pissed at how pristine Riris dorm was

@madi7178 Год назад

Took me right out of the movie, it was ridiculous

@Davidsworldtravels Год назад

It was bigger than my first apartment. My dorm could not have fit a woman wielding a full length spear and waving it around.

@UncleJimmi_ID Год назад

I thought that too at first, but turns out that scene was filmed in an actual dorm at MIT. The building is called Simmons Hall, it's insane

@n0dash18 Год назад

I wonder if she lives in one of those rich/smart person college dorms. I also wonder if there’s a such thing as a “rich/smart person college dorm,” or if that’s just something I made up and am just assuming exists.

@officerspooder Год назад

@@n0dash18 it absolutely exist pal, aswell as dorms less than the size of a taco bell bathroom

@PedroHenrique-fs6mn Год назад

The biggest problem with Namors motivation is, even if he killed the girl, what would that accomplish? The government probably already have an spare vibranium detector anyway, or at least the schematics

@SuperFabregas2 Год назад

One of like a billion problems with the movie

@silverhawk24 Год назад

People say wakanda forever was phase 4's best film, but I call bullshit on that. No movie "except No Way Home" was good whatsoever.

@Davidsworldtravels Год назад

Of course. That’s one of the lamest plot holes. She sent her design through her college. And all the people who actually built the thing.

@Mizzraim Год назад

@@silverhawk24 I wouldn't say No Way Home was much better.

@silverhawk24 Год назад

@@Mizzraim ok fair enough! I thought it was decent tho, but i think far from home was a little bit better

@MarkERoth Год назад

11:09 Namor was the first character to be called a mutant in Marvel comics. Its very fitting for the character to be the first to actually use the word mutant and the first to identify as one since he was born a mutant and not altered after birth like everyone else we've seen in the MCU.

@gentblue Год назад

The books don't matter - we are watching a movie!

@MarkERoth Год назад

@gentblue the scene is just an Easter egg. Marvel could have just continued to call them "powered individuals" or "mutations" but chose to finally use a word that fans have been wanting to hear for years in an mcu production

@mathisalexander2446 Год назад

It was actually in ms. Marvel first but yeah lol

@MarkERoth Год назад

@@mathisalexander2446 she was called a mutation not a mutant

@3r1kofficial Год назад

@@MarkERoth and it was immediately followed by the stinger of the 90's X-Men theme. Safe to say then that it was Marvel calling her a mutant.

@LeviathanHamster Год назад

Surprised there wasn’t any mention of Killmonger’s appearance in the movie in the video. You would think such a big moment for Shuri’s character would be addressed.

@raelindsey8456 Год назад

I was thinking that

@the_real_beaker_ Год назад

maybe there were no sins!! haha

@lowhigh12341 Год назад

Shuri said she saw nothing soooooo it didn’t happen lol

@tedmoise1398 Год назад

@@the_real_beaker_ And thus, we should have gotten a reverse-sin-counter ding

@the_real_beaker_ Год назад

@@tedmoise1398 absolutely, it was a big moment in the movie

@courtneythompson6179 Год назад

Glad you brought up how manipulative Namor is and that he in fact kidnapped Shuri. That man is unhinged. The fact he killed her mom, I don’t understand the appeal of shipping them.

@bluefiremarkii Год назад

Out of all the villains in the mcu Namor deserved to die with most of them. It's crazy that anyone thinks he should live. Even at the end of the movie he is STILL plotting to attack the surface world. He wants to kill everyone on earth for some oppression that isn't happening anymore..

@darrylehm Год назад

He didn't kidnap her at all--Shuri demanded to go to Talokan, and Attuma did as she demanded. He wasn't "unhinged"--he witnessed European colonialism give way to racial capitalism and extractivism, and he wasn't going to be colonized or exploited. K'uk'ulkan is actually the only person in the film with an even remotely logical position--and the only reason he attacked Wakanda is because Ramonda launched a covert op into Talokan and killed a Talokanii national first. Ramonda died because she was the one who committed an act of war; after she died, K'uk'ulkan retreated and gave Wakanda the chance to prevent further bloodshed. It's not especially complicated.

@isaiaholaru5013 Год назад

@@darrylehm Correct

@plumeria1985 Год назад

@@darrylehm ...did they not attack wakanda's princess and soldiers while she was in the middle of securing a person that they *blackmailed* her into getting?

@darrylehm Год назад

@@plumeria1985 the person they were trying to smuggle back to Wakanda without the Talokanii knowing? Yes. Attuma and Namora weren't there for Shuri or Okoye--which is why they didn't kill either of them when they had the chance.

@MrTooner13 Год назад

When I saw this movie in theaters there was some murmuring throughout it, but when Ramonda chewed out Okoye the room went dead silent, and I thought "damn that's some excellent acting."

@Haaris.Qureshi Год назад

Seeing Shuri fail to save her brother and how poorly she deals with that is kind of the tentpole of her arc - if we didn’t see that, it would break the ‘show don’t tell rule’. That’s why we start with the funeral.

@tariqthomas9090 Год назад

Yeah that was definitely one of the most forced sins they’ve ever done. It should have been obvious why we started with the funeral.

@mf_dva Год назад

Not only that but it was to respect and do right by Chadwick. Imagine the outcry of disrespect if this was like most movies and they only just casually mentioned that he died early on.

@British_Rogue Год назад

@@tariqthomas9090 The sin was more to do with the time skip of a year after the funeral.

@jon83chewy Год назад

But the problem wasn’t the showing of the funeral, it was the time jump right after. What purpose does it serve to skip ahead a year instead of experiencing what she feels while her brothers death is still recent.

@zippers987 Год назад

@@jon83chewy because as nice as it would be for a two hour long film to deal with fresh grief, movies gotta movie, so we transition to a year later where we see that she is still actively grieving

@moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115 Год назад

I love the "Fenty 440" joke. I would totally believe that if Rihanna wrote that joke cause into her contract when she decided to sing "Lift Me Up" for the soundtrack.

@World_One_Productions Год назад

3:12 They used the different colors and fonts to denote when characters were speaking different languages, neither of them English. When Nakia is trying to find Namor, she first speaks to the old woman in the village in her own language (Spanish, I believe), but then switches to ancient Mayan to convince her she knows who and what she's looking for.

@jenniferc8913 Год назад

I love the connection between Okoye chastening RiRi about saving herself with a heater when they first encounter each other, and it coming full circle in her methodology to weakening Namor.

@Katteyezz Год назад

Damn it did didn't it!😮

Год назад

Literally laughed out loud at "unexpected wildlife." Great writing.

@pvpdavidlul9049 Год назад

“Oh sh*t, she’s got an Ironman suit” You can’t deny that is a funny line

@bossshun9 Год назад

That line is still funny. 😂😂

@Osfrie Год назад

Mbaku(?) wasn't "surprised" to see the fish man. He was keen to try and take him down, prove his strength, etc.

@Nymaz Год назад

5:15 Why is Shuri needed to talk to Ross? Well, she *is* the one that directly saved his life and had the most (and most positive) interaction with him. It's likely her presence was necessary to subtly remind Ross of his feelings of debt to Wakanda.

@mikeljackson9192 Год назад

They also needed to ask Ross about the “American scientist” that invented a vibranium detector for the CIA and he’s IN the CIA. They didn’t know it was a college kid yet

@mmmahh9056 Год назад

Rest in peace Chadwick Boseman, you will forever be remembered as Black Panther! ❤

@frankunodostres473 Год назад

his performance in Da 5 bloods is much better. that is what he should be remembered for

@jimtierrank3542 Год назад

Wakanda Forever

@ant9500 Год назад

@@frankunodostres473 I actually saw that in the movies… predictable plot but he was top notch!

@josiahirvin9467 Год назад

@@frankunodostres473 9

@salamisumo2 11 месяцев назад

@@frankunodostres473C’mon, Frank. That’d be like saying Christopher Reeve shouldn’t be remembered for Superman, his acting in The Remains of the Day was his finest.

@touremuhammad5983 Год назад

I just realized something: The Vibranium in Talokan comes from the famous Yucatán Meteor Impact that created the underwater cave systems called the Cenotés. Clever.

@questionmaker5666 6 месяцев назад

Wouldn't that mean most of the Vibranium would be on land.

@sammonroe882 Год назад

Riri acknowledging that a member of the Wakandan royalty, a celebrity, a superhero and a personal hero of hers in shuri is in her room, then proceeding to threaten her with various objects and hand-waving away that this person is also telling her she is in danger.. that was a pretty big sin to me.. especially since we are meant to believe she is an unparalleled genius after that...

@k7l3rworkman97 5 месяцев назад

Right? How tf is she gonna be any version of IronMan? She doesn’t stand for shit… she didn’t mean shit to this entire movie…

@SgtSupaman Год назад

You say we all knew T'Challa would be dead, so the funeral was unnecessary, but, right after Chadwick Boseman's death, Marvel was saying they would not kill off T'Challa. I think the plan was more to have him go missing for some reason or another and for Shuri to just have to step up as Black Panther while he was gone (this kind of thing happens in the comics). So I actually was surprised when they showed funeral scenes in the teasers leading up to the movie's release. Also, a movie can be around for much longer than the people that would remember that an actor died between the original and the sequel. So, it would have seemed a huge oversight to anyone that didn't know the meta reason why T'Challa had to die.

@bobblebardsley Год назад

Yeah I think it would have been more of a sin to start this movie with a silent Chadwick Boseman Marvel logo and then the first scene of the movie be "well he's dead, so here we go..." and make nothing of it. Especially for the really emotionally invested fans, this movie felt like a helping hand to process the grief. (And before anyone says it's pathetic to feel that strongly for an actor/character, it's just human, like caring about a particular sports team or your friends who aren't blood relatives. Pretty much everyone has *something* they care about, outside of their immediate family etc.)

@Svol09 Год назад

@@bobblebardsley either if they buried him or not he was going to sin it....it's called entertainment... The movie was a pack of horse manure and even if the first one was sht too this somehow managed to make it worse.

@KhanMann66 Год назад

It’s goes completely against what the original film set up. The Black Panther is title that should be inherited through combat not by blood. Sheri had no right to be the next black panther. Just another case of Marvel going woke.

@knightmare5097 Год назад

@@KhanMann66 His death was sudden, and not through combat. Not only that, but the whole country was in mourning, especially after the death of the queen. I don’t think there’d be an issue in allowing Shuri as the BP

@Chopperwocky Год назад

T’Challa did not have to die.They could have recast.

@km4587 Год назад

Why didn't the fish people just siren song their way to victory in the final battle? It seemed to work every other time so why not do that? The Wakanda army definitely didn't pack ear plugs for the battle so it should have been an easy W.

@ThomasdWell Год назад

This is why it should have been putting people to sleep instead of suicide

@KhanMann66 Год назад

Because plot.

@kurtisdeakin Год назад

One more plot hole in a weak story full of "'member this?" and "STUFF! THINGS!!!".

@A.F.Whitepigeon Год назад

Why would you thingk they didn't pack earplugs? They all saw the siren thing working before, and they surely have some sort of super-vibranium-earplugs. They'd be stupid not to bring them.

@rinuchiha6961 Год назад

Shuri and Riri(especially her) would've had a backup. Not to mention that Talakun or however you spell it did try it on Wakanda but that planned failed. Not to mention that they were hyped up on revenge. But why siren song people when you have the literal home field advantage

@Jason-wp7ed Год назад

“The only thing I lost in Boston traffic is my patience” after all these years, y’all still got it, CinemaSins 😂

@The_Cowwwthem Год назад

Honestly same

@MegaZeo Год назад

Wow, absolutely no commentary on Shuri's vision with Killmonger? I'm legitimately shocked. Even if the logic is "Well, it was an awesome scene, so it has no sins" you think it would be a moment where Jeremy takes a sin (or more) back.

@lexcorpceo763 Год назад

It's still amazes me how damn good Angela Bassett is in her craft. I mean.. Damn. A powerful.. Powerful... Actress who commanded the screen everytime. Still sad that her and Chadwick couldn't share the screen again. A powerful actor gone too soon . Black panther movies have like the most amazing acting talent in any Marvel movies....

@dday906 Год назад

Angela Bassett's performance in this movie....God tier. And, of course, R.I.P. Chadwick Boseman. Thank you for your contributions to the arts.

@chasehedges6775 Год назад

The honoring Chadwick and Angels Basset’s performance are the only good things in this mediocre movie

@jeffreyval9665 Год назад

You mistake complete mediocrity with God tier?? Gtfoh!!

@chasehedges6775 Год назад

@Disabled.Megatron👍👍

@frankunodostres473 Год назад

however it pisses me off that she will go down in history as the first (and so far only) actor to get nominated for a mcu film. all I'm saying is RDJ, michael keaton, elizabeth olson or tom holland also deserved some recognition

@jeffreyval9665 Год назад

@frank unodostres recognition for what?? These are garbage movies with nothing even close to good acting. Anything totally reliant on cgi and with horrible storylines shouldn't even be considered actual moviemaking. These are some of the worst acted things in history.

@baileeharding8886 Год назад

I'm shocked Jeremy didn't mention the end credit scene or the fact that Killmonger showed up. This movie hit me hard, and I wasn't 100% ready for it when it came out. I was barely holding on before the end credit scene and that was enough to take me out

@Lucifer_Abysseum 9 месяцев назад

well would you say they are sins ? the point of the video is to point out sins, i would have been shocked if those scene appeared imo

@louisberry4403 Год назад

This did a nice tribute to T'Challa RIP Chadwick Boseman. Angela deserved a Oscar.

@tiger7892 Год назад

The different colors of the subtitles easily convey to the viewer what language is being spoken. Watching the movie, this was a super easy concept to pick up on, not sure why you felt the need to sin it

@phoenixdzk Год назад

Angela Bassett: gives one of the greatest performance of her life and establishes herself as the best character in the MCU Then immediately dies saving Ironheart (MCU quippy teenage genius number 5)

@Hanmacx Год назад

Also don't forget next Genius of Color MoonGirl

@Tryin2dobetter Год назад

The best character in the mcu? 😂 I cant imagine the amount of bathsalts someone mother had to smoke while pregnant to birth a child that would think that, let alone make that statement.

@bulmabrief73 Год назад

"best character in the MCU" alright, calm down

@E-Man08 Год назад

15:29 Anderson cooper being cannon in the MCU makes me wonder if he was in Sokovia to report on Ultron

@isaiahpero7837 Год назад

Damn. I never realized it until now, but you're right: Those WERE the last words she said to her mother @ 14:41. Ouch 💔. As someone who lost both parents recently, that hurts a bit.

@rkah6187 11 месяцев назад

I am sorry for your loss.

@isaiahpero7837 11 месяцев назад

@@rkah6187 Thank you.

@Paulohs699 Год назад

20:22 this type of houses are very stable because the river is calm most of the time, these houses exist in several places and only in cases of extreme storms and floods are they washed away by the river

@donovan1345 Год назад

Should have sinned the scene where the fish guy throws a couple of small water grenades in a huge ass room, and it fills it up just enough to drown the Queen. Just curious how like 200,000 gallons of water could fit in those small ass grenades.

@ctakitimu Год назад

Considering how hard it is to compress water

@ariwong7961 Год назад

Namor literally has wings on his legs and you're wondering how water could fit in the grenades?? It's called a movie and not everything is realistic! Some things exist in the MCU that don't exist here and we don't need to try and rationalise EVERYTHING

@Tommy50377 Год назад

@@ariwong7961 There are certain levels of stupid one is willing to accept for fiction movies. That absurd quantity of water being able to be fucking carried by hand in a tiny grenade is far, far past the acceptable level of stupid.

@fumeck1674 Год назад

@@ariwong7961 Yes how does 200,000 gallons of water fit in a grenade and he be able to lift it? I'm sure if Sheri had said I am Black Iron Woman and snapped her fingers and all iron turned into vibranium, the Earth turning into an equitable socialist paradise, then the movie ended - you would have applauded and still said not everything has to be realistic. And little wings on his feet looks hella gay.

@cokesquirrel Год назад

Deus ex aqua grenade?

@RyanWood24 Год назад

I just want to know how deep that river in wakanda is for it to have whales transport the fish people and it go undetected in the most secure city in the world who just said to raise security because of Namor breaking in undetected the first time

@onemllnonetoone Год назад

That's a fair point, but I don't usually count things like that against world building or plot just because in this case we're immersed in fictional elements. Like, Wakanda doesn't exist. There are enormous mile wide, or absurdly deep, rivers in real life, the deepest of which is in Africa. Who's to say what the characteristics of this river is? The people of not-Atlantis-actually have advanced but undescribed Vibranium based technology as well, and built a clandestine civilization beneath the seas. Whose to say anti-sonar or whatever isn't trivial for them? Neither fictional superhero monarchy or its culture or history actually exists. Whose to say what strategies of established defense they've prioritized or developed? Of course, I do know what channel I'm on. 🤷‍♂️

@RyanWood24 Год назад

@@onemllnonetoone I’m just saying, if I just pissed off a bunch of people that live in the water, I’m gonna make sure that the one way they can possibly come in is blocked by a shield or heavily guarded 🤷‍♂️ Especially since how paranoid they are about outsiders coming into wakanda. It just makes zero sense and a guy who sat down and watched the movie can easily think of a way to stop it, the most scientifically advanced society in the world should be able to

@onemllnonetoone Год назад

@@RyanWood24 Again, not arguing that isn't a fair point, we're just imagining reasonable, or unreasonable things however we want that could have been done. Like, think about the real world; what type of submersibles could a Wakanda possibly have to worry about in their rivers? Some sonar and some guns was probably all they needed until a fishman popped out of a lake and told them they have an army of unknown size, armaments, and abilities to worry about. If the queen gave you a week to defend Wakanda's waterways from invasion, and sonar evidently didn't work, whatcha gonna do? Dam an apparently enormous river system and flood the place? Cut off the freshwater supply to a major city? Setup a checkpoint that can be overwhelmed or subverted offscreen? Or maybe you're right and nothing was done, because it's a movie where if it isn't explicitly described it doesn't exist. 🤷‍♂️

@onemllnonetoone Год назад

@@katanaryo6718 I truly don't remember the whales in the rivers. Yada yada, something something, giant whale rebreathers or whatever. Lmao. Anyway, whales breathe air. Saltwater has nothing to do with it.

@bluefiremarkii Год назад

There was literally a line stating reinforce the shield underwater. But then they just get through so unbelievably easily that border patrol never even saw them? No alerts that the barrier was damaged or gone, no surveillance underwater, nothing.

@producerTJeski Год назад

Thank you so much for removing a sin for the powerhouse performance that is Angela Bassett! She is incredible!

@jefferycraig5353 Год назад

2:45 mans openly admits hes never heard of the greek sirens before.

@BishopS Год назад

13:30 If I can't point you to a Marvel TV show, can I point you to the Black Widow after credits scene? Lol

@zom8680 Год назад

*kicks you in the testicles for smartassery* 😂

@BishopS Год назад

@@zom8680 🤣

@shilohmagic7173 Год назад

2:55 actually, it's not unnecessary. That is what siren song does.

@tefweebz Год назад

RIGHT?!!!😂😂

@pvpdavidlul9049 Год назад

One complaint of mine is how does a college student make a vibranium detector despite having no vibranium to test it on

@michaelwatson9089 Год назад

I think Wakanda forgot they have their own prison system that they could lock the people up for trying to steal Vibranium. Didn't Klaw showed the Wakandian prison tattoo in Age of Ultron?

@donovan1345 Год назад

My biggest gripe about the movie was the Queen's emotional decisions. She's like, "My whole family is dead." Yet she knows about T'challa's son that's been kept secret. Made all her ranting and bickering, useless film filler. She lost her husband in the last movie, and she was stoic. She thought she lost her son, she was sad, but still proud and stoic. Like a Queen would be. But in this movie, she lashes out, becomes vengeful against people that's not even at fault, and does stupid decisions, to a point of, her death and the deaths of countless Wakandans. Makes her a terrible queen. And why they couldn't stop one flying man is just stupid as well. This movie nerfed the hell out of the Wakandans's superior technology and fighters.

@kjmwale8328 Год назад

Bro, who the actual fuck stays "stoic" when literally they keep losing loved ones?! And the line is "my entire family is GONE!" dumbass. I'll admit the movie has writing problems, but that scene was one of the scariest and saddest things I heard. Not only that, she actively questioning her own decisions and whether if the cost to her family was actually worth it. "I am queen of the most powerful nation in the world, but my entire family... is gone! "Have I not given everything?!"

@jaakumitsukai8682 Год назад

My biggest gripe with this movie is that the latter half just feels like a shittier version of T'challa's journey in Civil War. Like a lot of the story beats are very similar if not exactly the same, a quick example being, Parent is killed, child is out for revenge, gives up on revenge at the last minute. T'challa did it way better in Civil War. Feels like as brilliant of a T'challa that Chadwick portrayed they should have just recast the role instead of changing the entire movie and handing us this hot mess. The acting was great, Angela Bassett's performance literally gave me chills, it's the poor, rushed writing that lets it down majorly, from the hamfisted inclusion of Riri Williams to Shuri being Black Panther (Should have been either Okoye or M'Baku, Shuri is more tech savvy, more of a Wakandan Iron-Man, she simply doesn't have the skills to go toe to toe with Namor) . Just overall a Mid movie, wasn't She-Hulk levels of terrible but wasn't the Masterpiece most people seem to believe it is. Meh/10

@brunozeigerts6379 Год назад

In the comics, Namor was stronger than The Thing from Fantastic Four and almost on par with Thor and the Hulk.

@johnpotts8308 Год назад

You would imagine that in Wakanda (a quasi utopian society) people might start to question whether an absolutist monarchy is the best form of rule after not just Queen Ramonda's questionable decisions but the whole of the first Black Panther movie where the only way to depose Killmonger as King was to incite a Civil War! Yet there is no consideration of reforming the constitution of Wakanda at any point (you could still retain the challenge system for the role of Black Panther since the King and Black Panther are not necessarily the same person - they weren't in CA:CW and it seems they won't be going forward either).

@zippers987 Год назад

when does queen Ramonda lash out and become vengeful?

@LemonEditsAndReviews Год назад

I didn't think this movie was the worst but it definitely couldn't beat the first one

@ThePlasticBowl 10 месяцев назад

Yeah but in Marvel’s defense this was definitely not the Black Panther 2 they wanted to make baring the unfortunate passing of Chadwick. I’m sure they had a whole nother script written that had to be thrown out and this one had to be written from the ground up.

@cyb11114 Год назад

Aneka is great and deserves to be a bigger part of this movie !!! Yes!! She was wonderful!! And a good part of the movie

@jazzomj Год назад

There definitely should’ve been sims removed for: - Nakia switching from Spanish to the indigenous language - Shuri seeing Killmonger - The costuming - And several more removed for the acting in the scene between the Queen and Okoye…🔥🔥🔥

@ashdstee Год назад

*Barely grazes paper* “DONT TOUCH ANYTHING!!!” 😂

@bravepigster Год назад

Oddly enough, the one soldier going “Oh shit she got an iron man suit!” was the funniest part of the movie.

@k7l3rworkman97 5 месяцев назад

She doesn’t even deserve to be Ironman. The way she was written was lazy and she shouldn’t have even been in this movie.

@Louis-wx1fo Год назад

No comments on Michael B Jordan or T'challas son ??? Wth

@Water_Me_Loan_64_YT Год назад

Rest In Peace, Chadwick Boseman. 💜🖤🐈‍⬛🐾

@kamali2593 Год назад

That Mission Impossible joke got me laughing so damn hard

@TriEssenceMartialArts Год назад

Huge fan of the channel for years, I would just like to point out that there are myth about Siren luring sailors into jumping into the ocean with their songs, so I guess the movie just wanted to mirror that story？

@JennaMac24 Год назад

Yep. That's why they didn't put them to sleep. That's not what sirens do.

@snoglin Год назад

finally found the comment I was looking for

@NarwahlGaming Год назад

Not to mention trying to lure super rich ducks. _"Pennies, nickles, quarters, dimes. Come to us while there's still time!"_ 30 years later and I still remember that chant. 😂

@kimberlyklaus7296 Год назад

Succession rules in Wakanda: T’challa was Black Panther before he was king, though that was likely because his father the current king wasn’t in Black Panther condition anymore. The “king” mantle can be held by any eligible candidate from one of the Wakandan tribes. If T’Challa had been successfully bested by another challenger of royal blood the first time, he would have had to yield both mantles to that person and Killmonger would have arrived to find T’Challa wasn’t even king (though his goal was to harness vibranium for revenge purposes). Apparently there had not been a challenge to succeed T’Challa in the year after his death and Ramonda was the Queen. Shuri ceded her claim to the throne to M’Baku and so he is challenging all comers to make it official while (presumably) allowing Shuri to remain Black Panther to continue her alliance with Namor and company.

@kikikanzaki1539 Год назад

2:50 - My first impression watching this scene was that it was a heavy reference to siren songs, ya know, mermaid people who supposedly sing with voices so beautiful that seafaring men become hypnotized and throw themselves off ship into the water to try to get find them, only to drown in the cold or rough seas. It's a common phenomenon that pops up in a lot of folktales and mythology around the world as far back as ancient times

@alldayagain Год назад

I wholly agree with the mic drop after an act of aggression line. It would have made total sense, that their next move after wakanda 100-percent shut them down, to then find an alternative source

@NoviLyric Год назад

14:44 never realized that omg😭😭😮

@klimmr Год назад

19:46 One sin for CinemaSins for not saying, "Roll Credits".

@devinsingh562 Год назад

forgot about the part where Namor could have easily went to the water and get his powers back, but instead he decided to punch shuri a bit more in his weakened state.

@djjones635 Год назад

I literally just commented the same thing.

@cyndrigaming Год назад

Just went to the doctor last week-- my blood pressure was indeed perfect 120/80. This is the one brag about my health I have 😂

@CamoSquid Год назад

Vice President Elaine lmao. To be fair, her first appearance was in fact not a show, but Black Widow

@karenwoulfe5999 11 месяцев назад

Well, she did appear in a show, but as a different character, awkward

@CamoSquid 11 месяцев назад

@@karenwoulfe5999 um nope. She's been the same character in all three productions. Awkward🥴

@Sj_blackphoenix Год назад

I was waiting for Cinema Sins to talk about how Nakia rescued Shuri and Riri by coming out of the water, and in the very next scene when the Queen is reunited with Shuri, they are not wet. Not even damp. Or a towel. The pacing of Nakia's rescuing is my biggest problem with the movie

@PrincessVanessaTheFirst Год назад

Angela Bassett was unfairly robbed of her Oscar for this amazing performance.

@roxyhayes1346 Год назад

I actually loved hearing Shuri and Okoye discussing makeup shade. Fenty started a cosmetic revolution by proving that if you provide the supply of diverse shades and undertones, people will buy it. There weren’t as many options beforehand and now nearly every brand is releasing products to compete. Fenty went through great pains to develop a formula that worked for everyone and it’s nice to see the gratefulness felt by many irl be acknowledged by two of the most powerful Black women in the MCU. ❤

@karenwoulfe5999 11 месяцев назад

What happened to T'Challa was extremely important in this film. Not addressing Chadwick Boseman's absence would have been a much greater sin

@k7l3rworkman97 5 месяцев назад

They literally did by changing the A enters opening to ALL BPs scenes. It was enough of a tribute we didn’t need an entire ass scene with sister trying to SAVE him… we fucking knew he died… the funeral was overkill

@thambidave Год назад

I think El Niño sin Amor should’ve taken a sin away

@stoagymahalo5268 Год назад

Love how his last sin is "don't breath that"

@NoviLyric Год назад

7:19 LMFAOOOOOOOO I used to watch that when I was like 10

@isaactsibu-darko6854 Год назад

the commentary at 18:55 killed me🤣🤣🤣🤣

@alexgrey7972 Год назад

The scene with Riri in the dorm is not a problem with tone that scene is realist asf as all black people know no matter how grim a situation is there’s always time to clown someone

@SunshyneA Год назад

Exactly! Even in fear we gone roast! If imma go out might as well crack some jokes

@anwaralexander3035 Год назад

I don't think you should speak for all black ppl as in serious situations, I don't clown...

@jazzomj Год назад

THANK YOU!

@abbywolffe4114 Год назад

EXACTLY

@AngelWingsYT Год назад

I saw this opening week in the EMAX when the Marvel logo rolled the whole packed theater went dead silent it was chilling

@denyol2846 Год назад

Jeremy hearing them pronounce it as Shuri constantly during the film, but choosing to pronounce it like Cherie is really grinding my gears

@EGOfoodie Год назад

Thank you. It was like he has to be doing this as a joke or something, but there was no punchline.

@andrews5236 Год назад

Who?

@denyol2846 Год назад

@@andrews5236 not sure if you’re asking who Shuri is (the main character in the film), or who Jeremy is (the cinemasins guy)

@siennaolive4015 Год назад

I figured it was his regional accent as he is from Tennessee

@andrews5236 Год назад

@@denyol2846 who … gives a fuck

@erin4370 Год назад

5:53 had me wheezing 😂

@aramis4347 Год назад

You have goofy ahh laugh

@HooodieHop 10 месяцев назад

@16:12 “ He did not.” *DING* I shouldn’t be as weak as I am at that sin 😂😂😂

@cas5936 6 месяцев назад

So glad u did this video...saved me a few hours of my life..thanks!

@kieronfarley1924 Год назад

So the jumping into the water thing I think is meant to be a reference/explanation for sirens and mermaids in our folklore as they sing luring those at see into the water.

@Phaota Год назад

You also forgot to sin that the aquatic people wouldn't have hair either. If they permanently lived underwater, their physical form would mutant to be more dolphin-like to give streamline swiftness, webbed handed and longer, more paddle-like feet. The hair would create drag, so it would be the first thing to disappear from their genetics.

@josephgazitano3445 Год назад

Except dolphins are mammals and like all mammals, they have hair at birth and some species even keep some of it their whole lives.

@Phaota Год назад

@@josephgazitano3445 If you do a Google search on the subject, this is what you get: "It is true that they are mammals, but dolphins only have hair when they are first born. This hair is found on the top of the rostrum. It falls out shortly after they are born. Dolphins do not grow any other hair for the rest of their lives." This would be the same for the aquatic people.

@Tommy50377 Год назад

@@Phaota Sure, if they lived under water for several centuries. It's been like what, 200 or 300 years? That's 7, maybe 8 generations max. 8 generations is not enough to change that much.

@Phaota Год назад

@@Tommy50377 200 to 300 years in an aquatic environment is more than enough time for mutation of the body to form since it is in a world totally opposite to that for which the body is constructed for, i.e. walking on land. So, our genetics would quickly try to play catch up as it alters particularly elements of the form to better match the swimming dynamics. We wouldn't be to the level of dolphins, but our forms would still be going in that direction.

@Tommy50377 Год назад

@@Phaota That's just.. objectively not how evolution works. Evolution occurs by sheer random chance, when the DNA of a creature mutates when it's conceived. Generally, these mutations cause a defect that will cause the creature to die, or otherwise live an impaired life. However, occasionally, by sheer random chance, a mutation may actually be beneficial. In this case, so long as the animal survives long enough to reproduce, this beneficial change will be spread to it's children, and their children after that. These creatures will then out compete the un mutated creatures, until all that's left are the creatures with the beneficial mutation. This is extremely rare, and takes very long periods of time for mammals such as ourselves, which don't reproduce very often. Think about it. If we could do something as drastic as losing all of our hair in just 8 generations, we should be seeing bugs and bacteria evolve in real time. Things like flies have a life cycle of several months, meaning in the time that it takes for us to go through 8 generations, they would have gone through tens of thousands. Flies would be completely different creatures after just a few decades if evolution occured as fast as you say.

@minxiemeesh Год назад

Sins should have been removed just for M’Baku’s “Bald headed demon” Line alone 😂

@zarquondam Год назад

12:46 - Sinning the Sin Guy for saying "wavering nation" when (I'm guessing) he meant "neighbourng nation." 13:38 - Sinning the Sin Guy for asking a question he admits he knows the answer to and then threatening anyone who points him to said answer. (And anyway, she was also in another movie, BLACK WIDOW, not just in the FALCON/SOLDIER tv show.)

@Volti-Vagra Год назад

16:51 i mean 100,000 kids left to put those orbs in random sequences, even if we dont recognize it one of em prolly "made" something that would "cure" cancer or be a step towards understanding and fighting the blanket term that is cancer

@PotatoSaladMonkey Год назад

Sin: It exists.

@yoonzino7433 Год назад

Don't Hug Me I'm Scared is a masterpiece

@valerierosario491 Год назад

Why was the opening tribute sinned? It hit me right in the feels.

@k7l3rworkman97 5 месяцев назад

Because now NOBODY can rewatch this movie without having to, Not only pay tribute every time, but we are forced to watch them TRY and FAIL to save him… like tf? The nice Ironman passed, we got One or two subtle tributes in Far From home (aside from Parker being a Stark Sucker) and that was it. This ENTIRE movie is about BPs death 😑

@rimabros98 Год назад

0:59 we don’t need a close-up on France and America to find out if they’re the worst already

@Boncomics Год назад

6:54 All the human girls in MARVEL tinker with the QUANTUM REALM for fun! They should pay the fans every time a young woman in the MCU uses the word "quantum"! Didn't even catch it, when RIRI said this.

@mikeljackson9192 Год назад

What about Hank Pym or Bill Foster or Darren Cross? Just the women huh?

@SergioArellano-yd7ik 8 месяцев назад

Do you just put the word quantum in front of everything?

@Brohoe 10 месяцев назад

Chadwick’s intro was the best part of this movie. I should have left the theatre after that.

@k7l3rworkman97 5 месяцев назад

FACTS 💯

@Dontaynewberry Год назад

I’ve been waiting for this one!

@E-Man08 Год назад

12:06 apparently I have a lot of gripe with this movie I did not know I had. BUT, “the surface people have conquered and enslaved people like us” when you had the technology, power, and apparently the army needed to defend said people but instead chose to hide your nation and let the people like you suffer says more about Talokan and Wakanda than it says about the rest of the world. Like they could’ve destroyed the colonial powers at literally any point in time before the a bomb dropped and decided to wait until the former colonial powers had enough technology to fight back to make a move? Dammit movie!

@Pie2105 10 месяцев назад

That's literally what the last movie was about bro 😭

@mfpatten Год назад

Queen Ramonda's "I am Queen" speech scene is 2nd only to Mini Black Panther introducing himself to Shuri at the end.

@karenhodo7656 Год назад

I appreciate yall waiting awhile before releasing this. respect.

@5ftOfRage Год назад

Imagine how different the Black Panther movies will be if they got the rights to use storm.

@benyijohnson7925 Год назад

Bruh how did Shuri seeing Killmonger in her dream not make the cut? There was so much to comment there!

@EmileVinesh Год назад

The silence during the tribute intro to Chadwick Boseman was incredible... Everywhere I read that their theater was dead silent during it. Worldwide...

@yaniquesmith78 Год назад

The SpongeBob pelvic thrust at the end had me in stitches 😂😂😂😂

@katearcher8514 Год назад

The colour of subs is really a part of communication. Now we not only know what is said, but also know the language that was used and consequentially who could understand it among the people present and who couldn't. Quite ingenious, really.

@mattw3606 Год назад

I remember seeing the ironheart suit in a meme dubbed with the Power Rangers theme song.

@thembanitheone Год назад

2:46 the Mayan afterlife Talokan is loosely based is supposedly reached only by those who die by drowing. It's also likely inspired by the stories of sirens in Greek mythology who would hypnotize sailors until they dash their boats or just drown overboard. Odysseus survived hearing their song and they ended up drowing themselves. Namora's headress is also made of something resembling bird feathers... possibly a siren reference as well since they were said to be half woman and half bird.

@mikeljackson9192 Год назад

Singers that lure seafarers to their deaths is not only in Greek mythology, that’s just the one most Europe audiences are most familiar with. There are Asian, African and Indigenous variations on ocean temptresses

@thembanitheone Год назад

@@mikeljackson9192 Yes this is true. Just answering Jeremy's "sin" at this part of the video.

@drakegrandx5914 10 месяцев назад

But the sin wasn't "Why are the ocean people suicide-drowning people", it was "Why have the screenwriters decided to make the ocean people, who will supposedly face no consequence for their actions by the end of the movie and who are also supposed to be sympathetic villains, suicide-drowning people, when there was no need for such an uncomfortable imagery and, the first time that happens, to kill people in the first place?"