Everything Wrong with Guns in Movies 

Lol now imagine the producers saying “What’s that second gunshot sound?” “Well, according to physics...” “We don’t like it; take it out.”

There's a scene in the walking dead where Herschel shoots about 20 rounds out of a shotgun, loads one shell in, then shoots five more times. It's my favorite scene in the whole show.

The speed of sound explanation is like the old adage that “if you heard the shot, you’re still alive”

technically the matrix movie does not have to follow the rules because its a computer simulation

There's this meta theory about The Walking Dead that the reason the zombies keep sneaking up on them more and more as the season progress is because everyone is going deaf from all the open and closequarters gunfire, so they can't hear the zombies walking up.

I once saw a clip where they showed a bullet fly in slow motion. The bullet still had the case around it. At that moment i was ready to die

Scenes in Daredevil... There's guns going off all around him and he's got hyper sensitive hearing... And he doesn't hold his head in agony?

I like how he had to specify that his grandpa was not robbing a bank

They got it right in "Saving Private Ryan" when Vin Diesel got killed, and the American sniper shot the belltower sniper. We got to see it from the belltower sniper's point of view, and it was just a flash, then a dead.

John Wick 3 has a realistic bullets underwater scene. Be cool for a review of that movie from the crew

What about guns always making a "clicking" sound JUST because they raise it up or move it! That always bothered me.

Breaking Bad did a great job with the sound mixing issue - During Gus's standoff with the cartel snipers, where they're firing at his feet, the sound is heard about a half second after each squib goes off. It's one of the things I really enjoyed about the show.

How about the “non-lethal” shot through the shoulder. Even if they missed the lung and heart, it just obliterated your scapula. Even disregarding that, where it hits the pec major, your arm would probably be useless for the immediate future.

I remember a movie slo-mo scene where it showed bullets flying by and they still had the casings on them, it was very infuriating.

I find myself counting bullets between reloads in action scenes. John Wick was super satisfying when he reloads after a reasonable amount shots. And I HATE bullet pools in video games.

The best portrayal of accurate reactions to gun fire is Archer and his tinnitus lmao

I go nuts when I hear a spent shell hit the ground from a revolver.

You can call it a suppressor or a silencer. When Hiram Maxim invented it, he called it a silencer on the patent.

7:30 I never experienced this LOUNDESS before lol

Fun fact about John Wick 3: When John falls into the water with an enemy, he immediately kicks off the enemy to about 3-4 feet away. The enemy's bullets are ineffective at this distance. After he runs out of ammo, John swims back towards him to kill him.

One thing I always liked about the Walking Dead was in the first episode, when Rick shoots the gun in the tank, it shows him disoriented and his ears ringing.

I would love to see an action movie where the main character puts in earplugs before every shootout scene he or she does. It’d give off a sense of irreverence and experience cuz they know how loud it can be

Something else that’s always bothered me is people instantly dying from arrows

I remember one part in a series called Counterpart where one of the characters knows he's gonna get into a gunfight...and so he puts in earplugs before the fight happens. Wish more media would do this because, honestly, it looked totally badass.

>Over penetration in water. >No penetration against a 1 inch wooden table. Makes sense.

"So about my bullet proof couch, table, chairs, cabinets-"

Well the matrix IS THE MATRIX. These people walk on walls. I highly doubt they’ll have some problems with gun recoil.

In fairness, I was familiarized with the MP5 in the military waaay back and the instructor showed us that it has virtually no kickback by putting it onto his flat palm and squeezing the trigger with two fingers, emptying the magazine. So ... some guns don't have any kickback worth mentioning.

You forgot grenades....they don't cause a huge fire ball. They are kinda look like duds in real life.

"But he is The One, so whatever..."

7:33 loundess

I love the scene in Balckhawk Down where one guy has to guide their friend through the battlefield because they had a burst shot near their ear. The "stay away from the walls" thing too, ricochets. A lot of cool things in that film.

Also guns sounding like a bucket of loose parts when ever they are moved.

I really liked that in the original Mafia game when you reloaded your gun, you lose the bullets in your clip. That makes reloading a much more interesting mechanic than just pressing R at every opportunity. I really don't see why more games don't do that.

I remember watching The Accountant and in the end sniping scene I specifically noted that the gunshot came after the impacts. Very seldomly is it done, but at least there, for once, it was. And while a table won't stop a bullet, it slightly, ever so slightly, increases the chances of a miss... (Cue Jim Carreys "So you're telling me I have a chance!" quote). :P And seeing Mythbusters testing the bullet penetration in water really messed with my whole world view about guns. Watching the .50 cal bullet come to a halt so quickly makes me thankful I got a diving lisence. If I ever find myself in a firefight I just need to find an air tank and regulator... and a large open body of water and I'd be bullet proof... until I had to surface...

4:15, my guy in the bg the way he looks is so pleasing. the awe, the emotion in his face watching him rant is like... wholesome

8:28 eye patch on her right eye still aims with her right eye...

A show that does gun loudness surprisingly well is Archer. There are multiple scenes where Sterling especially fires a gun indoors or next to someone's ear and leaves the ears ringing at the very least. Sterling has also developed tinnitus because of how often he's around unsuppressed gunfire.

Don’t forget though, while I agree with how the velocity and penetration of projectiles in movies is ridiculous; oftentimes when someone dives behind and object in a firefight it’s not about cover, but actually concealment. Basically, they know the car door won’t stop the incoming bullets, but it’s obscures the person and their most vital areas as a target from the shooter. This increases the probability of survival.

Just remembered.. The "cocking of hammer" sound when pointing a strikerfire pistol as Glocks etc.. It's a precious thing 😏😉🤭😆😅😂🤣

Just a side note about the water thing: The amount of water a bullet will penetrate is (mostly) determined by the bullet's velocity. The faster a bullet moves through water, the less time it has to displace said water and therefore encounters more resistive force. Think similar to oobleck, you can push your finger through it slowly no problem, but it turns rigid if you punch it. Mythbusters actually covered this myth by firing a bunch of different caliber guns into a pool of water. What they found was that things like pistol calibers (9mm, .45, so on) could penetrate a couple of feet, as could some slower rifle calibers. However the 50BMG disintegrated within a couple of inches. If you look for the clip it should still be around on RU-vid. (from memory they didn't test lethal penetration distance, just total distance). If you wanted to get *really* nerdy about that too, you could take into consideration the shockwave from each bullet (as shockwaves are a much bigger threat in water) however I'm fairly certain that it wouldn't be too much of an issue past a foot, at which range shrapnel is probably more of an issue. I suppose either way, water + bullets = strange things and fun times.

When I was a kid I unloaded 2 s&w .357s with 6inch barrels.without ear protection.. I couldn't hear for a month

Don't bring a gun to a fish fight, bring a bow and arrow.

FX's Archer, with all of its action fantasy, does eardrum damage quite consistently. MAWP. MAWP.

"He jumped into the pool!" "Get me a stick of Dynamite!" "Ooo! Problem solved."

Without watching: -Unlimited magazine capacity/hardly ever reload. -No/very little recoil with large bore/caliber weapons. -Shotgun/large bore will make people fly backwards -Tables/walls are bulletproof. -Select fire when said firearm is either semi auto only. -Racking a slide on a shotgun that is not a pump-action. -Selector safety on Glock pistols -Slide on pistols do not move while being fired. -Exaggerated muzzle blast Just a few Hollywood fiction sins from the top of my head. I got more where that came from.

In terms of the sound, this is something I love about Arma 3 (I suppose it applies to other games, too, but here is where I really noticed it). The engine properly simulates how fast every sound moves, and especially with mods, you also get proper reflections, echos and reverb. Not only does this mean that handguns behave properly like this, but you can also have jets fly over above the speed of sound and you get a delayed sound with a sonic boom, and you can also be on the ground while an A-10 goes in for a strafe, hearing the hits before the BRRRT, or you could be in a plane, drop a bomb or shoot a missile, then watch it explode, and seconds later hear the boom... It just makes everything more immersive and realistic, but on top of that, just way cooler.

3:48 niko in the background: i dont have to do the work in my own video lol

4:36 Get you someone who looks at you the way Niko looks at Sam

I've been to Loundess, lovely this time of year.

With suppressors If you shoot subsonic rounds And have a good suppressor They can be very quiet

0:04 niko: your ears would be ringing d: so loud perfect transition

Mythbusters did a lot of these. The last one about water was amazing. Even a 50cal round fired from the pool edge lost all it's energy within a foot or two.

Actually, in Snatch, the Russian goes in, before he assassinates Antonio, he puts in earpro

Movie - Guy hides behind wooden table, totally safe from incoming rifle fire. Real life - That dude is dead Real life - Person is in the water, totally safe from incoming fire. Movie - That dude is dead. Even when physics are on their side, Hollywood still seems to find a way to mess it up.

“It’s called a suppressor not a silencer” - well the inventor of the device calls it a silencer. It was known as Maxim Silencer when it hit the market. Edit: for everyone that thinks that "supressor" is the only correct pick a dictionary and surprise yourself that silencing and suppressing are synonyms so they mean the same thing.

The shootout scene from "Wind River" is by far the most accurate I've ever seen. The men from both sides just pull their pistols and empty their mags into each other in a chaotic and confusing manner, no time for cover, and the thing only lasts like 15 seconds. There's reloading, and people keep fighting through multiple hits. It was very brutal and extremely realistic for a Hollywood gunfight.

Reaper drops his guns and pops out entire new ones. Checkmate.

Guns = Go in water Explosives= Get out of water. Explosions are actually a hell of a lot more lethal in a liquid than out of it

What you guys say about suppressors is generally correct a lot of movies do get it wrong, But the john wick scene is very plausible. A suppressed .22 in a very crowded loud train station would not be heard over the ambient noise level. Everyone likes to quickly jump on that scene and parrot what they have been told about how suppressors don't actually make them silent. It is even more plausible when you introduce .22 subsonic ammo. These are all things a highly trained assassin in the world they have created would know about and use when appropriate. TLDR: All you would hear with a suppressed .22 with subsonic ammo is the quiet click and cycling of the gun action. Which would not be noticeable in a loud crowded train station.

About silencer vs suppressor: No it doesn’t silence a gun, but the guy who invented it many decades ago called it a silencer. And the original laws written for those devices referred to them as silencers. It might be a bit of a misnomer, but they were officially called silencers for half a century before anybody ever called them suppressors. Silencer is to Kleenex as suppressor is to tissue

very few movies ever get that 100% realism that a lot of people want to see. the best ones i've seen are usually about the conflict in the Middle East such as Black Hawk Down or Hurt Locker. action movies are kinda made to stretch realism to it's breaking point just to show how "badass" the hero is, when in reality they'd be dead as hell within the first few seconds of a gunfight. another issue is cars, explosives, and worst of all: nuclear weapons. cars don't explode after taking a couple bullets or after turning over, nor do they ever go flipping off into the air. cars are heavy, and usually gas tanks don't break and leak from the fuel line, but rather split open and pour from the belly side. grenades don't make fireballs. C4 does not make fireballs. dynamite makes a small fireball, sometimes, but not a big one. missiles are a ot faster than movies show. nukes are not a portable thing you can carry. a warhead for a nuke, at minimum, is about the size of a very large and very heavy car engine. they are not as easily stolen as a heist crew of some 12 guys with MP5's. but what really gets me screwy is when they use full auto weapons, spray a huge amount of bullets, and the three they do land (usually to the shoulder, hip, arm or leg) are instantly fatal, meawhile the hero get's shot by a large caliber handgun or a rifle and just "patches it up" and continues to fight as well if not better than before while only showing signs of pain on discomfort. a bullet to the shoulder is not fatal, but if it hits bone you would not be moving your arm for a looong while. if any of this sin't common knowledge, please take it to heart. guns are dangerous things in inexperience or ill-practiced hands. action movies are nothing like real life. don't try to be like rambo and hip-fire an LMG, that would both burn you from the heat of the gun and possibly break your wrist. they have bipods for a reason. have a nice day.

7:33 Everything wrong with the Corridor Crew spelling "Loudness?"

This reminds me of Just Cause 1 where in combat you can hear Rico say "Hope you didn't forget your earplugs"

with the Matrix, it's not that Keanu is The One. it's that he's in a computer simulation, so laws of physics don't have to apply

Super cool to see this. One thing to remember with reloads is that many handguns do hold 15+ rounds, so these aren't always off.

The vast majority of shooter video games don't let you have an extra round chambered if you reload a half-empty mag. It's a huge pet peeve of mine. And then magically that half-empty mag is later full! The game Insurgency: Sandstorm is the only shooter I've played where you have to deal with your half-empty mags. It does all the little details of guns really well.

there is actually an interesting change in sound when you walk parallel to another rifle shooting stand from the target's side towards the shooting side. At first you hear the impact first and the Explosion second, but at some point you hear both the impact and the explosion at the same time, which creates a very distinct overlapping sound. I was suprised when I first heard it and ran back and forth a fiew times, because I was so intreaged by this sound you never hear in movies. It's a mixture of a high pitch clicking and a disturbed classic "bang". Also beside the recoil, which is not as uncontrollable as one might imagine, although much higher than Hollywood tends to portray, and the loud noise, most People are unaware of the strong smell. By the way, some ww2 movies got the "damn it Hans, you can't just fire that Maschinengewehr 42 next to Friedrich's ears!" -- Friedrich: "Was? Verdammte Scheiße!" scene right.

5:24 that had to be the most arkward, quietest gun I battle ever seen😐😐😐

I was hoping I would have seen the scene from black hawk down where one solider shoots a M249 LMG next to a guys head a couple of times and then making him basically deaf.

“Way of the Gun” has correctly timed sniper shot sound reports over distance. Mixed & designed by Chuck Michael. (The scene in the motel parking lot). Also the director Chris McQuarrie kept track of the bullets in each clip, with correct shot counts & reloads. And “Copland” with Stallone has hearing damage from gunfire.

Good Video, but I think Hollywood is aware of that sound fact, most of people aren’t aware of that fact, so it would be pretty weird for them

grenades are super powerful underwater, which is why dynamite fishing was so effective

In that scene mentioned in John Wick 2 I believe they're actually using subsonic rounds or whatever they're called, paired with the suppressor which actually can make the shots quiter. Not quite to that extent though.

7:33 Hollywood doing guns wrong: *plink* Corridor doing guns right: *LOUNDESS INTENSIFIES*

The term "silencer" is ok.. but you're right that they don't really silence.

Also, would love a vid where the good guy comes in and beats all the bad guys that try and do things movie style; hide behind table " haha im safe now!" Then bang! Headeshot through it. Trying to do crazy matrix dodges or rolls, ect...would be funny

"Shooting like 16 or 17 rounds?" *LAUGHS IN CZ*

An annoyance with me (and once you notice you cant stop) is every single time the gun moves or is pointed it makes noise. For the real thing you hear noise when you load it, chamber a round, flip a switch, pull a trigger, etc. not when you just point it, hold it up or swing it left or right. You *might* hear uber subtle noise from metal on a sling, but thats it.

GTA San Andreas also got bullets in water wrong and it was unfair. The 4 Star Police Helicopter could shoot it's rounds to any depth in water and even aim precisely at you as though there was no visual obstruction.

7:32 "Loundess" guns are very Lound

Police officers usually do fire weapons without hearing protection. They aren't expecting to shoot their guns, and they don't have time to put in earplugs when they get into a fight. SWAT officers might put on some electronic earmuffs before a raid, but the detective shows where they fire without earpro are realistic. I've accidentally shot a glock without earpro, and it's loud and makes your ears ring slightly, but it isn't painful. If you do it all the time (like if you trained without earpro) it would destroy your hearing, but a couple shots in an emergency isn't bad at all.

No suppressors aren’t just for hearing, it’s for signature reduction. A suppressor will reduce muzzle flash and the noise so it’s harder to locate you.

There is one film that gets the sound on point and that is Master and Commander, I guess there cannons not guns but same principle.

"that's why u should play tarkov" relatable

Keanu Reeves was in like every gun scene.

In the field, you have an ammo bag, because you should definitely reload when you can. You don't want to enter a firefight with less than a full mag. You can collect your loose bullets and reload during one of the MANY lulls in combat.

Just a note for the John Wick part, it was a joke because the people of NYC ignored a worker in the set when he clearly needed help. They put that scene on the movie to show that the people does not care about what's happening around them. The people that was working in the production knew that it wouldn't totally silence a pistol but because of what happened on that day, they really wanted to put that scene into the movie. (Sorry for my bad england) xd

For stealth use subsonic .45 or .22 ammunition with a suppressor and it will be very low noise But only good for close contact which most stealth should be

At 4:00 that gun is going to be firing subsonic projectiles so it would be the way round that it already is.

It's like watching ground videos of A10 Warthogs shooting stuff. You see the dust from the bullet impacts, then the sound of the bullets impacting, then the characteristic "BRRRRT" a few seconds later.

I remember seeing The Accountant in the theater and being really impressed by the fact that they had a bullet hit something before the shot was heard.

The end of the first episode of The Walking Dead has a nice scene where Rick ends up in an M1 Abrams (Chieftain Mk.10) and fires his Colt Anaconda at a zombified soldier inside. Rick is then stunned for awhile as the gunshot painfully deafens him since he's in such a small space. It is a little odd that while firing at some zombies underneath the tank he doesn't seem bothered but I suppose there is possibly more space to allow sound to travel elsewhere.

Also D the first patent calls it a silencer so technically they are silencers. Suppressor is just a more accurate term

You left out one of my favorite pet peeves and you even displayed it several times with the Quigley down under in a long distance bucket shoot. When a bullet strike something it doesn’t pop straight up in the air, it flies backwards from the momentum of the strike. They even failed the litmus test on one of my favorite movies of Clint Eastwood unforgiven when he was shooting at the cans missed them all with the pistol and then hit one with a shotgun then it pops straight up into the air instead of flying backwards and disintegrating or at least being shredded.

I wanna find someone who looks at me like Niko looks at Sam when talking about gun acoustics. @3:22

Talking about movie sins about guns while in latest video, they load a mag into an AK, charge it so a round is chambered, but when the mag is taken out, it doesn't fire :thinking:

You guys know in a few WW2 movies were there is a gun fight in a submarines, and a guy unloads a submachine gun inside without looking phased at all. It makes my ears hurt when I watch that in movies.

A scene with an action hero just putting in earplugs first would actually be really funny. Someone needs to do that.

I liked it just because he said that's why you should play Tarkov