Everything You Need to Know about BART's Legacy Fleet!

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Back in September, we launched the BART legacy fleet in HO scale. We also said we'd have a follow-up video going into much more detail...and here it is!
Jordan, Josh and Matt made the trip to BART's maintenance facilities in Richmond, CA to get photos, take measurements and get the history of the A, B and C class cars directly from the source. Plus, Josh does an in-depth dive into all the details and features that we'll be including on the models.
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@donwhead Год назад

As someone born and raised in the Bay Area who used to ride BART daily to work, I just want to put in another vote for having these released in N scale!

@rapidotrains Год назад

Hey, if we get enough requests, you never know!

@armaniitownsend-baltrip5017 Год назад

I agree

@armaniitownsend-baltrip5017 Год назад

@@rapidotrainswe need this in n scale

@N_Scale_And_Stuff Год назад

Yeah you should definitely put it in N scale!

@SeanLamb-I-Am Год назад

I hope these come to N scale eventually. I would love to add them to my NTrak subway modules.

@Tipman2OOO Год назад

Right first thing I thought!!! I would be in the market for it

@chrisrey8964 Год назад

Dude that would be sick

@rapidotrains Год назад

It's a future possibility!

@AndrewMeggs Год назад

Jay Sathe has great energy and insight, a great ambassador for the BART and public transit systems. As a UK OO modeller…this might be a ‘rule 1’ purchase 😅

@rapidotrains Год назад

He certainly loves what he does!

@bsquiklehausen Год назад

Can't wait for these cars! And you couldn't have found a nerdier BART employee to talk to either!

@JeffFromTheIRS Год назад

I’m honestly not sure why I didn’t expect the spokesperson to be you haha

@rapidotrains Год назад

You can feel the passion from Jay!

@pieroluciano3272 Год назад

Nice! Hopefully these also come out in N scale as they would go well with the Kato Viaduct system! 😎👍

@rapidotrains Год назад

We're hearing a lot of n scale requests!

@adaribros Год назад

Can’t wait for DC METRO!

@rapidotrains Год назад

It's possible!

@robrepass2179 Год назад

Bart and DC Metro look alike

@robrepass2179 Год назад

Plus both their new cars have rubber seats and an automatic computer map in case passengers get lost

@jimbokay5696 Год назад

Will they eventually come to N scale? I just recently "switched" to N from HO, but I've always wanted an iconic BART train!! What to do!!

@rapidotrains Год назад

If enough people hit up our product suggestion form, it would be hard to ignore!

@lolfunnycp Год назад

Went to school in the Bay; these bring back so many memories! Hyped for this release and can't wait for more Rapid(o) Transit to come... WMATA Metro (filled the suggestion form), LA Metro, or even BART fleet of the future would be fire 🔥

@CityOfGravella Год назад

I, too, would like to see their take on Washington Metro cars.

@rapidotrains Год назад

Hopefully much more transit to come!

@TheJordanHunt3r 4 месяца назад

Still remember when bart was in 3 movies. Pursuit of happiness, Fruitvale station and Predator 2

@rapidotrains 3 месяца назад

Neat!

@AtticusThings Год назад

I'd love to see or hear an update on these cars! as I just placed my preorder

@robertbeck168 Год назад

Fun video with a ton of vintage information. This will be the third iteration of BART in HO. There were the metal body cars with Athearn drive and then the plastic Walthers cars shown in the video. I have a number of those. Rapid transit modeling then, and still, was a niche so getting them, and the DC Metro cars too, in the 70's to 90's was a treat. Appearance wise, the cut outs in the skirt at the trucks is the biggest detraction but, for the price, they weren't bad.

@rapidotrains Год назад

As modelers, we sometimes have to just take what we can get. Something is better than nothing!

@mikeking245 Год назад

I've been begging them to do this for Toronto for years. Really begging.... the jealousy I feel is burning. But im still going to buy one of these you bet!!

@rapidotrains Год назад

This is hopefully just the beginning of our transit offerings!

@robertbeck168 Год назад

BART's Rohr cars definitely outlasted their younger Washington Metro siblings. They still have a way to go to match New York's Budd R32's which were recently retired at 58. Hopefully, BART will retain a few Rohr cars for excursions and special events.

@rapidotrains Год назад

We hope so too!

@ybunnygurl Год назад

DCs Metro cars are way more abused, and not kept up manically.

@Mike__B Год назад

@@ybunnygurl The original BART cars would have been too, which is why they've changed from what the originally were with carpet in the cars that was ripped out to vinyl flooring to more easily clean, and seats that probably can be pressure washed. The newest design however looks ages better than the vast majority of cars which look very dated and almost feel gross (which unfortunately is the vast majority of trains I always happen to get). But the new cars that will make up the fleet do feel a lot nicer and cleaner, could be because they're just so new too.

@kevinwong6588 Год назад

The 1968 PATCO fleet would outlast them.

@mikecole819 Год назад

Bombardier making these up at Plattsburgh, NY due south of Montreal, Que. I see these cars on flatbed trucks here in Albany, NY enroute to Hornell, NY for final work.

@rapidotrains Год назад

Cool!

@MCole-xz3cz Год назад

@@rapidotrains another one yesterday

@yootoob7048 Год назад

Add my vote for an N Scale Bart. If it helps, I have in N Scale the Rapido Pendolino, TurboTrain (VIA & Amtrak) and Canadian with 2 F40PH. And, my name is on the list for the Turboliner.

@rapidotrains Год назад

Wow! Well, you certainly deserve an N scale BART!

@johnbrubaker2033 Год назад

I too hope they come in N scale, run on time, and don’t have homeless people urinating in them.

@rapidotrains Год назад

We can promise none of those things at this time...

@Zephyr_Silver Год назад

Definitely excited for this being a Bay Area local who took BART for many, many years to get around (and still do) and a model railroader. Do you think there may eventually be scale models for the D and E cars as well?

@rapidotrains Год назад

We have no immediate plans for the D&E cars, but they'll be something to revisit as we expand our transit offerings!

@avlisk Год назад

Your archive footage here reminds me of an episode of The Streets of San Francisco that featured a chase scene in a BART station. The system was still under construction and trains had yet to be run. It was pretty cool.

@donwhead Год назад

Now I'm going to have to go find that episode. Used to watch that with my dad.

@markplott4820 8 месяцев назад

rapodotrains - I think someone in the 1980's made (model railroad) BART trains under License. they were sold at the OLD ACE Hardware in Berkeley , CA which had a ACE model Store in the Basement.

@WasatchGarandMan Год назад

When I lived in the Bay Area me and my Grandfather would take BART into San Francisco. Been a long time since I rode BART so I might pick up an unpowered A Car

@rapidotrains Год назад

It's a great way to preserve the memories!

@michaelzekas Год назад

The detail looks stunning as always. Like a few people said, if you're doing prototypes from metro systems, I'd drop some good money on a run of WMATA Metrorail cars-the original Rohrs or any of the Breda series.

@rapidotrains Год назад

Definitely a future possibility!

@plaws0 Год назад

Thanks for getting the "BARTD" Chief Foaming Officer for the piece. In all seriousness, obviously very knowledgable and also very good on camera. AND DAMNED IF HIS NAME ISN'T "JAY" ... Good work all around.

@rapidotrains Год назад

Thank you!

@chasemartin4450 Год назад

As a frequent BART rider, I would *love* some cafe cars on the system!

@kaicandoit Год назад

Some of the oldest rolling stock in america? *laughs in Boston*

@rapidotrains Год назад

The gauntlet has been thrown down!

@ahirschfeld1974 Год назад

The old Blue Line Hawker-Siddeley Canada 600 series cars would be cool to model since they had both pantographs and third rail power.

@hotrail8295 Год назад

Bring em on!! Looking forward to my ABBBCCBBBA set!!

@rapidotrains Год назад

Epic!

@odyshopody9387 Год назад

I'm a 27 year mechanic with BART, and getting ready to retire. Would love to have one of these on my desk, it would go nicely with my ships model from my time in the Navy!

@rapidotrains Год назад

It would be the perfect retirement gift!

@CityOfGravella Год назад

While it’s not BART, I do have a full-fledged WMATA subway layout with some of their awesome looking stations and would love to see your take on their cars.

@rapidotrains Год назад

Well depending on how well these cars do, we'd love to expand into other transit markets!

@aidanrouse3899 Год назад

I would love an n-scale bart, id buy a full 10 car consist!

@rapidotrains Год назад

We encourage you to bombard our product suggestion form!

@stagergamer4172 Год назад

it would be really cool see you guys make a marta CQ310, since those are being retired soon

@rapidotrains Год назад

Thanks for the suggestion!

@HunterLohseRRVideos 10 месяцев назад

As one of WRM's main film archivists and seeing these done proper, shut up and take my money and my broke filmmaker wallet are about to cause an apocalypse! With pre-order closed, itll be a nuclear mushroom now!

@rapidotrains 10 месяцев назад

These are going to be really cool models! While the conditional deadline has passed, we’re still taking orders until the samples have arrived and we’re ready for production. Stay tuned!

@oscarrosas1233 Год назад

I think bart should made the classic nose front on the new cars also , I think the nose front will be iconic

@rapidotrains Год назад

That would be cool!

@robrepass2179 Год назад

Hopefully some of their Rohr cars as well as Washington Metros Rohr cars get preserved in a Museum

@rapidotrains Год назад

We hope so too!

@Kitty8791 11 месяцев назад

BART had Pre-Qualification applications due in March 2021. Some of these were selected to submit Request Proposals for unique projects they'd like to use retired legacy trains for (though most will be recycled in West Oakland). Of 20 proposals, they selected 8. Per the San Francisco Standard, "A handful of legacy BART cars are also being preserved for use as museum artifacts, an arcade, a bike repair shop, a bar and a short-term rental property." Now you can hunt all of those down to visit some day. (BART had a piece in 2022 about the selected projects that you can Google.)

@bartjvonk Год назад

Thanks you! I do have cool trains! Like the Rapido budd and some x31 boxcars😅😅

@raulmatiascasaszavala4822 Год назад

Next LACMTA Breda A650 Cars.

@rapidotrains Год назад

We shall see...

@raulmatiascasaszavala4822 Год назад

That's good because I sent you a message from Gmail about that project.

@Marcus71 Год назад

The C Cars are officially retired on the BART System.

@rapidotrains Год назад

End of an era...

@Lucrativecris Год назад

You guys should make the Nippon sharyo P865 in HO I would really buy that

@rapidotrains Год назад

Hit up our product suggestion form!

@pmk2000 Год назад

BART is advanced and futuristic. Great to have Legacy fleet in model trains, they are iconic. In late 90s When I was a kid , I took the BART when visiting SF, usually travelling between SF and Fremont, I love the ride. I remembered the buzz of the train and the announcement by George.

@ahirschfeld1974 Год назад

By George do you mean the Steven Hawking like computer generated announcements over the PA system in the stations?

@rapidotrains Год назад

It's definitely one of the more unique transit experiences!

@TheJordanHunt3r 3 месяца назад

I can see the fleet of the future bart being ho scale as well later on down the line. All i have to say is 90s walthers brand barts aint got NOTHING on Rapido bart trains. I know the design will be amazing on these new barts. Hope to see them released by the holidays of this year.

@korenng5553 5 месяцев назад

Loved Bart and right in SF Embarcadero Ctr when Grand Opening May 1973 Hyatt Regency. Great times !

@jdayal123 Год назад

ordering these because they look amazing and to encourage you to give the rapid treatment to the NYC subway (r-44?) and the LIRR / MNRR MUs :)

@rapidotrains Год назад

That's the kind of encouragement we're looking for!

@OntarioTrafficMan Год назад

If you stuck HO bogies on a hypothetical future N gauge version, how close would that be to the correct broad gauge?

@rapidotrains Год назад

You'd have the famed 8'8" ultra mega broad gauge used in Mordor.

@OntarioTrafficMan Год назад

@@rapidotrains Haha okay then I seriously underestimated the size difference. Thanks!

@luldreamer4159 Год назад

Ngl it’s sick but I don’t they will make it a O scale with doors opening and closing now that will be sick

@rapidotrains Год назад

Indeed!

@alanthefisher Год назад

I can confirm nor deny if I was there that day

@bsquiklehausen Год назад

You're in the credits

@rapidotrains Год назад

Your secret's safe with us!

@MAJICCATANIMATIONS Год назад

6:41 I notice a station between Fremont and Warm springs, is that gonna be a new station later in the future?

@peterkneissl3358 Год назад

So how about lirr m7. No guage problem there

@rapidotrains Год назад

You never know!

@pierslindley Год назад

I suppose for longevity, the UK's HST fleet natch these BART units though not Rapid Transit Units. Great to see technology lasting excellently well like this.

@plaws0 Год назад

Pretty sure Montreal's MR-63 Metro cars hit 50 years of revenue service would have to dig. The MPM-10s that replaced them took a LONG time to come online. The BART guy was right, though, these still look modern.

@rapidotrains Год назад

They don't make em like they used to!

@refyaks Год назад

Really appreciate the work and research that goes into these productions! Have you ever considered taking on any NYC subway projects? The R62/R62As are up for retirement soon, and the model train world is severely lacking quality subway models at HO, let alone N scale. Sure it would be a hit, not just selfishly suggesting for my own construction needs...

@rapidotrains Год назад

We have other transit related projects under consideration. Stay tuned!

@aaronhill8315 Год назад

Sideshow Bob: hello Bart B.A.R.T stops at station

@rapidotrains Год назад

🤣

@PaulFisher Год назад

ApuLover69 says “Just like BART!”

@thanoslovesdeath Год назад

Any idea if we could get models of the D and E cars down the line?

@rapidotrains Год назад

We certainly hope to expand our transit offerings!

@trainglen22 Год назад

Love the video. BART is an interesting system that was featured in a fantastic movie called THX 1138.

@rapidotrains Год назад

Indeed it was!

@Vector_QF8 Год назад

Fantasy BARt - add this to the consist and you have my order!

@rapidotrains Год назад

We just just have to!

@blakrootz 5 месяцев назад

Most train clubs are known for code 83 track. Will it be compatable?

@rapidotrains 5 месяцев назад

Absolutely!

@dianethulin1700 Год назад

I like the brutalistic architecture of some of the stations like W. Oakland and Fruitvale. They look like a Bart train. Saw an episode of Streets of San Francisco filmed at a Bart station in the Mission before it opened

@rapidotrains Год назад

Love that 70s vibe!

@dennisnichols7123 Год назад

Part of the software for the new drive system on the bombadier cars was designed by my ex wifes new ex husband and let me tell you.....BART is in for headaches hahahaha

@rapidotrains Год назад

🤣

@thenewlevi Год назад

So cool how they are still using A cars! I hope they push them as long as they can

@rapidotrains Год назад

It looks like they plan in it!

@danieledistioromanmendoza47 Год назад

hand workers for coworkers Travis this job people differently feeling budget family see budding

@rapidotrains Год назад

😎

@thequietcraftsman Год назад

These are amazing, and what a great video. I am currently working on a regional transit build of my own-- an MBTA 1600 car, which are one year older than the BART fleet. It's somewhat crudely 3d printed, but has working servo-actuated doors. Still, maybe one day rapido or someone will make some MBTA rolling stock and I hope regional transit grows within the hobby!

@rapidotrains Год назад

That sounds neat!

@lbrookesahm465 Год назад

I have an original set of BART HO gauge I got sometime in the late 70’s, or early 80’s. My favorite model train.

@rapidotrains Год назад

Awesome!

@trainluvr Год назад

This is a great video that really generates excitement for the models. I may buy a display one. I find that railfan's homes littered with models are tacky looking and I don't have any, but if I made an exception it would be for this. The BART car design is one of the few times a stunning futuristic design actually came to fruition without compromises and never became outdated. The New York R-46 was another Sundber-Farrar gem which unfortunately was undermined by a stingy and uncaring management, although the interiors of THOSE cars are probably the most unaltered in the history of subway car interiors (in New York anyway).

@rapidotrains Год назад

It's a great first display model!

@raluca75brasov Год назад

BART must build a line that connects from san francisco airport to stanford and San jose

@rapidotrains Год назад

And Hawaii!

@fredashay Год назад

With the extra wide track, I bet they could easily go 100 MPH if the trains were rated for it.

@rapidotrains Год назад

Most likely!

@RogueRail Год назад

Any chance you guys are going to do the new generation BART cars in the near future?

@rapidotrains Год назад

No immediate plans, but it's possible down the road!

@hyperian_one Год назад

Drinking beer from a Yoda cup, Ahhhhh? Only a Canadian would do that. Aaaaahhhhhhh

@rapidotrains Год назад

This is the way.

@bernardygm Год назад

It's so sad to see the legacy fleet go, that look is just so iconic. I wish the newer trains would look like a postmodernistic version of them at least

@rapidotrains Год назад

That would've been cool!

@SebastianSegura1138 Год назад

Would the units including sound have sounds for both propulsion types? It would be amazing to have the original chopper propulsion sounds to hear on their own!

@michwashington Год назад

They should never retire these 😮

@jgalexander510 Год назад

As a former BART rider, I love this video and can’t wait to get these on my layout. That’s for making them!

@rapidotrains Год назад

It's our pleasure!

@fredashay Год назад

I'm very tempted to buy these, but my model railroad operates in the northeast branching out from NYC.

@rapidotrains Год назад

Your railroad, your rules!

@fredashay Год назад

@@rapidotrains Yeah, you just wanna sell more trains 😛 But okay. I just ordered one from Tony's Trains and two extra coaches! #BigCreditCardBillNextMonth Maybe the LIRR or NJ Transit will experiment with it and park it next to my APT-E...

@Lucrativecris Год назад

6:45 Soon they’ll have to compete with LA metro since they’re extending the gold line to San Bernardino

@Lucrativecris Год назад

How many remaining Legacy fleet are left?

@rapidotrains Год назад

We're not sure, but they're going fast!

@markplott4820 8 месяцев назад

rapidotrains - back in the 1970's when I rode BART , we could look into the Operators cab and see some of the Controls and the Speed of the Train. It was Pretty Cool that the Operators cab had Door Controls both on Left & Right sides. often the Speed in the Transbay Tube was 99mph and sometimes 115 mph. on elevated Tracks the Speed was SET to 80 mph max.

@CentralJerseyRailfan Год назад

Will the unpowered display A cars be able to operate in consists with the others?

@rapidotrains Год назад

They'll certainly roll, but they won't have any lights.

@CentralJerseyRailfan Год назад

@@rapidotrains At least they can be used DIT, thanks! Are there couplers on those?

@chrislongbeard Год назад

This would be great in T gauge. Just think of all the room you could use. 12 inches is 1 mile so with a little selective compression you could do half the system in a basement

@rapidotrains Год назад

You mean 12 feet is 1 mile!

@chrislongbeard Год назад

@@rapidotrains you're correct must not have carried the 1 somewhere

@nicholai1008 Год назад

Hey I’m just here to beg for an N scale version as well.

@rapidotrains Год назад

Join the line, it's getting pretty long!

@nayibah4188 11 месяцев назад

BART was forward thinking except for the hardware wye... They screwed up on that one.

@russellgxy2905 Год назад

A cars with "streamlined" ends already had my attention, but the C cars being end-cars and "trailers," _and_ having concealed diaphragms?! Even cooler! You rarely see either on rapid transit systems. The only other trains I can think of with those features were the old high-speed Metroliners! Also what do you mean Broad Gauge?!

@rapidotrains Год назад

BART runs on 5'6" gauge track, a full 9.5" wider than standard gauge

@briansmith8967 Год назад

Back in the early 70's I had an AA set of HO BART cars. Pretty fun since BART was just starting to operate in 1972.

@rapidotrains Год назад

They're probably worth a fortune now!

@derek20la Год назад

2:53 Conventional, except for the wide gauge track. Meaning everything is custom.

@rapidotrains Год назад

Minor detail!

@The_BayAreaRailfan Год назад

I live near Richmond Yard😮

@rapidotrains Год назад

Lucky!

@The_BayAreaRailfan Год назад

@@rapidotrains when will we get these BART cars?

@Emperor_NYC Год назад

Now imagine the amount of detail and creativity there would be if these were eventually introduced into the O scale scene..

@rapidotrains Год назад

Detail would be off the charts!

@mrhobbles385 Год назад

Add another to the N scale requests please! The HO scale model is cool, but I have far more room for N scale! :D

@rapidotrains Год назад

Well, start bombarding our product suggestion form!

@SeemaRani-yi6im 2 месяца назад

😮

@RichardZoller1 Год назад

Would love to see Chicago 1980-1990s subway stuff made.

@rapidotrains Год назад

We'd love to expand our transit offerings!

@SeemaRani-yi6im 2 месяца назад

❤️

@eriktereshenko4083 Год назад

In the A-B-B-A dcc sound car set , will only one end car have dcc and sound ?

@rapidotrains Год назад

Both A cars are fully equipped with DCC/sound.

@clarencethompson1278 Год назад

Are we getting anymore septa models ?

@rapidotrains Год назад

At this time we don't have any other Septa models planned, but anything is possible down the road.

@clarencethompson1278 Год назад

@@rapidotrains well I hope you guys atleast make the new cars that Bart just rolled out so we can have the best of both. Its nice to see subway trains being modeled for a chance.

@wceyuki Год назад

if i can order these cars in DC, doesn't that make it the DC metro and not BART?

@rapidotrains Год назад

Things that make you go hmmm...

@Perich29 5 месяцев назад

you can find one at Universal Studio Hollywood on the backlot tour at stage 50.

@rapidotrains 5 месяцев назад

Cool!

@TheAdrianMc Год назад

I have my A-B-B-A set pre-ordered!! Now I think I need to get 2 C cars so i can have one 6car or two 3car consists!!

@rapidotrains Год назад

Ooh...one or two trains...tough choice!

@TheAdrianMc Год назад

@@rapidotrains ugghhhhh... I know!! This is all your fault!!! 😩😩😩

@AcelaRailfanning 8 месяцев назад

Would love to see WMATA please!!!

@trainswithnickyt Год назад

Just to be clear, you were not with Jay Schron right? I mean, where is that hoser anyway?

@rapidotrains Год назад

He's working on his layout!

@trainswithnickyt Год назад

@@rapidotrains Hopefully we can have an update video of progress soon then. Whilst I love all these models coming out, it's even better to see the layouts people are using them on