How Road Barriers Stopped Killing Drivers 

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I am the opposite of the guy above me lolol. I'm so glad RU-vid suggested me your videos! I absolutely LOVE this style of video, and I appreciate how much work goes into each of these! you deserve so many more subs, heres +1.

Please continue to make this type of video. I enjoy watching them

Love your channel, happy to have discovered it 😀

we have the show Dukes of Hazzard to thank for that!

Nice grammar

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Yeah I've definitely seen those types of barriers on the roads.

Correct. Its important to be able to spot the which is which, it might save your life.

Yep, I have a friend who got a piece of guardrail through her chin and jaw in an accident. Luckily lived with just a scar. (Edit- and I'm not yet thirty, so this wasn't like ye olden times either)

@@barryallen5507 so you would know where you can crash safely? That's dumb, all crashes are accidents, you can't pick where nor into what you crash into, because it happens too fast to react 99% of the time.

@@Dragon_breeder all crashes are not accidents and it is often still possible to control the vehicle to a moderate degree during partial loss of control. When I was 19, I hydroplaned on the highway at 70mph in a curve in the rain, the water was too deep because of welling and my tire tread was too thin because I young and broke, I was on a direct collision path with a Grove of trees that would have very likely resulted in my death, so I chose to actively counter steer (a tactic used in rally racing to control the forward direction of the vehicle moving at a high rate of speed on terrain with low traction) and allowed my vehicle to engine brake instead of using my brakes because that would have locked up my wheels and resulted in complete loss of control. I am alive today because of my ability to drive and the choices in made during that crash. Instead of veering off to the right of the road and continuing straight into the trees with only a seatbelt to 'save' me (more like kill me, check vehicle crash stats and impact of seatbelts during collisions over 40mph for context), I guided the vehicle back to the left leaning curve and hit the wire guard rail. Initial impact with the railing ripped my entire left front suspension out of the vehicle, causing my brakes to fail and leaving me with only one wheel to steer and a cable pull hand brake that controlled the rear wheels. I spun out and continued to redirect the vehicle towards the rail to the left side instead of the hill to the right side. I hit all four corners of the vehicle on the rail and did 2.5 full spins, after which point I had slowed down and dissipated enough energy that I managed to straighten out the vehicle even with one wheel and used my handbrake to stop just on the right edge of the road. We're not all old or slow like you I guess. You can work on your reaction times through practice. If the only thing you know how to do in a car is travel in a straight line, you are certainly doomed in the event you lose control. There are advanced driving classes you can take to further expand your ability to mitigate danger in a loss of control event, like sliding on ice or hydroplaning or spinning out, I'd recommend you attend at least one. The only way that you cannot pick where you crash is if you have total loss of traction (rare occurence), your vehicle systems fail due to damage (possible, but unlikely), or you are suffering from a medical emergency. "That's dumb" personal experience and the entire racing industry begs to differ.

you are a good person

Every second a road is unable to be used = huge amounts of losses for logistics and industries so you're not what the government cares about.

@@edenassos if the governments in NA truly cared for your safety, the drivers license process would reflect that of countries with lower crash rates.

Whinge

Similar to how we underestimate and overlook how God created the universe. Interesting how our bodies are designed to do many things you never even knew about for example.

When you said he went to jail somehow I breathed a sigh of relief. I imagine much worse. This also goes to show how safe modern vehicles are - being able to survive 85+ mph collision so that his ass can be put in jail.

yeah now as a DOT worker are you going out constantly repairing guardrails? because i see this one guy going around roasting you workers for not having them perfect all the time.

Wow, 85+mph? It's a blessing he didn't kill any of your crew. I just hope he'll never drive again in his life.

The thing I liked about Germany, when I was stationed there, is that if someone drives drunk or impaired and gets in an accident, they lose their driving privileges for life, which is the way it should be in the United States. No second chances for drunk, impaired, vehicle manslaughter, or even road rage.

@@jarrrr69 Steve eimers hasnt roasted my employer yet but i started a guardrail inspection program because of him

Same XD

Still not hitting any of them is the best decision to make

@@ivanbullykov3442 Oh, really?? I never thought of that! Thanks!

@@tristanbach4421 you’re welcome

same

That’s a good ending, but I hope no one goes 60 mph in a snowstorm anymore

@@Avathreyn dude the fuck?

@@user-ut9ln4vd5m could also be 60 km/h which is about 37 mph

Judging by replies I’m sure this David fellow is just swell at parties. In all actuality, it’s a relief no one was hurt in your situation. I have a higher appreciation for road barriers now thanks to both the video and this comment!

@@federicoalcantara4796 even 60km/h can be a lot in a snowstorm, especially if you don't have winter tires, or do have a driver who is inexperienced with driving in slippery snow. Heck, some rainstorms should slow you down way below that too.

I'm genuinely curious, so I'm sorry if this sounds rude, I just want to know more. Guardrail guy is a guy on RU-vid that makes videos of him walking around roads and showing every guardrail that's not installed correctly because his daughter was killed by an incorrectly installed guardrail. Is that actually an issue with the guardrails where if every bolt isn't put into the exact place it goes, can it actually kill someone? Because I feel like if that's true, wouldn't DOTs be making sure everyone knew how to install one before letting them go do it for real? Or wouldn't they have made some other regulation to prevent it?

A wild Mark Rober appears! Literally the first comment I saw waking up. Made my morning! I hope you enjoy it. Thanks for being an inspiration to me, to help me dream bigger and create better things.

You brought me here

When this was posted on Reddit I immediately thought of you, lmao.

Henlo mark

This was truly and awesome educational video, even Mark approves!

“Make it a ramp so if the crash they dont fuck up our nice wall”

lol

"Aye if someones gonna die, might as well make it a show*"

@@andresacosta5318 lol

tbf makes crashes way cooler for ppl to post on social media, would be a blessing for society since they dont give a fuck anymore and just film u dying anyway

Glad to hear! Helped me with my own anxiety too!

Omg guys, you better start crashing here or I’ll have to do it myself

It might sound weird, but you can always count on human stupidity. Crashes are going to keep happening, because idiots are given the wheel. This doesn't mean that everybody involved in an accident are idiots, no. What I mean is that in every crash, excluding some very specific circumstances like mechanical failure, an idiot is the cause.

@@PunakiviAddikti human error ≠ idiocy. every once in a while, everyone is bound to have a shitty day where they're gonna have trouble paying attention to the road but need to make a commute regardless.

@@yokowan I know, I understand human error. But I have seen and heard some genuine idiots behind the wheel. Think Karen T-bones another car because "she's too important to stop at a red light".

@@PunakiviAddikti those people exist but they're rare. I've run a fair share of red lights myself but never on purpose. it's unfair to say it's one in almost every crash

I vote we change it to "head splat"

*Slaps top of head "This baby can fit so much brain damage in it."

I watched someones head slap through the glass after the car we were in hit a barrier- we all lived.

@@Sabreeshuh that person is both extremely lucky and unlucky

@@kolby4078 Massive understatement. Head splat is way more accurate.

Yeah, lol. I just thought it was land to separate the lanes.

If you've ever driven in an area where a snowstorm is happening, you're likely to see at least a few cars that have slid into those clear zones.

@@featheryfemme Which is called a clear zone. An area to separate the lanes. For safety reasons and so on 😉

It probably is. In the UK the hard shoulder where you can stop if you breakdown. Now in the Wisdom of some highway agency it is being gradually converted to an extra lane. Now it's breakdowns that are killing people...

I assume in many cases it’s a combination of both, with the median being in some cases wide enough to add another lane or two with a safe clear zone, or in others with an eye towards replacing the earthen median with a fixed (probably concrete) barrier, depending upon predictions of future traffic.

Read this just Andrew showed the table that included the estimated monetary value of a life

I remember in the 80's, I was probably around 8 yrs old at the time, meeting a guy that had part of a wooden (I believe) guard rail stuck inside of him from a car wreck that they couldn't remove for fear it would kill him.

I’ll do it

A doctor makes a mistake, one person dies. An engineer makes a mistake, potentially hundreds or thousands will die.

If we can say the Carnage Alley barriers were only installed due to the media exposure and lobbying, think that that same money could maybe have been used to make barriers in busier areas where it would save more lives overall.

ikr

this much thought is put into toilet paper.

@@Tycy2014 You too ? Some times I can't remember which hand to use either.

Nasa has a 60 page guide on how to splice 2 wires together.

I once saw them installing them and they were using this massive piledriver to put the uprights into the ground. Those upright supports go so deep it's amazing. Here where I live they have tried to extend protection to ground level to protect motorcyclists as the upright can tear a human practically in half if hit the right way by a sliding human.

im a layman so how bout a net

70s engineer drinking a beer: *looks at freind* hey bob would u rather be impaled or flung into space

Hehe car go YEET

70s engineer: (in Beavis and Butthead style) "Cool! Yeah yeah!"

Hey they were trying!

@@SpecterNeverSpectator sh

I always figured the goal of some of these was to save multi million dollar bridges from damage rather than saving lives.

@@jamieh7725 Uhm... well obviously yes. The guy u responded to said exactly that.

I thought I was the only one dying with that footage 🤣🤣🤣

I was so focused understanding all mechanics and all stuff, and suddenly there is a car flying as it was rocket league 🤣🤣

@@huberttargosz318 smh no need

Thanks Jackson!

You're welcome! Glad you're better informed!

A driver also , Dittos !

Here in Russia, we call motorcyclists "bumper stickers"

@@izperehoda my favourite was Stephen fry on Parkinson. You need a surgery…(look out window)…but it’s raining so shouldn’t be too long What do you mean Well you know our name for motorcyclists? DONORS

@@trayolphia5756 ye we also use that term but not too much. Also we have a slang word "crunchies" for the sound of a motorcyclists cracking bones

@@trayolphia5756 In Romania we also call them organ donors.

That's kinda funny although it shouldn't:(

especially since we actually want to watch it

I'd love to watch this in school

Government employees toil in obscurity to make every day life safer and more enjoyable and all they get is scorn and hate. I'm tired of it.

When the whole class finishes the test early

Blender Guru hey sexy thing hru ? 😘

This is such a random place to see you again, wth?

Wow, didn't expect to see you here😂

do nut

But did u donate?

Going to the emergency flasher Bailando to Mexico

thanks for the laugh lol

That is like saying I need my house robbed more often so my insurance cost per. robbery will be less.

Y'now, I don't trust joey.

While safety measures have increased survivability of accidents, the root cause of accidents have spread unchecked in recent yrs. In Ca, Latino drivers cause a disproportionate % of DUIs, hit and runs, distracted driving. Disregard for common decency, the safety of other motorists; and, even traffic law, run rampantly amok among Calif Latinos. It'd be great if you could help shed some light on this censored topic to prompt proper public discourse and overdue action to address this taboo issue.

A collapsible barrier stopped me and my family from going off the edge off a cliff after we had hydroplaned at 50mph in heavy rain. It slowed us down enough that my dad was able to get control again and steer us back to the shoulder. Your dad's work saved us and will save many more lives to come. I'll give my thx to you so you can give it to him one day, if you believe in that. So thank you!

@@freddywesly If anything your dad's driving nearly killed you. Driving that fast in heavy rain near a cliff sounds really reckless.

@@cyan_oxy6734 not really. 50 is incredibly slow here in California for our freeways, and we were in the slow lane still getting honked at. Almost every freeway here is next to a sharp drop at some point. We just hit an unlucky patch of water going around a bend and hydroplaned. Even going 25 in a school zone, you can hydroplane. There's nothing you can do but wait it out

@@cyan_oxy6734 Yeah rolling over puddles at highway speeds while turning will surely make you hydroplane. Especially in the US where everyone's going almost 1.5 times the speed limit, especially in inclement weather.

@@freddywesly somehow every single time, a person who obviously doesnt drive replies something very dumb. im sorry that guy doesnt understand anything LMFAO

Yeah I drove into a guardrail with a catchment net over the top, that net bounced my SUV back onto the road and had almost no damage to the car body

@@Selmarya I can’t tell if your trolling or not it’s funny imagining it in my head

i think the not tensing up during an accident is a myth other than that glad youre ok

@@sirepauly im actually pretty sure its true, that's usually why drunk drivers usually survive crashes, because the alcohol slows their reaction time and relaxes their muscles

@@sirepauly it's true, I'm studying physics and we learn about stuff like this, softer surfaces slow down the impulse (how long you hit the surface for) and tensing muscles makes your arms stiffer which means if they hit something they are more likely to break instead of bruising only

Lmfao so basically they said "Sounds like a you problem if you hit a guard rail"

So basically it was "don't be stupid and drive responsibly", to the now "some people are too stupid and can't be trusted to drive responsibly, we engineers need to invent stuff to save them".

​@@georgehill3087 i mean most people dont intend to hit them

​@@georgehill3087that's the point of engineering, making things and keeping people safe, teachers and parents aren't doing their job.

@@georgehill3087 Well, that's basically what happens when you can't be a functional adult in your country without having to own and actively use a car, can't go grocery shopping (in a realistic timetable), can't conmute, can't visit places between some kilometers apart, heck, you can't even go to the mart without owning a car, of course there's people who shouldn't be driving, but the design of the cities forces them to.

Insurance companies hate paying to fix cars

But they're not telling this to your next of kin......so there's that.

@@georgesgranger6362 and shops hate working on destroyed cars that are not being paid out the ass for, honestly that's the biggest thing I think, like having a new car with a warranty, you'll be the first one in and the last one out because every other customer is paying, you're not

@@zanechristiansen honestly, fact. We work with Insurance and warranty cars and let me tell you. Some cars people want you to fix for half the estimate as if your life style isnt worth a damn

@@georgesgranger6362 exactly I saw a video somewhere basically saying that, in the end it seems worth it to just "total" it and put a down payment on something else, unfortunately

Looking at all the barriers, I dont think a motorcyclist would do well hitting any of them

@@ValentineC137 I would much rather hit a concrete barrier at a low angle than cables. At a high angle you're fucked either way.

@@lucaprinselaar Yea I think my odds of Evel Knieveling up the side of a concrete barrier are better than my odds of coming out in one piece with a cable barrier. I was in an accident and hit a car that was making an illegal left in front of me once while I was going like 85kmph and came out with no broken bones so not really much difference between that and hitting concrete really.

When a motorcyclists hits a cable barrier whatever side the ambulance is determines which bits get picked up first, cable barriers may be cheap but they are very dangerous to motorcyclists.

I’ve never seen them in Europe, so I think they might not be as good as concrete or guard rails.

Stop driving on the wrong side of the road!!

@@gsc01972 no u

@@tocopowerz3842 "this one is a violation"

@@tocopowerz3842 lol great comeback

Yo where's the relevants u.k still has guardrails ya lorry driving lorry sounds like a crap I'm taking a lorry

Thanks! I just realized hip hop explainer channels were a thing. Awesome stuff!

@@Lam First time coming to this amazing channel and is already so interested-!! Also very informative-!!

what if i wanna watch dramatic music, and CGI

I don’t think this is true. I believe education shows on cable television should appeal to a wider audience who maybe are not as scientifically inclined than people who who would watch a 15:00 minute RU-vid video about guard rails.

Action movies not realistic? It JUST CAN'T BE!!

bruh haha

Just like a car's gas tank doesn't explode when struck with a bullet. Or a lot of bullets. Or at all. Practically never. Like you can't break down an outside door with your shoulder or a kick. About the only thing realistic about action movies is how often people shooting at one another MISS. I used to get frustrated with how many bullets were wasted in action scenes (I still do). Then I learned that four New York City police officers had fired 41 bullets at the innocent and unarmed migrant Amadou Diallo in 1999, striking him just SEVEN times! This is why I choose a shotgun for home defense. Preferably one with at least a 24-round capacity. Accuracy Not Required.

@@terrifictomm I agree with all your points, except the door one. You can kick down a door, just not with one swift kick, it takes multiple strong kicks

@@Calebnelson24 Perhaps. It depends on the the quality of the door. Seriously though. What's with emptying your handgun at hiding suspects in five seconds when they aren't even showing themselves? At least they don't throw their empty gun away anymore, like the used to in 50s and 60s westerns. That didn't make sense to me as a seven year old.

😂

True tho

Best way to avoid an accident is avoid the accident... So your dad had it right....

@@kramnull8962 No such thing as an accident. They are all negligence on the part of someone.

@@MAGAMAN I never believe absolutes like that

But still the usa has the most dangerous roads of all western countries..!

@@jacks3395 when trying to determine the most "dangerous roads" of countries there must be a lot of factors, not just guard rails and crash barriers. Number of vehicles, the weight of average vehicles, the expertise of drivers, age of drivers, the healthiness of drivers, length of roads, and location of roads (roads that go across mountainsides are more dangerous than highways due to the height and geographical factors), safety regulations, etc.

@@Marshark50 Wisconsin for example has a ton of drunk drivers because we're a generally drunk state.

@@jacks3395 Some say stroads play a role

As an Ironworker working on barrier rail on the interstate for miles at a time. A lot of work goes into keeping people safer on the road. It takes over 2 days just to put in the rebar to get a 150 ft stretch that traffic blows past in 1.2 seconds.Then it has to be formed and poured and stripped and polished… construction takes forever..

I know that magpie from a mile away

i did a thing make a rocket powered road legal car and make it drive into a concrete barrier at 350mph

oh god...

you should make a vid of making your own(more effective) crash barriers

it's the magpie

Thanks a bunch! To produce this video took a ton of research, building new skills, the belief I could do it plus an amazing community of people who gave me incredibly great feedback to get it to this point. It was so terrible and it took painful revision after revision to get it to this point. Even now I recognize there's so much more I could do but I just had to put it out to the world and see what the reaction was.

@@Lam Know that your work is much appreciated. Thanks!

If everyone learned to accelerated reverse bhop everywhere rather than using cars it'd lead to much safer roads...

DeSinc just wants to know which crumple zone would be best when he slams into it from a reverse accelerated bhop.

Since its your intro and thus a chance to learn -- I REALLY wanted to read the deaths per (something) per year but could not make it out. Deaths per million people, so 25,000 deaths in 1920? Or deaths per million cars? The new MASH guardrails image had type that was worse. Finally (I'm going to stop complaining after this one and just watch) the next was "...this compares two studies ..." which was ENTIRELY illegible. Why bother? Why frustrate us? One of my petty persistent complaint with YT is that the text is often too small to read ... unless I lean forward and peer, or pull the screen closer. I'm not even counting the number of times I've tried enlarging the screen. I tried googling: type script size per screen size but I didn't understand the results. Maybe you will. If you must use small print maybe you should read it aloud as well. "This chart show ..." Thanks for a good video. Oh. Recently a woman was subject to a PIT maneuver and her car rolled over. www.khou.com/article/news/nation-world/pregnant-woman-car-flipped-pit-maneuver-arkansas/91-0f48c495-f124-44bb-af4e-437014f5a97f The police officer who had his lights on was trying to pull her over for speeding. She slowed and put her hazards lights on, looking for a safe place to pull over. He wasn't happy and used a PIT. The road was under construction and had barriers on both sides, I think they were what you call "F" shapes. The officer thought she should have stopped anyhow. Maybe there should be signs up saying "No room for shoulder stop." to make it clear to everyone. Now she's suing the officer and the force. Oh, and Arkansas police killed 3 people this year so far using PIT.

I thought Jersey's were concrete and metal was a guard rail

Right? Very cool engineering! Now we should put those wise minds to work discovering better ways to get energy without hurting the earth. And ways of being more efficient. Doing more with less and also reusing and not wasting things. 🌿👍✅

I dont think it sounds callous at all, I think the people pretending their is an infinite resource available when there isnt are the callous ones, they happily sacrifice lives through ignorance of their own choosing. Being willing to stand up and say no when you know it will cost more lives to say yes is a brave act.

I wonder what would happen if we applied these same values to military spending, Medicare or education.

@@abiku2923 the world would probably be way more advanced tech wise. "The future is now old man"😂

There is a saying. Like it or not you can't save everyone. That's just the world we live in. Accept it and move on. PS: dont even think about "I refuse to accept that!!!" Bullshit. This isn't an anime show.

Neanderthal Tom Cave Beast Sociopathic Parasite - cut the military budget in half and using that money you could get ALL of the roads, in the US, covered in concrete barriers in 2 years. that's not a exaggeration either. people don't understand just how WASTEFUL our budget is and that in fact money isn't really a ISSUE. that's just the federal government, local government isn't much better. all kinds of wasteful spending going on. really the issue isn't money, it's who lobbies the government more that is the issue and who ends up getting public funds.

Its kinda common sense lmao

yeah, that's pretty much the golden standard for media

Wassup check mark

Oh hey @dankwheelie whatcha doing up in heuhhh

Legend

Hi

@@justinsniffen9491 heuhh??

Their job is to contain the car on the road.

@ピーター anime sucks

@@o.v4069 ???

@@o.v4069 your mum doesn't love you?

@@o.v4069 what?

Thanks for the warning that this quality is rare. I was nearly about to subscribe.

@@agepatterson he means by rare, that is not very abundant on this platform (or any other platform for that matter) - if it was a joke don't r/woosh me i am currently using 10% of my brain after exams :p

Weh ada si Abang disini😂

Where?

@@werkhaye fuck reddit just don’t even mention it, the joke is so dead and it was never funny. if anyone r/WOOSHES u it doesn’t matter as it’s just childish, they are a waste of air and bytes on the internet.

What kind of RU-vid name is that. Sounds super insecure

I respect you for making that your username. Very bold of you.

Get me an internship, im a civil engineering student

lng name, why not just take: common a'hole ?

All he needs to do, is to make more videos like this.

Thank you

Ikr

Yeah I watched 2 minutes of this and immediately subbed

Thanks! I hope so too. Great job with your channel, I love learning about new categories of RU-vid. Keep up the great work yourself!

And also low cars, especially convertables

In Europe they call cable barriers meat grinders for that reason. Great for cars. Killers for bikers.

He even mentioned the cost lol. Civilians are not gonna buy those things.

@@fynkozari9271 Civilians are not the only people that have to worry about cost, transportation departments do not have unlimited funding. Cheaper barriers means more currently unprotected roads can receive some protection.

Just dont drive a motorcycle. Lol. If motorcyclists cared about safety, they wouldnt be riding motorcycles. Just look at the stats. The stats for motorcycle accidents really makes me question their street legality. You literally just asking to die driving one of those things. And those guard rails ain't gonna do shite when the rider gets propelled off their bike and slams their head into the ground at 70mph.

Did it help?

any updates?

​@@shokodoll there's been 16 more fatalities since then

@@Elross_ 200 more

Crazy driving is not a capital offense

but why do things right in school?

@@nicktw2386 lol you're talking to the wrong person, I enjoyed school. But I can appreciate what you're getting at. Some teachers are better than others for sure. Cheers :)

Thanks Ben!

I literally have no idea who you are but i agree

ok

Haha, thanks, I chuckled at the thought. It's good information so I hope you do well

By any chance can you share that essay here I’m curious to see it

I can attest to that. One of my coworkers at work lost both of his legs from those cable barriers last year from a motorcycle accident at around 40 mi/h.

@@MBG141 It will also not be a pleasant experience if you are on a Convertible, Casey Putsch goes really in depth on it on a video, and tells the story about some kid who got decapitated on a corvette, really fucking sad

Vulnerable road users will always be ... vulnerable, whether it's wire, concrete, or whatever.

Yeah I was thinking, if the cable breaks the energy in that would be such an unbelievably powerful whip. Think I read something about a guy on the deck of an aircraft carrier losing a leg or two to broken cables they use to stop jets.

@@rockyfalldownstairs When a cable guide rail breaks, the wire whips away from the car that broke the wire. If cable guide rail is installed in the correct location (e.g. open median of rural roads) there is not likely to be anyone around to get hit by the broken wire.

I can't imagine what the injury would look like.

@@ps2bndled probably something like a watermelon wrapped in plastic what’s been slammed on the ground all gruesome like

@@ps2bndled you would become nearly headless nick from Harry potter

I like ya cut G

@@culture4519 oh

Thanks Jared! I just found out about your channel, and It seems like interesting content. Definitely will check it out!

Man, lots of Chanel’s commenting ain’t it

I did too. I like the cordian cushion thing

So many verified channels commenting. Sus