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@SmokyBuns
@SmokyBuns 29 дней назад
1.. Single.. thing to add(selfishly). I love it when the bottom of firebox door is flush to the bottom of the firebox. Meaning you can easily brush/shovel all of your ash out without an annoying lip in the way.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
It’s a pretty nice touch.
@Redzbbq21
@Redzbbq21 29 дней назад
That’s my one complaint with my Goldees Pit! I would’ve loved to just brush the ash out without that damn lip in the way lol
@CoolFrijolez
@CoolFrijolez 29 дней назад
You should consider the Blackstone griddle scoop for the round fireboxes with lips it scoops 99% of the ash.
@SmokyBuns
@SmokyBuns 29 дней назад
@@CoolFrijolez oh no, my smokers perfect the way it is it doesn’t have that lip. I was just simply saying when you’re smoking meat on other peoples smokers that do have that lip lol
@Redzbbq21
@Redzbbq21 29 дней назад
I just looked it up, looks like it could work well!
@anthonycroff7030
@anthonycroff7030 29 дней назад
Bar A recently was in a video where they cold smoked the briskets overnight using just 8 splits (bundle fire) on an insulated 1000 gallon offset with the damper and firebox choked down. It went from 7 PM to 3 AM with no replenishment. Then they built a traditional fire the next day and finished the briskets off. An absolute dream. I did the same thing on my non-insulated 1k gallon, and I had to re-make the bundle fire every 2.5 hours overnight. Best briskets I've made so far. Now I'm wanting an insulated for wood cost savings for my business.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Yup! I’ve seen it. La barbecue was the first place I heard do that back in 2016. It’s great, but I know most ppl can’t do that at home.
@brisketwizard8004
@brisketwizard8004 29 дней назад
@@knoxavebbq In my 50 years of smoking/grilling I have burned out more cheap pits than most people have owned ( I'm 73 ). Worked my way up to a major brand with a square fie box. Got tired of struggling to maintain even temps/babying the fire. Sold it in 2020 and got a 250 Moberg with fully insulated firebox. I can maintain temps, front to back, within 3° with ease. And can use the entire cooking surface, even close to the firebox. Whether low temp or high, it's the easiest pit to run that I've ever had. So, I'm definitely in the fully insulated firebox camp. To each their own ! Good info for anyone considering which pit to buy.
@roctakon
@roctakon 27 дней назад
Some part of that has to be trying to save on labor. It works but it's also about not having to play a pit person to be there and or be there yourself. Smart TBH.
@LeviathanPits
@LeviathanPits 29 дней назад
Team give me as much insulation as humanly possible 🤣 Its cold/raining 80% of the time here in the UK so on a larger pit, having insulation is great to keep wood usage down. Your point about tiny firebox doors is also spot on! We like big ol' torpedo chute style doors so that you can get your splits positioned exactly as you want them without running the risk of burning your arms. The larger firebox opening also allows for adding slide-in grates to the firebox for searing/wood fired pizza.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Haha. I definitely understand that. Can’t do those things well without an insulated box
@tpack670
@tpack670 29 дней назад
You left Texas as soon as it got hot Joe. Hit 96 degrees at my house today. Gonna be a long summer. You knowledge about smokers is awesome. Keep`em coming.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
That was part of the plan. 😏
@bud1971
@bud1971 29 дней назад
Dang, only 87 in Houston today.
@jerrypredmore8793
@jerrypredmore8793 29 дней назад
Keep up the great work totally enjoy all our documentaries. Learned a bunch.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Appreciate it. Thanks for watching
@AlaskaBrisketCo
@AlaskaBrisketCo 29 дней назад
When your wood is $1200 a cord you definitely insulate your firebox. Plus being able to cook at -20°f is pretty cool too. 🤘
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Yup! Lkje I said, both are great and these modifications exist for reasons, but someone who’s cooking Texas probably doesn’t need it
@joey8567
@joey8567 25 дней назад
I use stainless as it keeps heat 10x longer. 3/8 welded , no screws, or wood pieces, steel wheels on home model, adjustable doors instead of vents. I personally like 2 boxes on my 12 footer. Don't Q until a good nice coals. Clean wood is so important!
@jdubb0113
@jdubb0113 22 дня назад
Where TF are you at?...$1,200 a cord is flat out robbery😂... I'm in NC & my wood guy delivers me a chord of hardwood, red oak/ white oak, Fruit woods, Pecan you name it for no more then $300 chord lol
@AlaskaBrisketCo
@AlaskaBrisketCo 22 дня назад
@@jdubb0113 I am in Alaska. If I want hardwood from the states, it has to be kiln dried and then shipped up here which is crazy expensive. But I am the only one around using only southern hardwoods, southern meaning south of Alaska.
@jdubb0113
@jdubb0113 22 дня назад
@@AlaskaBrisketCo Wow... That is crazy, But I understand it though...
@aaronhunt4486
@aaronhunt4486 29 дней назад
I built a 320 gallon pit. I went with a traditional round firebox. It’s two quarter inch steel walls separated by an air gap. I feel like it works well for insulation but without being overly efficient for holding heat.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
👍
@bud1971
@bud1971 29 дней назад
You are doing good work bro. Your info is always on point.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
I try my best to give you guys the best info
@natedavalos1590
@natedavalos1590 29 дней назад
👍🏻 big thumbs up here! great ideas Joe. I’m in Dallas and these are great points. I tried smoking in Colorado and it’s not the same, obviously. Keep these videos coming brother. I’m jealous of you cooking with Evan and Bradley, but glad you shared!
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
👍 thanks for watching
@caseybbq
@caseybbq Месяц назад
I am a fan of the semi-insulated. I have the 500 gallon version of your smoker, and so far I've been very happy with fire management on it.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq Месяц назад
Nice. 500s are great pits
@scottrobinson4062
@scottrobinson4062 29 дней назад
Great vid, i have a semi insulated fire box on a 94 gallon smoker(not millscale) i find wood spilt size has a lot to do with temp and fire management too
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
For sure, but I’ve stopped cutting down my splits years ago. I got sick of it. Haha. I just learned how to manage my fires better.
@FierBarca1899
@FierBarca1899 27 дней назад
Thank you for this.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 27 дней назад
Thanks for watching!
@user-gj4nj7ih2d
@user-gj4nj7ih2d 29 дней назад
I always learn a alot watching your videos. I would like to know your thoughts on using fans on fireboxes to control temperature.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Appreciate it! Fans??? Nah… learn to control the fire with your fire management. If you’re gonna reply on fans might well use a pellet smoker. I’m not about that kind of cooking.
@misinformationwithrandy
@misinformationwithrandy 29 дней назад
Air gap ftw! I lived in Denver with my air gapped firebox and it was great because of all the reasons you mentioned.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Glad what I said actually makes sense. Haha
@baba_yaga02
@baba_yaga02 22 дня назад
Great video man. I've been on the fence of insulating my Old Country Pecos with fire bricks and you have helped make me decide on the not doing that. Thanks man!!!!!!
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 22 дня назад
Glad to help! But I would try it during winter when it’s cold out. Since you can remove them easily
@kdranchaz3240
@kdranchaz3240 29 дней назад
Great job on this topic!
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Thanks! Appreciate you watching.
@NS-yt1vy
@NS-yt1vy 29 дней назад
I've seen you in Chud videos and I know you are a reputable source of bbq/smoking information. Thank you for sharing your brain knowledge with us mere mortals.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Appreciate you watching!
@Avasbarbecue
@Avasbarbecue 29 дней назад
Greetings from San Antonio. Great bbq content love the deep dive. I run a 250 from a local builder with the square fire box but has a round interior, insulated. Love the thing. Keep up the great work. Be well. 🤙
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
👍 nice! I’m sure it cooks great
@whiteoakcraftbbq
@whiteoakcraftbbq Месяц назад
Great video. After some years of 500 offset now I Def prefer non insulated. This last 6 months I've learned so many tricks and tips that can't all be done on an insualated
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq Месяц назад
Agreed
@SteveRix420
@SteveRix420 29 дней назад
Great info, as always!
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Thanks for watching. Share with your friends!
@davidfuller581
@davidfuller581 29 дней назад
I have firebrick lining the bottom of the firebox on my Old Country Brazos, I consider that kind of essential. Limits log size slightly but that's a pretty small pit anyway so I don't need a ton of fire.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
I used to do the same on the first smoker I bought. Gets the job done.
@AndrewLeeMovies
@AndrewLeeMovies 29 дней назад
My square firebox has a heavy duty half inch grate to keep the logs off the box floor. I think that’s helped keep the bottom logs burning. I have to move ash to the sides towards the end of a long cook sometimes to keep better airflow.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
I’m not a fan of the grate. I feel like it gets in the way and takes up too much space.
@stephengolba5752
@stephengolba5752 29 дней назад
Good video and good information. I built mine from two air compressor tanks. 80 gallon c.c. and 75 gallon cut in half for f.c. Mine is semi insulated I guess as I put fire bricks on the bottom of the fire chamber cuz of the 3/16 metal. It adds about 10 minutes to how long the temp stays before i need to add more wood. Thanks.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
👍
@whiteoakcraftbbq
@whiteoakcraftbbq Месяц назад
I would love to see a video expanding on this and show and talk about the heat deflectors on diff smokers
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq Месяц назад
Ehh… not much to talk about
@juanhermosillo2030
@juanhermosillo2030 19 дней назад
Blessed to be a Bison Offset Smoker Owner with an Insulated Fire Box.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 19 дней назад
Heard nothing but good things about bisons
@chriscrist911
@chriscrist911 29 дней назад
Hey Joe… great info as always. Love watching your vids and seeing you interact with all the BBQ guys. One day you should think about incorporating Brad singing the, “Jo Yim” song into one of your videos. Soo funny! You can’t get it out of your brain. Keep up the great work sir. See ya
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Haha. I’ll talk to Brad about it.
@user-bf5fh3ty4t
@user-bf5fh3ty4t 28 дней назад
Love your content man. Was wondering how often you feed logs on your primitives?
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 28 дней назад
Probably every 30-45 mins
@glennevitt5250
@glennevitt5250 20 дней назад
Thanks Joe for the Information 😎💯🍖
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 19 дней назад
😁👍
@user-oh7ff2gu3r
@user-oh7ff2gu3r 28 дней назад
I have only cooked on a fully insulated firebox and made the decision because I Live in the Boston area and thought it would be better for the colder months. It works great I would like to try a semi to see the difference but I love my 250 gallon pit.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 28 дней назад
Sweet! Nothing wrong with an insulated firebox. Most ppl prefer them.
@J.C.Clements
@J.C.Clements 29 дней назад
Team fully insulated. Mainly because it is what I learned on. The learning curve was interesting but I have it down to a science now as far as how big of a coal bed and when to add a split and even what size splits to use which is the biggest factor. No issues with smokiness or temp spikes on my Moberg. Pretty much just running post oak through her.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Definitely get it. I luckily was able to learn on both. Both work!
@chungs23
@chungs23 27 дней назад
Great video! How do you know when opening the door more will lead to heat loss vs. increased heat from increased airflow and a bigger fire? Are there certain variables you take into account? (e.g. greenness of wood, size of coal bed, ambient temperature, insulation, etc.)
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 27 дней назад
Watch your thermometer as you open and close your door. You’re trying to find the balance between how much air is getting pulled in and how much is coming out, even as the smoker is drawing air.
@jasonhuerta9385
@jasonhuerta9385 29 дней назад
Great vid. I thought you were going to talk about the cowboy firebox option. Since you don't have it on your current pit I probably know your answer, but just wondering if you like fire pits with the door on it that makes it like a "regular" grill.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
I don’t like the grill option. It just makes a mess in the firebox, but I know alot of ppl like it.
@billbryant1288
@billbryant1288 Месяц назад
Good stuff!
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq Месяц назад
Appreciate you watching!
@billbryant1288
@billbryant1288 29 дней назад
I just thought of one more thing you might have commented on. Ease of ash removal. I love how easy it is to remove ash from my Workhorse since there isn’t a lip. I guess I’m lazy, or maybe just spoiled. Either way, now that i’ve had a firebox for a while without a bottom lip at the door I don’t think I would have it any other way.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
👍
@dennisg1251
@dennisg1251 29 дней назад
I have a square fire box with a heavy duty fire basket about 2” off the bottom. It works well
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Nice. Im not a fan of the basket, but I know a lot of ppl do enjoy it
@rhec_junior_9122
@rhec_junior_9122 Месяц назад
I've had my workhorse 1975 for a month or si now and love everything about it. especially the oversized fire box. I wanna say it's like 27in long
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq Месяц назад
They do a good job. Door is a bit on the heavier side though.
@rhec_junior_9122
@rhec_junior_9122 29 дней назад
@@knoxavebbq def a 2 hand Door for sure
@justinrabidoux
@justinrabidoux 29 дней назад
@@knoxavebbqI’ve owned a 1975 for a couple years. And my only issue with it is the door. It’s a beast.
@jameshughes8393
@jameshughes8393 23 дня назад
@knoxavebbq can you let us know how the high temp paint is holding up on the firebox now that you’ve got plenty of cooks in? If it starts to flake or peel off, does Primitive provide guidance on future touch ups?
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 23 дня назад
It’s still hold up. I’m not sure what they’ll provide. They had told me it would start to peel and to let them know if it does, but I haven’t had to say anything yet.
@BenFeldman-kz7gt
@BenFeldman-kz7gt 29 дней назад
Joe, Glad you made it back to Chicago! Very informative video! So Jirby of Goldee’s was very critical of the Franklin Pit fire box door since Franklin’s name is carved out so you see it lit up in the flames. He says that is ridiculous since you can never completely shut the door. However, Franklin apparently wanted it to be as simple as possible, so he doesn’t want the door to completely shut out the air along with no damper. So does the fire door just make things confusing at first for the novice or should its proper use be learned from the start? Keep up you great work!👍
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
I’ve never cooked on it so I can’t say. If someone spends that much time on something I’d be inclined to try it first before criticizing it.
@robertburnett1970
@robertburnett1970 24 дня назад
Do you like running a grate in the bottom of your firebox to keep the fire off the very bottom?
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 24 дня назад
No. I hate it.
@roctakon
@roctakon 27 дней назад
I don't like fighting with the Moberg trying to keep smoke running during a long cook, but boy is the top of that big box good for wrapping beef ribs. (I did a stint at Terry Blacks)
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 27 дней назад
im personally not a fan of mobergs, but i will admit, they have gotten better over the years.
@josecorrea6795
@josecorrea6795 Месяц назад
Lucky for mine when i built mine square on the outside 1/4" and 3/8" round on the inside fully insulated
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq Месяц назад
Nice! I’m sure it cooks beautifully.
@josecorrea6795
@josecorrea6795 Месяц назад
@knoxavebbq yes overkill here in northern California keep up the good work I'm rooting for you joe
@residentevilracing
@residentevilracing 29 дней назад
I have a 250 gal with a square box and I figured out u have to have a Grate in there to actually keep the fire going. No airflow with it sitting on the bottom
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Yea. Not a fan. My older smoker even though it was a round firebox, came with a grate. I tossed it out after 2 cooks.
@alekmorse7987
@alekmorse7987 27 дней назад
I built my own smoker for my frist smoker and my box has a Airgap insulated top that works as a wood warmer. I only have a door for air flow and I wish I had made it bigger to help with cleaning and adding wood the air flow is very Good but it does not go all the way to the bottom and that sucks for about everything else on a fire box. It would be awesome to see a pit master like you slef cook on my home offset
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 27 дней назад
Sounds nice! Haha. Idk if I’ll be able to do that for you.
@genna544
@genna544 27 дней назад
How about a grate on a round bottom firebox, which essentially creates a flat bottom. This is my setup on my Yoder Loaded Wichita. Should I ditch the grate?
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 27 дней назад
i absolutely hate that thing. that was the first things i threw out.
@socalducky
@socalducky 10 дней назад
Great Video. I'm starting to hear people are insulating smoke stacks, Idea is it helps keep the exhaust air hot and pull efficiency.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 10 дней назад
It helps, but the height is more important than the thickness of the metal in my opinion
@socalducky
@socalducky 10 дней назад
@@knoxavebbq Do you have a video that explains offset smoker metal thickness and smoke stack height in relationship to size of the smoker?
@gregory2709
@gregory2709 9 дней назад
How do you manage ash buildup on longer cooks? It's by far my biggest issue with offset cooking. I have no problems on 5-6 hour cooks like ribs, but my brisket cook got very difficult around the 8 hour mark with ash snuffing out the fire.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 9 дней назад
i would keep an ash bucket next to the smoker and scoop some out when you need to. it's usually around that time that you might need to get rid of some.
@Chadzilla333
@Chadzilla333 29 дней назад
Living in the desert in Arizona, I don't need an insulated firebox. However, since they are much more fuel efficient, and considering the growing cost of fuel (aka wood) since pretty much everything but Mesquite needs to be shipped here, I am thinking an insulated firebox might be advantageous in the long run.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Always something to consider
@BBQROCKSTAR178
@BBQROCKSTAR178 26 дней назад
My firebox is non-insulated but 1/2” thick plate steel. I can cook in the rain and wind if needed
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 26 дней назад
👍 sounds like my other smoker
@QBIGORGOHOME
@QBIGORGOHOME 29 дней назад
Just received my 250 gallon smoker I’m hoping the 1 inch of insulation isn’t an issue or make it too efficient.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Nope. You’ll be fine.
@QBIGORGOHOME
@QBIGORGOHOME 29 дней назад
@@knoxavebbqI’ve tried messaging you on Instagram and Fb is this the best way to get in contact with you Joe?
@SuperPfeif
@SuperPfeif 28 дней назад
Awesome
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 28 дней назад
👍
@michaelduncan2759
@michaelduncan2759 27 дней назад
Hey Joe, just wanted to kind of explain the 2 inch air gap it has to do with conduction since there is an air gap there there’s no conduction between the two metal surfaces, and also air is a good insulator because the firebox gets hot the air in between gets warm And since it’s trapped between the two pieces of metal, there’s an natural insulation barrier.?
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 27 дней назад
👍 thank you!
@eddiechapa1
@eddiechapa1 22 дня назад
Here's my question about insulated fire boxes. Does having an insulated fire box allow you to not use as much wood since the insulation is keeping the heat from escaping through the metal?
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 22 дня назад
Yes it does, but I feel like for a backyard size smoker there’s really no need for it. The size is too small to need the extra insulation in my opinion.
@eddiechapa1
@eddiechapa1 22 дня назад
Your friend JY prefers to coat the outside of his backyard smoker with Pam and not Linseed oil. What’s your take on which oil is better in preserving the metal?
@jepprey4953
@jepprey4953 29 дней назад
I live in VA near an Academy Sports, thoughts on Brazos vs G2 insulated smoker?
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Haven’t cooked on either of them. Haha. I wouldn’t be able to give you a fair assessment. Sorry!
@jepprey4953
@jepprey4953 29 дней назад
@@knoxavebbq hehe no problem, thanks for the reply and thanks for the video!
@MattFoote
@MattFoote 28 дней назад
I'm just getting into smoking so not ready to invest a large amount of money on a smoker...yet. In fact, my amazing wife bought me a smoker for Father's Day a few years ago. It's an Oklahoma Joe, so not amazing, but not super cheap and light either. I did start using a mod to insulate my firebox by lining the firebox with masonry bricks. My main purpose for this was because it's been very difficult to smoke consistently at temps lower than 250. I like it so far, but it definitely changes how temps are managed. I also like it because if I want to, I can just take them out and run the smoker normally. my 2 cents
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 28 дней назад
Sweet! I’ve been there. Do what works best for you.
@CarnivoreKipp
@CarnivoreKipp 24 дня назад
Ide take my Shirley Fabrication with a square firebox any day.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 24 дня назад
👍
@Isovapor
@Isovapor 27 дней назад
Klose pits says that 1/2” firebox is equal to a fully insulated firebox. Your thoughts?
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 27 дней назад
Can’t say for sure since I’ve never cooked on a klose pit.
@mikearchibeque7220
@mikearchibeque7220 Месяц назад
Team semi insulated. I literally (check profile pic) have the same pit as you. My opinion once you get bigger than a 250 insulated is fine because you’re gonna have to build a bigger fire anyway. On a 250 and insulated would be hard to keep the temperatures low.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq Месяц назад
Agreed
@brianportnoy5795
@brianportnoy5795 29 дней назад
When you smoke on your Brazos, do you close the vents on the firebox door and leave the door open?
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
I might crack it open, but most of the time I’m just using the door
@brianportnoy5795
@brianportnoy5795 29 дней назад
@@knoxavebbq do you use brazos often? And when you do use it, does it render brisket fat well?
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
@@brianportnoy5795 it's not a brazos. it's a yoder kingman. and yes it does, but i dont use it anymore since i got my new smoker
@user-wr3qo3jz7x
@user-wr3qo3jz7x 10 дней назад
Im building only flat. If Im going build one that looks round. The inside is BOXED! I love welding!
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 10 дней назад
Cool. Do what works best for you!
@stevelawson104
@stevelawson104 Месяц назад
I have a grate for wood...should I just throw it away and just use the bottom of the firebox?
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq Месяц назад
I’ve talked about it in a video a few years ago. My older smoker came with it. I chucked that thing after about a week of trying to use it. It just takes up space in the firebox in my opinion
@stevelawson104
@stevelawson104 29 дней назад
@@knoxavebbq thanks!
@mannyr8795
@mannyr8795 25 дней назад
Not an expert but I’ve seen other insulated firebox proponents say that insulation helps with fire management as you have to add less logs per time but if you need more smoke all you do is choke up the fire a bit to get smokier. Still in the fence because I do like that effociency
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 25 дней назад
You are correct. Once I get my fire going, I just personally don’t like chocking off the fire just to get more smoke. And again, my biggest reason is because it stays too hot during the summer time, which to me is when I want the most control. Both work great and create good product.
@woodsiethewestie6263
@woodsiethewestie6263 28 дней назад
I’m non insulated heavy wall firebox Here in NZ it doesn’t get that cold
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 28 дней назад
👍
@Wvubrad
@Wvubrad Месяц назад
Joe is right on every count. I have a 120 gallon reverse flow, square insulated firebox. I do find at times it’s overly efficient. I love my pit, but it’s certainly not perfect. I get tons of complements on my bbq so it don’t think it’s the end of the world. One massive negative of a square firebox joe doesn’t mention, rain water retention on the flat top of the firebox itself. I don’t have the ability to put a roof over my smoker. That pooling water will lead to lots of surface rust in no time that must be constantly removed/sanded and oiled if you want your pit to last.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq Месяц назад
Yea. Haven’t thought about that. That sucks. Haha
@Wvubrad
@Wvubrad 29 дней назад
@@knoxavebbq Haha. Yeah, something only a square owner would know. Stick with round if you can everyone. Lol.
@AndrewLeeMovies
@AndrewLeeMovies 29 дней назад
The rain pooling on my square firebox has been an issue lately. I need to do a cook and oil the surface again.
@srbushidomaster
@srbushidomaster 28 дней назад
Hmm I never thought about opening the firebox door to let heat out. I thought more air would come in and cause more heat? I just cook on an Oklahoma Joe though.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 28 дней назад
Yes but you’re letting more heat out, than air you’re letting in. So when you crack it open you’ll get more heat with air feeding the fire.
@SethKingofthenerds
@SethKingofthenerds 27 дней назад
The one aspect that I haven't seen every much discussion is how the heat and smoke leave the firebox. Mad Scientist talked about a scoop on the 1000 gal he gave away last year and the M&M guys have some crazy square exit with vertical slits on it.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 26 дней назад
Probably can’t speak to it as much as the actual builders
@brentjohnson2315
@brentjohnson2315 29 дней назад
I need that Knox Ave BBQ/Primitive Pits 250g promo code 😂😂
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Sorry. No promo code. Haha.
@907jl
@907jl 29 дней назад
I guess I'd call mine semi-insulated. I built the firebox so the bottom is covered in.a layer of firebrick, and then there's a course of bricks on edge around sides and back. It's seldom truly hot here( Alaska ), and our local "hardwoods" are birch and alder, which don't really crank out the BTU's like real hardwood.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Getting some extra insulation with the bricks then I would say is necessary where you live. Haha.
@907jl
@907jl 29 дней назад
@@knoxavebbq It also helps to start with a base of big pieces of lump charcoal, and then add a little now and then, to maintain a coal bed.
@jareddyer2900
@jareddyer2900 Месяц назад
I have a 24” x7’ 1/2 thick smoker what size fire box for it
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq Месяц назад
Not sure what your question is
@jareddyer2900
@jareddyer2900 29 дней назад
@@knoxavebbq I got a pipe and it does not have a fire box on it what size would you recommend
@davek3726
@davek3726 29 дней назад
I'm in California and insulated fire boxes are a joke for this state. What are your thoughts on firebox length
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
That I’m not too sure about. I leave that up to pit builders.
@davek3726
@davek3726 29 дней назад
@@knoxavebbq thanks for replying back. I'm currently building my third offset and the first with a round firebox that's rather lengthy in comparison to the cook chamber. I enjoyed and learned a lot from your channel and feel the same about the fire box door I like the biggest door I can get/have
@rabmccudden683
@rabmccudden683 23 дня назад
Where do people get the firewood from. I’m in Ireland and I’ve no idea where to get it. Need some ideas. TIA 😇
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 23 дня назад
oh boy. idk where you would get your wood from. haha. it doesn't have to be a specific wood. I would just cook with what's available to you, as long as it's safe to cook with! thanks for watching.
@rabmccudden683
@rabmccudden683 23 дня назад
@@knoxavebbq thanks m8
@jordanbabcock9349
@jordanbabcock9349 29 дней назад
My door is like..40% hardware cloth without a way to close it off, and the door is conpletely detached.... Gonna smoke briskets and ribs for graduation(work) anyway hahahahaha!!
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Lol! You’ll make it work. I believe in you
@MrThespian4
@MrThespian4 Месяц назад
I have a "non" insulated firebox, but it's 3/8" thick so it acts like an insulated firebox.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq Месяц назад
That’s fine. My previous pit was like that. Cooked great.
@MrThespian4
@MrThespian4 29 дней назад
@@knoxavebbq it got a workout today, did my first home made brats, and a turkey breast. Have home made bacon curing in the fridge too.
@Keasbeysknight
@Keasbeysknight 29 дней назад
Definitely didnt understand the need of having a big fire box for an small pit. Lots of cooks later and im sorta learning where to keep my fire at.
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
It always takes practices.
@robertburnett1970
@robertburnett1970 24 дня назад
You forgot to mention Korean newspapers.😂
@williamjohnson7340
@williamjohnson7340 29 дней назад
Honestly idk what team I'm on there hahaha I'm just team offset!!! I only have a little oklahoma joe 😢
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
No worries. I’ve cooked a smoker like that for a good 8 years before I got a smoker that actually cooked properly workout a bunch of modifications. Just have fun cooking.
@tyy7760
@tyy7760 29 дней назад
I’m team non insulated. More specific, open fire pit. At most WSM. Ohhhhhhh!
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
👍
@rsoria12
@rsoria12 29 дней назад
Team air gap
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
👍
@dennyo7798
@dennyo7798 25 дней назад
I don't care what you are cooking on, Learn How To Manage What You Have!
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 25 дней назад
👍 agreed
@sonoma98jk
@sonoma98jk 23 дня назад
The material I got to build my smoker 30" dia. X 1/2" wall I don't think Ill need to insulate my fire box, I got the material for free so I can't complain
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 23 дня назад
Wow! What a deal! Haha
@stevelawson104
@stevelawson104 Месяц назад
Offset...
@StacyVictorino-gn7le
@StacyVictorino-gn7le 29 дней назад
👎
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
😬👍
@StacyVictorino-gn7le
@StacyVictorino-gn7le 29 дней назад
👎
@knoxavebbq
@knoxavebbq 29 дней назад
Why am I getting a second thumbs down? Haha
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