Salt Lake City, Utah, USA - 2002 Winter Games, Figure Skating, Men's Short Program - Evgeny Plushenko of Russia had an uncharacteristic fall on the quadruple toe-loop and placed 4th after this skate.
Но боже мой, как он катал, танцевал после падения, как в последний раз!.. А в конце ещё и улыбался, понимая, что, возможно, проигрывает эту Олимпиаду...
Well, many or most would agree...there's only one "Plushenko"!! Seriously! If you've seen all his performances over the years...I think you'd agree! Smile...
I would have loved to see both him and Yagudin skate perfectly and back-to-back, to see what the judges would do. It would have been really hard to separate them. I feel that Yagudin's program was more put together and his spins were a little more solid. It really would have been a call between Yagudin's more refined style and Plushy's bombastic showmanship.
disagree. his skating and his style are kind of garbage. later in his career, he became slightly more stylistically interesting, but he relied heavily on gimmicks and flashy costuming particularly here. his music edits aren't even very good.
No matter what you think. He has millions of fans in the whole world. He is the most famous, most well-known figure skater. But that is interesting Plushenko was the favorite of some really great ballet dancers including May Plisetskaya, Nikolai Tsiskaridze and Roberto Bolle also praised him..
Plushenko is is brillant and a powerhouse like no other. People leaving negative comments just came here to throw hate around. People get so jealous of talent, I guess. Ignore the dorks that are leaving bad comments. Plushenko is the BEST!
I love Plushenko and his amazing talent! I wish I spoke Russian so I could watch some of the Russian documentaries on him that do not have English subtitles. We love Plushenko in U.S.! All our love!
Лучше Евгения Плющенко нет и не будет фигуриста!!! Он неповторим!!!! У Ягудина программы соостоят из набора элементов и пересматривать их не хочется.А катание Жени хочется смотреть и смотреть.Его катание вызывает столько эмоций!!!!! Он на легок, грациозен, музыкален и артистичен!!! А сколько вдохновения в его катании!!! Какая энергетика!!!! Восхищаюсь и очень люблю этого трудолюбивого ,преданного своему любимому делу Женечку!!! Его обожает весь мир!!! Здоровья тебе, Женечка, , счастья и удачи!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
Why?He is the most decorated champion,he absolutely knows who is he.He is a legend! He worked hard for his results in his entire life,he was faithful to Mishin and his home country. He is the most popular skater in Eu and Russia too, many Japanese FS fans go crazy for him.He became a rich and successful man because of his talent. His life is the FS! But he said something what is didn't like the Americans or Americans media? But he thought he was right! He is a true man! And the greatest athlete!
Guy can skate and spin like a lyth mongoose. Anyone who denies that is in denial. Doesn't matter if you don't like his style or personality. The guy can skate. Period.
Равных ему, конечно, нет, а вот лучше был - Алексей Ягудин. Максим Траньков на Олимпиаде в Сочи после проката тоже поплакал. Напряжение на таких соревнованиях колоссальное (что понятно и козе), особенно, когда человек столько лет идёт к титулу. И все они настоящие мужчины и прекрасные спортсмены ❤ Слабые волей люди до таких вершин не доходят
@@Светлана-э7е2г мне нравились всегда оба этих фигуриста, и тогда в 2002, когда мне было 12, я болела за них обоих, но за Ягудина чуточку больше😁 (он казался мне более душевным), но Евгений - великий фигурист, ведь не каждый поедет на Олимпиаду в 31 да с такими травмами.
Even if he did jump correct, he had no chance of beating Yagudin in this short program. Yagudin did equal job with the jumps (supposing that Plushenko succeded in the first), and definitely had a better footwork. The music for this was lousy. I'm ma fan of MJ I haven't heard a worse compilation. He suited the music for his dance not the vica-versa. All in all Yagudin was simply better.
He did not only had that chance, he would surely have done it but for the missed quad. And everyone knows it: Yagudin won only because Plushenko fell down. Full stop. That is why Alexey cried when he saw his points after the FS. Even after the fall he was not sure Plushenko wouldn't win.
I'm speaking about the short program. Not the long program. Yagudin's performance was superior, in every single way. Given that Plushenko didn't miss the quad, both would have completed techniques of equal difficulty (the jumps), Plushenko jumps higher so he'd score on that one. But Yagudin's overall performance and the, I don't know the term in english (runway?) it's "дорожка" in Russian was way better and harder. So no. Plushenko is an amazing skater but in 2002 Yagudin owned him period. And in 2014 that Japanese skater owned him period.
Even so. In the long program Yagudin skated _after_ Plushenko who had once again failed at 4-3-2 combination. After Yagudin succeeded in the same combination he decided he would not risk it and changed his program did not perform two quads making it an easy win for him. Naturally afterwards he was afraid because two quads is huge. Then again given that Plushenko succeeded at 4-3-2 Yagudin would have gave his all to the performance and since I give it to Plushenko the 4-3-2 giving the missed two quads to Yagudin would again make it impossible for Plushenko to win.
***** I recommend you to rewatch Plushenko's LP. He did 4-3-3. The landing was not so clean, and nevertheless the program was WAY more difficult than that of Yagudin's (3 axel half loop 3 flip, etc). To say nothing of choreo which Yagudin never had, he always worked with his face only, not with the body. Btw the famous sequence of steps in his SP is very easy to do, it's impressive only for the audience, not for professionals.
I understand what you are saying, and I agree he should be very proud, and he is def. a legend!! I love his skating for sure. As a figure skating fan for over 20 years, I just found his lack of sportsmanship appalling during the 2010 Olympics. And trust me, I'm no Evan fan, and know that Plushenko is a MUCH better skater overall. He screwed up when he whined about his defeat and insulted the winner. Legends should also have class. It's just not cool, and nationality has nothing to do with it.
Veo esta coreografía una y otra vez a pesar de la caída, no me transmite nada.pareciera que eligió la música para conquistar al público y ni eso. El carácter, personalidad, forma particular de patinaje de yagudin le da mil vueltas .
What's happened? The new system worked, but many skater, Fs expert, coach criticized. Plushenko come back, not won, although he was the best. He criticized the system, many experts, skaters supported him, was the big scandal. Many Fs fans wrote directly to the ISU, because of Plu, and the quad. The ISU changed the rules! Plu won the argument, and the male FS also won!!! In this season already were more quads! Plushenko is the most important, and popular skater of Fs history.
I'd disagree. Dick Button for me is most important figure skater. First person to do double axel and first person to do triple, he left a greater mark on figure skating.
I agree about the program and music cuts; for me it's never been a favorite program. But Plush was skating to demonstrate the elements and with the exception of the fall on the quad, he bright that home. I love the footwork sequences in this one.
I like the program cause for once it forces Plushenko to actually feel the music, but what I don't care for is how the music was edited, whoever did the editing needs to be shot cause it was really poorly done. I've never cared for him, but this program is one of the few I actually liked.
***** It felt disjointed to me, the music had no real flow really. Granted Evgeni was never really known for his artistry, but the editing of the music didn't help him.
Megan Woodard what are you talking about???? Plushenko was the youngest male skater ever who received perfect 6.0s score. He was only 16. y.o. In his career he received 75 6.0s most of them was artistry points. He received them in international competition. Check it please before you write incorrect things.
Just because he had the accolades that doesn't mean that I half to like him, and I only commented on how I didn't care for the way his music was edited not this program or how he skated it.
@@ZoltanneVarga-jn9oy He has serious score inflation. he was good, and for a while the best, however still received inflation. I still 100% support the fact he was better than Evan Lysenko tho.
Pluchenko skates faster, spins faster and jumps higher. He also is more flamboyant. Yagudin is more graceful and puts more feeling into his performance.
And for those who want to see Plushy and Yagudin skate perfectly to know what judges will do - watch Worlds 2001 - both of them were perfect, but Plushenko won. That sums everything up.
Yagudin was not perfect during the 2001 World Championships. In fact, Aleksei was injured during those championships; yet, he decided to compete anyway!!
ShaefDawg Yagudin wasn't injured. He lied that, because he lost to Plushenko everywhere. He needed sport psychologist because of Plushy. ;) Yagudin was/ is envy of Plushenko's results, popularity, fame...
lala630312 Yagudin was injured. It's fact! I like Plushenko more, but the truth must be the truth. Nevertheless, Plushenko was best that season in any way -)).
Людмила Самсаева really? I just don't like Yagudin's fans diminish Plushenko all the time. We Plushenko fans admired Yagudin to Sochi. Despit the fact we knew Yagudin lied when he said to the western media he lost on Rus Nats, because Plushenko was the favorite of Rus Fed. But we know ( there are videos onYT) Plushy clearly won '99, '00 and '01. Maybe in the '98 Rus Nat was a little bit doubtful because they both showed same level performances. Yagudin lived in US and the North-Am media made a communist evil from Plushy and a little bit rude and unjust coach from Mishin. And what Yagudin did after Sochi that is really disgusting!!!!!!!!!!! He attacked Plushy so hard everywhere! Not to mention his tweets after Vovan's joke..He knew what is the truth but he wrote that hysterical tweets.SHAME!!!! He lied about Plushy and Yana he wanted to harm them in that difficult time. So he is a weak man in many FS fans eyes. Plus he wanted to move to US he is not rooting for the Russians in 2002, and look at now his Twitter full of political messages, which attacked the US policy ...
lala630312 In 2001 Yag's injure war real. But he and his coach made such a theatre of it, that newspapers wrote more about his sufferings than about Plushy's victory. It's true that RusSkateFed preferred Plushenko, because Yagudin went to USA. That's why Yag's fans are so angry, - there dear Yagudin was never loved by RusSkateFed. Yag became Oly champion without any support of RusSkateFed. But he had psychologist and support in USA. I do not know exactly, what kind of person Yagudin is, but intuitively I do not like him. I do not like men, who often cry. And I don't like his skating. I see that it' very good, but I haven't passion for it, don't feel it. Unfortunately after Sochi not only Yagudin "poured dirt" on Plushenko. It's so easy to kick a wounded lion! I'm ashamed of Russians who did it.
I like plushenko but I agree 1000% with you. Yagudin was my favourite up till Hanyu came along (S.Lambiel was my second favourite). Plushenko's main strength was consistency and his career span - unfortunately Yagudin only had a 6 year career.
And Plushy's fall would have been much more costly under this system than it was in 2002. He was 1/2 a rotation short on that quad, so it would have been downgraded to a triple and he would have lost a lot of execution points. Plus his spins were weaker then than they are now. It would have been much more difficult to make up that deficit in the long under the new system, I suspect.
He wasn't 1/2 rotation short, it would have just been a < call. He also would have added a Triple Toe to the end of the Lutz in the modern way of doing things, he already should have back then, but it wasn't the custom to change things up like that in the SP. Alexander Abt had an underrotated Lutz and a worse Axel and PCS, so very possibly Plushenko would still be placed 4th in the SP.
sigh..I became nervous when I read your comment.. How Plushenko will live without your respect? ;) But after I calmed down.. he will think to his million fans in the whole world :DDDD
creo que todo paso como tenia que pasar si plushenko le hubiese ganado a yagudin creo que se hubiese estancado en cambio esa plata le ayudo a trabajar mas su estilo y laurearse en oro tal como paso en 2006
Isn’t it unfair that he only gets one deduction for falling but not for leaving out the combo? It should be .7 off the base mark not just .4. He shouldn’t have even been in contention for the top two spots after this short
The rules back then identify that a fall on the first jump of a jump combination (and the 2nd jump is omitted) is deemed only a fall. You don't deduct it as both a fall and omission. It's one or the other. Omissions re jump combinations are when the element is not even attempted, or if the jumps don't meet the requirement, which is one jump being at least a triple.
@@3Axel1996 The base mark for the program should be lowered when the combination isn't there, and clearly was for every skater who made mistakes like this and wasn't a big name. The top ranked skaters just got held up most of the time.
Ягудин ушел из спорта в ведущие, вы о чем? Как раз таки начиная с юниорского ЧМ в Австралии ,лидировал Ягудин, но потом разница сокращалась, Плющенко быстро его нагнал и перегнал.А в Олимпийских играх все признают,что катание Плющенко было в 2001 сложнее технически, но ставили оценки тому, кто откатал чище. Плющенко вообще никогда не боролся ни с кем,у него на том же Чемпионате России куча медалей, его любит народ. Наверное, потому что прославлял и дальше нашу страну и в 2010 и в 2014, это ценно в такое ужасное время.По артистизму Плющенко уникальный.Я бы не стала разницу между ними проводить.
@BestFiction00 Yes, but not at his peak. Ever since his boot/skate problems and having withdrawn from the 2005 season, he never regained the ability he had when he peaked in 2002 and 2003...
Ничего страшного, что упал, в фк такие ошибки часто происходили, тем более, что потом Женя ОИ выиграл. Надо уже забыть эту относительную неприятность проигрыша и наладить отношения с Лешей. Женя тогда ведь не вылетел за пределы тройки, а серебряным призером стал, что тоже неплохо. Многие талантливые фигуристы из-за травм и серебра ОИ не выигрывали за всю свою карьеру.
I care not for Plushenko anytime (even though he is a jumping machine) because he does not feel the music his coreography sucks, and his arms just flail about with sharp edges wildly...That's why I have a problem with him. Alexei always skates with heart, feels the music, and his footwork is always superior to Plushenko. We all have our favorites but I will never forget the beauty of Yaugudin's sp and lp in Salt Lake ....history made. 1st man to win 4- 6.0's in the modern era of figure skating...Tatiana is just brilliant
If only American commentators could SHUT UP during the program and only comment at the end of the skate. Scott Hamilton and his partner are so disrespectful in this regard
They're called commentators because they're SUPPOSED to comment on the programs in real time, not before or after. It's like play-by-play in any other sport. If you don't like the commentary, mute the video, but don't complain about it when you know there is going to be commentary ahead of time and you know how Scott Hamilton delivers his commentary (which I happen to love and find very informative). I wish I had a dollar for every person who makes this absurd complaint.
Great skater whose programs are marred by trashy choreography and poorly conceived music editing. There's no denying his talent and athletic ability but his taste disqualifies him.
You are so boring. I read your many comments. I don't understand why do you watch Plushenko, if you are a hater of him? If you don't like him shut up, and go to your favorites videos and die of boredom.!!!! He is the bets of the best, he is a FS genius. Ps.: You aren't overrated piano player because you are nobody in your job. /watch?v=SEJXkfMYTX4 this is perfection.
He could do things that yagudin couldn't and he attacked his routine with more speed and flamboyance. He could spin faster and was clearly more agile and fluid than yagudin as well. Yagudin has his strong points as well, but you have to acknowledge ability even if you don't like the skater personally.
Heisenberg ㄕㄕ Faut pas rêver petit.... YAGUDIN c'est l' exceptionnel dans l'excellence.... sur le plan émotionnel, technique, artistique, il est inégalable....Plush est excellent mais un ton en -dessous, il manque de grâce, de magie, il est lourd...et on ne vibre pas.... désolée l'or était , on peut plus mérité, par A YAGUDIN
Именно поэтому по сей день олимпийские программы Ягудина, считаются ЭТАЛОНОМ мужского фигурного катания. По мне ,так они оба генальные фигуристы,поднявшие мужское фигурное катание на высочайший уровень. А главное что эти парни настоящие герои нашей страны.
@@НатальяЗеленская-п3л деи́ствителтно они оба прекрасные фигуристы. На мои́ взгляд Плющенко больше старался играть на публику. Что конечно хорошо приветствовалось. А Ягудин мог на льду лучше раскрыть тему музыки. Он как-то жил на льду презентируя тему. Его зима, и цирк по-моему высочайшее исполнение. Их обоих ставлю на первое место. Из-за шоу на льду публика любила Плющенко больше.
