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Evidence found that man was not the first being to master fire 

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A momentous discovery in South Africa has the potential to turn our understanding of human history on its head. CBS News correspondent Debora Patta speaks with paleoanthologist Lee Berger, who has found evidence that a pre-human ancestor named Homo naledi may was the first being to master fire for light, warmth and cooking.
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@joelallgaier2626
@joelallgaier2626 Год назад
Our hubris is amazing, from dismissing our predecessors abilities, to think that we're the only ones. It's been a long journey to get here, we are standing on the shoulders of our ancestors.
@gm9984
@gm9984 Год назад
I love reading and watching about the origins of fascinating things like fire, mirrors, religions, languages, medical/science advancements, etc. Standing on the shoulders of our ancestors indeed
@gwiz6278
@gwiz6278 Год назад
It's called science and when we find new evidence, we alter our thesis.
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth Год назад
It's not about hubris it's about verified evidence.
@youropionmattersnot
@youropionmattersnot Год назад
Agreed. Funny how man always tries to "modern humanize" how ancient civilizations did things. It's even projected upon the extraterrestrial. As if the pyramids were built with slaves, hand chisels, block and tackle because we found no evidence of cranes and dump trucks because that's what we would use.....
@mrmagoo.3678
@mrmagoo.3678 Год назад
religions have caused us great harm in that respect.
@ashleydaniel3215
@ashleydaniel3215 Год назад
"All this time we've been looking down, instead of looking up" Sums up the human condition accurately
@GravInducedSleepTrac
@GravInducedSleepTrac Год назад
And the movie!(don't look up "
@freedomofspeech361
@freedomofspeech361 28 дней назад
Most people are legends in their own mind.
@stevenepstein6454
@stevenepstein6454 24 дня назад
Yep. Except, it's not a black ceiling, keep looking.
@Lion_Hamza
@Lion_Hamza 23 дня назад
​@@stevenepstein6454Lol i did not see it either. Are we blind?
@SimonBoccanegra69
@SimonBoccanegra69 23 дня назад
I know it sounded deep in your mind when you wrote it, but it's really *not.*
@carguy3028
@carguy3028 Год назад
One of the theories I had read about was that the human brain grew because of cooked foods like meat. This would mean it wasn’t us who discovered fire but an ancestor who we inherited it from. I don’t see how it’s such a big leap.
@carguy3028
@carguy3028 Год назад
@@inktensive1584 it doesn’t mean they were more advanced, it means they were less advanced and we developed because of it. Fire allowed a more primitive species to spawn us. One day we may give rise to a more advanced species, something smarter than us. Our current technology may be what allows them to come into being or our future technology. We are just a link in the evolutionary chain and we are not done evolving.
@DrachenGothik666
@DrachenGothik666 Год назад
@@inktensive1584 No, that means the *LESS-advanced* species discovered fire and passed the skill on and the species continued to evolve, developing a larger brain with a better diet from cooked food. Advancements come *first,* slowly and piecemeal by some individual or group figuring something out, or by an animal mutating and surviving, and civilizations or species build on those advancements as they develop.
@CARLOSBARCELOIV
@CARLOSBARCELOIV Месяц назад
Terence Mckenna mushrooms
@atrumphasmatis6719
@atrumphasmatis6719 29 дней назад
@@MrGreen-fi5sgpretty bold statement considering there’s no proof of that and that there is proof of evolution
@MrGreen-fi5sg
@MrGreen-fi5sg 29 дней назад
@@atrumphasmatis6719 What proof is there exactly? Us existence should be the only evidence we need of God's existence.
@troyd9212
@troyd9212 Год назад
It's so aggravating!! An astounding story that adds more depth to the human condition and the news anchor just says "wow he lost 50 pounds" then when the other anchor actually contributes to the conversation, he gets shut down by the first with "you using dem big words again". Idiocracy is an underrated documentary.
@ciara7172
@ciara7172 Год назад
That guy was so annoying.
@mobiusstrip107
@mobiusstrip107 27 дней назад
I was thinking of when Ms M mentioned that it’s always been “men” who have been searching and the blond interviewer shakes her head saying “white men, white men”. This rhetoric has become the norm which is wrong. Can you imagine the uproar if it was the other way around. Respect should go both ways.
@birdsofafeather8368
@birdsofafeather8368 23 дня назад
Yeah that annoyed me too. I was so impressed with him and his pronunciation and overall level of knowledge about the subject and they kind of shut him down.
@Likelyfairy
@Likelyfairy 19 дней назад
The kind of behavior you would expect to end in a classroom 🤦🏽‍♀️
@rari2943
@rari2943 9 часов назад
⁠@@mobiusstrip107I mean it’s just the truth… Stop being offended of history and acknowledge that it was what it waa
@georgevanaken925
@georgevanaken925 Год назад
3:27 “It’s because we think we have some ownership of it.” Truer words…
@jgp1294
@jgp1294 28 дней назад
….never spoken
@FelixBibian
@FelixBibian 28 дней назад
Saw a man speak those words🤷‍♂️
@jgp1294
@jgp1294 28 дней назад
@@FelixBibian the saying is “truer words never spoken”….i was just finishing the quote ✌️
@joelcox504
@joelcox504 23 дня назад
Well anybody else willing to climb down there can claim it.
@HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat
@HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat 21 день назад
😮😮
@My_Alchemical_Romance
@My_Alchemical_Romance Год назад
This is huge. Glad this has been found.
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth Год назад
This isn't a new hypothesis. I suggest checking out Gutsick Gibbons channel
@HomeGrowin
@HomeGrowin Год назад
Why?
@The1sKa
@The1sKa Год назад
This is bs they just want us to think our life’s have no value that we are meaningless
@P2Feener305
@P2Feener305 26 дней назад
So what do us humans do with this HUGE bit of information ? Revise a National Geographic episode ?
@markmendoza1935
@markmendoza1935 25 дней назад
​@@P2Feener305why are you even watching this video? Your sarcasm shows this is of little interest to you
@sleepy1205
@sleepy1205 Год назад
This just proves the saying " if you want something done right, you do it yourself".
@billh2294
@billh2294 Год назад
I though this was old news. My understanding was that our guts are too small for the size of our bodies and that fire was the development which allowed for our ancestors to abandon the trees for safety. If this is true then it was not humans who learned to harness fire but the harnessing of fire which created humans. It is our non-human ancestors who deserve the credit for harnessing fire.
@MrGreen-fi5sg
@MrGreen-fi5sg 25 дней назад
@@billh2294 Man y'all will believe in anything.
@Excremental_Discharge
@Excremental_Discharge 25 дней назад
You obviously never heard the theory that early ancestors of humans more than likely accelerated their brain development by eating psychedelic mushrooms in extremely large quantities
@OldBoldBiker
@OldBoldBiker 25 дней назад
@@MrGreen-fi5sg Thank dog we don't believe in a made up invisible sky god.
@noname-yb5jt
@noname-yb5jt 24 дня назад
We're in a simulation anyway, nothing matters. ​@MrGreen-fi5sg
@MrGreen-fi5sg
@MrGreen-fi5sg 24 дня назад
@@noname-yb5jt That was just a movie sur..... It wasn't even that good. Just an egdy cgi mess.
@DonaldDucksRevenge
@DonaldDucksRevenge Год назад
Congratulations to Lee Berger, Keneiloe Molopyane and their whole team. Great commitment, great discoveries!
@intermodus2180
@intermodus2180 Год назад
1. Could have been scorch marks from anywhere. 2. Pre-Humans are still Human. 3. Wild Speculation does not a Discovery Make. 4. Have a Magical Day.🦊🚬
@demonking-pk3by
@demonking-pk3by Год назад
@@intermodus2180 are you also someone who believes out of bilions of planets earth is the only one that was capable of life?
@intermodus2180
@intermodus2180 Год назад
@@demonking-pk3by a little off topic, but you asked Soo nicely. I'm a Fan of Star Trek...so I assume, the possibilities are endless. I'm of the mind, that it's old news, and the reason why it's not openly accepted, is because, "we were made in his image", but if another sentient lifeform had a civilization on another planet... religion, here on E-yarth might suddenly feel less special and fabricated. And on this planet, "ppl" are barely able to control themselves, when they think they're *IN* his sight. That's my take on the likelihood of extra-Terrestrial life. I hope that satisfied your curiosity.🦊🚬
@TuneyDarko
@TuneyDarko Год назад
@@intermodus2180 human is mostly used towards homosapien and that’s why we have the same human
@TuneyDarko
@TuneyDarko Год назад
@@demonking-pk3by there’s definitely life BUT the chances of intelligent life is pretty close to impossible since life takes 100,000s years to form and to evolve to land it can take another few 100,000 years, for intelligent life to form it would take a extremely large amount of time and would require them to gain a consciousness, even if they do gain such a thing it would not mean it would throw them into a Stone Age. Humans are completely accidental and simply lucky to exist is what I’m saying.
@daily_rhetoric
@daily_rhetoric Год назад
When I was a food inspector in the military I would inspect everything at eye level, the corners and things all around me. I had to be taught to look up. It’s just something that we don’t think to do at times.
@lanceschirmer5583
@lanceschirmer5583 Год назад
Did you do MREs as well? I was in supply and we always had a "vet" check for expired (unusable) supply. Unfortunately I never really asked who or what determined if they were no longer consumable. (BTW vet was quoted because that's what we called them not really sure actual title)
@rolandthethompsongunner64
@rolandthethompsongunner64 Год назад
Especially when you’re trying not to fall on your face in a dark creepy cave.😂
@G3RM3X617
@G3RM3X617 Год назад
If it's our ancestors then how is it a different species. Just cause they didnt have technology yet doesnt mean it's another species. 🤨
@MyPalJimbo
@MyPalJimbo Год назад
What are some of the things you discovered by looking up as a military food inspector?
@rtqii
@rtqii Год назад
@@MyPalJimbo Leaks and grease accumulations mostly... Both have to be addressed.
@williamozier918
@williamozier918 Год назад
I love how every "new" discovery is actually over 10 years old.
@damikey18
@damikey18 Год назад
This one is new though
@lordsiomai
@lordsiomai Год назад
Well from what I know, scientific discoveries take a long time of going through verification, peer reviews, and whatnot so that we are totally sure that the discoveries are legit before we share it with the world.
@Shay45
@Shay45 Год назад
@@damikey18 This cave was found in 2013 though
@nickvelez6197
@nickvelez6197 Год назад
@@Shay45 recent discovery within the cave
@dormantmenace
@dormantmenace 27 дней назад
Yup Cradle of life was proven wrong. If you try to research it. Lucy or omo I bones are always described as "some of the oldest remains," not the oldest at around 230,000 years old Florisbad site, South Africa: Dated to around 259,000 years ago Jebel Irhoud site, Morocco: Dated to around 315,000 years ago 'Ubeidiya, Israel: A 1.5 million-year-old bone from a child who was between 6 and 12 years old when he died . Yet Google oldest remains, and they continue to try and sell you the cradle of life.
@xenotbbbeats7209
@xenotbbbeats7209 Год назад
That man hit the nail on the head regarding human hubris.
@jeffskinner1226
@jeffskinner1226 Год назад
I think it's a rather short step for a species that's already making stone/edge tools to then advance to use of fire: if they're constantly smacking rocks together it's only a matter of time until they get the materials right and stumble across the fact that sparks plus tinder equals fire.
@peterevans8194
@peterevans8194 Год назад
Was this species making flint tools though?
@ayoungethan
@ayoungethan Год назад
Australian aborigines learned firestick farming from watching predatory raptors flush prey out of the brush by carrying and strategically placing burning sticks.
@JaronLindow
@JaronLindow Год назад
And then fire plus meat equals tasty.
@JonnoPlays
@JonnoPlays Год назад
@@peterevans8194 no stone tools have been found or associated with this species of pre human according to Google search.
@UXtatic
@UXtatic Год назад
Bingo.
@keyfiender799
@keyfiender799 Год назад
"Just because we've been by it 100 times, doesn't mean we've SEEN it."
@AshGreen359
@AshGreen359 24 дня назад
Strange, someone once asked me when did humans first use fire. A quick Google search told me we were using fire since before we were human. That was years ago.
@peterevans8194
@peterevans8194 Год назад
Just to add another comment, so called "fire birds" are a documented phenomenon. Black Kites in Australia are known to carry burning sticks and twigs to start fires on new patches of grass land...They do this this as they hunt around the perimeter of small bushfire...Other bird species have been seen to do similar...
@revolvermaster4939
@revolvermaster4939 Год назад
👍it only takes a birdbrain to master fire!
@dmo848
@dmo848 28 дней назад
That's wild. I never heard of that before. I tell ya. Learn something new everyday
@Sika6061
@Sika6061 25 дней назад
That's amazing. Birds are so smart!
@gorganhorn6872
@gorganhorn6872 24 дня назад
@@dmo848omg you got played 🤣
@DanMorgan-bh5fv
@DanMorgan-bh5fv 23 дня назад
@@Sika6061 Considering they were the only survivors when the dino's were wiped out their brains have been constantly learning for millions of years if not longer.
@singalongwrudy8690
@singalongwrudy8690 Год назад
Dragons had fire in Britain WAYYYY before blokes
@wasis001
@wasis001 Год назад
Dragon donot exist
@singalongwrudy8690
@singalongwrudy8690 Год назад
@@wasis001 komodo ?
@thastayapongsak4422
@thastayapongsak4422 Год назад
@@singalongwrudy8690 they aren't dragons. They are just named after the mythical creature.
@Svensk7119
@Svensk7119 Месяц назад
Reign Of Fire! Loved that film!
@unifiedvision999
@unifiedvision999 Месяц назад
Bloody right!
@BrunetteVignette
@BrunetteVignette Год назад
I'm going to state the obvious and maybe someone has already said it but what makes anyone think that the passageway was that narrow when those pre-humans lived there?
@UFOsirREAL
@UFOsirREAL 26 дней назад
who knows, maybe they just found the vent
@P2Feener305
@P2Feener305 26 дней назад
And what makes you think that it wasn’t? Huh YT archaeologist
@grasuh
@grasuh 24 дня назад
@@P2Feener305at best, it is uncertain.
@AdeleiTeillana
@AdeleiTeillana 24 дня назад
Passageways, like canyons, are usually carved out of rock over time by the flow of water and to a much lesser extent perhaps wind or animals using it as a path. It's unlikely the passage would grow smaller unless there was a cave-in.
@whoishim2998
@whoishim2998 23 дня назад
Possibly all they could manage to dig at the time
@LionElAtonArt
@LionElAtonArt Год назад
This is totally incredible. Their commitment is so commendable.
@yayorandel6048
@yayorandel6048 Год назад
Yes, as in no credible.
@annettepiff9759
@annettepiff9759 Год назад
Nothing short of fascinating! Thanks so much! I'll be sure to share.
@northerniltree
@northerniltree Год назад
The charred beer cans found at the site further our understanding of these early hominids.
@JB-qe2mo
@JB-qe2mo Год назад
🤣🤣🤣 good one. I also think the ends of cigars were quite peculiar as well. Leads me to believe these early hominids partied similar and possibly were legends as well.
@jglaraunique
@jglaraunique 21 день назад
LMFAOOOO 🤣
@jglaraunique
@jglaraunique 21 день назад
@@JB-qe2mo 🤣Legends
@HaviJarl
@HaviJarl 2 дня назад
@@JB-qe2mo Maybe they were top G's?
@D00M3R_MAVS
@D00M3R_MAVS 8 часов назад
if anyone is wondering, you have till about 3:46 before the "message" is inserted.
@krispulz
@krispulz 24 дня назад
Life is all about learning. Great find
@ozarkcaveman6383
@ozarkcaveman6383 Год назад
I have always looked at the ceiling of the shelters and caves to see smoke residue. Hard to figure that out. All fires will smoke the ceiling.
@BrunetteVignette
@BrunetteVignette 22 дня назад
That cave ceiling probably shifted geologically long ago.
@angelocervantes4950
@angelocervantes4950 Год назад
Wow my respects for him to lose 50 pounds to continue his work and to find this discovery
@rajeshgajwelly9035
@rajeshgajwelly9035 15 дней назад
who care? so human made fire earlier. big deal. we indians are intelligent enough to focus on future problem not past.
@Daakunesu
@Daakunesu 6 дней назад
Disregarding the past will lead to repeating history. To disregard it is a mistake. History is still at the end of the day another avenue or research. ​@rajeshgajwelly9035
@rajeshgajwelly9035
@rajeshgajwelly9035 6 дней назад
@@Daakunesu this is why indian is CEO of google, microsoft, IBM, etc. it because we are highly intelligent and focus on future and technalogy
@prankedxd3937
@prankedxd3937 День назад
@@rajeshgajwelly9035i think you are focusing on the wrong things bud
@rajeshgajwelly9035
@rajeshgajwelly9035 День назад
@@prankedxd3937 we mighty indian do not focus on wrong thing
@JohnMacFergus-oz5cp
@JohnMacFergus-oz5cp 3 дня назад
Thanks for your diligence and hard work Paleontology team!
@biloki3079
@biloki3079 Год назад
Brilliant find. It certainly will change how we think about the history of fire.
@spider46531
@spider46531 Год назад
Of course the way down was not through that small crevice. Just think of the way the earth has shifted over the hundreds of thousands of years. That now small cave could have been larger or there was another opening. But they were at least safe from the much larger meat eaters or enemies
@waptek2
@waptek2 Год назад
good assessment
@capactiveresistance314
@capactiveresistance314 Год назад
Right and wrong. Earth does shift but not here around Johannesburg. 2 factors are at play. This whole area is filled with white dolomite. Which does erode rather fast, just google the appearance of sinkholes around gauteng. Now the dissolved rock could be redeposited there making the enterance smaller, but we know for a fact that it wasnt, in fact that cave is mostly made up of quartz. Secondly this area of Earth's surface is one of the oldest we have it has not changed much sinch Australia broke off from Africa. The only earthquakes we get are usually caused by mining the minerals in the crust and there is very little tectonic movement. Plus if you had been to the cave or researched it, you would know that the enterance to the Dinaledi Chamber where all these remains have been found are quite the climb onto shelves way above the average depth of the cave floor.
@Muggashyte
@Muggashyte Год назад
This particular hominid was not as large as we are, and so the cave size is not the issue we, as a larger hominid, find it to be. Come on fire making tools! It’s going to be nerve wracking, to wait and see what if any tools they used for fire making. I for one hope it’s unusual.
@GraveTender333
@GraveTender333 Год назад
And, My chain is getting jiggled. The head of this splunk and the team 10yrs back. Looked, here and the, never up. That is like; walking to a crosswalk with no light. And only looking, One-way... Step off the curb, ouch... No one mention. Getting samples of the blacken, soot on cave ceiling and run test to confirm. What is actually is. Also. How do they know this SOOT, is not from an earlier period? Hmmm with regards
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth Год назад
See Gutsick Gibbons channel for more
@ge2623
@ge2623 Год назад
If we've mastered fire, why do we have fire departments?
@jeaniebird999
@jeaniebird999 26 дней назад
That is us mastering it.
@larrywelch9738
@larrywelch9738 26 дней назад
@@jeaniebird999 Yes. It's a group effort.
@gailhitson7340
@gailhitson7340 25 дней назад
Nobody said we're perfect...
@ge2623
@ge2623 24 дня назад
@@gailhitson7340 Ain't that the truth.
@stevenepstein6454
@stevenepstein6454 24 дня назад
Bc we're not God.
@hoodbivore
@hoodbivore Год назад
Love this and the message
@jesserice233
@jesserice233 Год назад
We've known this since the 1900. This type of stuff is literally in my history books in Middle School
@th0rn3gaming
@th0rn3gaming Год назад
I just had a severe moment of claustrophobia watching this video 🤣
@xbrandi12345x
@xbrandi12345x Год назад
Not me!! Nobody would interrupt my nap in there!
@irishsamurai9008
@irishsamurai9008 Год назад
Worse if your watching under a blanket
@skatetoexplorevideos2477
@skatetoexplorevideos2477 Год назад
It's even more claustrophobic if there's an earthquake and they get stuck or crushed to death.
@naynay3710
@naynay3710 Год назад
No amount of passion to find something could get me to wiggle down into that tunnel! They are all better humans than I.
@pechaa
@pechaa Год назад
I felt sick watching those parts. I am amazed they don’t panic.
@verreal
@verreal Год назад
This confirms what he wanted to find however. Did he bring any samples back for independent analysis?
@spatrk6634
@spatrk6634 Год назад
what do you think?
@gwiz6278
@gwiz6278 Год назад
Obviously. He's a scientist.
@AGDinCA
@AGDinCA Год назад
@Verreal - I completely agree with your sentiment. I mean, his team searches the cave for 10 years and don't find anything, yet on his first trip down there he just _happens_ to confirm his hypothesis? By looking up? Seriously, that idea did not occur to anyone of his team of grad students - for 10 years? I dunno... I'd like some independent verification.
@The1sKa
@The1sKa Год назад
@@AGDinCA it’s all bogus to make us think our life’s have no meaning God is real
@AGDinCA
@AGDinCA Год назад
@@The1sKa No, I'm not saying the scientist's statement is bogus in the least. What I am saying is that if you are going to make bold proclamations, you need to be ready to produce significant proof, including independent verification. I would also say the same to you, sir.
@MrBDezno
@MrBDezno Год назад
Such an interesting topic. TY
@ZoeyZee
@ZoeyZee 10 дней назад
Man this was a year ago?! So glad I found this. So interesting! Thanks for sharing.
@sleepy1205
@sleepy1205 Год назад
I am just amazed by how many different species of humans there are. Has anyone in these comments heard about the new ancient human species found in the Philippines.
@ryanjavierortega8513
@ryanjavierortega8513 Год назад
This is heartening!
@ryancuda45
@ryancuda45 Год назад
yes it amazing they could start a fire in a cave stunning and brave like greta
@prometheus200
@prometheus200 Год назад
We aren’t special as humans, we tend to think so a lot. This is brilliant.
@genetillman2313
@genetillman2313 Год назад
When they find cavemen on the moon I'll believe that humans aren't special 😆
@The1sKa
@The1sKa Год назад
That’s exactly what the agenda is about To make us believe we have no meaning God is real
@shortstarwarsessays1842
@shortstarwarsessays1842 Год назад
@@genetillman2313the Nazis were the first to enter space, so perhaps us being special among earth isn’t a good thing. Especially with how evil the USA and Russia are we are definitely doomed for extinction before we do anything really special.
@prometheus200
@prometheus200 Год назад
@@genetillman2313 😂😂😂
@StompDownJammo
@StompDownJammo Год назад
we are the only known sentient beings out of every animal on earth so yes we are unique. You're not unique don't generalize us.
@brucelee5576
@brucelee5576 Год назад
You can’t rule out the possibility that some humans came in there way later a started those fires.
@MrGreen-fi5sg
@MrGreen-fi5sg 26 дней назад
@@thomandstacieverroad8417 Also the fact how evolution never happened.
@Sika6061
@Sika6061 25 дней назад
Yes you can. Radiometric dating. Fires leave carbon residue (that's the black stuff) that can be dated fairly accurately. If the soot on the walls and ceilings date the same as the bones (also carbon based), you have a clear line of evidence.
@Sika6061
@Sika6061 25 дней назад
@@MrGreen-fi5sg You forgot the /s to denote sarcasm.
@MrGreen-fi5sg
@MrGreen-fi5sg 25 дней назад
@@Sika6061 What?
@28th_St_Air
@28th_St_Air 24 дня назад
@@MrGreen-fi5sg it never happened for you. Explain fossils, or that you have DNA in your mitochondria that isn’t the same as the DNA in the nucleus of your cells.
@richb2229
@richb2229 Год назад
There is a lot of evidence that human ancestors used fire long before this discovery. However it doesn’t reduce the significance of this particular discovery.
@MrGreen-fi5sg
@MrGreen-fi5sg День назад
@@richb2229 exactly.
@jasonlabelle3302
@jasonlabelle3302 Год назад
So let me get this straight, it wasn’t until Lee Berger himself visited the chamber that he was the first to see “smoke stains” and burned bone? We’ve been told for years about his expert crew conducting the work in the chamber over the past ten years - what is he saying about their skills? How would they miss such evidence? Really odd. And how exactly does Berger knows this is soot from burning? Let’s see the peer reviewed work first…
@MrTangent
@MrTangent Год назад
What else would cause soot inside a cave?
@naynay3710
@naynay3710 Год назад
Actually, the lady found the burned bones, not him. Also, not everything needs to be a conspiracy. I don't think it, or he, is saying anything bad about the skills of his crew. He's only saying that looking up is not something that humans usually do. As archeologists, I'm sure they've seen lots of soot many, many times. It sounds like your first instinct is to disbelieve, rather than to accept what looks to be true, till someone else comes in to say it really is true. Perhaps it was in a part of the cave they hadn't inspected before. I guess I'm just more inclined to give someone the benefit of the doubt until, and if, they are proven wrong.
@L_Train
@L_Train Год назад
Another researcher found burnt material at the same time. Of course the guy telling the story is going to tell it the way he did.
@artimmiftari6312
@artimmiftari6312 Год назад
@@naynay3710 ​ ​Humans don’t look up? We are immeasurably the most intelligent creature to ever exist and we aren’t capable of averting our gaze upwards? We are not dogs Nay Nay. If these ground-breaking archaeologists have ‘seen soot many many times’ how did they miss it for the better part of a decade? It’s a valid point of contention. Also, it is not a conspiracy theory to have your work peer reviewed. It is part of the scientific process and an integral element to any candid thesis or guileless scientific work. One more thing, it is not virtuous to give someone the ‘benefit of the doubt’ and just ‘accept what appears to be true’, forgoing due diligence for sake of naïveté. Especially amid the internet age where in lieu of merit and fact, financial gain and prestige are promoted, slighting the truth in the process. Have a nice day!
@fademusic1980
@fademusic1980 Год назад
@@artimmiftari6312 "we are immeasurably the most intelligent creature..." but apparently you aren't with how you are misusing that word
@ConstantGardener-q9q
@ConstantGardener-q9q Год назад
I’m not sure soot on ceilings are conclusive. 1) there is no way to correlated the smoke with the species discovered (the fire could have happened after or before); 2) anyone who has ever created a fire in an unventilated structure knows how ridiculous that would be.
@bradleeedwards
@bradleeedwards Год назад
Exactly. Humans could have explored the cave more recently and started fires. And natural phenomena could have pushed a fire into the cave.
@cybercraft5393
@cybercraft5393 Год назад
I think you can carbon date the soot and bones. The protohumans probably saw greater utility in having the light and warmth in the safety of the cave. The ceiling was quite high in the chamber and if you were burning dry tender, it would not get crazy smokey very quickly. As far as fire being pushed into the cave, I don't think it would go very far as there's nothing to burn. Sure it could be pushed in a bit by wind, but it has nothing flammable to combust for sustained intervals. These are just my thoughts. This is very interesting to me.
@josephmayfield945
@josephmayfield945 Год назад
@@bradleeedwards well if two rando guys on the net think it’s bs; I guess they better retract everything.
@ConstantGardener-q9q
@ConstantGardener-q9q Год назад
@@cybercraft5393 My point is that while both the bones and soot could be carbon dated, they would need to be correlated as occurring roughly within the same timeline, which I don’t believe they’ve done yet. That said, I do think non-human hominids could potentially be capable of fire. I am just not convinced that they would light a fire in a cave. You said the ceiling was high. I thought they were extremely tight space… but maybe I missed something. In any case, it certainly is an interesting prospect :)
@pretzeltime3900
@pretzeltime3900 Год назад
Just completely amazing find!
@robertmedeiros5112
@robertmedeiros5112 25 дней назад
Absolutely amazing and exciting!!
@swat486
@swat486 Год назад
Joe Rogan: “Jamie Pull that up”
@billblackledge2679
@billblackledge2679 27 дней назад
Joe Rogan: “They must have used that narrow passage to escape the huge bears back then.”
@mechanix1228
@mechanix1228 Год назад
Graham Hancock is gonna have a field day with this one.
@c87kim
@c87kim 27 дней назад
There could have been an entire civilization that thrived and died out and ten million years later we’d have no trace of them.
@dcarr571
@dcarr571 18 дней назад
Besides the artifacts of art and tools and bones, but yeah.
@c87kim
@c87kim 18 дней назад
@@dcarr571 nah bro, it could all be under the ocean. Plate tectonics
@scdrescher1
@scdrescher1 23 дня назад
In their defense, looking up when you’re caving isn’t always easy or intuitive. When you’re moving on all fours the helmet tends to get in the way. But that’s absolutely a profound realization that they’d not thought to look up.
@harryseldon362
@harryseldon362 Год назад
This is more than amazing! WOW - man wasn't the first to use fire. We are starting to piece together man's history instead of assumptions.
@P2Feener305
@P2Feener305 26 дней назад
Wow this changes everything…amazing what the future will bring 🤩
@FirstnameLastname-rc8yd
@FirstnameLastname-rc8yd 24 дня назад
Well, there’s actually quite a bit of assumption taking place but it is something…
@janice4146
@janice4146 27 дней назад
Fantastic discovery. There is so much we still don't know about the ancestors.
@kristentindle3075
@kristentindle3075 28 дней назад
Wow! Amazing and congratulations!
@HughsReviews
@HughsReviews Год назад
That guy saw the movie “don’t look up” and had an idea… “ima lose weight and go in there and look up…”
@jaytrump2537
@jaytrump2537 Год назад
Aaaaaaa thank you thank you AMAZING REPORT LONG LIVE CBS MORNINGS
@MrCarrot__
@MrCarrot__ 19 дней назад
I don’t think I’m claustrophobic until I see footage like this
@TheBeefSlayer
@TheBeefSlayer 27 дней назад
Carbon date is going to show the fire was only 100 years old. 😂
@devinbaber4594
@devinbaber4594 23 дня назад
Fr
@DanMorgan-bh5fv
@DanMorgan-bh5fv 23 дня назад
Or ancient African cavemen with torches?
@jeremias-serus
@jeremias-serus 23 дня назад
This discovery happened about a decade ago. It’s all real and it was a fairly important discovery in the field of anthropology.
@MLM68
@MLM68 22 дня назад
I guess you know nothing of this Star cave do you? It’s been inaccessible since like 1 million years ago, dude
@MLM68
@MLM68 22 дня назад
@@TheBeefSlayer so if you wanna make a comment, it’s really important to know the cave you’re speaking about. Which you do not.
@societydwellingifd8080
@societydwellingifd8080 Год назад
*_There's no way I could crawl thru holes in caves like that. If I can't walk upright to get in and out then I'm not doing it. I get really nervous watching stuff like that and sometimes I have to turn it off cuz it gets my anxiety going._*
@ElyasBinYahya
@ElyasBinYahya Год назад
So many archaeologists don’t follow the evidence
@FrankensteinDIYkayak
@FrankensteinDIYkayak 22 дня назад
I can relate to him getting through tight squeezes. Ever see a squeeze box at a caver festival which can be narrowed?
@Darksagan
@Darksagan Год назад
Everything about this was awesome and amazing. This is insanely huge and deserves more views.
@MrGreen-fi5sg
@MrGreen-fi5sg 26 дней назад
@@Darksagan no
@swizzarmygrizz
@swizzarmygrizz Год назад
As someone who was a long troubled relationship with the idea of a “creator,” I have chosen to believe in something greater than me. However, I am always bothered when religions try and use the Bible to contradict or suppress the overwhelming evidence of human evolution, and evolution in general. We’ve taken wild species of animals and morphed them to near unrecognizable forms yet the so called faithful will have you believe that this is not possible? Anything is possible for this hypothetical all powerful being. If they can make us, they can certainly change us, and end us. Instead I choose to marvel at the world before me with the awe of a child of the stars, of something bigger than me, and I embrace things as they are unveiled to me. This mindset has served me such much better than the fear and scorn which so many choose to act in. I am human, and if you’re reading this then so are you. We are everything and nothing at once.
@TOROG13
@TOROG13 Год назад
I want to buy you lunch
@syringaflower1498
@syringaflower1498 Год назад
I couldn't have ever said it better myself 🤩
@MarquisYourBrotha
@MarquisYourBrotha Год назад
but doesn't it say in the Bible, that there where ppl already here when Adam and eve where placed down here? all I see is more evidence that the Bible is true! all praises to TMH
@syringaflower1498
@syringaflower1498 Год назад
@@MarquisYourBrotha TMH? 🤨
@MarquisYourBrotha
@MarquisYourBrotha Год назад
@@syringaflower1498 THE MOST HIGH! The one and only True god Yahweh
@buhingkalbaryo
@buhingkalbaryo Год назад
They said that the first Fire benders were the Dragons.And one of the most powerful forms of Element, Bending.😁
@katfrankie6484
@katfrankie6484 Год назад
Sooooo much to love here ❤❤❤ the story, history and beautiful ending having me laughing ❤ I can feel the love
@michellemevans3123
@michellemevans3123 Год назад
This is a super fantastic finding!!! BRAVO!!!!! I deeply hope it jars all humans. NOT SPECIAL!!!!!!!!!
@ASAPSodie
@ASAPSodie 22 дня назад
As a fellow Anthro nerd Tony’s knowledge of hominids is impressive 👏🏾
@user-jv4ro9yp7u
@user-jv4ro9yp7u 18 дней назад
I mean this is his entire career after all
@dungeonbayshop564
@dungeonbayshop564 Год назад
That only tells me that other humans were down there and made fire before that dude went down there.
@zoso1123
@zoso1123 26 дней назад
Right how can u tell me ur the first human to explore a cave in africa?
@xmo552
@xmo552 26 дней назад
💡
@PamKopp-ot7fd
@PamKopp-ot7fd 25 дней назад
Exactly lol
@davidmurray6176
@davidmurray6176 24 дня назад
Spot on. I've been in caves and the first thing we did was build a fire . Duh!
@MLM68
@MLM68 22 дня назад
You really have not seen this cave have you? It’s the star cave in South Africa. it’s pretty inaccessible. It took professionals to get there dude. It’s not like some open campground.
@hcic8738
@hcic8738 17 дней назад
Absolutely brilliant
@jcee2259
@jcee2259 7 часов назад
I began organized cave exploration in 1964. Starting today I will not ignore high surfaces when underground. I also have to again visit where I thought speleology was completed.
@freaker126
@freaker126 25 дней назад
why isn't this all over the world news? Only found out about it now. this is huge!
@davidmurray6176
@davidmurray6176 24 дня назад
They are hypothesized ideas not fact. I think it's a total croc of chipped beef gravy
@ForgingMyWins
@ForgingMyWins 22 дня назад
​@@davidmurray6176 explain why the evidence presented smells fishy then.
@crafting11111
@crafting11111 21 день назад
Bc the mayority of people in the world is religious, these news mean that evolution is real and that goes against their beliefs, i wonder how they cant just believe that good created the universe itself and thats it.
@user-my6vz6bd3q
@user-my6vz6bd3q 15 дней назад
​@davidmurray6176 something like this is plausible
@MrGreen-fi5sg
@MrGreen-fi5sg День назад
@@freaker126 No.
@wade4747
@wade4747 21 день назад
Us humans are so anthropocentric and stubborn
@dcarr571
@dcarr571 18 дней назад
As opposed to chimps and fish and squirrels, which tend to see the world through a much more balanced, humble lens that considers all species.
@ChozenOne444
@ChozenOne444 24 дня назад
I believe the first person to give/steal or have the power of fire was Prometheus. Don’t quote me on that, but that’s just what I researched online. In Greek mythology, Prometheus is one of the Titans, the supreme trickster, and a god of fire. In common belief, he developed into a master craftsman, and in this connection, he was associated with fire and the creation of mortals. His intellectual side was emphasized by the apparent meaning of his name, Forethinker
@IAmWBeard
@IAmWBeard 24 дня назад
I saw the documentary about that cave. Might be one of the most important finds in history
@micmalawi
@micmalawi Год назад
Its a pity that politics has to come into it all the time now - "white man's narrative"... science is science - you don't have to have a dig at someone's "race" and gender.
@JB-qe2mo
@JB-qe2mo Год назад
@Sean 😂😂😂 good thing at least you know all the answers. Please share your research and in fact rewrite all of history so it's finally true.
@wallstreetc1496
@wallstreetc1496 23 дня назад
Yes
@frankrifa3010
@frankrifa3010 Год назад
4:57 it’s messed up how they make fun of “nerd” or wherever you come up with facts
@vamboroolz1612
@vamboroolz1612 28 дней назад
I watched a documentary a while back about this cave that detailed the weight loss of the anthropologist here. It didnt mention the ability to make fire though. My mind was blown by the ability and desire to have a symbolic procedure for their dead. To make fire and cook is an awesome thought.
@JonnoPlays
@JonnoPlays Год назад
The last 50 years of archeology have been amazing.
@theofficialcybermonkeys1271
Wonder what the next 50 with better technology and climate change will lead too??!!!
@samlightning7280
@samlightning7280 Год назад
We can't have sh**
@Ace01010
@Ace01010 21 день назад
Lmfaoooo 😂
@joseconde9460
@joseconde9460 Год назад
I thought they were gonna say something like chickens were the first to discover fire i was like 🤯
@LeninRajendraSingh
@LeninRajendraSingh 10 часов назад
Lee Berger, thats just an amazing feat , imagining myself in such a scenario is beyond claustrophobic \but would like to try out these kind of expeditions one day.
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384
Been waiting for this news
@stephaniejean2426
@stephaniejean2426 Год назад
Now thats a news story. Superb!
@worstusername22
@worstusername22 Год назад
host was awesome, he was fascinated
@NoPantsBaby
@NoPantsBaby Год назад
Did they date the soot? I mean legit question here, that is 99% certain not a burial site. There is no way that early hominids decided to drag their dead, heavy weightless corpses DOWN a crevice with enough kindling to cremate the body inside the cave. It would be utterly pointless. The site could have been targeted by cave explorers who lit the fires anywhere between now and whenever the creature died and then abandoned. There are maps of this cave and it's at least 3 chambers underground, my bet? A lion made it's home in that cave and we're looking at it's snacks. The fire is from later man who found the cave and explored it looking for minerals.
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn Год назад
So supposedly qualified people are visiting this archaeological site and not seeing obvious signs of fire all over the place, but Lee Berger goes down and sees it immediately? How is this possible? Something is off here.
@Stephen-G
@Stephen-G 22 дня назад
Now we just need to figure out who made ice first
@estebandelaossa
@estebandelaossa Год назад
Amazing. We are just leaves of grass in time!
@happytape307
@happytape307 24 дня назад
Lightning strikes and volcanos entered the chat billions of years ago.
@janicerstone1872
@janicerstone1872 Год назад
Always follow the evidence.
@asahel980
@asahel980 Год назад
and evidence can be manipulated or misinterpreted.
@AranRinzei
@AranRinzei Год назад
Question everything especially mainstream academia
@Jaysonbc1234
@Jaysonbc1234 Год назад
Hunter bidens laptop
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth Год назад
See Gutsick Gibbons channel for more
@ioanevaaiiluga1211
@ioanevaaiiluga1211 Год назад
It’s funny how Netflix came out with ancient apocalypse and now all of sudden the media coming out with this other stuff.
@J3AD
@J3AD Год назад
we might not be special, but we still here, keep up good work
@theoriginalchefboyoboy6025
@theoriginalchefboyoboy6025 Год назад
I would think that besides burnt bones and sooty ceilings they would have found evidence of tools necessary to make or create the fires as real evidence that they were actually fabricating fire in that cave, and those proto humans couldn't have been that neat and tidy to take it with them when they left the cave...
@FirstLast-di5sr
@FirstLast-di5sr Год назад
Since fire can be started by wood + friction I can't assume the evidence is guaranteed to have survived / left behind.
@theoriginalchefboyoboy6025
@theoriginalchefboyoboy6025 Год назад
and flinty rocks...
@zee9709
@zee9709 Год назад
Any wood would've broken down in hundreds thousand years. Only left maybe flint
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth Год назад
See Gutsick Gibbons channel for more
@rtqii
@rtqii Год назад
@@zee9709 Unless it was charred... The wood will rot, but the charred end of a fire stick won't rot.
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384
Which mammals use stone tools? Which birds use fire? Which birds use stone tools?
@waptek2
@waptek2 Год назад
many apes & some other mammals & a few birds use tools look it up
@nothcial
@nothcial Год назад
Ever seen a crow. They are pretty smart. For an animal that is.
@randysmith5435
@randysmith5435 Год назад
There are many species of birds and mammals that make use of both tools and fire. Are you incapable of finding this information or are you being purposefully obtuse?
@bleachsanchoblastk
@bleachsanchoblastk Год назад
While they don't start fires there are actually birds that will pick up burning sticks to flush out small animals in grassy areas. Black kites for example.
@debbralehrman5957
@debbralehrman5957 Месяц назад
Thanks 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@hermanrosario7045
@hermanrosario7045 23 дня назад
he said all this time we were looking down and she said we found charred bones. did it really slip there minds that fire was used to char bones before looking up
@Okie8T9
@Okie8T9 25 дней назад
"Non human ancestors" lmfao 😂😂😂
@VictorSanchez-kx5hb
@VictorSanchez-kx5hb Год назад
Quest for fire!
@HermesSonofZeus
@HermesSonofZeus 24 дня назад
Great story. Thanks for covering. LOVE that bit at the end!
@kaymilborrow
@kaymilborrow 25 дней назад
S/o the legend Debora Patta
@spencerwilson3298
@spencerwilson3298 Год назад
What's the name of the interviewer? She's very good!
@Le_Church
@Le_Church Год назад
No shes not
@rickyray2794
@rickyray2794 15 дней назад
No she's really not.
@jackkeyhoe7072
@jackkeyhoe7072 Год назад
I WONDER HOW LONG I WOULD HAVE TO WATCH THIS UNTIL THEY MADE IT ABOUT GENDER AND COLOUR
@memphispatriot
@memphispatriot Год назад
lmao. same here.
@MrTangent
@MrTangent Год назад
Which was funny given that a white man made the discovery. 😂
@theminiatureconstructionco4556
Got to shoe horn "the message" in somewhere!
@stevemclendsy3911
@stevemclendsy3911 Год назад
It's in Africa so case closed.they were black.
@memphispatriot
@memphispatriot Год назад
@@stevemclendsy3911 What case ?
@Destrate
@Destrate Год назад
Seriously amazing! 🤔😯
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