How Baboons Led Us to a Lost Civilization 

Please say they make the connection via a They Might Be Giants record!!

Well it's nobodies business but the Turks.

Well, good to see we're all on the same page for that! Now if you'll excuse me, I have a song to go listen to...

Even Old New York was once New Amsterdam.

Omg this is actually too funny we must keep the song alive so that it is passed on through oral tradition

Cleopatra lives closer to us than to when the pyramids were built, something like that...

Trippy huh?

"Ugh well at least they're writing it down FOUR THOUSAND FRICKIN YEARS LATER"

They almost certainly wrote it down. ~99.9% of things written down b.c.e. are ash and dust. But even before that 90% of writing was business transactions. They may have written volumes on the wheres and whys of pwnt but the probability that those writing would be among the survived, is very small. Since those are not facts, one would reiterate in the more copious financial documents or long-lived war memorials. Just as you make no mention of chickens when calling for eggs in a cake recipe..Or a map to Normandy on a WW2 Memorial.

@@N3ur0m4nc3r Take it up with hypothetical Thoth.

They wrote it down, but not specifically enough! 😂

To be fair the knowledge was almost literally "written" in DNA and within bones containing strontium signatures.

Same 😂 they can be pretty aggressive…

Sounds even more interesting! 😂

Thailand 2030 spoilers

Yea was like monkey pox, herpes, ebola, marburg, rabies,... 😅

I thought the same lol!

"Do you get to the Punt Kingdom very often? Oh what am I saying, Of course you don't!" - Some Rich Egyptian named something like Nzm

Only after making fun of our pronunciation probably

He is about to hear the call of the dragon ​@@SgtStuka

​@@SgtStuka😂

Only Hyksos trash knows not of Punt.

Bruh

I understand that reference!

Love means never having to say you're sorry. To baboons.

You vote for 🤡👹💩

You elect someone who is friendly to Punt-in

Talking about the cult of IKEA and it's grand temples, it was a world spanning cult with temples in basically every nation on earth. Worshipping the god Allen Key, and something about furniture..

They will look, but get lost

And was there a minotaur in the middle of the maze?

@@crackerjack9320 Yes, his name is Sven and he loves fermented herring

"You must go to IKEA to recover the missing piece of the puzzle. It has a hexagonal hole like this, you see? Unfortunately, today nobody knows where IKEA was. There are conflicting directions that put it on almost any continent, except possibly the grassy plains of Antarctica."

"We're not entirely certain of what the mythical Wall Market was. Written accounts point to a kind of bazaar where one could purchase almost anything. For many communities it was the center of all trade and business. We're not entirely certain either of why the Wall Market failed either. Scholars believe it may have been a large trade dispute with a tribe of Amazons who rose to prominence within the trade routes as well as infringing competition coming from some location known as the Bay of Ei, which has been speculated to exist in ancient Mesopotamia."

Or, where is the mysterious planet "Wally World" located?

🤣🤣🤣

@@glenngriffon8032​​⁠ We cannot rule out that there were religious rites and sacrifices made to the gods of Bay of Ei and the Mart of Walls. There is some dispute that some may have prayed to, and made sacrifices to these gods. There is also an ancient red dot symbol with rings around it, perhaps indicating an island location. There are many completely circular balls found in some locations. There is some evidence that they made sacrifices on these red stone balls.

'..and why were they so obsessed with busting blocks!?'

So Sam... _Where you from?_

​@@DavidFrostbitesmall town called Cambridge, Massachusetts...

I mean you can always ask... You won't get an answer, but asking is certainly within the realm of possibilities

"I cast Speak With Dead."

​@melissametivier4 they make these boards that can help you with that

Why are traites like strangthe fitness selected for Exclusively in male side if those are products of mitochondria there's no logic in the biologic

Chubbyemu?

Hah yes. I remember when my biology teacher tilted his head, a cherry would roll down into his lips via a contraption.

Anthropology isn't a real science. A pseudo-science at best.

At 11:30 did anyone notice the two Egyptians who look like they over-did the squats at the gym? WTH?

sounds like the child that realized a lot of South American city locations were based on the stars, and used that to make a map that found a ton of lost cities. We know next to nothing about the history of America because of arrogant fools that thought they knew all.

@@Xander1Sheridan And hideous greedy violent idiots. Very like most of the "leading 5%" of today. Who invariably manage to be the most ignorant, uninterested, and crass of people, with the highest opinion of themselves

What is the name of the city? I want to learn more

@@zerioxiii cannot remember, but it was on the last day of the hike before reaching Machu Picchu

@@Xander1Sheridan unfortunately that story has been debunked, even though I would have loved for it to be true

Do that on a food blog & you'll probably weird out enough readers that they'll start leaving comments about you eating other kinds of eggs or even being an alien.

@@salemsaberhagansounds fun

@@salemsaberhagan Gotta differentiate from the homunculus eggs, after all.

Make sure you also specify cow milk

Butter (animal fat) Flour (wheat) Beer (Barley)

She was really awesome! She started as regent, reigning in the name of her step son but took on the title of Pharaoh, likely to counter political machinations to take power away from her and her young stepson. She lead for 22 years, including as co-Pharoah with her stepson once he came of age, until she died of natural causes. Contrary to early speculation, she seems to have had a very good relationship with her stepson and was beloved of the people. Some of the monuments she had erected stand today as some of the most iconic of ancient Egypt. There is some speculation that she was trans or non-binary (to use modern terms/ideas that weren't around then.) But in inscriptions using her own words she always uses she/her and things like mother and "woman Pharaoh." Not saying it's impossible that she wasn't cis, but the evidence, mostly her wearing traditional masculine Pharaoh attire, was more likely an aspect of being a woman trying (and succeeding!) at leading in a man's world. Regardless of her gender, she was a truly iconic and deeply underrated icon of femininity. I'm at the early stages of an art piece about her, hence all this research. Lol

@@CorwinFound If using "men" clothing makes someone trans, there are alot of trans woman when you look at everyone using pants instead of skirts... Even if we narrow it down to just suit/dress it would be alot

​@@CorwinFoundWhat in thy fricketh ⁉️

​@@CorwinFound , I despise these modern terms. She was a woman, and proud of it.

​@@ssu7653 , Historically men wore dresses. Look at Jesus.

It's pretty much what has happened in Cyprus during the Bronze Age Collapse and the Sea People invasion: Cyprus was known to be a huge manufacturer of bronze weapons (Cyprus takes its name from the Latin "Cuprum", or in English "Copper"), but they tried to hide them into the ground to avoid them being stolen from the Sea People, with the intention of unburying them up as soon as the pillagers would move away. But they never did, and the weapons remained buried until recently. Extra History made a whole series about that, here you are the link of the final video of this serie of theirs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3HaqpSPVhW8.html (specifically at the minute 2:25)

"This is the point hermit crabs learned how to protect themselves by zipping up their bags."

​@@tulliusexmisc2191 under rated response!

I wonder what they'll make of shopping carts??

@@Thomas-cj9uw Shopping carts are Goddamn indestructible , so you know they'll still be recognizable

None of those things will last 100 years, let alone thousands!

@@wavion2 A lot of em are on plastic. There will be enough traces lol

Maiden China, clearly means China is female, and prolly never got married (snicker)

I think Hogwarts is going to be the big mystery in a few thousand years.

It's for ceremonial purposes

On a lesser level, badgers digging setts in the UK have revealed the locations of forgotten Roman villas.

I was imagining finding a family of baboons living on top of ruins

@@terryhunt2659 that's cool!

Yes, this is what my mind supplied based on the title.

Underrated comment

that is a good one~ 😂

You’re such a Nut

😅😂

Not until Netflix touches it.

wait, you managed to get a keel-less, square sailed ship to go upwind? How?!

​@@J75Pootlehe's just making up stories

​@@junk_code1737Tbf his channel does have footage of an boat that filts the bill

@@junk_code1737 The video is literally on his page, posted 15 years ago.

@@J75Pootle Simple. Find a river with a strong flow. Let your ship follow this flow. Now wait for the wind to change.

Very good point. In the years where contact was lost, Punt could have collapsed and been replaced by Adulis.

They had maps and chronicles. They could learn from those.

So did Columbus it's just ancient maps are notoriously unreliable​@@ginnyjollykidd

It's unlikely after only a few centuries to have no idea where it was. There were probably just some socio-political conditions that caused the trade to stop for a while. You could have asked for Kemet for thousands of years and still get directions to ancient Egypt, and presumably they just asked if they had arrived in Punt. If you ask for Yngelonde today after a thousand years people will look at you strangely but point to England.

​@@ginnyjollykiddYes, in the same way, perhaps, that Columbus learned where India is, getting the right idea after a fashion (it's west as well as east), but still missing it by thousands of miles and misidentifying that other place, what is it, um, North America, yeah, that's it, as India.

That's okay, when they were showing the newspaper, I thought it said Look for the Herpes. But I'm also slightly dyslexic 🙄

Don't worry! Happens all the time to me...

"It's like America... but SOUTH!"

I read it that way too. It's possible it did and they fixed it. (perhaps it was a typo in the thumbnail).

I read Babylon 😅

There are. Eritrea is filled with the stuff. The problem is that so are Yemen, Djibouti, Somalia, Ethiopia, and parts of the Arabian peninsula.

​@andrewsuryali8540 not only the baboons that come from Punt but also: obsidian from the volcanic region, gold, incense, ebony, electrum ,leopard skins ect.. Eritrea have a lot of artifacts coming from Egypt not the other countries mentioned By the way great videos

​@@andrewsuryali8540The Abyssinian empire stretched to lower Arabia and Yemen. Makes sense...

@@coolguys9639 That is incorrect. Egyptians brought a special type of frankincense from Punt that is only found in modern day Somalia. Eritrean frankincense is considered low quality compared to Somalia. Egyptians also called Punt, Brbr. Somalis were known as Berbers for thousands of years and the chief port in Northern Somalia where Punt would be is called, Berbera. Somalia is also known for producing the best leopard skins in the region which Egyptians brought from Punt. Those Baboons also live in Somalia. Ancient Egyptian artefacts from almost 4000 yrs ago have also been found in Somalia.

@@themac9677 Furthermore, Thoth's name (the baboon god) is Djehuti in Egyptian and the Somali country that borders Eritrea is called Djibouti. There's more and more proof for Somalia but the list is too long.

Agreed! so much needed to be discovered and understood before any scientists could make this discovery

Somebody remembers I am weasel! The greatest show ever! I r baboon!

- +_"...Baboon would be revered as a god in Punt, but at a cost of being mummified..."_ - - - - - - Do you know what Egyptians did to the cats they worshipped? YIKES! On the PBS _NOVA_ channel, watch the episode "Cat Tales" about the evolution and history of the kitty in which Egypt played a big part. The last I looked, it was still available for free on their RU-vid channel. (Unfortunately, "Dog Tales" is gone - you'll need a PBS Passport membership to see that episode until such time as comes back for free.)

I'd think you would be wrong. It can only be in The horn of Africa because it is the only place where everything depicted about Punt lines up. All the animals they imported including Giraffes can only be found in Africa. Also the Egyptians said they worshiped the same ancient gods. In that region there is a religion called Waaquism. Waaq is a Hermaphrodic hidden god exactly like Amun. Also they worship a hawk god cslled Huur. Which is obviously their version to Horus. It is 100% NOT in the Arabian peninsula. Even the round raised huts are similar to very ancient Somalian architecture. Also if you look at the Cushitic speakers in the area like The Oromo, Afar, Beja and Tygre and compare them to how the Egyptians depicted themselves and Punt people, they look exactly the same. Even have the same hair styles, even after 4000 years. Those Cushitic people also carry a traditional dagger in their belt and you see the dagger on some of the Punt people depicted in Egyptian artwork. It is clearly in the horn of Africa.

​@@eingoluqit literally couldn't be in the horn. There wasn't a civilization there to visit until after Hatshepsut went there. They only just hit the first cattle and goat herders arrive about 3000 years ago on the horn coast area. Not one town or city there during Hatshepsuts reign. Also, you had giraffes and hippos in the levant and Arabia. There are rock carvings of giraffes there. They were there until the modern era. Also: multiple Egyptian texts literally say Punt was next to a place in Asia, or it was visited during voyages to Asia and was involved in Asiatic military campaigns. And the Egyptians said they came from Punt, which was to the east. Egyptians were descendants of the Neolithic Israel PPNB farming culture who colonised Egypt about 8000 years ago.

​@@eingoluq I'd like to add, Cushitic people had (and still have) Levantine farmer/herder ancestry the same as Egyptians (about half non African ancestry) and they hadn't arrived in the horn of Africa until about 3000 years ago.... They weren't actually in the Somalia region when Hatshepsut visited there. As for the round huts; those are marshland habitations and you'd see the same thing thousands of years ago where the sea of Galilee emptied into the red sea.

@@theexvegetarianblogger1688 poor response. There wasn't a civilization there? are you stupid? There were people who lived there for thousands of years. are you so dumb you truly think there needed to be a huge ass civilization for people to trade with other people? 🤣🤣🤣 Also, It literally is the only place it could be. Giraffes were NEVER native to the Arabian peninsula. NEVER They were imported in... via Punt most likely. in fact, the Bible actually tells us Punt was the horn of Africa. When Egypt ruled Canaan, the Israelites during the Iron Age invented the story of Noah and his children "Ham" (which comes from the Egyptian "Kem" for the dark soil along the Nile) Ham's children were Canaan(because Egypt ruled it at the time), Mizraim(Egypt), Kush(Cush) and Phut(Punt)... In that order. [Genesis 10:6]. Biblical scholars claim Punt was Libya, but we see Punt and Libya referenced as different people in the bible too, so they were clearly separate and Ham's children represented the black people across the Red Sea. There is also a part that said that a leader came down the nile from Punt and went to Lybia to rule them. the other regions of the Arabian peninsula was represented by Noah's other children. the nail is in the coffin on this one. It is because of this connection this region had with "the land of the gods" in Greek mythology, that Poseidon and Zeus are said to visit the Ethiopians often. It is literally impossible for Punt to not be in Africa. because the Egyptians describe two ways to get to it" -via the Nile then on land -or via the Red Sea in a southern then westerly direction there are other parts of the bible that said warriors from Punt joined Egypt's military. and many Ethiopians/Nubians/horn of African peoples have joined forces with Egypt throughout history, from the Nubian Medjay, to neolithic speakers and other Cushitic speakers associated with the Kingdom of Yam.

@@theexvegetarianblogger1688 Their Levantine ancestry means JACK squat if their presence in the region was so low, it did not even affect they traditional mythology. Egypt, Kush, and Cushitic peoples their religions is deeply African in origin and nowhere near similar to Middle Eastern mythology. so that means whatever presence the levnat had was minor. in fact one of the mistakes you people make is thinking their phenotypical features came from the levant when in actuality it came from the cold highlands of Ethiopian regions. so whatever Levantine DNA they had would be as insignificant as a white American claiming to be Navajo became their great great great great grandfather was one.

Never heard it, but sounds hilarious!

@@brandongaines1731 It's here on youtube. :)

The original version, 99 Tot Pavian, was amazing.

Lmao!

@@piltdownfilms Now, my German is rusty, but... Affen toten hinterher, Pwnt zu finden, das ist schwer...

How have you pronounced it? This is so interesting :)

​@@tuftela Commented to find the answer

@@tuftela As it is spelled in English "Punt."

It's actually pahwnt.

@@the_phobia Said no one.

Look up the british isles, without international trade, the Bronze age is an no go, since tin is so rare.

The ancient trade was much more vibrant than we think. Rome to china wasnt just on land through silk road but also from the sea being navigated by indian sailors, we even have evidence of indus valley having some trade relation with mesapotamia. While the situation is unclear about civilizations in america, the big civilizations in europe, asia and africa were trading quite well far back in time too.

Baltic amber was another trade good that has been found a long way from its source in sites from a very long time ago. People have been establishing trade routes longer than we've been building permanent villages.

Makes sense, as they're the type which lives closest to Egypt geographically. Problem is, that type of baboon is found across a fairly large area spanning multiple countries, so just knowing the imported baboons' particular species doesn't narrow Punt's exact location down much.

If I remember correctly. Tongues, as we know them, are primarily for land animals. Tongues were needes for land animals to swallow food. while in the ocean you can gulp or force your food in with suction.

​@@naturesfinest2408have you ever caught a fish? They have tounges.

@@jimbucket2996 theyre arent used for the same reason. And, if i remember correctly its been a minute, they are not real tongues. At least not at all like the tongues of land animals.

Why do we have chins? No other hominid species does.

@@jimbucket2996I know fish have tongues because there's that isopod that eats & replaces their tongue

All we can infer is that Pwnt got pwnt at some point in time.

"runt", going to go with runt, he was very small...

​@@DaveSomething...not very tall, and they stopped trading when he acted a...

(tries to make Pwnt rhyme with Ea-Nasir)

Yeah, all speculations have always been of somewhere coastal. Using 21st century maps for 19th and 20th century descriptions of places is pretty silly.

A lot of lakes and rivers that were present in 2500 BCE in the region are gone now, the entirety of north eastern Africa has undergone substantial aridification over the past 8,000 years.

Well now you gotta spill the temple beans, what sort of distinctive was it??

@@88smileandnod she was depicted with features that suggest she had steatopygia. biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig booty

@@88smileandnod Google ''Queen of Punt'' and go take a look at the images

@@88smileandnod google “queen of punt”

Can't just lead us on like that dude

goddamn egyptians really were the first in everything... including letting archeaologists know they got pwnt

I was waiting for this comment! 😅

Aaway odeygii Carabka ahaay ee aad sheegan jirteen ee doonta Yemen uga soo habaabay mise in ay been tahay ayaa la ogaaday

Somalia.

Imagine pwnt ends up being the ancient version of a mall 😂

But other scribes working for (say) people buying in timber for making building scaffolding from) would specify "5000 paces of boards, half-a-cubit by two-fingers ; made of Cedar, from Lebanon". So, which was normal (Lebanon-style or Pwnt-Style)? Or did they change (repeatedly)?

More like "we dug up your mummified pets for science" sort of affair.

Maybe they liked it better that way? 🤷 (hehehe)

😅 I thought the name of the east coast town changed around the time that area's ownership transferred from Netherlands to England.

Archeologists suspect white hair baboons can trace back their origins to Old Valyria.

True - but most states don't recognise Somaliland or "Puntland" (new to me!) as distinct from "Somalia".

I have always known Punt to be the land of the Somalis (parts of Ethiopia, Somalia, Kenya and Djibouti).

Germany = Deutschland China = Zhonguo Georgia = Sakartvelo Greece = Hellas

Exonym vs Endonym.

Imagine virtue signaling like this for an extinct people lol

They have done that. No records are known that have that information.

Theoretically ... But if what the Punt end of the trade route wanted was anonymous gold bullion ,,, and they then mixed that with their own sources (river panning, several sources in central-eastern Africa to this day) ... it gets *really* hard to work out the trade history from just isotopic data of gold artefacts made in Punt itself.

The problem is knowing specifically where it was. Our search is centered around the area the red sea empties into the gulf. It could be anywhere in Eritrea. Djibouti, Somalia, Ethiopia or Yemen. Was it a large kingdom that encompassed the whole area? It seems that punt was a stable kingdom throughout much of ancient egypts history. Egypt was the southwestern edge of the known ancient world. No one else really had contact with them. All ancient true cinnamon comes from Sr Lanka. I think egypt was likely keeping trade routes a secret. I'm willing to bet cinnamon traded by sea was cheaper than that traded by land. As today there was less overhead cost.

@@DavidWalls-sr1pg "Indian" sailors figures a 3-way "triangular" trade using the winds of the monsoon system, between the SW Indian coast, the mouth of the Red Sea, and the East African coast (Zanzibar - Kilwa Maosko) a long time ago. Long before Europeans exploited a similar set of winds in the Atlantic. Just how far back it goes, nobody knows. But the great Chinese voyages of trade in the 12th century met it. Whether it pre-dates them to the Romans (who knew "of" India") or Alexander (who knew "of" India before he took the land route) ... ? It's certainly not inconceivable that one corner of the "triangle" was in the Red Sea- Gulf of Aden area. But i know of no *evidence* for that idea.

@@a.karley4672 punt is the evidence

A person that is don with gold and snake skin?

I raised this very topic on Slashdot last week. The response was boringly predictable.

@@a.karley4672 Thanks for the reply 👍

Nope. If we actually go that route, there won't be a future. Our brains will shrink to the point that we can't function at today's level.

@@jdilksjr in the distant future they may have invented something that has the perfect balance of all the vitamins, minerals and nutrients the body needs. Something that has gained a view of being civilized and eating carcasses will be considered savage. I am a meat lover FYI. Just a little speculation and joking.

I agree, for what it is worth.

Yeah, I had to specifically say "The Kingdom of PWNT" in my search engine, or all I got was PWNED

Table with cloth cover? Magic show. Cue stove pipe hat- and wand. Our guy's a great presenter even without props.

Yep🙊🙉🙈👀ツ

​@@Hecarim420so you're a fact denier?

Ancient alien theorists say yes. 😉👽

Fringe theories are not automatically conspiracy theories. What would the conspiracy be here?

@@AaronGeo so you're a reality denier?