My favorite part about Mourning Never Comes is that Muiri only becomes available as a marriage option if you do her objective to kill Nilsine, which adds a whole other level of darkness to that quest
@@dem0n0maniac In my full assassin playthrough, I killed the parents of a few happy children so I could then adopt them and then I married Muiri. I thought it really brought a certain kinda aspect to the assassin lifestyle
Camilla is the exception to the first entry being evil... if you marry her Faendal will.. "visit" her at your house forever or until you send one of the 2 to the afterlife
I always bring faendal as my first follower anyway so I can get free archery training every level, but once I get to 50 archery, he's outlived his usefulness at that point and he always gets sacrificed to boethia
Take Sven's letter and show it to Faendal. This enables him to trust you in the same way doing his quest would. Then propose to Camilla in front of him. Afterwards, make him the steward of the home where Camilla lives, and have him teach you Archery. Make sure to take back the gold from him whenever he teaches you. Finally, when he gets to the point where he can no longer teach you, get the Ritual Stone, the Wabbajack, a Black Soul Gem, and the Ebony Blade, then Soul Trap him, and use him as your sacrifice for Boethiah, using the Ebony Blade. After that, use the Ritual Stone to bring him back as a minor distraction against the other cultists of Boethiah, in which he'll probably die to them pointlessly as an afterthought, but the distraction'll be there nonetheless. When the cultists are out of the way, use the Ritual Stone again to bring him back and kill him with the Ebony blade repeatedly untill it's fully charged. Ressurect him one last time and quicksave, hitting him with the Wabbajack until he turns into a pile of gold. Use that gold to buy some cheap jewelry. Then, use the Black Soul Gem to give it a Fortify Archery enchantment (lower it to min, if possible, I forgot if you can do that or not), and name it "Faendal".
I have golden hills plantations in my recent playthrough, the farm where you can earn passive income. I married Camila and have her and my children living there, and Faendal is my farmkeeper who makes me money lol. I took his side against Sven, trained archery from him, made him my buddy and stole the gold back, married the woman he loved, and made him my servant at my nice house in the middle of the countryside where he lives in a joint bunkhouse with other farmhands
I like doing the Ebony Warrior's quest, then resurrecting him and marrying him. I swear I've done this with almost every female character I've ever played, for no better reason than him being HUGE and STRONG... and since he lost to me, he has to be a househusband and look after the kids.
And I thought I was evil because I choose to liberate Skyrim from the empire alone because I enjoyed butchering entire garrisons of imperials alons. I also fancy calling my character the butcher of Skyrim. It's really fun roleplaying a bloodthirsty antihero killing machine
i had a very um... unique way of making money in skyrim. i would hunt the giants for there clubs, enchant them, sell them for 3-4 k a pop and let the money roll in. this video made me realize how cruel i was to profit off these poor creatures who just want to protect there property like an american veteran. side note: i dont know if it was just a bug or not, but after going on a mass murdering spree of these giants for a couple months, they just stopped spawning. i gained recognition among my family and friends as the dragonborn who hunted the giants to extinction lol. some ppl also said they was to scared to come back bc of me and thats why they weren't spawning. its pretty funny tbh.
No, you side with Faendal, have him be your companion through most of the game, propose to Camilla in front of him, marry her and have her live in Windstead Manor, where you make Faendal the steward of. So now he has to watch the woman he loved be happily married to you, and there is no door on your bedroom while you're gaining that Lover's Comfort perk. Not saying I've done that in a playthrough. Not at all.
@@goatslayer3160 Sounds good. I usually sacrifice people with a Greatsword of Malediction so that their souls can go to the most horrible of all Oblivion pockets.
@@goatslayer3160 Can't you do both? You have to kill your friend personally if I recall. Couldn't you power up the Ebony Blade by using it to sacrifice your friend? Or do you need to use a specific weapon to sacrifice your friend to Boethia?
The whole concept around soulgems is beyond messed up, morally speaking. Trapping people in the Soul cairn for eternity, denying them their desired afterlife, just to fuel your magic weapon.
@@williamking8684 yes, i captured plenty of souls and denied them an afterlife, but for a few short moments i created tremendous value in my iron daggers.
Vampires, Murderous Necromancers, and the occasional bandit are fair game for soul trapping. Heck I've soul trap an orc bandit chief so I could give an flame enchantment to one of mine silver greatswords, one out of a couple of my proudist weapons yet.
I mean, my favourite targets are bandits. If you want to kill me, it's only fair that I kill you and deprive you of a peaceful afterlife so I can use your entrapped soul to fuel the weapon I'll use to kill your brethren😁
In one of the Dark Brotherhood quests you have to kill the vampires who live at the wood mill. If you go there with the Ebony Sword and chop wood for them you become friends. You can now kill them with the Ebony Sword. If you get the standing stone which allows you to resurrect them then do so and kill them again and keep doing this until the sword is full.
letting paarthurnax live is like letting Heinrich Himmler live just because they apologized for organizing the holocaust. Plus if the greybeards get their way then Aldiun destroys the world because anything else it would mean fighting :0
Playing a bad character feels weird in Skyrim since they force that hero title on you. I'm running a thief character, being praised by characters that I'm robbing. I try to only rob prominent people but it's still hard to be immersed
That dragon stone is the bane of every players existence who just wants to vibe, I accidentally grabbed it when I was raiding that place for supplies early and now it's stuck in my inventory until I can drop it off
I usually park the main quest AFTER killing the first wyvern. I never go up to High Hrothgar, mostly because Balgruuf said one can't ignore a summons from the Greybeards and I took that as a personal challenge. I also kill anyone who calls my character "dragonborn"... I just hate the title. It is mostly just Whiterun guards if I park the MQ at that point though. I killed all the ones who came with Irileth to kill the first wyvern because they kept saying it.
@@evancrow2191 The Dragonborn enters Sovngarde through a portal, it's a special case. But only Nords end up in Sovngarde after death. So the Ebony Warrior, a Redguard, would never end up there.
@@evancrow2191 Most playthroughs of sovngarde (after death) end up in 15 different planes of oblivion with daedra you sold your soul to, not telling the other daedra you did the same to. Maybe even getting soul trapped. However definitely not Sovngarde
Killing the father of those two girls in Rorriksted and then later adopting them, isn't evil. It's the correct thing to do. One time I had a random idea to snipe the father off. I didn't know the girls were adoptable until one of them asked, if I could be their mother. I was just so mad at the father, that I decided to do something that day. I also think the girls were being prepared for something evil in that town. I ended adopting both and my character was married to Erik the Slayer at the time. I guess in a way I killed Rorriksted though.
@@shadowclann28 I think of it as them behaving like realistic siblings. Their parents where the Dragonborn and Erik the Slayer. I left them at the plantation and let them sort it out. Keeps Erik on his toes. Now he has more empathy towards his old man. As a mama Dragonborn, I think the mean sibling should spend some time following the Dragonborn, to help her work out her issues. I would be a mentor for both her and the bully girl from Whiterun if I could. I would take them both on camping trips, wear them out by making them do task and train them, until they are old enough to join the Companions. Where they can learn what it's like to be bullied and put in their place. But also channel that aggression towards something good.
@shadowclann28 it's less bullying now and more so just being siblings and while it's not explicitly shown it's implied having a actually good influence (through either the dragonborn or their spouse or both) and a caring parent has led britte to change her ways though we do get an explicit reduction in the bullying however sissel flat out tells us as much
Here's one of my favorite evil things to do in Skyrim. You know the Dark Brotherhood quest in which you're instructed to kill the bride at her wedding? You don't have to be the one with blood on your hands. Follow the happy newlyweds onto the balcony. Best to have an invisibility spell prepped as you go through the door. Reverse-pickpocket a frenzy potion into the inventory of the groom. He will take the potion, draw his weapon & slay his bloody, er...blushing bride. The crowd will be appalled at the public murder, turning upon and cutting him down. At this point, contract fulfilled. You can stroll out of town peacefully. The Argonian sent to provide cover still shows up & begins attacking people, so best to leave quickly before he gets hurt. Evidently, the game developers didn't foresee this approach & so didn't include an option for you to accomplish the task without becoming the target of the Solitude guards.
A core Skyrim memory will always be using a Scroll of Mayhem at Victoria Vicci's wedding and watching all the guests beat each other to a pulp while I made my escape.
If you do the quest and fulfill the bonus you can actually leave the area without ever being seen. You just need to hide immediately after it falls and remain hidden.
@@hyperboi4077 I discovered one a while ago: if you can "1-shot" kill with a bow and right when it strikes, go to the map and fast travel away. It will give you the kill and you are gone so quickly that no bounty results.
I got one that may or may not be evil, but is a tad messed up. Go to Darkwater Crossing. Find Annekke, she and her husband Verner founded the mining town, and have a 'strained' relationship. Do her Kill Bandit Leader mission and she will become your follower, leaving her husband behind. She can't marry you, but you know who can? Her daughter Syljga in Shor's Stone. Then Annekke can be your mom in law, and you can make her a Steward at the farm, live there with your wife/her daughter, and Verner sits around by himself wondering where all the women in his life have gone. Also, sell him a piece of Corundum so he likes you....
I did something similar. Only difference is Annekke actually volunteered to be my steward. Which means she didn't want to go on adventures; she wanted to get away from her husband.
@@Dovah_Slayer Do you ever tried anormous adventures AND shadowmans NPCs mod for Annekke? Its better than a mod to just marry her if you know what i mean *wink
Ebony Blade slightly less evil option: level conjuration to 100, learn Dead Thrall, befriend Ondolemar in the Understone Keep in Markarth after doing his little quest, try to seclude him from the other npc's, whip out the Ebony Blade, carve the fucker up like a pumpkin, cast Dead Thrall on his corpse, rinse and repeat. Make sure you have no decapitation perks on your two-handed skill because a headless Thalmor will fail to be raised.
There are a few better options though like the Argonian bandit in solitude. For some reason he counts when you end up killing him at the end of his quest and you can do the same method. Though you can use the necromancer stone near whiterun to accomplish the same thing without needing conjuration of 100.
One of the Jarls was being unnecessarily rude to me (because I didn't do his stupid fetch quests yet), despite being so OP by that point I could put Kratos to shame. Long story short, I killed the entire town (Falkreath?), soul trapped them all, and left all the soul gems in a giant pile in front of his thrown.
I had just passed through Falkreath in my playthrough a couple days ago (its my first time playing) and as soon as you said "rude Jarl" I knew exactly which one it was lol
I wouldn't say I'm "evil" in Skyrim, but I am prone to disproportionate retribution. Take Maven Black-Briar, for instance. She is sadly essential for various reasons... BUT... I always burn down ALL the bee-hives at Goldenglow, and leave the rats AND the maniac alive under Honningbrew Meadery, complete all the side-quests that can hinder members of her family, then kill all said family members... I ALWAYS side with the Stormcloaks so Maven never ends up as Jarl... and every single time the thieves guild give me a quest to steal random loot in Riften, I EXCLUSIVELY steal from Maven Black-Briar. By the end of the Thieves Guild Questline, she is the only surviving member of her family, is probably far less rich than she used to be because I've taken every possible opportunity to ruin her financial endeavours, and as the final nail in the coffin, the moment I become guildmaster I celebrate by turning Maven's essential flag off and leaving her corpse in the cistern. For that matter, Rolff Stone-Fist and Angrenor Once-Honored both likewise suffer my wrath (after removing Rolff's essential flag, courtesy of the thieves guild again). Usually via fire runes left on their beds. I just lurk on top of the bridge and wait for the explosion, then go and dump their corpses in the river... and watch them get washed out to sea. The funny thing is I could get Rolff as a friend by beating him up, but the thought of Rolff considering me a friend disgusts me on a personal level. Oh... and guards. Especially Solitude guards, but also Whiterun guards to a lesser extent. I'm very VERY prone to sniping the area near them with Frenzy spells to make them kill each other. Fun times.
I once got the quest from Lemkil and when i saw his daughter was the target i beat him down instead it failed the quest but it felt right his daughters had a positive disposition towards me afterwards as well LOL
You ever played that Khajiit Will Follow mod? There is a quest in that one where one of your followers gets too tired out on her quest to find her brother and asks you to go on ahead "and bring him back"... and you find him just as he is dying. Well... since I promised, I raised him as a zombie and had him follow me back outside. She never specified he had to be alive.
I once wanted to test my new vampire lord skills as I had just turned, so I transformed into a vampire lord and totally massacred a mining town, to test my skills and new strength. There was one child in the town who was screaming for help, so I cast vampire seduction on her so she’d relax and then adopted her. Hopefully that spell had wiped her memories 🤣
The most evil thing in the game? Probably a horse being able to be a witness to your deeds after killing an imperial noble and his bodyguard in the middle of nowhere with no Guards about. Absolutely chilling.
Malborn was not tortured by the Thalmor, He can die fighting back after getting found out as a spy. I think you got him confused with Rarnis, another victim of the Thalmor that you can threaten for info and leave at the mercy of the Thalmor. Other than that, great video.
Dang, that last one was the pure embodiment of evil. Force him to train you in archery, take all the money he got from teaching you, steal his girl, then sacrifice him just for fun.
Tip: To fill the Ebony Blade faster without making your morality getting thrown away any further, use the power of Ritual Stone. End a selected friendly unit or follower is one charge, resurrect them with Ritual Stone and end them again. Just try not to behead them or else they can't be reanimated again.
Regarding the "Adopting kids that you orphaned" section, it's actually a kind thing to do if you kill Lemkil in Rorikstead, since he beats his children and wants them dead. In fact, his name is an anagram for "kilL me"
11:50 Sacrifice him with the Ebony Blade for maximum evil points! You can then grind the EB by using the ritual stone to kill him over and over again until you no longer want to murder your ''pal''.
Most evil thing I did in skyrim was that every time I cleared out a hostile camp id always drag all the bodies into a pile. I was like 9 years old at the time, I don't understand why they all had to be completely stripped and in a pile but it made my first play-through take so long. Literally hundreds of piles were made
That’s a good thing to do. Otherwise the bodies would stink in real life. Maybe you picked it up from Lotr? The Rohhirm pile the dead orcs in a pile and burn them. Maybe you just were cleaning up cause you were 9. Maybe a subconscious thing where you clean up the “bad” things you did (killing) even tho it it was just a game.
Only thing I didn't know about on this list was the guy paying you to beat his kids. And incidentally you can level up the Ebony Blade without killing anyone, if you go to Solstheim and visit that one ruin, I think it was Kagrumez or something, the one where you need those gems to unlock the doors. The two dwarven automaton allies you get in there respawn after I think just two days, and count as an ally. Recruit them, immediately kill them, and the blade goes up one level. Come back every couple days until it's maxed out.
More evil things. - Killing Farengar. ( Literally no one cares) - Telling Sibbi Black- Briar where his ex girlfriend is so he can send a hit team on her. - Siding with the Stormcloaks - Joining the Ordinators. ( I know they're not really evil, but they don't honour the Sixth House and the Tribe Unmourned and so must die) - Not Adopting Sophie. - Killing Narfi - Stealth Archery. - Using Bloodtainted Auriel's bow as a Vampire. - Your NSFW modlist.
@Jay Jay join raging racists who started a pointless Civil War weakening skyrim while also gaining absolutely nothing in the process (the empire will canonically win the war without the Dragonborn interfering they are better funded better equipped and is actually an organized army) against the real threat spilling so much blood needlessly. VS the empire who was beaten and forced to outlaw talos worship also they have always had skyrim as its territory allowing it to prosper, keeping the roads as safe as they possibly could and multiple other good things such as trade, need I remind you the Empire hates the thalmor as well? If Ulfric the moron wasn't so stuck up (or hell maybe he was after toryggs throne all along and is just using this civil war as a cover up) he would've realized this war will gain him nothing, but cost skyrim and the empire everything only solidifying The Thalmor's hold. So tell me again why you think joining the stormcloaks is morally right?
@@VG111-n7f Enlighten me. Why is siding with people who want freedom for their homeland evil? Are you saying Americans were evil to rebel against the British?
i unintentionally did this when adopting the farmers daughters. one of them was super happy and the other wanted to give me attitude so i gave one everything under the sun while actively ignoring the other. didn't realise skyrim kids could get so depressed
In one playthrough I sided with Faendal and got Camila to hate Sven. I then made Faendal my Steward. I married Camila after that. Faendal would then walk around my homestead talking about how beautiful Camila was.
The layers of evil you can do in Skyrim are potentially so cruel, your character would barely qualify as a person if doing some of it. You could actually marry Camilla, get the Ebony Blade, take Camilla the the shrine of Boethia, soul trap her and kill her with the Blade to feed it, while also taking her soul. To go further in absolute, total evil, you can then raise her corpse as a dead thrall, and use her trapped soul to enchant a ring for you to wear, and parade her undead corpse in front of both her suitors, before also soul trapping them and subsequently feeding the blade with their deaths. This particular possible path is especially horrible when you consider that all three of them will end up in the Soul Cairn for eternity as living batteries for some necromancer overlords. If that's not evil enough, you could even be more cruel in killing Sven and Faendal by either murdering or immobilizing the other nearby people, then just getting the two of them to kill each other with frenzy spells, not even leaving their minds alone, and adding mental manipulation to the emotional torment and murder scheme. Honestly, if you really want to, you could do so many evil things to people in Skyrim, it's a little disturbing. But having considered it, that combination of things is probably the most vile, sadistic, cruel character you could possibly have. If there's actually anything worse than that, it takes way more creative thought than I'd want to put into that kind of thing. I mean, that list includes emotional torture, partial mind control, murder, manipulation, and outright keeping a trophy of how terrible you are. To rationalize a character actually doing that, he'd have to be a sadist to the extreme, bloodthirsty, and in some twisted way actually be proud of doing all that. It ruins the point of an RPG if the character you play as loves to do things that no decent person would ever attempt doing, and is so opposed to what you enjoy yourself that you can't even like your own character.
Honestly? I almost always adopt Sissel to rescue her from that family. In each playthrough, something seems to happen to Lemkil, for some reason... In terms of "Diplomatic Immunity", if you do use the dark elf servant to cause the distraction, you can rescue both her AND Malborn. They will be found in the dark elf quarters' bar in Windhelm (if they survive the trip).
@@JustSomeDude42 Really? I'll check for him next time I'm there. I have Soul Tear, but never found Arvak. I'll go back for Arvak and Valerica at some point, and look for Lemkil, too.
I gotta bring this up, cause I realized it on my last play through. I ended up killing Nilsine Shatter-shield during one of the dark brotherhood quests. Then I went to Riften and adopted Runa Fair-Shield who I assume was their daughter and Finally I married Muiri who is also the one responsible for the initial dark brotherhood contract.
Every time I play skyrim I do the marrying Camilla thing every time but after getting Faendal to level me up as much as I can I take him to lakeview and make him my steward so he has to live and serve the person that married the woman he loved
I did that exact thing.. Helped Faendal, got him to train me, got money back, trained again, etc... Then Married Camilla and had her run Goldenhills Plantation Only thing i didnt realize, is that Faendal has been appearing there when i sleep and wake up in the morning.. Found him ouch, at the FOOT OF THE BED! Then he just leaves and walks back to Riverwood. If it happens one more time.. it will be, his, last.... /squints
On Number 2, regarding the same family you mention in 3, it could be considered an act of charity if you kill their abusive father and adopt the twins.
You can take stuff including gold from followers. You can also pickpocket them. Using sneak attacks on faendal at high difficulty so you don't kill him allows for an easy 50 sneak 50 archery before even leaving riverwood
You can, but you’d have to be REALLY good at pickpocket, as the initial rate of pickpocket is 0%. Heh, do that to your pickpocket trainer, see how THEY like it!
about the giant near windhelm: in my last game, I did not notice the notice, however neither did the dragon that attacked him first, killing him (not to worry, he was avenged)
I sacrificed the Azure guardian, held a grudge against her for her attacking me after that mission of going into Azure star and deleting the guy in there as a werewolf. She attacked me once released. Plus did make my character more of an evil type.
With the Ebony Blade, you don’t even to kill ten different people to improve it, just one person and one four ways reviving the dead, these four ways don’t turn the revived into ash like most revival methods do. The Ritual Stone is one of the four ways, as for the others, can’t remember, but check out video on the Ebony Blade by Camelworks.
I mean u can sell Skooma to some children there is one named Sofie she sells Flowers and Skyrim treats Flowers as Alchemy Ingredients and Skooma as a Potion long story short u can sell the skyrim equivalent of Heroin to a 9 Year old 😅🤣
You can save Sissel from her abusive father and sister by adopting her and leaving her sister in the orphanage. Is that really evil? Also, you can first go to Sven to get his letter, then betray him by going to Faendal, then lie to Camilla about Faendal's letter, then steal all Faendal's money and expertise in archery, sacrifice him to Boethiah using the Ebony Blade, and then marry Camilla yourself and adopt two children who were living in a happy family, before killing her to marry Nilsine instead (using console commands) until Muiri's quest to now kill your own wife, and then marry Muiri. That way those children lost three mothers in a row, absolute big brain time.
I killed nilsine for the extra money and later when I came back to the house for a different quest her mother was dead cuz she killed herself💀 The same run I also did exactly what u described with Faendal and I just now realised how evil that was
You almost described my first play through but I was more cruel, I married Camilla valerius and then made Fendel my steward So he had to watch us be married, then when I was done with her I brought him along as my companion on the Boethia quest to kill her
Second one isn't evil, especially when we have a scumbag for a father in Rorikstead. I felt that I'm doing these girls a favor, when I killed their father with a Fury spell once. Never felt evil, or a shred of regret.
I killed Lemkil and took sissel my other daughter is Sophie that poor girl selling flowers (most of the time i adopt both britte and Sissel but i felt so bad for Sophie and i had to adopt her curse you bethesda for limiting us to 2 chidlren) now they live happily in my home in heljarchen hall
I do the one with last one every playthrough! I take it a step further even. I don’t kill Faendal… I make him my housecarl at the same home as I keep Camilla once I marry her 😈 what’s extremely weird is in fact he will stare at Camilla while she sleeps in the master bedroom.
I can do you even better than just sacrificing Faendal to Boethia. I had a playthrough where I married Camila and forced Faendal to be my steward at the house we lived in together XD
Mjoll was my go to wife, because she just seemed so badass, but then i discovered i pretty much cucked Aerin, and i'm not into that kinda stuff so i turned into a warewolf and killed everyone in Whiterun (where we moved). and holy shit it's wild, i just remembered this was from my first playthrough back in 2012...
For killing a certain npc you can get a letter in Darkwater Crossing. I don't remember which one but I am pretty sure it's the Mom of the young girl that works there. I believe it was from her father, though I don't remember. Been like 2 years since I tried it. A courier delivered it to me. (I basically rampage across the town to see what would happen. XD Success I guess? Anyone else find weird hidden things like that?
I can't believe you didn't go the extra mile. You befriend Faendal by siding with him, have him train you in archery for free, betray him once by marrying Camilla yourself. Then you sacrifice Faendal at the altar for your final betrayal of him, while simultaneously causing your wife to grieve over a lost friend. You then kill Sven and Lucan to ensure your wife is in an utter state of despair before you finally murder her with the ebony blade, which gets it FULLY CHARGED in one kill by betraying your spouse(something you failed to mention) That's how you take that love triangle introduced in Riverwood and turn it into one of the most evil and diabolical acts the dragonborn can perform
Yup I always take out lemkil and adopt sissel while leaving the older bully sister to rot in the orphanage. I mean his name backwards does pretty much say kill me so he was just asking for it 🤷♂️
I have a different solution for malborn in your number 4 instead of leaving him save him bring him outside and let him see daylight one last time before you stab him in the back quite literally.
To mitigate the evil of giving your companions' lives to the Ebony Blade, hire a mercenary follower (I'm sure there are high approval NPCs that naturally die during certain quests anyway, but this is the quickest way), max out conjuration by casting Soul Trap on dead bodies, then learn the Dead Thrall spell. Do the Boethiah quest that requires you to sacrifice a companion, kill the mercenary with the Ebony Blade, Dead Thrall them back to life, and continue killing them until your Ebony Blade is maxed out.
no the beating of the child quest was not an oversite as it ties into the towns history related to the fact that no fertile women are in the town due to we all know why and their father sees the kids as the reason his wife was picked to uphold the pact with the well dark god that gives them good soil he just does not know the real reason and thinks she just died in child birth
