Evolution of Twinrova Battles & Appearances in Zelda Games (1998 - 2024) 

I was annoyed that they even bothered with that reveal in the flashback. It was kindq pointless considering Ganondorf just teleported in and did the deed anyway. There was no need for an imposter.

@@silverblade357 Zelda also said, did you think we would be fooled. Ganondorf: Well not you obviously. I never intended for you to see my puppet. Zelda: Well I saw through it. That was not Zelda.

@@silverblade357 I'll bet we'll see her in the inevitable DLC expansion.

@@twilighttiger2368 Where Link will continue to keep his mouth shut about what he already knows!

I was hoping it was someone like Zant or Agahnim.

And a wind variant too

@@JustinBrown-hq2yb yeah like maybe a parallel dimension of twinrova that work togheter as the main antagonist of BOTW 3 or whatever be the name of what follow totk's events when they team up to put both of their respective hyrule into darkness

@@theenderkirby and the ending has all of them fuse together

@@JustinBrown-hq2yb yeah but their powers aren't enough to hold it complete so like a second phase is like an unstable almgamation

@@theenderkirby yeah

They’re dead over ten thousand years tho

@@connaileen If Star Wars can get away with saying "Palpatine returned somehow" Nintendo will find a way, hell maybe it'll be an offspring related to them.

​@@connaileen The originals lived for +400 years. I wouldn't be surprised if they found a way back. They did in the Downfall Timeline. Though it's probably because Ganondorf/Ganon brought them back

@@firionkaiser8291I forgot they never actually died in the child timeline as far as we know

@@connaileen True and we haven't seen them since either.

20:42 blurry and all the way in the back on both side of the room you can see each sister holding staffs and their elemental hair

They're also the only other green gerudo, so there's another hint that it's them

Like a ganondorf growing simulator zelda game thing?

Maybe they'll be the bosses for the Tears of the Kingdom DLC.

@@ZachStone3213 yeah I can see them as returning bosses alongeside vercious from a link to the past, the ginie from awekening, and the helmaroc king from wind waker to name a few

I don't recall this boss fight in cadence of Hyrule. Was this in a DLC?

@@pushingdasies1 yeah if I don't wrong there was a skull kid DLC in the cadance game

Huh, that’s interesting and funny.

Zamn

I can see why she calls it that

Ah, thats why in the German Version they called the transformation "sexy Thermo hexy" (Hexy IS a pun on hexe=witch)

Where is it

The two gerudo at the center both have blue and red clothed

@@Enrique_26 They are also present in Memory 6. I think they are the ones with the golden masks.

@@scipion3679 yes they are

Hopefully they’ll be in a dlc

Do you mean the young or the old versions??

@@connaileen In the Molduga memory and the Royal Court Memory, two masked and green skinned Gerudo women can be seen. Their clothes have their names in Hyrulian on them. I assume they're the young versions Maybe if they are in a DLC, we'll face an old version who used magic to sleep while waiting for Ganon to be revived?

Hm, i would like that.

@@phlojem285 that sounds interesting.

​@@phlojem285it'd be cool to see a modern version of the oracles plot return, maybe see dragon humanoid ganon. But wouldn't really work with how the game is structured, as you cant do a form of new game plus with ganon dead.

That’s not the same Twinrova from OOT. Their a different pair of twins that most likely raised TOTK Ganondorf as well.

@@mr.magnificent7374 Oh thats why

Well, when one kingdom is ruled by a goat man, such things probably don't seem as odd.

This made me laugh my butt off my bed, good one! 😂

I knew it instantly.

That would shatter the timeline once again

I would like that, I have been wondering about what became of Sooga.

I thought they were cool lesbian moms or siblings.

It would fit that way, to make them young in TOTK since Koume remarked that she was 400 years old in OOT. Which makes me think, is it a normal life span for the Gerudo or is it exclusive for Twinrova & Ganondorf as they are the only Gerudo that practice magic? The only species that do confirm their slow ageing process are the Zora, is it a similar story for the Gerudo?

Altho it wouldnt work since every 100 years a new one is born, but as long as ganondorf exists a new one cant be born. It would mean that two ganondorfs would exist the whole time. One underground and one just living as seen in ocarina of time. I still think its so far in the timeline that Rauru founded a new hyrule. And that is not new considering that spirit tracks also has the element of founding a new hyrule. Nintendo gets to start over without ruining the legacy of older games and the respected titles and elements like the master sword and ganondorf

For me at this point it feels like "The founding of Hyrule" that TotK is referring is not the very first kingdom of Hyrule ever, but more like the founding of the Kingdom of Hyrule for the world where BotW and TotK takes place

That would be interesting, I have been wondering about how a AoC Sequel would be like and be about.

Their clothing has the names “Kotake” and “Koume” on them.

Same, my second would be those twins from the first bloodrayne

​@@natebarajas2977 tbh I fought evil twins in video games 5 times the last was the most evil. Mickey and Lou from far cry new dawn. Oh and my second was Amber and Crystal from Dead rising 2.

Well, there has been more than one Impa too, so what can you say.

@@johanstenfelt1206 It's not the same Impa though. It's usually just a person sharing a name and a role across the ages. Each Impa varies pretty wildly from time period to time period, unlike the Twinrova.

@@bentobias737 fair point.

​@@bentobias737maybe they're not being reincarnated and they're just the descendants that share the same name, just like Impa. But yeah it's still suspicious

Well now I have a theory about where the past memories events happened let's say around 360 or so years before ocarina of time's events don't know if before or after minish cap and four swords but like maybe seeing ganondorf's malicious power gave them inspiration to become witches, but if this the case so basically the ganondorf of totk isn't the same ganondorf in the main timeleine like two different persons who hold the same name I know is sound a bit weird but that my best bet

@@theenderkirby well, I also think tork memories happen before ocarina and probably before minish cap (since in minish cap there is already a few kings of hyrule) but at the same time its confusing how, there is no master sword but at the same time there is ganondorf, not demise

@@zeromontalvan1514 yeah like my best bet that the master sword still inside the temple of time made by human rauru and was forgotten by time only got remembered by some or it was before the temple of time of ocarina was created and the master sword was still on it's place skyward link put it in the end of the game

@@theenderkirby nice point, but i think that the zonai sages made the goddess sword for link to transform it into the master sword in skyward, in one memorie rauru used zelda and that other girl with the tear (I don't remember her name) power to defeat the moldugas that ganondorf sent, probably like the master sword, the zonai can charge with divine power and they used it to make the sword, it is said that Hylia used her last amount of power to create the sword, so probably they made it absorbing hylia's power to forge it, giving at the same time the power to absorb divine power, this would fit with the sages making the sword, the sages being able to recharge it in wind waker and with what its said in skyward sword

@@zeromontalvan1514 yeah it sureley confusing like some like saying the kingdom of hyrule in the time of zonai rauru is actually a new kingdom of hyrule founded sometime in the past but still in the future of the end of the timeline depend on branch, which my only guess it can work is because that rauru or the zonai aware the existence of hylia to the current gen of the hylians but yeah is super confusing and I really hope to get answers about it

I do.

Personally, I would think he wouldn’t give a fuck about them. Although his two blades in Wind Waker have Koume and Kotake etched in each of them.

​​@@SirBallsDeepOfHouseManthrust Ganondorf be like, "Meh. Casualties of war. I'm not about to weep or rage over a pair of 400 year old witches that spent their lives dicking with black magic."

​@@SirBallsDeepOfHouseManthrustWHAT?! I'VE PLAYED WIND WAKER LIKE A MILLION TIMES AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT

​@@lynk172 it's ancient Hyrulian so makes sense you wouldn't notice.

Usually only the third time. The first 2 times, she does 3 of one element then 3 of another. But in her third "phase," she switches it up.

On the N64?

@@thelunarlunatic9681 yes

Surrogate mothers. They are Ganondorf's surrogate mothers. That's not the same thing as step-mothers.

Koume:but I am only 400 years old Kotake:and I am just 380 years old

@@theenderkirby I'll come back to haunt you!

…other than their literal names being on their clothing

The six characters on the sashes worn by both figures spell "KO-U-ME-KO-TA-KE" in Hylian. One has a blue gem and sash, and the other has a red gem and sash. Both are the only other Gerudo besides Ganondorf to have green skin. "Twinrova" isn't as much a name as it is a title. -rova being the anglicized version of "Rouba", it then translates to "Twin Old Women". Think of the form more as something that's the result of a technique, not their default state.

Different timeline. OoT technically happened on the Adult Timeline while OoS/OoA happen on the Downfall Timeline. It makes more sense when you take ALttP in game lore into consideration: 1. Ganondorf killed the Hero of Time upon opening the way to the Sacred Realm instead of letting him sleep for 7 years. Therefore, the Hero of Time never fought Twinrova. 2. Ganondorf was able to obtain the whole Triforce in the Sacred Realm instead of just the Triforce of Power. Ganondorf also immediately transformed into Ganon after gaining the Triforce. 3. Ganon was never able to find his way back from the Sacred Realm upon obtaining the Triforce, therefore, was never able to take over Hyrule. Basically, OoT in the Downfall Timeline was very different than the game OoT.

Not really. Both share the green skin Koume and Kotake had in the previous games versus the brown skin the other Gerudo, aside from Ganondorf, have. Both stand in a place of honor just behind Ganondorf wearing golden masks.....One with a ruby, the other with a sapphire, matching their elements: Fire and ice. And most importantly, each has their respective name written or stitched on the fabric draped across their shoulders in Hylian text, just like their Ocarina of Time versions had their names on their headbands. Fabric that also shares a similar design or stylization to those of the aforementioned headbands. That's.........A LOT of details for Nintendo to incorporate into their character designs only to turn around and say "Yeah, no....They're not meant to be younger versions of them that we decided to put in there for a sense of continuity, or as an easter egg, reference or nod to Ganondorf being raised by them............"

Or at the very least, new versions of them.

In fact.....New incarnations or iterations of them makes more sense......Twinrova, yes......But not *the* Twinrova that was in previous games.

...you think tears of the kingdom ganondorf is the grandfather of ocarina of time twinrova? Yeah no, tears of the kingdom takes place incredibly far in the timeline past all the other games along with botw, far later than ocarina

​@@fungi265 Twinrova appears in the flashback. So its not imposible

@Tomás Gabriel Carrizo several zelda characters appear in multiple incarnations throughout the series, that's just another case. There's nothing to prove they're the same twinrova from ocarina.

Not really. Their appearances (only in memories, and they don't speak a line) is only an easter egg, so far at least.

Except that’s not what they look like

Their names are written in Hylian on their clothing and they have matching jewels/clothing in terms of colours. It's not a stretch. It's called an Easter Egg.

It’s literally them, dude, they have their names written on them, like the person above said, plus they have green skin like Ganondorf and they have a fire and ice gem on their forehead, respectively, plus it’s clear they’re high ranking Gerudo members, they use these weird masks.

@@theycallmebad Yeah gonna need official proof and confirmation. Have a nice day.

@@Murky_Mires It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, personally, if they were Kotake and Koume. Now, when I say this, I don't mean the _Ocarina of Time_ versions, but new iterations/incarnations made or designed for this game. Their green skin, golden masks with a ruby/sapphire on them, the fabric draped across their shoulders......Fabric stylized after the headbands Kotake and Koume wore in _Ocarina of Time,_ and bearing their names in Hylian text. Not to mention, they seem to hold a rather special place or rank within the Gerudo forces......In ALL of the dragon memory cutscenes with Ganondorf with these two Gerudo in them, they're always standing behind him at attention, one at each side save for the scene where he makes his false pledge of alliance to Rauru. In that scene, they're crouched down, bowing to Rauru like Ganondorf and the other Gerudo were. So........They're either a case of characters with designs heavily inspired by them, easter eggs/references to them, younger versions of them or new incarnations of them created simply for those cutscenes........an utter waste. So, yes.....In the bulk of these scenarios.....No. They're not the Twinrova of days gone by, but new characters/versions of them altogether. A mere nod to the past games in a game littered with references to the past. No more. No less.