Being a pastor myself you are always in the eyes of the public, sometimes no matter what you do its never right. Was osteen wrong? Im not going to judge I'm just going to pray for the man. Pastors are not perfect beings. We all make mistakes. Is joel a false preacher? Sometimes i wonder. But i leave that up tp God to set the record straight.
And his interview on CNN where he said Jesus is not the only way to Heaven was shameful. That’s one of the most elementary questions of Christianity, and he completely bombed it.
Joel Obscene did not wait too long to open the doors of his mega church to the public. As a matter of he said the doors were not closed at all. He was waiting untill God told him when to invite the public to come in. Remember he is a praying man and was praying for the storm to go away
Mohammed Hosein Did you see his last interview when a female reporter was asking him questions? She was wearing a red jacket with a hat. As she was talking to him he was looking very upset and puzzled in the face like why all these damn ppl hear. He was rubbing his neck and looking around with that get out my place type look until he realized the cam was in front of him!
hotties3v3n right! Like you really tried it! What if people were like well lets see if the other churches fill to capacity before we go to his church, well lets wait till the offering plate fills up before we give our money to the church
I'm sure you're sleeping flne night and doing much of nothing but being a critic. I know people And they are working around the clock helping people and have been while they themselves have water crisis to deal with in their own homes. You critics as stupid as ever for believing this garbage and disrespectful. Hugely and others are on social media spreading this lie about these church volunteers because you have some grudge against Joel. This is so insulting to the volunteers and staff who have been there since the day the water receded helping people. People (volunteers) need time 1) safely travel through flooded streets 2) to mobilize and get organized to help the masses. 3)take care of the water issues the church had. As I watch these idiots ranting about this church and it's volunteers as they themselves are sitting in a chair in front of a camera to get a RU-vid video lie out to people who are sitting in front of their smartphone or computer criticizing the efforts of church volunteers while truthfully those critics are the ones that should be hanging their head in shame because they're the ones who are really doing nothing but sitting around spreading gossip and lies. It is almost as disrespectful as US soldiers who put their lives on hold to serve their country and come home to appreciative people who have no idea about serving
slraifsnider ACTUALLY im in Texas and im also effected by the flooding, the loss of water for my whole city, limited food, gas plus I've lost a family member due to Harvey ,so sleeping fine at night, no not so much, but thanks
I heard somewhere that Osteen 'was waiting to be asked to give shelter to people from the hurricane.." Let's see, should we call.that..."Anticipatory Christianity"??
Just sickening, having to lie once again, to convey up his lies, did he once say he was gong to contribute any of his wealth to these victims, did he even once mention this all this time, I bet he did not or will never give any of his precious money to help his fellow citizens that he loves so much. But in no way his love for people can compare to his love of money, so true for his family, not even really helping to prove otherwise. I'm telling it like it is, so deal with it osteens?!!!
This so call church ask for money from the people that was there to get shelter 😂 no lie I have seen a video pasting the bucket around the peapal that's was there
100%!!!!!! Who needs to tell you to help people when you're a supposed man of God, who happily takes their money on any given Sunday!!! Their is a special place in Hell for Joel and all the other filthy rich false preachers!!!
Joel has been helping me a lot in my depression. I have never given him money nor has he asked. Assessing this issue is needed, but derogatory hate- comments are uncool.
Jimmy78 hey jimmy.your real man sir.pray for yoh.i lost family members to homicide it was so painful.i had to be treated for depression. Yesterday s man told me I was going to burn in hell.all because I told maybe joel Osteen and his wife opened church later than they wanted. But it's open and helping lot of people.i hope sir you have good day.god bless Houston and state of texas.jim you will get thru this.
ET? That tells you more of his character! Phony charlatan! He shouldn't have had to wait for the city to ask him. He should have told the city he was open! That's what churches do!
I'm so glad that other facilities, such as: mosques, churches, schools, bars, business establishments, etc. chose to agape their neighbors vs. a legalistic cautious approach (mingled with premeditated deception) while yet untold thousands were in immediate danger. As a result, MANY LIVES WERE SAVED!
If the controversy had never happened … they would of never let people in the church and would later ask for donations to help the victims of the storm 🤣😅
He proved he's annoyed about helping the needy. He's worried about showers, while they lost everything. He goes back to a 10.5 Million dollar Mansion, he gets to rest his head. He's Tax e exempt and shame on his body language and shit coming out of his mouth was rude. Like- "They just need to get on with their lives" Asked- Have you ever turned anyone away. He said- He'd take them to shelters, as he back peddled that answer. Oh by the people's choice. Oh really Joel. You freak HE should help financially, while he 70 plus Million
He's a man of God...he never claimed to be God ....and predict how bad it was going to get and be pre-prepared. But he is human and humans make mistakes. I wonder what all these haters and judgmental people did for these victims. Nothing I'm sure.
Debbie Olson ...please stop! Your apology for Joel ends up worse than if you said nothing at all ( that Joel made mistakes hasn't been established yet).
Why is everyone judging Joel Osteen? What are YOU doing to help the victims? That's right. You're not doing ANYTHING to help. At least Joel is helping while you're criticizing him.
Well at the end of the day he did open his doors a d help out. Most people talk but what did they have done so far to help? It's easy to critisis other's many people where many people where happy he came thru.
Nah, he doesn't care what people have to say on social media, but he just HAS to go on every network venue he can to answer social media criticism. Liar!
hotties3v3n I don't go to the church but I know people who do! And they are working around the clock helping people and have been while they themselves have water crisis to deal with in their own homes. You critics as stupid as ever for believing this garbage and disrespectful. Hugely and others are on social media spreading this lie about these church volunteers because you have some grudge against Joel. This is so insulting to the volunteers and staff who have been there since the day the water receded helping people. People (volunteers) need time 1) safely travel through flooded streets 2) to mobilize and get organized to help the masses. 3)take care of the water issues the church had. As I watch these idiots ranting about this church and it's volunteers as they themselves are sitting in a chair in front of a camera to get a RU-vid video lie out to people who are sitting in front of their smartphone or computer criticizing the efforts of church volunteers while truthfully those critics are the ones that should be hanging their head in shame because they're the ones who are really doing nothing but sitting around spreading gossip and lies. It is almost as disrespectful as US soldiers who put their lives on hold to serve their country and come home to appreciative people who have no idea about serving anyone but themselves.
PEACE 1 glad you asked, we have family there! Church volunteers aren't trained first responders, and at their church they were told to stay put safety at home till the storm is over and if your not dealing with your own home disaster then come help. I just am looking at these terrible comments and thinking that these people commenting must be clueless or just hateful. They told me that Lakewood is doing a wonderful job, and truly they are victims too. This is unwarranted criticism and shallow. Hope you will help educate the people you come in contact with. It's unbelievable how a rumors can become fact for some people.
Wonderfully said, they are volunteers who are not obligated to do anything and have their own homes in a mess. People who are criticizing are people who need to go show us they can do a better job. God Bless the Church
Jesus said sell all you have give to the poor. It is harder for a Rich man to enter into Heaven than the Camel to pass through the eye of a needle. What does Mr. Olsteen say?
He's a false teacher! A prosperity preacher who gladly takes MILLIONS from his constituents and only caved in helping people once he was SHAMED to do so!!! A long firey eternity is waiting for Joel and the other prosperity preachers!
Why is everybody getting mad now ? Don't you know this is the "god" who you all have been "donating" to for years ? 😂 if this doesn't wake you up and see the reality of religious institutions you're going to have a very difficult life
No joel, you did not do the right thing. You had to use your millions to house those people, and you want it ALL for yourself. Matress Mac is one of the few Christians alive in the 21 Century. Matreess Mac, saw a need, deployed his trucks, and went out to the poorest of the poor, and he housed them on an $8,000 Couch, gave them three square meals a day. You, Joel were waiting to hear form the City? Are you F'ing kidding me? There is NO comparison between you and Matress Mac. You cannot hold a candle to him. I don't know why God is letting you get away with all of this.
Kathryn Briley ...Big Mac Mattress isn't the Pastor of 50,000 people: He has no other responsibilities. Isn't helping 50,000 enough for one man to do, you Slave Driver.
Cheap Sunglasses-No, I did not ay he is supposed to live on $50,000 a year! I think a networth of 60 million dollars is unconsciable for soemone supposedly proclaiming the gospel! Bernie madoff is rotting in jail for 150 years, and these people are scamming people in plain sight. I take issue with that. Nobody caresthey're getting away with it, that I get, and it's a shame!
Kathryn Briley ...Where are your reading skills? I said There are 50,000 Members in his Church. You are such a Dingbat you don't even know what you are mad about. I feel for you Joel - ignorant folks are hating on you.
My reading skills are fine. Your comment was ambiguous. You begin talking about Mattress Mac, and alluding to Joel, and calling me a slave master. Whatever. You were not clear! You're an obvious liberal.
Rock on Joel! Continue to preach and be a blessing people! Those people are just HATERS and they think they're BETTER than you but they're full to the BRIM of crap!
people just want an excuse to get on Pastor Joel. He does sooo much but he's not Jesus he can never do enough oh wait... that's right they talked badly about Jesus too.
Touchdown girl.you are so right.the shame game is on joel Osteen and his wife. They are also hating Tyler Perry for giving donation To help.lots of terrible malice by men and women of color on tyler.we are all.people.we need go come together.god bless you and Osteen and mr.perry.my song for all you haters. Is love train by ojays.touchdown you be safe.bless you.good to see pureness and love.
poor man he is rich thanks to poor people that are desperate enough to listen to whatever preacher tells them in exchange of money so he buys an other mansion, poor guy
Now we hear he has armed guards and not letting people in unless they need shelter. what if people found shelter with friends or family and need supplies well sounds they can not have any. This is just getting worse. I do believe that God Almighty is exposing Joel Osteen and that He is not happy with this person leading his sheep astray by false gospel and using God's name to do it.
When the floods came how come you Jesus followers did not walk on the water to safety towards higher ground. I dont blame Jeol Obscene for not opening the doors of the Mega church too soon because he was not going to get compensated for damages and maintainence.
Mohammed Hosein flyback 2me Everyone knows you could do a better job than any of those church volunteers who had their own water crisis at home and as they made their way through the flooded streets of Houston to help others didn't make it there as soon as you think they should have. They have been there say and night since Tuesday Morning. ( truthfully don't have to be they are not a government agency held to state or voters standards ) they are there on ground zero and in the trenches, not sitting on their butts behind a smartphone or PC screen ridiculing their late start. You should go show them all how it should be done right. Probably thought you have no even lifted a pen to put to your checkbook and give to any organization helping the cause because none of them are worthy of your donation. It's easy to criticize when you make no contribution to help. What are you doing to help? Obviously more than these church volunteers are to be such a vibrant critic on performance and perfection
Harry Banda we need to be praying for Harvey victim's and Irma victims as well. They are the one's going through this storm, and have a long road ahead of them to recover and rebuild their lives..
He stated that the building had flooded before, they weren't prepared, they didn't have the staff in place. It's easy to criticize when you're not the one handling the logistics or taking the heat if anything goes wrong. People need to understand that there's more to making decisions than acting impulsively.
If I remember correctly from what he said in another interview, he said that it had flooded before they got the flood gates, back before they bought it when it was still used as a stadium. He wanted to make sure the flood gates wouldn't fail, and apparently it was much safer for people to be outside or in a building without flood-gates than inside his building. I'd say it has to do with fear of lawsuits. Better they get hurt outside than take the risk of them coming to harm inside his church, where he may be held accountable for them, the thinking goes.
how many Christians went to a mosque asking for help, how many imams told Christians they where welcome? do a story on that. I dont know what joel did or didnt do, but hes better than any muslim. I dont have faith in any man, dont worship any man, Christians have been attacked more than any other. Try to take care of your self first, and stop having faith in walmart, and the government. Read the Bible.
Ami Mendoza Yes we do need all the help we can get, but this man has one of the largest buildings in the Houston area and he refused to help until people say something. He deserves all this backlash. Screw him.
Katherine Casey I understand darling. Sending you guys prayers and positive vibes. My husband and me made a donation to the red cross and our company just sent over a container full of supplies. We are in Florida and lost our home to Hurricane Andrew, so we have first hand experiance on how devastating the situation is.. ❤🙏❤🙏❤
Every critic is someone who hasn't done anything themselves to measure up to much of anything. Criticizing volunteers from a chair behind a smartphone while the people of that church have been in the trenches on ground zero since Tuesday Morning. Don't you think people had their own messes at home to care for too before getting to Lakewood Church and joining in the organization to help. Go down to Houston and do a better job or shut up stupid critics. What are you doing to help???????
Only one thing needs to do Joel Osteen, according with Jesus Christ saying: to sell his house and ferraris and give all the money to the poorest in Houston.
It seems people are ready to attack his church, before they got there facts straight. Perfect opportunity for those who didn't care for him. You didn't prove your point, just your ignorance. 😭
I’m just gonna say what needs to be said here and what everyone else is afraid to say. I wonder exactly how many of these victims actually showed their thanks to God by going to church after they depended on the church to help them so much? I can guarantee you that there was more people at those doors who were needing help from the flood than those who actually show up every Sunday morning to give God thanks. I bet that number is just astounding. That’s how it is. When people are in need, they all of a sudden want to cry out to God for help and the number of people who we’re practically knocking down those church doors was extremely high in statistics. Opposed to when it comes to actually getting up every Sunday morning and going to give thanks to God for providing that help. That number I can assure you all, is at an all time low. They only seek Gods help when they’re in need, but then claim “they don’t have time” to get up and got to church to give him thanks when he provides that help.
Sorry Pastor and Wife, They and their church (building) comes before God's children. It was a good things this happen, now we see the real him and her....Change Pastor you lovers of man, and "NOT" God. Christianity in the book and not in their heart. This is what they're showing and have proven themselves as hustlers of God's word.
I Love Joel and his family and remember before you judge them, take a good look into the mirror!!!!! A person can only do so much to help others while the takers keep taking!!! I stopped being a people pleaser when I became a Jesus pleaser!!!! Prayers for all the head hunters!
I honestly feel he didn't have to do anything at all . Who gonna fix and repair/replace everything after people leave? It's still a business and a church who gonna foot the bill for the utilities? Charity is not thought of in this way and people need be aware of it . You know also people are gonna try to steal from him or I should say his church if you want to call it a church.
Why didn't GOD protect your church from the flood? Why didn't he part the waters so that people could be safe and sheltered in YOUR church? Could it be your not as close to GOD as you speak? Why has he forsaken thee! It's obvious! You SPEAK you do not PREACH! And you line your pockets with ill gotten gains! For SHAME! 😢
OLSTEEN STOP TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE MESS YOU MADE. SAFETY ISSUES??? ARE YOU SERIOUS! OLSTEEN HOSTS SHOWS ALL THE TIME IN HIS "CHURCH" WHAT ABOUT THOSE TIME? WERE THERE NO SAFETY ISSUES THEN.
Hey girl bless you..just to encourage you to leave the man of God alone that is not your job to judge Joel and his family let God deal we Joel and you go and do something good for your family enjoy your day.......
Omi He didn't need a supernatural vision; he needed only to watch the weather reports. I knew a HUGE storm was coming and I'm nowhere near Texas. Why didn't he know?
Good God what kind of people are these critics of church volunteers who are trying to help people in this absolutely tragic time? Slow to start or not, the volunteers do have to make it out of their homes thru flooded streets to get to the church and organize the effort. I suggest you hate filled people to shut down your life and head to Huston so you can show us all what a wonderful person you are and how thing should be done. Your typing trash and tough while these church volunteers have been working day and night since 8/29 Tuesday Morning. What have you been doing since then besides pretending your some expert analyst. Are you sure your not just someone with psychological self esteem issues and fault finding others makes you feel good? Or perhaps you have some hatred for this Joel Olsteen whom you have never met. Ironically you blame others for the worlds problems but are certainly a part of the problems yourself.
People shouldn't criticise the Osteens for delivering 'motivational' style sermons loosely based on the Bible. They deliver that style because it's what is currently in highest demand. They are simply catering to people's needs. People have changed, society has changed over the past few decades and the spiritual/psychological needs of people has changed. The reason Lakewood church is so popular is precisely because they have adapted to these changing needs. Don't criticise them for giving people what they want.
May God Continue to bless Joel Osteen and his congregation. Things of this nature take time and preparation. I don't believe his hearts intention would be to deny the needs of flood victims. The Government and President aren't under this much attack concerning the flood and perhaps could be doing more also.
Truly Kelter Stone the governor already took measures for the people. His "link" to help donate money goes to his church/ he has the biggest areana and didn't open it until backlash from a video showing no flood at all. He claims safety issues BUT he hosts shows ALL the time in that areana. What about those safety issues!!!
Ray F Hi Ray! It is being said that this is thee worst storm of its kind in over 1,000 years. The weather predictions greatly underestimated its impact and yet the death toll is still somehow far less than Katrina. On a social and political level the ball was dropped somewhere because residents should have had designated safe houses ahead of time. The city just didn't think it would be this bad. I agree that as a pastor his doors should have been open but there's proof of flooding on his property and like I said before this stuff takes preparation. I'm wondering of all the people judging him... How many have given time, money, and personal resources to help the people in need? Joel is not the problem and please be careful how you speak about a proven man of God. - Truly
Ray F I don't go to the church but I know people who do! And they are working around the clock helping people and have been while they themselves have water crisis to deal with in their own homes. You critics as stupid as ever for believing this garbage and disrespectful. Hugely and others are on social media spreading this lie about these church volunteers because you have some grudge against Joel. This is so insulting to the volunteers and staff who have been there since the day the water receded helping people. People (volunteers) need time 1) safely travel through flooded streets 2) to mobilize and get organized to help the masses. 3)take care of the water issues the church had. As I watch these idiots ranting about this church and it's volunteers as they themselves are sitting in a chair in front of a camera to get a RU-vid video lie out to people who are sitting in front of their smartphone or computer criticizing the efforts of church volunteers while truthfully those critics are the ones that should be hanging their head in shame because they're the ones who are really doing nothing but sitting around spreading gossip and lies. It is almost as disrespectful as US soldiers who put their lives on hold to serve their country and come home to appreciative people who have no idea about serving
Ray F - so he hosts shows in the arena when a hurricane is expected? LOL LOL LOL There is a blog on the church's website which has been up for DAYS, saying that they were teaming up with Samaritan's Purse to help in ANY way they could, when they could. Funny how people who cry "separation of church and state" then want the CHURCH to help in a crisis. They are under NO OBLIGATION to do so. It is out of the goodness of their hearts that they do ANYTHING to help and if you check out Joel Osteen's past record you will see that when he was in a different facility he opened up his church then, as he is doing now!
deyo james FUCK THAT GUY! HE HAS A LINK TO HELP AND DONATE BUT IT'S ALL GOING TO OLSTEEN CHURCH WEBPAGE. USING A TRAGEDY AS A WAY TO MAKE MONEY............ HMMMMM ACTUALLY THAT'S PRETTY SMART.