Sue Klebold, the mother of Dylan Klebold one of the shooters in the Columbine High School shooting, sat down with KDKA's Kristine Sorensen for an exclusive interview.
Me too. I have her book. She is not to blame for what her son did. She should not be punished by everyone. This has been the hardest on her and she probably blames herself the hardest.
i doubt she will find peace, but i wish her peace too. All the talking in the world will not bring back the dead slaughered victims, I feel compassion for them all, the most.
@@pamelajackson2383 God is able to give her peace, if she asks, believes, and trusts Him for it. It is determined only by her faith. There's always hope!!! God is greater than the worst things that can ever happen to us.
@@deborahwilliamson5655 i respectfully disagree with you, due to the fact that many people don't even believe in God....she may not be a believer, we just don't know. Bringing religion into this doesn't really solve much. Personally, I don't know if anyone or anything can help the trauma that happened at Columbine. It's one of the worst crimes I can think of.
@@pamelajackson2383 I respect your right to disagree. Notice I said if she asks God, believes, and trusts Him for peace He will give it to her. It isn't likely that a non-believer will have that conversation with God. Yes, faith in the God of Heaven can heal anything!!!
You can tell instead of laying down and wallow in self pity she went out and educated herself to help others it’s the best outcome in such a horrible situation
She's doing the right thing. Trying to give back to society, heal and be healed at the same time. Trying to see the light in all that... If there is such thing. Just my humble impression.
I love that everyone in the comments is being so respectful and loving towards her. She was a victim of this too. Her son was very sick. I pray for the other victims parents and families. I pray for her and the mother of the other kid. Hey does anyone know if the other kids mother or father ever spoke out?!
No Eric's parents have yet to come out and speak. For Dy!an had he not met Eric I think he would have been a loving kid and possibly a loving parent. I think Eric was a very bad influence on Dylan
@@annetteslife I respectfully disagree. Dylan knew the difference between right and wrong, so I believe he had something seriously wrong with him to be able to manipulate, plan and carry out the horror and he is accountable. I do not believe Dylan's mother could have prevented who he became. I do not agree with everything Sue says, but I do not blame her at all. I hope she realizes that not everything nor everyone is within our control and she should not take on the blame the belongs to her son.
@@annetteslife actually, this isn't true. yes of course i think the situation would've been so much better if dylan and eric weren't as close as they were, however columbine was dylan's idea and he didn't plan on doing it with eric in the first place.
She aged so much since she did her first interview 3 years ago. I hope she’s doing fine regarding the circumstances. Nobody will ever understand what she went through. I have so much respect for her.
@@lenafleischmann2490 it is sad yes I feel for her I don't blame her at all for what Dylan did she's not him .but saying she "aged" is just petty to say of course she aged its been 20 years since columbine. Yes stress and plus she had breast cancer have some respect.🙄
Rebel Jean90 dude... your comment makes no sense whatsoever, you might wanna read mine again and understand that I was far from being petty. I’m not trying to insult her by saying she aged. So please shut the fuck uuuuup and get lost.
Not only does she have to live with the fact that her son killed 13 people and then himself, she also had to realize at some point that that tragedy has influenced the minds of other mass school shooters. i really feel for this woman. she is so strong.
@@kennethbuenviaje1217 because typing 13 individual names is inconvenient. If i told you 2 names, and asked to repeat them 20 seconds later you would most likely be able to repeat them. Now, if i gave you 13 and asked the same thing, could you do it? Use common sense and stop assuming people admire the killers or disregard the victims. YOU are part of the problem.
@@kennethbuenviaje1217 I can name all of the dead victims and most of the seriously injured. By others I mean 13 dead, dozens physically injured and probably 1000s of emotionally traumatized people. I'm not going to name every one of them.
I wish those two boys Eric and Dylan could know what they ended up putting their parents through. Sue is the only one who’s been speaking out, I guess the others couldn’t deal with it. They’ve been sued by several families, they went through possibly losing their home, bankruptcy, losing everything, everyone hated them and saw them as villains but I think Eric Harris dad has some fault cuz he wasn’t in his sons life, and excused his sons bad behavior just because he’s a boy
I still wonder what eric’s parents think about the shooting and him to this day. It’s been 21 years and they have never said anything other than sending out a condolence letter for the victims days after the massacre along w the klebolds
@DSW22 eric was more on the psychopathic side, he didn’t care for others he was very manipulative even detectives reported watching the tapes and dylan would look at eric for approval almost like he needed to feel wanted by everyone.
I also remember that there was a tape recording where Dylan said "Hey Mom; I gotta go. I just want to apologize for any crap this may bring; just know I'm going to a better place. Goodbye."
If you read the basment tape transcripts you see that they knew. They say things like " you better not arrest or harass any of our friends... They had nothing to do with this." " Sorry mom and dad for all the sh*t you're gonna go through. Leave them alone... They knew nothing." Also yeah Erik cries on the tape when he thinks of his parents and says he has been avoiding them so itl be easier. Also Dylan says "bye mom!!! I'm sry for what ur gunna have to go through." So they knew 100% and still made the conscious decision to do it. They should've waited a few years and then saw what their college life was like... O well R.I.P. everyone and the parents too.
@@gemmaraine I remember watching the story break on the news when I was around 11 or 12 here in Canada. My mom said something I never really understood until I was older but it applies here. She said, "those poor parents." When I asked her what she meant, she said that the parents of the shooters would be blamed for their sons' actions, when they had no control over them. The parents and their families by extension would be demonized the rest of their lives. And that wasn't fair to them. I have nothing but respect (and some sadness of course) for Sue and her bravery in coming forward to advocate for mental health. That can't be easy for her.
@@mish375 you're absolutely right, I do feel some admiration for Sue and definitely some sadness. She's had the courage to come forward when all she wanted to do is hide away. I hope she can find some happiness through all of this
Sue is facing up to what happened and trying to understand what drove her son to do what he did. She has obviously done a lot of work to help parents look out for signs in their own children. I admire her for speaking out.
Several times in Sues book she addresses thing that Dylan did and she just sloughed it off as teenage angst. Or he'll be alright once he goes to college. Her son broke into a van and stole electronics, he was caught drinking alcohol(which his drug dealer brother have him), and he graffitied a locker at school. Shouldn’t she have been keeping her eye on him, shouldn’t she have put him into therapy when he did fuck shit? She didn’t give a shit about him I don’t know why she is so shocked he went on to do this tragedy when she ignored his thuggish behavior and didn’t discipline him.
Reading her book now, and I highly recommend it. She's intelligent and insightful. Her bravery and caring is something I admire. She could easily have hidden away for good.
One could argue she has been through one of the worst tragedies.. she not only lost her son that day but has to live with the pain and confusion he left in his wake. She is strong and I really hope people are not still blaming her.
How would YOU react if your child killed 13 people and wounded 27 others in such a violent, hateful way? I have never seen any real empathy from Sue...and I think that's what the problem was. She never mirrored EMPATHY...so Dylan never learned EMPATHY for other people. Sorry, my opinion is she just seems so very COLD to me...ICE COLD. No, Sue is right, LOVE is NOT enough you have to model EMPATHY even if it SOMETIMES takes pain to make a child understand other people's pain...that's what you have to do.
I could listen to her talk all day. I don’t know that if I were in her shoes I’d be this strong and willing to share my experience. The fact that she isn’t hiding out and never speaking about this shows she really cares. It’s good to see she’s learning about suicide prevention as well. I hope she’s doing well. Such a humble person.
I love this sweet woman and I am so proud of her for what she has done and is still doing. She made it her lifes work to try to undo what her son did. I feel so bad for her. Bless her heart. She is in my prayers every night.
I've watched so many of this mother's video clips. As a school psychologist, I recognize how vulnerable students are to not fitting in; she lived it. Dylan's mother always makes me think of what adults should be looking for in our often disconnected youth. We can't ignore this anymore.
As a fellow educator, this is very well said. We can have all the training in the world and still not know what kids are feeling. Are they fitting in? We won’t know. We can *try* to understand but are limited on our abilities sometime due to the system. I concur that we cannot ignore this anymore. It’s been almost 22 years and many school shootings later... *things need to change*
I love her admirable story about her son and his victims. She’s a wonderful mom trying her best for her son. Forgiveness and kindness is what Rachel Scott wanted.
I've always said if you don't care about your life...you care nothing for other's lives... This woman's strength is amazing...God bless all of the victims .
One of my friends in the furry fandom actually works with one of the survivors of Columbine. There is no question in my mind what Dylan and Eric did to their schoolmates on that day in 1999 was heartbreaking, gut-wrenching, and undeserving, this is one of those cases where the parents of a mass murderer shouldn’t be the first to fully blame for their loved one’s actions, especially if their loved one has taken their own lives in the process. I applaud people like her for not only becoming an advocate for mental health awareness as well as suicide prevention, but to also understand that no parent is perfect and that she also cares about the families and friends of the victims their loved ones killed to this day.
Had Eric and Dylan been arrested and tried for the shooting at Columbine High School; I think that both of the boys would have faced thirteen charges of First Degree Murder and twenty-one counts of Assault with a Deadly Weapon. Dylan would have likely received thirteen sentences of Life in Prison with no Parole plus twenty-four years because of the simple fact that Dylan was a minor at the time of the shooting and therefore could not be sentenced to death. Eric on the other hand would have been given a sentence of Death by Lethal Injection as he was eighteen and legally considered an adult. Plus; Colorado was a Death Penalty state in 1999 and it wasn't until 2019 that Colorado abolished the Death Penalty.
Nothing but love toward her. I couldn't even imagine being in her shoes. She has handled the situation so gracefully, though I am sure it was difficult. Prayers for all the victims' souls, including Eric and Dylan's soul.
Sue is amazing, and such a strong woman. She too has been through absolute hell, yet she fought through it all and still tries to help others. Respect.
What a horrible tragedy and burden this woman has had to shoulder. Her courage and compassion are clearly evident in her honest and engaging manner. She's a woman on a mission of mercy. God bless her and all the victims of the Columbine tragedy.
Hearing her come forward to speak of her experiences and the pain she had to endure following the tragedy is one of the most daring things a loving parent could do. And her eagerness to share it to help others is remarkable and worth grasping onto. She is indeed a strong and brave woman and I feel so much for her. I could never ever pull through being in her place. May god bless her, the victims’ families, the survivors, and everyone else who was affected.
It's ironic that the parents of alot of the victim's have been unsympathetic, shown little to no empathy to this woman as though she were directly involved, expecting her to act inhuman and feel guilty about mourning her son.
I think some of the parents and even the victims at the school have been supportive of her in private. They're afraid of the stigma if they support her publicly
They are all forever tied together, like it or not. Some of the parents of the victims did have some misguided anger in the beginning, which is understandable.@@carnival3429
Sweet Sue..such a wonderful lady..it breaks my heart some were so cruel to her 😞 she is so intelligent..speaking with her would be an honor. She said she had a premonition when Dylan was born that he would bring sorrow to the world..eerie
Let's not exaggerate, he said it just to create a sort of "mysticism" when he was born he had no premonition, it wasn't the antichrist dylan ... what you said he said so much to say.
@@breakingtuber4378 Im not sure who "he" is? I am speaking of Sue Dylan's mother..and Sue said this herself in an interview that can be viewed here on RU-vid. She said exactly what I said..she said that feeling came over her like a huge bird flying over her..I cannot say whether she exaggerated..it is possible she had that premonition..people have premonitions all the time. Of course Dylan wasn't the "antichrist" but he did indeed bring sorrow to a lot of people just as she said..all the people he killed had large families who loved them and friends..and he brought sorrow to his own family.
@Jessica Pazo yes exactly! I remember the night before 9/11 happened my friends and I were all a on 3 way call discussing what we were going to wear the next day lol and I had a horrible feeling of doom and I told my friends I felt like sometjing bad was going to happen...then years later I was dating someone..we were life long best friends and he was my neighbor..we finally confessed to each other we were in love and started dating..I went on vacation right before school started back and I had a horrible feeling while I was swimming in the hotel pool then that night at like 1am I woke up sick to my stomach and just felt off but I went back to sleep..the next morning I found out he died in a car accident right around 12:50 that night..energy is a real thing and our bodies can sense it I think good or bad
Wonderful interview!! I absolutely adore Sue!! She’s such an intelligent, kind, graceful human being & I’m so glad she eventually came out & started talking cause she’s already helped so many!! ...It really goes to show not to be judgemental & make assumptions about people... I remember before she ever came out, people automatically assumed the parents must’ve been rough, horrible people that must’ve been totally uneducated & walk the streets throwing beer bottles at passing cars for fun or something, despite what people who knew them were saying like the Browns for example who always spoke so highly of the Klebolds. They are so far removed from what people assumed & I think people make such strong automatic assumptions & judgements like that as a way of separating themselves so they can feel like it couldn’t possibly happen with their child “cause I’m not that way”. I live in Australia & am far from thriving financially so it’s virtually impossible but meeting & sitting with Sue privately without cameras has been on my bucket list for years. She’s such a powerful woman with so much intelligence, strength & so much to offer the world. Her aura just beams goodness & she’s taken a tragedy, something indescribable especially considering the position she’s in with it being her son, something that can’t be changed but she’s chosen to try to make some good come out of it, create some positive change & help others. That’s probably terrible wording but hopefully others get what I mean, I’m sure I’m not the only one. I think she’d be amazing in Politics too, such a sensible, compassionate & genuine head on her shoulders. My household has so much love for her!! 🤗🌈💜
Saw couple of interviews. She is really a victim too. I always tell my friends, what you see of your kids inside your house is not what they really are. The love parents have for their kids most if the time is very ill,
What an intelligent, articulate, respectful woman Sue Klebold is. I can't imagine having been in her shoes, or being the parent of someone who changed/took so many lives in such a horrific, evil way. We love our children like no other humans on earth, but how do you reconcile their behavior (and the lasting consequences) with the love you will always feel towards them? She's obviously immersed herself in learning how to explain the things that could have been going on with Dylan at the time, and she's using that knowledge to prepare others for situations with their own kids that may be similar. She could have become a defensive, bitter woman, contributing nothing in the aftermath of this school shooting, but that's not what she's done. Much respect for Sue Klebold and her graceful speaking engagements. May they be as helpful to her as they are for those listening. You're a better person than me. Much love and success to you moving forward!
Not many people would have the courage and strength to talk in public and wants to help other people when they would have been a mother of a sh00ter. God bless you mrs klebold. You have a good heart and are a wonderful human beeing.
Steping forward to talk about what happened in her position is such a hard journey. I admire her a lot. Specially for talking about brain health to prevent future cases.
She isn’t qualified to be a mental health “advocate” in the slightest. And her book is full of lies, even Randy brown(who was her friend and knew Dylan) has admitted her book is full of lies.
I felt grateful personally that she mentioned the need, not to "fix" someone but to listen and hear someone. People sometimes give her a tough time, what a shame because she is just suppling what she has understanding of to help try to prevent tragedy and to supple an understanding for those who might resonate with her own situation somehow. I like her very much and am grateful for her care, and I pray for her peace of mind and those of others seeking to bring some light out of darkness
The thing that’s so sad about dylan, is the shooting was already planned 1 to 2 years before the shooting, and the way he went his last few years knowing he was going to die, going to collage visitations knowing he’s never gonna set foot in there since he’s going to be dead. I feel so hard for Dylan, Eric too but he was a lost cause, Dylan could have been saved.
That’s the misconception of Eric is that he was a lost cause but he actually was not a sociopath or a psycho believe it or not. They both fed of eachother and both needed eachother to do this and neither one of them were misguided. Although I do actually sympathize with Sue and Dylan and feel that they could of changed.
@@RapidStrikerGaming Dylan was worse, Eric looked meaner but he did have empathy and was just another sad teenager at heart but all Dylan cared about was dying and he wasn't fussed about who he took with him.
Look up "Collumbine with Nate" His friend Nate says " They're talking bout a parole here in a few months and we will get out of here , can you belive it??" Dylan pauses and responds " ...... No I Don't" It's pretty creepy that he knew he was gonna die in a few weeks.
I hope that Eric and Dylan and the people theyve killed i hope that they are together and forgive and i hope others forgive what has happened and I hope that the victims family find peace and forgiveness and I hope that people will love Susan klebold
I hope you are doing okay Sue. It's foolish to think people could blame you for what your child done, that's wrong. I think you are a great person. I wish you well❤
Yes completely foolish, parents are never responsible for the children's actions, you almost never see that happen in the law books. I mean that's ridiculous, how where u suppose to know that bomb was real??? #team sue
Sue Klebold A very beautiful woman ❤️ She sheems so nice och calm white a lote of love ❤️ I wish i Know her Its so strange and sad that her son was a School schooter 😮 😢 (Sorry for my bad english)
I cannot imagine what this mom has gone through and continues to deal with. Insurance companies do not want to pay for serious mental illness and are good at finding ways to disqualify treatment or shorten it.
I really hurt for her. What a strong woman. I don’t know if I would have been as brave as she is! She seems like a very good person and my heart goes out to her.
It's easy to hide stuff from your parents, I'm not surprised at all she didn't know. She even said Dylan was doing normal things before he did what he did. Must've been a very traumatizing 20+ years and counting for her, but I'm glad she's a suicide prevention advocate. To hopefully prevent the next suicide mission.
Bless her heart, she has become so wise after this tragedy. I'm sure she was wise before, but her insight & calmness is to be valued & admired. This was a wonderful interview also..."old time" interviewing...no side taken, no disrespectful questions allowed Mrs. K to share her views & lessons. Thank you.
sue is very right when she says we shouldnt be afraid to listen to people's suicidal thoughts. i have never been able to ask for help properly about my depression and trauma because people get uncomfortable, they dont want to know that these things actually are real and happen. people always prefer to ignore and that makes it easy to feel excluded out of humanity itself, thus leading to complete separation from peers and desensitization which i think caused them to kill so effortlessly.
Sue think about this please: If a Mom gives birth to 6 kids, each child is different in their own way. You are the same "Mom" to all of them, but they will each have their own personalities, moods, and views on things. You were a good Mom!❤❤
She is a beautiful soul. I hated that back in the day when it was about "good and evil", when its about mental health and stability. If Healthcare was more available these things wouldn't happen as often as they do. When coaches at school condone and even celebrate toxic and violent behaviors in boys, and America has a culture of violence this will stay the norm. We all need to start talking to each other, and being honest about everything instead of pushing things aside with fake spiritual or paranormal cop outs like "oh he had demons in him"...this woman deserves so many hugs, and she is doing the right thing by spreading information and trying to give back
yawn. it is NOT about "mental illness"...that is a pathetic but popular excuse. 99.9999% of people with mental illness never hurt anyone. There is no link between mental illness and violence and murder. Only in around 0.00001% of cases, when a person is extremely psychotic and really think they have to kill to save the world...but those cases are EXTREMELY rare. These two idiots might have had depression or anxiety, but that is totally separate from what they did....they were evil scum.
@@pamelajackson2383 Not only is she more than qualified with what she's learned over the past 20 years but what she's been through personally. If not her, then nobody
I respect her a lot. I think she's really onto something. Simply put, someone who is self-destructive who is also vindictive has nothing left to lose. She's doing important work raising awareness. Both suicide and these mass casualty events can be prevented.
Marilyn Manson did the one thing that no one else did. He went to Columbine to talk to the survivors and listen to what they had to say. Whereas Eric's mother didn't even engage with the survivors or their families.
Nothing excuses what her son and his friend did, but - she lost her son that day, too. Her son was responsible for what happened, yes, absolutely. But it's not her fault. The world and dealing with mental health was so different in 1999 than it is now. I feel terrible for this woman. However... Why is this still happening?! Almost 25 years after this horrific tragedy, and things like this continue to happen. How many more children (young, innocent children who are just starting their lives) and innocent adults (teachers and bystanders trying their hardest to save the aforementioned children) have to be gunned down in their classroom before this ends?! How many more Christmases and graduations and religious coming of age ceremonies have to be observed without your child or your parent - because of a crazed teenager or young adult with a military style weapon?!
eric's parents never spoke about him or what happened, they just disappeared. unfortunately the only info we can get about him are his journals and the survivors' testimony
One day before this interview, it was actually a school attack in Finland The guy who did went to attack with a sword He also had a gun with him, but he never used it He tried to kill himself "suicude by cop" 1 person died and 10 were injured in the attack (Sorry for my bad english)
Mi dispiace moltissimo per Sue, è molto coraggiosa a fare sempre queste interviste e interventi parlando ogni volta di suo figlio e di quello che ha fatto. Penso che quello che stia facendo sia bellissimo ma posso solo immaginare il dolore che prova ogni volta. Ho visto altre sue interviste e ogni volta che parla di Dylan piange e a me si spezza il cuore in due. Posso solo immaginare il trauma, il dolore che ha affrontato e sta affrontando tutt'ora e anche l'odio che molta gente prova per lei (ingiustificato, secondo me). Non penso riuscirà mai a elaborare del tutto e superare quella tragedia ma mi auguro con tutto il cuore che stia meglio e sia riuscita, in qualche modo, ad andare avanti ed essere più serena. Lo spero sia per lei, che per i genitori di Eric che per i famigliari delle 13 vittime e per tutti coloro che hanno sofferto a causa di quel massacro.
It's not her fault, my heart has always gone out to them. I live in co and so many people blamed and hated them, but this could happen to anyone. Teenagers are very good at hiding stuff. My heart goes out to all the families and victims at columbine, I can't even imagine how terrified their last moments were. 😢
This woman is not to blame! For all those dumb people that blamed her and the stupid MEDIA, (sorry for that comment but it is true! .) This woman cannot and should not have to face the brunt of any of her sons actions. She LOST HER SON TOO. His decisions and actions were so horrible.. but put yourself in her situation. She is still alive yes, but she died that day too. She got a chance to rebuild her life..but can you imagine her sadness?, trauma?, and utter despair? We need to all be more forgiving. To me this woman is giving back.. and think of this would you have the strength to speak out? To change, to advocate for change? IF YOU HAVE NOT READ her book.. BUY it! I will always defend this woman. She is a fighter!
