The main thing I take from this is how respectful Kirk was. He asked questions to get to know them better. And didn’t try to ask leading questions to get some sort of story from their family like most interviewers try to do. I love that Kirk is a genuine interviewer and just wants to hear stories of how God is working. It’s honestly so refreshing.
@@alejandraalejandra4700 ok. And she doesn’t have to share everything about her family. She can share what she wants to. It doesn’t sound like she is outright lying. If she is holding info back, that’s ok. It’s her life. She can share what she wants and she can keep back what she doesn’t want to share. I have massive respect for people who don’t share everything with the media. Good job!!!
Thank you for this Mr Cameron. Ginger has done a God honoring job of respecting her family while explaining how IBLP led her family into some dark places. I’m tired of hearing how bad the Duggar parents were, according to the media. We all sin and fall sort of the glory of God. Praise Jesus that He works through the muddle to keep us close to Him.
I totally agree of tired of hearing how bad the Duggars are! Jinger and Jeremy are a very sweet and adorable couple. I think it is great how God brought them together and how God is working through them to show others Christ. It could be a family member needing to see and hear about the Lord so they draw closer to God. God uses all kinds of our circumstances to draw us closer to God and to draw others closer to God if we keep an open mind, heart and Love for Christ first in our lives. Everything and everyone on this earth has a reason to work into God’s plan but we must be willing to let Jesus in. Like that picture Jesus standing at the door knocking. If you notice there is no door handle on Jesus side. That’s because you have to open the door from inside your heart and let Jesus in! If you are not sure which picture I am talking about look up Jesus knocking at the door. Look at it closely. No door handle on Jesus side! God can use Jinger to help reach a lot of people rather in her family, friends, or people who watch their show! There needs to be more uplifting not down grading in this world!
Bill Gothard teachings are harmful dangerous and damaging I'm so proud of Ginger for not letting go of her faith but seeing Christ for who he truly is I hope the rest of her family can do the same and get out of that mess
Her parents were misled and sucked into those teachings, but I believe their hearts were in the right place and still gave those kids a loving home and were decent people. I don’t think you throw the baby out with the bath water.
🍯 🍵, I, too, recognize the harm of false teaching, but it has bern overkill. It pains me to see how the parents have been maligned when they have been decent, hard-working, dedicated parents.
Yes, and I would love to hear some gratitude from the girls. The mistakes their parents made were mistakes any of us could have made. They don't seem to recognize the pluses they had growing up.
This is awkward to watch. It feels like Jinger and Jeremy are still afraid to just speak their minds without fear of what others may say/think. Jeremy keeps looking at Jinger for approval with his answers, and she is super hesitant in her wording.
I so agree with what Kirk says about “leaving and cleaving.” Truly believe my husband and I are doing so well because we got away from our families and friends and focused solely on each other. We both have WONDERFUL families, but knew we had to make our own family. Celebrating 8 years in a couple weeks!
I hunger to hear Jinger express love for her parents and appreciation for the homelife they provided for her, How I would loved to have had loving parents like that. I never hear the Duggar children give them the praise I think they deserve.
Yeah, how great it would be to have parents who brainwash you, and allow your brother to molest you and face no consequences, then stick up for him ! I suggest that you read Jill’s book if you want to see who their parents really are!
That's great she got out of the falsehood she grew up in, but she just traded one for another unfortunately. She is a calvinist, which is a false gospel. Do not emulate or look up to these deceptive famous people. Follow Jesus only.
“If we choose to sin we choose to suffer” I think Jinger has been getting away from that message from the IBLP and focusing more on the Love of Christ. As they should.
Great that she pulled away from the religion. But their life is not the norm. We cannot look up to those who live outside the norm and can live high on the hog.
i was such a huge fan of the duggars tv show that was on TLC; i’ve got her book “becoming free indeed”. jinger has been so brave having stepped it up to the plate speaking out about that IBLP cult the duggars were in when she was growing up, couldn’t be more prouder than i am especially now were jill has come forward doing the same thing but having heard her side of what all went on behind closed doors; i can’t wait to also start reading jill’s book when it comes out in january for ereader; thank goodness i’ve pre-ordered it. i personally litterarly couldn’t be more prouder than i’am of both jill and jinger coming out without fear speaking about the IBLP cult they were in. i can’t wait to read what jill has in her book and not only jingers book in which i currently have on my kindle ereader but can’t wait to read what jill has to say within her book too. this interview with jinger and jeremy was like a breath of fresh air. they are such a cute looking couple. thank you for this video; love these two! 🥰
I'm so proud of Jinger for standing up and getting out of that IBLP mess! Also really proud of her for growing and continuing to heal in her faith. It seemed like a wonderful couple, may God bless them richly!
Blaming doesn't work IBLP isn't the problem and blaming religion isn't the problem the problem is no genuine repentance and no clear salvation I would also say to be proud of her for ripping on IBLP when her parents are to blame is sickening They cared more about tv rating then trying to help josh and the girls Religion is always gonna lead astray The only true answer is Jesus Christ
So you think if you're rich that God has blessed you and my God you Christians on here...🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦 You don't publicly bash. I think God would have a problem with this??? All you're doing is stirring the pot and creating more chaos!! Chaos has a name grow up
@@countrygirl4362ull of caca country girl that's what I say too I knew I would side with my country girl!! From one country girl to ANOTHER!! 🤣♥️ I don't think publicly bashing your family is godly I can go on for hours about my family I will blow her book away I could never do it to my blood . Jesus made me pretty loyal... I don't care what they're like you know what I'm saying that's their deal?? 🤣 I really did learn to forgive them .. I love them I just don't like them?? Never leave your purse down or they'll steal everything you have?? 🤦🤣🤣🤣
@@k.popper2620no no don't you dare dismiss her popper..don't you dare!! WE'RE CHECKING YOUR ASS RIGHT ABOUT NOW YOU GUYS HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING TO FORGIVE SO BASICALLY YOU'RE UNGODLY...FULL OF CACA... EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH TURNS TO CACA... PUBLICLY BASHING WILL NOT HELP YOU HEAL... NICE TRY THOUGH
These kids are whining because they were not allowed to wear pants and couldn't watch tv! Oh boo hoo. They are now allowed to do whatever they want. The Bates were raised the exact same way and you dont seem them attacking their parents for it!
@nancyfarkas3592 just the fact that the parents kept what the oldest brother did to his sisters hush hush, is a reason to call out the parents. They protected the son but could care less about those girls.
Mr. Cameron, are you planning on having them on again? I would really like to hear Jinger talk more about her book and discuss her faith now as opposed to her faith when she was on the show. I really think she has a powerful message to share concerning the difference between true faith in Jesus Christ and a "rules based religion". There is a true difference between morality and Christianity. Individuals can be moral without a saving relationship in Jesus Christ. And that is the difference between life and death and really needs to be brought up. Thank you.
Her family was a sitcom , what choice did those children have for themselves. While their parents were and are still in a cult and filmed. To come fourth and speak out takes bravery.
Kirk, this was the most authentic two-way interview I have seen. I am so grateful you gave her space to just have a conversation about her life. Jinger has really been so respectful and God honoring in how she's pulled the veil from the IBLP. Thank you again!
Who is Jinger?.. Jinger said on CBN, "When we can view ourselves the way God made us then we can accept the unchangeable things in our lifes then we can love others thru Christ's love, we'll be able to relate to other people." I actually wrote this down because it help me be content with who I am and who God made me to be. Now I'm wondering why Jinger would say that if she didn't believe it. I really get worked up when I hear her dissing her family, it doesn't reflect good on our Christian faith.
It’s typical for young couples when they’re starting out to want to leave their families and strike out to sort of start out on their own. Especially if they felt that they were going to have a very challenging time trying to have the freedom to raise their own children the way they want to. But you lose a lot that way. We moved across the country to give our children a different upbringing than we had, and to be honest, it was not the wisest or most courageous choice. It would’ve been better to keep the family strong and stay together while BRAVELY standing on our convictions with or without our parents approval. It comes down to boundaries. If more young couples understood the principle of honoring their parents even if they disagree, it would be a stronger Christian society. You don’t have to obey your parents to honor them. And you also don’t need to separate your children from their grandparents to prove your authority in your family.
It can be repressive in a subconscious way when any kind of conflict is discouraged. That affects how children learn to distinguish their own emotions, learn how to express yourself and set boundaries when you’re told to stifle yourself. Conflict doesn’t have to mean contention or fighting. It can mean acknowledging differences calmly and working through and to an acceptable compromise.
@@naturefleur2062Have you ever watched the show? I was always surprised at how they would openly say how they didn’t like something/disagreed with a sibling and they did so respectfully. I think they all have very good people skills, speak their minds and are assertive.
@@savedbygrace6108 I have, thanks for asking. I’ve watched every episode of every season, every special, and all the Counting On episodes. I’m very familiar with the shows. I appreciate what TLC chose to show, and it seemed so uplifting and encouraging on the surface, but if you have educated yourself about IBLP and how deep the Duggar family was in it, their real teachings teach submission and subservience, and frown on any kind of conflict or boundary setting. The children are not allowed to speak up to their parents or older male siblings. The children were pressured into “behaving perfectly” in order to feel any measure of safety. They are very much coerced by fear and shame. Jinger wrote about this in her book. I recommend listening/reading it to learn more from her perspective. Shiny Happy People shows this more, as well, and if you were to look beneath the surface, you’ll see the ways seemingly well meaning people can have a profoundly damaging effect on children by using their children to gain popularity within their church culture and then compelling their children to keep their pain, trauma and other feelings and needs quiet. This is abuse. You also may not be aware, but the Duggar parents enabled their son to be around the siblings he abused after the abuses took place. The sisters never received appropriate counseling. Even when Josh was being tried, and eventually convicted of possession of child p*rnogrpaphy, they didn’t protect their daughter-in-law, daughters or grandchildren. They prioritized Josh so they could keep some semblance of a reputation intact. Sometimes adults may seem nice, but when anyone chooses to avoid accountability and instead fixate on making sure their reputation remains spotless, a lot of harm occurs to those who they overlook in the process of ensuring and securing their own position. This is wrong. Jill also wrote a book recently. She said in doing so, she felt she reclaimed her voice. When abusers are prioritized, victims fall silent and lose the sense that speaking up is possible or would even matter. The strength it took for these sisters to speak out wasn’t what they gained from their family life, it was despite what they experienced in their family life. This is the reality that Jill and Jinger themselves have publicly spoken about. I trust them more than anyone else’s opinion about how “nice” their upbringing was or how some other person thinks they had opportunities to speak up in their family. These women tell a different story, and it’s their own.
If you want to truly disentangle, modern-day churchianity IS NOT what we are reading in the Bible. I was in seminary when I saw the contradictions of what "the church" is teaching versus God's word. They are not the same thing. I withdrew never to look back. God's word is clear and taught by every prophet and our Messiah. No one said His word was "old" except some guy who titled part of our Bible that way. If you really want to come to Christ, then you have to believe Christ. He said, "If you want to enter life, keep the commandments." He said, "Repent or perish." He said, "Blessed are they that do the commands that they may have right to the Tree of Life." He said, "I know that His command leads to eternal life." He's not lying; it's what His Father said from the beginning and what is preached in the end. What we see today in our pagan churches, is not biblical truth. No one in the Bible ever said, "ask Jesus into your heart" for eternal life. No one ever said, "accept Jesus as Lord and Savior" for eternal life. No one ever said, "Salvation is free." No one ever said, "Fearing God is a bad thing." Do you know who says those things when they aren't in the Bible? Man. The modern day church. Jinger. Kirk. Preachers. And on and on and on.
I just started watching the Vuolo's on RU-vid and seeing some of Ginger's interviews. So I was excited to see them here with Kirk. "If we choose to sin, we choose to suffer." -Kirk Cameron
Jinger left a form of legalistic religion for another. Maybe John McArthur’s church is not a cult like IBLP, but it is very legalistic and I’m not sure it’s the True Gospel of Christ
Seems to me she has traded one cult for another. The superiority in her voice when she mentions not working in fast food?! What’s wrong with that Jinger? Making an honest living is well above scamming people. Shame on you.
The only reason they’re getting any publicity is because she was a Duggar. She’s not the only person on the planet to “break free” from a religious cult and “find herself” and what she now believes. She has turned her “traumatic upbringing” into a paycheck. She’s “so brave”. 😂😂
I think because him and his sister Candace use similar methods. They beat them if they leave their spot when they are babies. Teaches them to obey or be hurt physically. Eventually they don't need to do it anymore and the kids look so well behaved. It's kind of sick. Always creeped me out.
Yeah. It’s interesting. Her first response to everything. Not saying she hasn’t learned and grown from her life experiences but that’s just it. It was her life and normal for them. I appreciate how the 2 have grown but if you go back and watch Jinger and Jeremy. He wasn’t very patient and he was demeaning to her. Like I could hardly watch their RU-vid’s. To see the change in him/them now. You can tell she has been coached on how to respond. And yet I love her and her family for their truths. As they knew it. Which is everyone in life. No matter which sibling or family member has had their truths thrown out into the public. I actually feel sorry for all of the kids for having public parents that exacerbated their kids personal problems. And such is the media.
So nice to see Kirk Cameron, it's been years, his family is all grown.. Jinger & Jeremy great couple.. keep trusting in Jesus and you can't go wrong. Love this interview. Hallelujah🙏🏽🙌🏾❤
I've only just recently heard about this cult. Although I've watched 19 and counting for years I thought they were part of that quiverful thing. So apparently the Bates family are also part of this strange sect? Which I find so hard to believe because they do seem really happy and can I say normal Christians 🤷♀️
I mean if you were an unknown and had to work and worry about making ends meet...... Some of us are being persecuted and kicked off of platforms for being Christians.
The Bates children were raised the same way and you don't see them going on tv and complaining about it! So what they couldn't watch tv and had to wear dresses? That is calle life. They clearly turned out just fine so their parents didn't screw that up that badly. They are now old enough to do what they want. So shut up and live your life the way you want. Stop attacking your parents!
I respect everything she is expressing but I really feel she can focus on the platform she and the rest of the siblings were given and I believe God wanted to showcase them as they have been a blessing to many people.
Her healing isn't based on or conformed to her parents wants and needs and she needed to be out from under their thumbs to freely speak and walk through to her healing. She hasn't been disrespectful throughout her journey.
I don't think publicly bashing your family is godly in any way whatsoever I could say a million things about my life?? I'll blow her book right out of the water. . I don't believe in publicly bashing your family to make money???
@@joannetompkins7833 Yes and he said he did not make them court a guy if they didn't like them. These girls need to be thankful for what they had. They were not beaten, starved or anything. They turned out just fine.
I see so many cases of parents starving and abusing their kids in such a manner that is hard to even think that someone can do that to another person but the duggers daughters go around doing interviews because the parents made them wear long skirts and had rules. I am not defending the parents in any way but to keep talking about how bad they had its ridiculous. They never would've met their husbands. People love to hear them talk trash about their family.
True. I agree with you. Their parents are not saints. I think they wanted to protect their children from worldly sin the way they know how. None of these men would have given them a second look if they were not out on tv by their parents. Jinger and Jill are ungrateful daughters . Especially Jill. They think people love them because they interview them. They just want dirt about their family to get views. Eventually no one will give two cents about these girls. By then they won’t have a family to go back to.
Exactly! So what if they couldnt do those things? They can now. So do it and hush. Parents are allowed to raise their kids how they see fit. They were not starved, or abused. They turned out pretty well so clearly mom and dad didn't do too bad!
Jigger did the first part of the interview, he did the last part. What's your problem? She was engaged in the conversation as well. Don't look for what isn't there! 😮
Please allow me to share this powerful message from our Lord. It's from Leviticus 15, and it's so beautiful and thought provoking! "When a man has an emission of semen, he must bathe his whole body with water, and he will be unclean till evening. 17 Any clothing or leather that has semen on it must be washed with water, and it will be unclean till evening. 18 When a man has sexual relations with a woman and there is an emission of semen, both of them must bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening. 19 “‘When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. 20 “‘Anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. 21 Anyone who touches her bed will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening. 22 Anyone who touches anything she sits on will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening. 23 Whether it is the bed or anything she was sitting on, when anyone touches it, they will be unclean till evening. 24 “‘If a man has sexual relations with her and her monthly flow touches him, he will be unclean for seven days; any bed he lies on will be unclean. 25 “‘When a woman has a discharge of blood for many days at a time other than her monthly period or has a discharge that continues beyond her period, she will be unclean as long as she has the discharge, just as in the days of her period. 26 Any bed she lies on while her discharge continues will be unclean, as is her bed during her monthly period, and anything she sits on will be unclean, as during her period. 27 Anyone who touches them will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening. 28 “‘When she is cleansed from her discharge, she must count off seven days, and after that she will be ceremonially clean. 29 On the eighth day she must take two doves or two young pigeons and bring them to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting. 30 The priest is to sacrifice one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. In this way he will make atonement for her before the Lord for the uncleanness of her discharge. 31 “‘You must keep the Israelites separate from things that make them unclean, so they will not die in their uncleanness for defiling my dwelling place,[b] which is among them.’” 32 These are the regulations for a man with a discharge, for anyone made unclean by an emission of semen, 33 for a woman in her monthly period, for a man or a woman with a discharge, and for a man who has sexual relations with a woman who is ceremonially unclean.
@@karanrush-jq1dx Yet you don't see any of his children speaking out against their parents! Erin, Lawson, Zach etc are all adults and certainly could. But they aren't. They are living their lives the way they want without attacking how they were raised!
