What gets me is the disrespect shown to our serving soldiers by people who should know better. People yank on the reins and torment the horses. The best video I have seen is of a young autistic girl wearing ear defenders who politely asked the guard if she could stroke his horse - she was lovely.
@@denisemeredith2436 Layla is such an exceptional little girl, The Respect she gave to the Guards and their Horses was exemplary way beyond her years. Her Mummy must be so very Proud of her.
I was walking past Horseguards one lunchtime in the 70's and saw a woman stroking a horses withers, her presumed husband taking photos, the horse did not like it as stamped on her foot. She hobbled back to hubby who was still snapping, the horse appeared to laugh and the Guard gave it a pat and mouthed "Nice one". Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at their hotel or the flight back to the States. She was not happy!
If there was no such thing as social media and cell phone cameras, the current appalling things taking place at Horse Guards would not be happening. The internet can be a very positive thing, but it can also be an extremely negative thing.
I agree i have often posted that IMO some tourist ( youths) have watched youtube seen guards shouting get out the arches etc dont touch reins that they go to Horseguards wait until they see a camera do the same to get their own 15mins of youtube fame
@tileuxspot on, and those cameras had rolls of film in them that had to be developed into photographs and paid for before being put in the family photo album. No sharing to social media and thinking they are famous photographers. Photos I take are of buildings and are for my own personal pleasure not the whole world and their mother's. I have no interest in being famous, unlike them I'm not a vain conceited piece of baggage who thinks they are SO special and the whole world should revolve around them. Half of these people think they are on cat walk at London Fashion Week, especially teenage and early 20 year old girls. The horse is'nt interested in these flibbertygibberts and neither are the guards. Both working and should be left alone to get on with their job.
I am so glad that they have no longer allow the horses to be touched. These horses that are trained for guarding along with their troopers....not a petting zoo....nor a place for photo shooting! They shd start charging entrance fees and limit the time people spend there! A no tolerance policy should also be posted with regards to respect for all guards. The MOD police officers are very good but they cannot see everything so there has to be crowd control. We love our Troopers and horses.
They can still touch the horse they can't touch the reins if they get bit or headbutted it's their own fault but they haven't stopped people touching the horses. You can also get told no buy the soldier or police if they think you're incapable of stroking a horse sensibly or if they think you're rude or behaving inappropriately . It's all about respect.
@@barcodebattler2587 I have seen that and I know some troopers have asked people not to touch but others haven't, they all really need to be on the same page for this to work
The guards absolutely need to be protected as well as the horses. It’s really quite simple : keep the masses away from the guards and horses. So much could be solved by drawing the line. A big fat red line that delineates where people are allowed to stand and not stand. This will keep people away from the guards and horses. Because for the most part, people don’t have common sense or even a sense of integrity and what is proper, London you have to draw the line for them to maintain the honor of your history and military. The way the grounds operate now, YOU WILL FAIL AND YOU WILL ALWAYS FAIL until a change happens that will protect the integrity of your military and country.
I feel sorry for both soldiers and horses. Many tourists treat them as a cheap charade and on some occasions when I walk past you have almost to fight your way through the crowd. The whole thing is just becoming appalling.
@@iociccio936Foreign tourists are the most arrogant and self entitled, especially the Chinese who push other people out of their way. One old witch pushed someone's little girl headlong into the horse, had she done that to my child she'd have got herself arrested and deported with lifetime ban.
@@LondonCityWalkswe hate when you all come stand there from the moment we go out to the moment you come in. you seem to think you’re above the rest but you’re not. you’re just as bad as the rest for filming us down there. not one of us like it, i always pull into my box whenever i see you lot, in hopes you leave us alone.
Thank goodness for this video. I hope more people watch it to learn that these guards are not there for their fun. It has been a long time coming with regards to the disrespect of the guards and horses. Not touching the horses is a welcome rule. But I do think the guards will need to be firmer in their response to rule breakers. Our armed forces personnel in the UK need to be respected, whether or not on ceremonial or military service. Thank you all for your service to our country. Well done to the MoD police for stepping up the enforcement.
But there are some RU-vid content creators who support the guards and are super respectful and go out of their way to protect the guards from rude tourists.
Its still an annoyance to have people set up cameras just recording all day though that's the point. Doesn't matter if they sometimes " help out" they have actual police for that. These content creators shouldn't be there at all
@@alant5757 John, does protect the integrity. I have heard him really talk sternly to people who are disrespectful. He will put the camera on them and reveal their identity.
They take up prime real estate on Westminster sidewalk generating income without paying the city for that opportunity. They should be included in the busking licenses since they are stationary at the same location. They are also selling images of MOD personnel, logos, insignias, uniforms etc without licensing or approval from MOD. Doesn't seem fair. John says he can't wait for all the other clowns as he calls them to get booted, he doesn't like some bc they are new, well, he was new at one time to, he I also one of those clowns, he is rude and disrespectful calling the tourists zombies and morons, idiots etc when they haven't done anything other than show up. If everyone else gets the boot, it's only fair that he goes too. He does the exact same thing as they do except he is the biggest brown nosing butt likker out of them all. Whoever provides the horse lists to him needs to stop, they are contributing to his income unless they are getting paid to do it or kick back. The whole thing is wrong.
It would not surprise me if some people have watched some of the, “drama,” at Horseguards and decide to purposely do something to annoy the horses, guards, and RU-vid watchers
That’s exactly what they are doing! It’s become a challenge or game with them to see if they can provoke the guards to yell at them, and to see if they can get the horses to bite at them. I’ve seen several videos of visitors that purposely do something (grab the reins, step in the way of the guards, get too close to horses that are known to bite, etc) and then immediately rush to look at the video that their friend/family member has recorded for them….and they start laughing at what they did. All just to be able to post it on social media for Clicks & Likes. 🙄😒
Wonderful. Glad to hear poor behaviour is being identified and called out. One is also glad to note the new signs asking folks not to touch the horse. Very sensible. Ty for your service to both the humans and the horses; officers all!
It seems more tourist think the soldiers are actors their to be props in their pictures & videos. I’m an American and find the disrespect shown to those soldiers disgusting. Maybe it’s time to start banning people that honestly don’t know how to behave when out in public. Then you have the fools that grab the horses reins, they must not understand that’s like grabbing a vehicle’s steering wheel.
@user-rk9it9hz6g So true. I can only speak for myself here - and I’m certainly not trying to be “holier than thou” by any means - but over the years I’ve visited places like Peru, Germany, Switzerland, America, Netherlands, Poland, Ireland, Spain and more - and getting a sense of the local culture, traditions and expectations as well as the dos and don’t’s matters. But none more so than making an effort to learn a little of the language and show some respect. Do that, and you’ll rarely if ever go wrong. It’s certainly served me well over the years, but hey…maybe it’s a generational thing! Hope not.
@@fang_uk : I believe it's the cost-of-living squeeze: when people have worked their backsides off to afford flight tickets, they don't then want to sit down with Duolingo.
I myself have not touched the reins because I fully expected that if I did so, the sabre blade would dye my cuff red. As an equestrian, I know first-hand the immense gratitude a rider feels towards the ton of flesh that has defied reason to place its trust in him & the desire to make good on that trust. A horseman avenges his horse more brutally than he avenges himself.
@@ccityplanner1217 Amen to that! Just basic common sense is all that’s needed! (I’ve never had the privilege of riding such a beautiful Animal, but even I would know not to sidle up to a Horse, point my finger towards its massive chompers while looking elsewhere for some imbecilic photo-op!)
Even worse than being like grabbing a steering wheel, when a Horse Guards tourist grabs the reins they are also grabbing the guard's BRAKES!!! Very dangerous.
Its a busy street at the front and people just crowd there to watch and take photos. The police officers perhaps could do crowd control and remove them.
And there you have it……that lady just said on camera that…..“We saw it on Facebook actually where the horses have been biting everybody. So, we thought we’d come down to see if it would bite us, but no, no it didn’t.” I’ve been saying that many are purposely provoking & agitating the horses, to try and get them to bite, and the guards to get them to yell (“Do not touch the King’s/Queen’s lifeguard!” -or- “Do not touch the reins!” etc...etc.). They’ve seen them do it on social media videos, so it has now become a challenge or game to tourists/visitors, and they do any & everything to make it happen so they can get that perfect shot or video that they can post online for Clicks & Likes. They do not care that what they’re doing is causing the horses to become agitated and either lash out by biting and/or try to buck out & away from their box; and it’s disruptive to the guards that are trying to perform their duties. Not to mention, it can be dangerous for the guards, horses, & visitors/tourists if the horses stop cooperating. Unbelievable! 😒
Well any coming to visit for the first time will find the new instruction on the sign.from Monday 29July it now states DO NOT TOUCH THE HORSE . Some will still try it & I do think now those that do should be fined.
@@LizTH …..Yes, the sign is there, and for the first couple of days people seemed to adhere to the new rule of ot touching the horses and were even standing against the walls to take their pictures. The horses seemed more calm, as well as the guards; and it wasn’t as chaotic and crowded. But now, the visitors have begun reverting back to their previous behavior and standing closer & closer to the horses and putting their hands out, like they have a treat or something in their hands, in hopes of enticing and getting the horses to initiate contact with them first. That way they can then go back to touching, petting, and hugging the horses once again. And if anyting is said, they can claim that the horses touched them first. Just another sneaky way of disobeying the rules, getting their way, and getting their perfect picture and/or video to post on social media showing that they got away with it. 🙄😏
Barriers all round. Box office for payments. 2 hours max inside. Get decent volunteers in to chaperone the masses , London has a huge volunteer scheme that could be trained and utilised.
I'm pleased to see the new signs which tells people not to touch the horse,before it said not to touch the reins and before that just the top part which warns that horses may kick or bite. It never ceases to amaze me that some people think it's OK to even touch the guards.
I'm relieved to see, and welcome the new signs, notifying the public to NOT touch the horses. It has been appalling and annoying to watch tourists mauling, poking, endless stroking and swarming around the horses. At times, horses have had no space whatsoever, to move their heads. This is a working facility, soldiers with their working horses, not a petting zoo or an amusement park, were the yard is used as a playground. The disrespectful tourists, even leave their garbage laying around or atop the bollards, while waiting for the gates to open after changeover. The mockery of the Gatesman/women and Chitzman/women is despicable as well
Right. The signs will solve all problems, I'm sure. Oh, wait: did I mention that most of the idiotic tourists causing these problems also can't read? And for many don't know the first word of English anyway? Yeah: I'm sure the amended signs will help. (They're not new signs per se, by the way; as you can see, they've just substituted the word "reins" (that the Daily Mail would spell "reign" -- see, I told you about illiterates) for the word "horse". But as people would still grab the reins even after the sign saying "don't touch the reins" were added, I don't see why now they'd stop touching the horses.)
To that obnoxious woman commenting on the horses biting, well lady if people showed some respect to the guards and horses then the horses would not bite. I'm happy to see the sign telling people not to touch the horses.
@@kategwynne4658I saw her and you were NOT being thick. She absolutely was not being sarcastic. She was the one being thick. I’ve been saying for ages that the RU-vidrs were causing people to come down and see if they could be the one to be the ‘horse whisperer’. Filming 7 days a week is ridiculous.
@@OrangeySky11 Yes, some people behave as if this is entertainment for them and it isn't. I think there needs to be more respect in our society. Totally agree with you.
What gets me is that the situation so easily fixed. Disallow people from coming within 10 feet of the guards. Try coming within any distance of a US soldier on post and see how far you get.
Personally I think the new signs are totally inadequate. They need a sign either side of the horse saying DO NOT TOUCH THE HORSES THEY MAY BITE AND KICK. That way the soldier wouldn’t be pawed over and lent on and given the respect they deserve.
Hey... I think that for the Horse Guards, showing when the occasional idiot does something disrespectful is GOOD... it shows what you should not do. The one I watch off and on usually films for an hour or so each day? but the guy tells you when someone is being disrespectful and its a good lesson for everyone. I am glad they changed rules to say no touching horses because some people touch the horses too much and it seems once one person does it, more people do it.
I think you and I are following the same amazing utuber who gives wonderful commentaries around horsegaurds and London he doesn't visit every day and when he does he only stays for a few hours,always telling silly tourists when they are being disrespectful 😊
I really enjoy John's videos at Horseguard's. He is intelligent and respectful. He tries to be as informative as possible and he also has a wicked sense of humor.
@@heatherharvey3129 Yes. Probably thousands of us, recognised him immediately and know his name. It’s very unfortunate indeed that he was renamed as ‘ John’, even if the intention was ‘ John Doe’.
London city walks is the best one and very knowledgeable with info for us. He is the only You Tuber that is invited to film special events they have, that's because they all respect him and what he does with content.
Read the comments below, from two of the Guards themselves. Even they say that John is no better than the rest. He's just better at SEEMING to be a 'good guy.' Especially to his mostly American audience who believe he's the perfect representative of 'all that's British.'
Very pleased with this report. I follow several YT who are informative and interesting and I have learnt a lot more of our history and the history of the Household Cavalry.. Since I started watching it has become so noticeable of the increase in YT’s, much larger crowds for such a small area, the poor and disrespectful behaviour which has taken away a lot of the interest in following my few YT’s. The decision made for the public not to touch the horses is excellent. We all know the horses are military and are not a petting zoo. It was well over 50 years ago that I first saw the guards and their horses. I still remember the awe of seeing the guards in the splendour and their magnificent horses. I am sure that it would have not been allowed to touch the horse, let alone get so close to the guard. I’m glad the guard has spoken out. One more thing, it is interesting watching the crowds…they never seem interested in the buildings, their architecture or history! It’s just another click opportunity, then move on.
People should use respect for everyone there, especially the Soldiers, Police and horses. Stopping the touching and petting of horses was a good idea, as it keeps people at a distance, not too close. Watching the videos, you can see the horses temperment. Some really like the interaction, for awhile, but after awhile you can see that they tire of it. Some, demand a healthy respect to stay way back....There are a few youtubers who are very respectful, teach people about the guards and horses, to respect them. I enjoy being able to see London everyday, and hear a lovely accent. They film very touching scenes, funny scenes. They don't post everything they see, because the privacy of the soldiers, not giving criminals publicity, or someone who is hurt or in distress. I enjoy the pageantry and history. Hope to get back to London someday.
Great video, I can only say that there is only one legit person who has always held HCAV to high respect and the is John from LondonCityWalks, he’s not standing there for hours on end just pointing 5 cameras at the front. He shares commentary, history, etc about all there is to horse guards. It’s what sets his channel apart from all of these other scummy channels who only seek to make cash off of incidents that occur. I realize the troopers concerns when it comes to the filming, but it’s honestly not like that with John imo, I think his community would share the same opinion. Hell, I would have never known anything about HCAV had it not been for that channel 😊. Cheers. And thank you for your service.
And don’t forget, John ‘ gave’ footage to the News when a gard fell of his horse. Yes very honest that man. Oh and he deletes every negative comments from his yt.
Buska should be banned. He has been doing this for so long that he thinks he owns the place and is very aggressive to other filmers, including yelling at John in one video.
@@myoldvhstapesyour a fool to say that. John loves the horses and Troopers. He does point out how wrong the utubers are who are only there to make money, stay there all day, and use multiple devices. If you think that’s insulting then you need to rethink your views.
All RU-vidrs want to make money! I think John was condescending to Buska when that right wing guy argued with Buska. John scolded Buska on camera! Cringe.
The filming actually shows us how poor some of the behaviour is. It's not the filming that's the problem, it's the people. Social Media seems here to stay and some people having a sanctimonious dislike of cameras is looking at the problem the wrong way round. There must be a method to introduce that will deal with the people problem to everyones satisfaction.
@@marywood6270 I agree with the troopers. If they have a runny nose, why would they want that to be filmed. Why would anyone want to be filmed non-stop. The full-time all-day RU-vidrs who film to make money on RU-vid should be banned - it should only be for tourists to take a quick photo with their family.
@@marywood6270all the troopers need to speak out, be heard and be respected. This is harrassment, borderline stalking and dangerous for the troopers. People and camera people are way too close. There was a serious incident not long ago. At least the chitzman has a chain and buffer zone all shift, the other one walks through the crowd, stands in the tunnel with people standing right beside them and two boxmen are not protected. How would MOD police feel if they were filmed and followed all day long. They wouldn't and it wouldn't be put up with. At least the horses have finally gotten some respect with the newly worded signs. All of the horse meltdowns are brought on by people crowding and touching them. They finally had someone advocate for them since they don't have a voice.
I watch dozens of videos of Horse Guards & am horrified at the way some tourists behave. I also detest how many people steal clips from legitimate channels & post them to make money illegally. Click bait titles, incorrect spelling & in such a way it gives a totally different aspect to the situation. This is turn causes terrible arguments in comments .Accusations of abuse to the horses, or that it is *only a tourist attraction*. Then there are people who want to know all about the soldiers private lives . Fake pages created full of nasty rumours. I have reported hate speech & bullying yet the comments & fake accounts remain. I follow LondonCityWalks because it is respectful, informative & a running narrative saying exactly what is happening. I have learned a lot through it. I visited earlier this year & returning again this month.
People are not respectful because they say they are. You have to look at what they do and say. Sorry but John is a bully, that is what I see in his videos.
@@louise7837 I have actually met John . He is very strongly supportive of respect for all the military personal ,horses & MOD. That is not bullying, he tells it like it is. If the public had the same respect & followed the instructions on the signs & when told to move behind the white lines & the bollards that would make a huge difference. The other major issue is those who mock the guards , & they come in different nationalities & ages .99% of bullying occurs online with people who are keyboard warriors who say terrible things about our military, accusations of abuse & demeaning it all as *just a tourist attraction* .And if folks think it's ok to be disrespectful to John or any other LEGITIMATE vlogger in comments, then yes I wholeheartedly agree those comments should be removed. The answer is simple Louise, if you really don't agree with John, then don't watch his reels instead of attacking him on here.
@@louise7837think you may have the wrong John 😂 London city walks John is trying his best to educate people on the soldiers and horses at horse guards and there are some u tubers that are definitely in it for the drama but I think you will find London city walks John isn’t one of them. Love his chit chat and snark all none offensive 🤬not sure who your watching .
I think John is very respectful, you just can’t deny that! I’ve learned so much from John and his videos. I’ve never been to London, but thru John’s video’s I feel,like I’ve been there! So DON’T DISRESPECT JOHN! ❤🇱🇷
I disagree with "added pressure". The content creators like Buska catch incidents on camera which is then readily available for the MOD police to use, the creators have even been allowed a behind the scenes look in Hyde Park Barracks and they are a wealth of information among other things. You will never stop the filming at Horse Guards unless you ban cameras inside the gates because outside the gates is public access.
IMO they wont need to ban anyone from filming it will die a natural death as the tourist said they watched it on youtube tictoc etc they liked seeing people getting bitten etc so now the powers to be have banned the touching of the horses people are standing at a safe distance so no biting no horses pushing anyone over no guards shouting no horses getting frustrated and having melt downs ie nothing tofilm nothing to fill their channels with people will soon turn off if all that is filmed is a horse standing still and a guard sitting still the youtubers themselves will then see their viewing figures decline and subscriptions fall hence their revenue and they will move on to find other things to film.
The MOD police don’t need to use Buskas footage as there’s plenty enough cameras at KLG. The content creators have NOT been invited to a behind the scenes look into Hyde Park Barracks
I am old enough to remember the time when the Foot Guards had their sentry boxes outside the railings at Buckingham Palace. The guards were moved inside due to the public close "interference". Maybe the Household Cavalry will be forced to do the same soon - or have railings in front of the sentry points.
But those youtubbers show the disrespect of the tourists. Tourists should watch so they will respect the Guards, horses and the building. Also all tourists should do their research before they travel. When they get into a country they should respect the country and it's traditions. Love the new signs. In fact should have a code tourists can download to give more information and also rules on how to have respect. Also should have guides there to educate the tourists. Many don't come with a tour group.But sometimes tour group guides don't even tell their group that they should have respect.
I agree with this. The whole “well, the sign is in English, and they may not be able to read English” excuse holds absolutely no water with me - and for one simple reason: if you’re going to travel to ANY other country (and that’s you and I included) you not only have to factor the language and local dialect into the equation, but more importantly… how in the hell are you managing to make it thru a day let alone travelling the world without even making an effort in such an important element?!? I think the best thing they can do right now is make some new signs (the ADHD in me is a little bugged-out by the spacing of the new word) and add a big ol’ QR code underneath it that can instantly inform people in their own language of both the dos and don’ts of Horse Guards Parade, but also respect and etiquette.
I can recall when the foot guards were outside buck house and they were moved in behind the railings a long time ago for the very same reasons as being reported I am amazed the Horse guards are so close to the public in 2024 and i think it will not be long before railings are put up too keep the public away from the solders on duty It will be sad but the time has to be close to protect soldier and horses
The Troopers and horses are on a public footpath in Whitehall controlled by Westminster Council not MOD plus railings would be potentially dangerous to horse and Trooper if the horse became unsettled and ran forward which has been seen.
My grandfather was a member of the Royal North West Mounted Police, served in WWI, and then a mounted police officer. My dad was a veteran of WWII. These beautiful working horses are on duty. I'm guessing no one would go up to a working police, or sniffer, or bomb detector, or search & rescue, or therapy, or guide (etc.) dog and start taking selfies and petting them - so why do people think it's okay with an on-duty Kings Guard horse? I'm so glad people are asked to not touch the horses. God only knows where all those hands have been.
As a close follower of one in particular channel that's extremely respectful of the privacy and dignity of the troopers, I great respect and enjoy his channel. John from London city walks is a perfect gentleman documenting the beautiful tradition and it's quite educational and certainly entertaining. Respect is key and some of the other content creators need to check themselves and their manners. Watching these videos has made visiting England a must do in my near future.
Tourists need to learn how to behave like adults, follow the rules, show some respect and exercise some Common Sense 101. Most importantly, refrain from grabbing the horse’s reins.
I'm surprised a buffer zone separating the public from the Guards was not established long ago. Certainly some idiots would still cross it but the majority of people would understand where the line was.
@@dlxmarks Because Troopers ( Horses ) would not understand that, and Troopers Female or Male would probably choose otherwise, because a jump from standing amongst tourists would probably be chaotic - think
When will people realise that these men and women are not 'toy soldiers', they are serving members of H M armed forces, several of these brave people from HCAV have given their lives, or have been severely injured in Iraq and Afghanistan, they deserve and should be respected.
Soldiers and horses safety should come first if public get bitten by a horse it is their own fault for getting too close their are clearly signs up warning people
I love horses and I love people. I would advise people to give the horse space so he doesn’t bite them. If the guard yells a warning take heed. He has to consider the horse first and the people should listen. It’s a shame to see the UK 🇬🇧 being attacked by people who hate your country. They are also attacking my country 🇺🇸. 😢😢 😢
Right... What you seem to fail to understand is that the guards can yell all they want, if the person being yelled at doesn't understand a word of English, it doesn't help a great deal with solving the problem.
I think it's good that there is a bit more discussion going on here. Because some RU-vidrs/streamers believe they are the only ones there who are doing it right and everyone else is constantly being called "clowns" and "idiots", including the tourists who can't speak English and don't know the procedures. In the end, however, they are all influencers in the same pot and contribute to the current situation.
I think there should be a limited amount of licenses that content creators/streamers/RU-vidrs have to pay for to film within the military owned yard. There are too many people filming now, and I agree they are fighting amongst themselves and it’s getting uncomfortable to see as a viewer. I know the pavement is public property and they can’t stop people from filming there, but limiting the people allowed in the yard, like they have to have a visible license tag on their person so the MOD are constantly having to check. And then if other people without license sneak in to film, at least they won’t be able to do so with huge poles with three phones attached, they’d have to be discreet. (And if caught, thrown out).
"Don't know the procedures" Wich procedures? "Do not touch the horses"? Use the Smartphone in your hand and Google Translate so you'll find out what that means. Watch other tourist and the MoD.
@@ClaudiaErnst Yes, if the person in front of me touches the horse, can I do that too? And have you ever tried translating a sign on your smartphone while 100 tourists behind you are waiting for their turn?
@@Zedus-rl9hp Maybe I have too much trust in the capability of the tourist in handling a smartphone. Not everyone is touching the horses. The guard's made it often clear that it's not allowed to touch the horses. And at the end of the day, they now have the warning signs/pictograms.
All the armchair experts posting here make me laugh. Almost better than the videos. The life guards have been here for well over 300 years so they probably know what they're doing by now!
One you tuber which i follow always shows respect for not only the horses and gaurds but the police.He gi ves a very light-hearted comentary on places of interest in London also. I would very much miss this mans video's as i can no longer visit London because of health issues😢
Well explained. There are a couple of RU-vid channels one being London City Walks. He is very respectful and does challenge bad behaviour towards the soldiers. He explains how he finds out what the horses names are and other various bits that happen on a daily basis. Many do not release that the soldiers are on duty. Signs should go up to say be respectful as the soldiers are on duty. I always stop by when I’m in London to pay my respects, and to be proud that we have this tradition and history which goes way back. 🙏
Are you surprised as to thing happening with the horses, the public are allowed too close to the Guards and their horses, but it's greeting too bad so the public should be kept well away, if the British public was to be as disrespectful to Guards in other countries they would soon be in jail.
I am so glad I came across this video. I must admit I have been watching you tubers videos of the horse guards. After watching this I realize how disrespectful these you tubers are being, I will no longer watch them.Thank you for educating me. Love from🇺🇸
@@AnonIllumiI understand the tourist are acting like fools. However I don’t think the yt should be making money filming the kings guard. Only showing the worst for our amusement. Respectfully just my opinion ❤
Soldier drew his sword on me and my brother in 1981 and told us to "get orf them bikes" as we cycled through horseguards and onto the parade ground. No horses were involved. I still have mild PTSD..😂
Since visitors and tourist cannot conduct themselves in a respectful manner they should be denied the opportunity to be in the King Life Guard's presence.
it's hugely disrespectful. These are active duty soldiers, some of whom have been in active combat. They're on a post and deserve the space and the peace to serve.
Yeah, give me a break. While on parade, they're tourists props. I'm not excusing idiotic tourists, but the troopers knew what they were signing up for.
He didn't impersonate John, he didn't give his name, the reporter choose the name Jon.. He explains that under LCWs comment.. He doesn't know John, if he did, he would have used another name..
@@cathynewyork7918 I like Buska. He may get angry when he sees something unfair (or is being attacked) but he looks like a good person to me. He is probably the most respectful youtuber (rarely calls others idiots). I don't know what happened with the video of the crying guard, but i believe Buska really likes the guards and the job they do.
@@louise7837 Buska refused to take down the video he captured of the lady guard crying, even after she asked him to, AND he SOLD it to a news organization to broadcast it. That is rude. Plus I used to see Buska be rude to others, until I stopped watching him. Buska even came up to LondonCityWalks and yelled at him for a comment John had made about the crying guard video, while John was in the middle of recording a video. I am SICK AND TIRED OF BOTH John and Buska, so I stopped watching all of it. I am only on this video because I'm, interested in how others are also saying Buska and John are out of line, including two guards here.
In these dangerous times, is it still worth taking risks to allow "tourists" up close and personal? Do we need another incident before something is done? Horse Guards is not a prop for the tourists, the soldiers are on duty and should be treated as such.
The gold standard re filming there is John, of the London City Walks channel on here. He wasn’t there the day you filmed. Has total respect, isn’t there daily, isn’t ever there for more than 1-2 hours, ( usually one), refuses to post inappropriate content. Doesn’t sell inappropriate content to media. Is informative, interesting, polite, articulate, friendly, appreciative of all the hard work, doesn’t follow guards around or closely, doesn’t just stand for ages in front of eg one horse for hours, hoping that something will go wrong. Isn’t doing it to make money. Doesn’t use multiple cameras on too long, heavy, poles that might fall on someone. There are now far too many people standing for hours, hoping for controversial, content. Some, deliberately project a bad image of what happens there and they use ‘ shock’ descriptions to get views and money. That has recently hit the news globally. Thousands of people across the world are enjoying John’s relaxing, amusing, well- mannered, varied, videos. The videos are a huge, contrast to some others, which involve hanging about, waiting for something that will give them trashy headlines. A very good move several days ago - a new sign, “ Don’t touch the horses”. Tourists can still get great pics of themselves standing at a sensible distance. Seven hands of seven different people, on a horse’s face, was sad to see, as was the habit some visitors had of shoving their babies very close to horses, including almost into the horses’ mouths. The rein grabbing was also, dangerous. As many people said, that was like grabbing the wheel of a car. If people making videos every day don’t appreciate that they’re filming working soldiers, plus wonderful horses, a fantastic site with a rich history, perhaps they should be licensed…or in some cases not, licensed. Lastly, security, is obviously vital. Deliberately filming off duty soldiers, or recently ex soldiers, when they’ve specifically asked to not be filmed, should get anyone who does that, banned. Some weeks back, a soldier who’d recently left the job, was chatting to John, who as usual, didn’t film him, at all. Both of them, took no risks. Someone else did…and uploaded it. Absolutely irresponsible, to follow the two men having a brief, quiet chat and film them. I don’t know John of London City Walks personally but I admire his attitude, common sense and respectful behaviour. I think those traits are an asset to the place. There are a few others too, who don’t seem as controvery based as some others. Many thanks, to everyone who works very hard, at Horseguards. They deserve respect.
“Refuses to post inappropriate content” but has it stored on his phone and is more than happy to show it to whoever he chooses. This is fact from when one of the horses fell in the box it was filmed, admittedly not posted but was willingly shown to anyone who approached and asked after the horse. I do not class that as “Gold standard” behaviour.
@@genny9026 I do not need notes - I have witnessed this in person and during old tik tok lives. I was a subscriber but left when he deserted all his TikTok subscribers for RU-vid promising that lives would return in a month or two - we continued to subscribe but lives never returned on TikTok
The fact there are a few grifter RU-vidrs who seem to be permanently-based at Horse Guards looking for content & drama that makes for Clicks, Likes & Views does bring in additional attention/global focus & mostly not for the best of reasons...Most of their content is adverse reaction only & hardly puts the place in a good light. Personally, I'd get rid of & ban these RU-vidrs who are there all day everyday filming on military property for no other reason than personal financial gain. Or, make them pay for an annual media pass/license & give the MOD full editorial control over their content.
I have often thought this same thing. Especially Buska, but there are several others who also seem to make filming Horse Guards their full-time job. Get them away!
Absolutely agree with what you've written and have long advocated for background checks and licensing for those filming at Horse Guards. It's the best solution - and gives The MOD full control over access.
@@LondonCityWalks It would be better to ban ALL the full-time RU-vid filmers who are filming as a job, only to make money, and limit filming ONLY to tourists taking a brief photo or two with their families.
@@cathynewyork7918 Buska is somewhat irritating, he's desperate to ingratiate himself at Horse Guards with the police & military as some sort of a video recording citizen guardian...he's also a bit of a karen to be honest.
@@_Ben4810 I agree! I no longer watch Buska but I have seen him be very rude to other RU-vids when I watched their videos! He actually yelled at John of LondonCity Walks in one of John's videos - and it was Buska's fault, NOT John's, and Buska even yells at tourists. He is a BIG "Karen." Buska sold a video of a lady guard crying and sold it to the news and refused to take it down when the guard asked him to. Rude guy.
I remember going to see them 40 years ago and had my photograph taken. The difference now is social media and clickbait. Fortunately, I've seen more positive interactions than negative online, but them I'm not looking for negativity
It is now an unacceptable safety risk for both the horses and soldiers. There should be a demarcation of at least two metres between the public and the soldiers, and clearly marked. It would be a sad day for everyone should an incident occur.
The interviewed RU-vidr "Jon" does definitely NOT turn away his camera when incidents happen. I know his (two) channels!! And thats the main reason all the RU-vidrs are at Horse Guards: to film Tourist getting bitten, pushed aside or else. That will gain clicks and that means money! Only one channel is different, it's with narrating, information an respect. The channel owener wrote a comment here a few minutes ago 😉
@@hellsbells8689 Didn't you watch the video above? Go to 2:38 , the news made up the name "Jon" (not a typo) for the RU-vidr, who wants to remain anonymous. I know LCW John (with an h), his voice and how he looks 😉
@@Sternchen35hh Yes I watched it and found it odd (and mystifying) how the fella filmed was named Jon. I've seen many people blaming John of LCW for being the problem. I felt maybe you were doing the same. I will remove my post as I was wrong. Having watched John's video where he talks about the interview and then shows footage of some youtubers having talks with the police there, I feel they are keeping tabs on what is going on and wanting to let everyone know they ARE keeping tabs and that they know who the filmers are and that they can see who posts what and where they post it or give footage to (whether they are paid for said footage or not.)
You can watch how rude the people are rude glad we glad a new sign..it was sad how before they change the sign took away the don't touch the reins to don't touch the horse.... Love the infomation...many good filmers and some are not great...a filmer name is John...he is great...and helps sometimes....
John of LondonCityWalks is at Horse Guards for the same reason Buska and all the others are - to make money on RU-vid filming the Horse Guards and probably NOT sharing their profits with the Horse Cavalry.
I think that the media should have respect for the soldiers and staff and police officers. Some utubers are only interested in making money from the public who misbehave and not teach about the history and purpose of the place. Some have sold footage to news outlets. Some new rules need to be put into place.
Buska did that - Buska sold footage of a lady guard crying - and refused to take it down when the guard asked him to, and it got broadcast on TV news and embarrassed the young lady guard.
I heard that a utuber took video of a soldier and it was requested by the soldier and the bosses to remove it, and he refused, so they banned him from the facility.He is not happy about it. He stands outside the facility and complains to fellow utubers about his treatment. I was never a subscriber to this person's channel .
@@cathynewyork7918 The utuber London City Walks was approached by buska and said a few things, it is audio recording as London didn't put the other utuber on camera .According to buska they banned him and he can not enter horse guards, London City Walks had told him not to post or sell his footage of the soldier who was off duty at the time. But he did it anyway. consequently, he's banned, I have also seen the police officers approach other utubers who are there filming not to follow the guards while they are doing the walks to and from the tunnel and back to the arches some of them are doing what appears to be stalking them and intimidating them that they are getting to close to their personal space. They are also blocking their path. The utubers that have three cameras on their sticks/poles are the ones that the police officers were talking to. London City Walks only uses one camera and one selfie stick ,so they have not warned him, also he doesn't film them when he talks to the officers or the troopers, that's how he gets more information about the horses like their names and personality traits, like Ormond and Arnie the nippers/biters of the public when they get to close or touch them. The new rules about not touching the troopers or the horses should help them out with that.The troopers seem to be back to shouting at the public again which is a good thing when they break the rules.
Censorship is never the answer. Educating the public would be a more sensible approach. Better International signage would help tremendously as many tourists cannot read Latin/English signs and they do not realize the Guards are on duty...it's just fancy dress/Disneyland to them.
I was hoping you would interview Buska. He must have been out there somewhere - lol! The new signage seems to be mostly working already. We all think it would be valuable to have the signs on both sides of the horse box, because it can get so crowded that tourists coming up on the other side of the sign really don't see it to read it if they do read English.
@@MariannMcDonnell John is just as pushy as Buska, but not quite as rude about it. Both are making money by standing there for hours every day filming those poor guards. Do they ever give the guards any of the money they make by filming them?
@@cathynewyork7918 Since john started filming at Horse Guard, he has quarreled with all the other youtubers. What would you say about a co-worker like that? When someone doesn't get along with anybody, that someone is probably the source of the problem.
It's really hard to watch when members of the public disrespect our service Men and Woman they are there for a reason not for the amusement of the public in the 1950s 60s and 70s you would observe but you would not go up to them or even speak to them they are on guard duty, in those days we respected them.🧐
Oh my God someone was rude and now we all must be watched and warned! I wonder if someone is rude to me if I can get the police to come and warn you all?
No surprise to anyone who watches these videos. The horses are magnificent! (And the guards are patient beyond belief.) I myself am a very patient person. However, I know that I could never work around hordes of sometimes rude and disrespectful tourists.
The tourists aren't the issue for the troopers, the RU-vidrs and social media content creators are the problem like Abdullah, John (London City Walks), Buska, Joshua and Laurie, the 3 women who film for Facebook the list goes on. Troopers want them all gone.
@@Caocao8888 Every single content creator down there has uploaded incidents. None of them are innocent. No matter how much London City Walks and Buska plead their innocence.
I do think a hard-wearing permanent or retractable canopy over the front arches is absolutely doable. I realise these things may not happen overnight due to logistics, red-tape admin (listed building regulations etc) and of course - money, but the World is only getting hotter and we (or more specifically, the MoD) have a duty of care to our serving Soldiers, mounted or otherwise as well as their working animals too.
@@tonys1636 Oh I and others are aware of that, but that aside, it does get unbearably hot even with those considerations taken into account - not to mention being atop a very hot Horse (heat rising of of them must be insane!) along with the kit, tunics etc they must wear, so I think the added extension of a shaded canopy for when the Sun moves to the front and beats down in the afternoon isn’t much of an ask, one hour of public-facing duty or not! 😬
@@fang_ukI was just thinking that yesterday, how a canopy over the boxes out front would benefit the horses tremendously by providing shade. I watch from Florida and shade and keeping cool is a routine part of life year round here so my thoughts naturally turn to how unbearably hot the troopers must be in their uniforms and the dark coloring for the horses. I’ve even pondered ceiling fans or wall mounted fans in the boxes too. They make some pretty nice outdoor fans that would fit inside and not impede the cameras. Idk, it’s a thought. I admire and respect the troopers and their horses immensely and anything to make their job easier, safer and more comfortable should be done.
I want to add the majority of these video idiots are doing it solely for money and they use terrible click bait titles. They do film things they shouldn't. That guy interviewed was lying through his teeth. Just watch his other channel, he has 2! The only one to watch is John from London City walks. He's a proud Brit, shares history and is always careful to respect the troopers. He says it how it is. That's the only channel to watch, always learn something from John. Glad that HG is now taking some action.
We love John. Unlike the others, he only films about three days a week and usually only one hour or sometimes two. He’s not in it for the money but does it because he loves and respects the troops and horses.
Not a realistic idea. Tourists bring lots of money into London, help provide jobs for people in hotels and restaurants and subways and buses and tourist sites. No way will England ban tourists. Be realistic.
In today's climate and in view of what happened to the soldier last week , no-one should be allowed anywhere near them- should stay behind the bollards with police there to ensure it🏴
We'll all be OK so don't worry, as long as we are all doing exactly what we are told. This is possibly the best use of police resources I've ever seen. Bravo.
Well do something about it , the horses need protection from ignorant people putting their children at risk. We did see a video where the horse refused to go in the box, give him some credit, he /she doesn’t want to be taunted.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙄🙄🙄🙄
You could put a block Aid with a 50ft sign saying do not cross and they would still find away to do things. Ive seen videos of people blocking the signs and moving closer bit by bit and it's always when the armed police move off. People just want to hear the guards yell at them so they have content for tiktok.
The MOD should really make sure the King’s Guards and the horses are treated better especially making sure the rude tourists don’t harass and tease the horses!
