Expeditions on the Edge: EVEREST 

Eric Simonson Didn't save anybody's lives. It was the Sherpa's. The hero hunter is nothing but a lazy American trying to take credit for somebody else's Accomplishments.All these climbers say they climb mount Everest. All they did was walk up a hill with a rope that they didn't even put on the mountain.

@@scottyvary Bitter Envious and Pathetic. Go cry elsewhere.

@@scottyvary Ffs I love & admire the Sherpa people probably more then you BUT your comment is simply beyond unknowledgeable & unecessary snark 🙄

Technically 4 since one of the russians died.. still an amazing achievement though!

Summiting is more important than human life. Everyone knows that

@Joseph Lucas Absolutely right.

Scott Fisher. He was wrong and now he’s dead. Summitting is summitting even if you don’t make it back down. The guy was just a known a-hole

💯 agree. You only successfully summit if you get back down the ascent is part or the challenge.

Absolutely.

@@XxXx-sc3xuagree with you, you summit you summit. You may have died on the way down but you did it, you die on the way up… you didn’t.

@your mom 😱

Pretty amazing documentary! The recreations are all very realistic, as good if not better than if someone had somehow filmed all the original story.

@@davesmith5656 I thought that too - for a few minutes I thought they had used some rare footage and then remembered it said reproductions - very evocative

@@golden1789 Yes, it was quite successfully done, the actors also looked well matched to mallory and irvine. They should have filmed a few more scenes.

exactly, the sensation of warmth is created by the body's last attempt at survival by gushing blood to all parts of the body.

@@321castle Yes. There is nothing better in the universe than a human body.

@@yellowNred I guess, but for me, personally, I've never been able to get past the taste! 🤣🤣

The difference in air pressure at altitude is a result of lack of oxygen so same diff really... & those dying of hypothermia do feel heat near the end. In an attempt to survive the body directs blood to the core & that blood is released to circulate just before death. This is why many are found to have taken off their protective gear ;o)

@@JustMe-nf1mf well …. The partial pressure of oxygen decreases with altitude *because* of the thin atmosphere, it doesn’t cause it.

and then again Hillary said that is normal and any decent human would have had to do the same assuming you felt as fit as them.

Are you kidding me. These guys in a documentary are nothing more than glorified Follower. When somebody climbs that mountain without any help from the Sherpa's. No food brought up no tents is no oxygen Unless they carry it up themselves. Oh and one more thing. They have to set their own safety lines.

@@scottyvary I agree without sherpas they wont climb at all

@@scottyvary Actually there are climbers who set anchors & rope! I admire the Sherpa people more than anyone & even I know exactly how uneducated & inane your comment is just to snark 🙄

let me guess, you're a dmb united statian who thinks life is about hollywood superman and heroes. ANYBODY who is fit and on a mountain and find someone in mortal danger must help, it's not a matter of being a hero, and these are words of the Sir Hillary.

No disrespect towards anyone, but I've learned enough about Dave Hahn, Simonson,Politz, and Anker that they have all climbed at various times in their lives without anyone putting in fixed lines for them , without the aid of Sherpa. Perhaps they hired Sherpa for these expeditions so that they could focus on their tasks at hand. I firmly believe the Sherpa ARE the unsung heroes . It's like a catch 22; you are a wuss if you hire them to assist with the expedition but you are denying them income if you don't( in the past, some climbers were singled out and got into verbal skirmishes for NOT hiring Sherpa). I most certainly agree though, that they are the true heroes of the mountains. God Bless

there are no proof that he carried his wife's photo, that story came from her side of the family and it's unclear he truly had told her that. As for the flag, Irvine not Mallory.

Kodak has said the celluloid would be able to be developed if it was still in the camera

Did they think to check his camera roll on his iPhone?

@@l_squared5211 Yes but that has nothing to do with the comment you replied to lol

I thought the same about photo and flag

I think they just really wanted to get to the top and a 'search of the summit' was a good excuse.

Actually when all is said, the Swiss expedition 1 year before before Hillary came only 800 feet from the summit. So who made it first isn't really relevant, it's just the luck of the weather that day. I believe Mallory did not make it and was trying to save his life by going down fast, too fast to be safe.

Totally agree. The brave men who went into totally unknown territory on these quests, and to the TALLEST IN THE WORLD at that, are so badass!!!!!! True pioneers ❤️

It’s the truth that counts in the end my friend. If they ever find the camera, which may be with Irving’s body or even lost, we may find evidence that supports a successful Mallory/Irving summit. The you would look rather silly wouldn’t you? You would need to formally apologise wouldn’t you Alan!

@@PetraKann I am aware they may have made the summit but the truth is it’s been almost 100 years and we don’t have a camera and Hillary and tenzing were the first. Making it back is just as important as making the summit in every expedition. I hope a body and camera is found but it changes nothing really.

@@PetraKann maybe they did reach the top, but they didn't make it back. Hillary and Tenzing did, making them the first to conquer Everest.

@@alanluscombe8a553 It will change everything my friend. You may need to make a written apology.

What's the UK version of Neil Armstrong?

Of course it remains a mystery, but the available evidence makes it extremely unlikely that Mallory summited Everest. Conrad Anker, the guy who actually found Mallory's body, wrote an excellent book called The Lost Explorer. He actually has summited Everest twice, once without gas. He had a fantastic chapter at the end of the book in which he very logically, based on the actual evidence, explains precisely why Mallory couldn't have made the summit. However, he also is very clear to point out that that doesn't diminish what Mallory and Irvine actually did do.

If you don't make it back down then summiting means zero imho, BUT I do not say that to take anything away from those who tried before Tenzing & Hillary, only that I see them as totally different things ;o)

@@JustMe-nf1mf That's a fantastic way to look at it.

The pointy summit is Nuptse I believe, you can see Everest summit behind it to the left.

True but you also have to acknowledge there was luck involved as well ;o)

Unfortunately they did not give him a proper burial they disturbed his body not once but twice. But will only tell you about the first time. They returned with a metal detector days later and that time ripped every inch wool fabric still clinging to his dried skin and made a heap of flesh and bones from him. That is the worst tomb raider violation i have ever heard of short of Egyptian pharaohs. Neither did they have the permission of his family to take body samples as said in the video that is a confirmed lie. They were united statians that explains their not knowing how to properly handle such situation.

I was still a good video, but I agree, I flippin hate jerky, flashy, 'photosensitive seizure warning' editing like that. Thumbs up for the story. Thumbs down for the editing.

I love climbers etc but find little heroism & zero hope in Alex Harnold tbh. I find that choice of word odd, confusing, & interesting

At this point I feel they will find him by accident

Yep, something tells me he got much lower climbing down than Mallory but got lost and it's why it's not on any route. Then the other big alternative is that he had all the evidences that they succeeded but the Chinese found him and pushed his body in the abyss.

@@ericastier1646 he is most likely somewhere in the north face or nepali if he felled from the top.

@@thefivews4720 you mean from the ridge. But they avoided the ridge because it is unprotected from the high winds.

No joke, another guy in that situation in a completely different expedition said they slapped him so much and hit him to keep him going that he had bruises all over the body. But it worked.

Another documentary said Sir Hillary had to releave himself before going down and peed on the summit, and happenned to pee on the picture mallory had left. Ok the second half of that isn't true but the first half is true.

Well, haughtiness or youthful optimism

you got it wrong, Mallory was much older than irvine. 38 and 22 years old. More like an expert and a young novice. Mallory was full of that WW1 seen it all nothing scares me anymore attitude it seems. He was also weird and eccentric. Maybe Irvine succombed to altitude and Mallory pushed his body down the mountain with all the evidence of their climbs thinking that he wouldn't make it himself.

It didn't... at 25,000 feet your body is still seriously oxygen deprived & dying slowly in the death zone ;o)

Even if he did borrow a camera, and even if the camera is found, I'm sorry to say this but, I highly doubt the film inside the camera will be viable. The silver gelatin emulsion used in roll films of that day would have most likely, over the years, melded and stuck together making it almost impossible to unroll for processing. It would be brittle and crack into pieces like dry rot. Also, almost 100 years of exposure to solar radiation at those high altitudes has probably washed out or critically damaged any images on the film. Who knows, I could be wrong, but I still would not put much hope in the lost camera answering any questions.

It was Irvine's camera! Kodak agreed to give the maximum technical assistance to recover the images if it were ever found.

Glad you brought this up. You're absolutely correct. I'm assuming you follow Micheal Tracy too?

yes he was part of hahn's team. This is the return expedition to find irvine.

What are you wondering? If he could have been saved? Sadly Sharp tucked himself into Green Boots Cave and most people going up had no idea he was there. Nor did they see him. They were expecting to find a body in that exact area, so some made the mistake thinking he was green boots. It was only after the sun came up did people notice there were two bodies in the cave. David did his climb alone with no help and no one knew where he was and if/when he was going up. So no one even knew there was someone stranded up there in the first place. Had David made better choices and been smarter, he could have made it. You can't blame other climbers for the choices someone else makes that ends in them losing their lives. You don't try to summit late in the afternoon. He did. You let people know where you are, he didn't. You should go with a Sherpa guild as well, He climbed alone. He made all the wrong choices. The only person at fault for Davids death was himself.

@@GrumpyKay Couldn't have said it better myself. Perfectly put.

@@coryCuc Thanks. I just think its unfair to judge David Sharp situation, like other rescues. And to want to find the fault in the other climbers who passed him, instead of putting blame on David. He made the choice to go alone with no group lower to track him. No one knew his plans, and he didn't have a radio or anything. So how was anyone to know he was even up there? Asian Trekking doesn't keep tabs on their climbers like that. At least not back then. (i dont know if they do now, but that company has SOOOO many clients die.. that they probably still dont) At the end of the day, You have to be the one who can get down from Everest. People can't carry you. You have to be able to walk yourself down. David, spent the night out in one of the coldest nights that year, without letting anyone know. Was out of O2, and tucked himself inside a cave, which made it hard to even see him. (He was probably doing that to get out of the wind and stay warmer, but still it meant he was harder to see) Especially at night time. There is no one to fault Davids death but David. Even his own family has said so.

@@GrumpyKay I agree it is unfair to judge in relation to other rescues etc BUT I also believe it is unfair & unecessary to blame the victim as you did :o( You are making a supposition just the same as those trying to blame others! Suffice to say we don't have first hand knowledge, nobody knows either way, & blaming Sharp accomplishes nothing ;o)

What ever makes you kids sleep at night

I Agree they didn't make it Ok

The were roped together

@@waynelayton8568 Actually we do not know they were roped together & if they had been BOTH bodies would have been found together ;o)

Oh yes, they dug him up and looked at his face. Those videos will never see the light of day though. In fact they went up again (after burying him) and dug him up a second time.

even if he did summit he only made it half way

I agree it doesn't count if you don't make it down BUT that DOES NOT mean trying to solve histories questions is trophy hunting ffs 🙄

They didn’t even recognize that he was the one that found the body. Fucked up and disingenuous editing.

@@ericclaptonsrobotpilot7276 weird!!?? I didn't get that far. Unwatchable

Durrrr ???? ,. U might freeze it off tho ‘ ‘ 🥶🥶🥶

Sir Hillary peed on the summit of Everest, no joke, facts you will find it in a documentary on him and Tenzing. It really depends on the weather that day. It's more tricky for women.

I believe the second expedition was in 2001, the one where they found Mallory was in fact in 1999. So maybe if you check the records for 2001 you will find the Russians.

I met some Moldovans recently . Their car had talked into a ditch and was securely stuck there ... They both had no English ... The man explained Moldova and used a word that sounded like "rush" so I took him to mean Russia and replied " LITTLE BLUE BUS " ... It's a Russian word that made no sense but was funny ... He knew I wasn't a threat .. Eventually two french tourists arrived .. it was useless , I said une petite Pu Frances . Then an Irish guy arrives with a big tow rope in his boot . And out it popped . Hopefully his clutch is still ok . Random thought

Rewatching, they said only one had died. (Only two of the 3 Russian climbers were found down there. The 3rd could have kept climbing down, and thus lived) Looking at the records for the 2001 climbing season, a Russian named Aleksei Nikiforov Died on the North East ridge on May 24th. Most likely that is the Russian in this story who died. I am looking at Wikipedia as well for these records.

You think they spoke Ukrainian language instead of Russian? How can any body know what nationality you are if you speak Russian?

It wouldn't have even taken a bad storm tbh BUT it is also possible he took it from his pocket to look at as he lay dying & it was destroyed years ago ;o)

Yeah you always hear them say "after a certain height, called the death zone, the body is literally dying." Ok so what should that tell you....

This has always puzzled me as well

Of course it counts. If you do something and you do it, then you get credit for doing it. Did he summit Mt. Everest? Yes. Therefore he summited.

@@coryCuc summit is only half the climb... half a home run doesnt count...

@@brianshaw2914 Summit IS the climb. If you want a title for Summitting and then returning to base camp then make that a "thing." There's no such thing as "half a home run" just as there is no such thing as "half a summit."

Wtf is wrong with you ugh 🙄

No. No it's not.

Ffs no they didn't & that's literally a moronic statement 🙄 If anything they preserved the evidence as it will survive far longer covered in rocks ugh

I have to agree with you. Dave Hahn even stated so himself. He noted that they weren't forensic archeologists.

It doesn't ugh. It counts as first to step on the summit but not first to successfully climb everest like Tenzing & Hillary