Experiencing a VR treadmill 

Hi there, Ben plays VR. We genuinely appreciate your feedback and are glad to hear that you found it to be an intense workout experience. We understand that adapting to a new movement style can take time, but we're delighted to offer a unique way to immerse yourself in VR games. Furthermore, we value your input and will continue to work on improvements to enhance the overall experience. Hope you will have more fun and amazing moments on our C 2 core! 😉

Idk how youe channel isn't the number one VR review channel. All your reviews are concise and exactly what you need to hear

Fantastic review and feedback, allowing Catwalk to understand current state and issues as well as potential buyers what to expect!

Thanks for the thorough and unbiased review! I've been toying with the idea of buying a VR treadmill, but had some concerns. After watching your review I've come to the conclusion that it's probably not for me.

Thanks for making such an honest review!

Glad you get to keep it Ben, I have wanted one of these for years. You will struggle to run away from spiders so easy with this!

I am a man of an older and plumper carriage, i think ill stick to Thrill of the Fight. I hate walking/jogging for fitness, because i work in a warehouse and get at least 5 miles a day. Cant wait for TotF2!!

Thank you Ben for showing off my cable kit product, really appreciate it!

My thoughts on the walking simulation machine is that, there is a problem. Its problem of not being able to fix the user's vertical location around the waist. There is a way to fix all the problem. It's to convert most chairs into the machine. Like rudder pedals, putting the shoes directly onto the ground makes it possible to float one leg at the time. Most floors are made out of tiles, we need a huge mouse-pad for that. It's tireless, and accurate. Having 2 legs expanded on the ground could be used for crouching. Leaving 2 legs in the air could allow the player to jump. It's straightforward. Moving below the knees, while sitting in the spinning chair. Instead of having legs infront, we spread the legs outward. The mouse pad could be shaped like a donut or a large round. The problem with the machine looks like it's because of the waist band supported only by 2 pillars, they look fragile. It should be strengthened by more spars. So that the user doesn't have to care about the structural integrity of the spinning wheel. If the backside of the shoes are just like a mouse, it should have no problem changing the travel distance of the player based on the real-life travel of the legs. The machine can either focus on the slippery surface to allow one-leg on the ground at the time, so that while one leg is floating, one leg slips and automatically makes the player walk. But it makes the travel distance rather uncontrollable, the user has to put the legs on the ground far away from the center point if the user wants to walk fast. As the slope keeps the leg near the center. It feels like the experience from the same machine could be upgraded with just a software updation. Beside those 2 factors, they really have to remove the lens-like unevenness, if the machine does not utilize the slipperiness of the surface. Most terrains in-games are flat, I know it's supposed to help the users but theoretically a flat surface gives the user more immersion. I don't know about hitting 2 legs at the same time on the ground. As there are 2 points hitting the ground at the same time, it doesn't have to make the player move. But touching the ground with 2 legs and expanding the distance between each leg might be used for another control of the movement, like jumping or crouching. What do you think? Also I'm wondering if the shoes have their own gyro sensor or the direction is decided sorely by the waist band. I think having the gyro sensors on each shoe might be more accurate on how it feels like to walk sideways. Not for where the player is facing, as it's better left for the waist band. But the movement itself could be based on the gyros on the shoes independently.

I miss my reverb G2 for it's comfort, sound and image, traded it with my nephew for his quest 2 as the cable is hazardous to my kids. Always good to see your videos being uploaded.

I missed your reviews so much! Glad you're back! Also, awesome in-depth review, thank you!

Thorough, honest, I like it! If I were to be in the market for one I would purchase it based on this review.

Hey Ben! I am a fellow Katwalk user and I habe a tip that might help things feel nore natural wheb walking. I noticed you are taking rather short steps, and leaning forward a bit, which is definitely what feels intuitive when you first start using it. Try keeping your back more straight, and take somewhat longer strides. You want the tip of your toes just about touching the edge of the base, and then you put more weight on your heels which should make your feet more naturally slide back instead of feeling like you are constantly pulling. Just wanted to share in case it helps - Cheers!

Thanks for the honest review! Nice poster in the background ;)

Your outro and backround music never gets old. I love it.

Great review video. Locomotion solutions are still going strong I see 🙂

Good for you Ben 👍 Enjoy it.

Tried KATVR before and this is exactly what I thought. It can be a cool new sport in a cyberpunk world but doesn’t feel like natural walking.

Nice review Ben

Can't wait till I have my own house so I can set-up a dedicated VR gaming room with a treadmill!

great video!

The wanderer returns

Thanks Ben.

I have the Katwalk and spoke Katvr and asked why don't they teach reviewers how to use it? They said it would be difficult. So here is my attempt on how it works. Do not lean forward and push your feet back. Stand straight and put your leg out and foot forward and as gravity slides it back to center take the other leg and put it forward. If it sounds like how you walk in real life... well, then you are doing it right. You don't walk by leaning forward and pushing your feet further behind you. I can play for an hours in Half Life Alyx and get tired because I am walking for an hour but it doesn't feel like I am pulling a sled... because I am not putting my upper torso forward past my lower. My problem with Katwalk c2+ was that in Skyrim (the hand I spend 90% of my time on) it wasn't 1:1 and hindered immersion. Though Alyx was pretty great so it is more the game then the Hardware.

cool video! Keep going!

man your beard grows so far up. also thanks for the review

Hi Ben!! What lucky timing to see your video immediately. I would hop at the chance to try a VR treadmill but my biggest issue is always how bulky the devices have to be. Unless I have a mansion, I can’t see how I could justify the amount of space a treadmill would take up.

Put some foam under the tub. Or dyna mat. Should limit the echo of walking on it.

After hearing Ben coin it as a "Sled Pulling Simulator" within the 1st 2 min is all I ever need to know about these VR treadmills. These designs will never work for walking inside VR period. I can skip future videos about them. Omni directional might be a last hope but these other types are a pointless tiring drag. 🤪

I got lucky and got to use a Virtuix Omni and a Wizdish. You are right about getting tired quick... Who knew that running around for 20mins is exhausting? And yeah very much 'running up-hill'. Actually the Wizdish was way better in those regards but looked way less impressive from the outside. You never lift your feet on the Wizdish and there is less friction so it kind of feels like skating. Unfortunately it didn't come with a rigid harness so there was more worry of falling off.

I thought of getting this but I saw a video of the stomping problem. Not something you want when living in an apartment or anywhere that has multiple tenants.

Appreciate the honest review. How do you enjoy using it with Skyrim VR? How do you think it would handle taller/shorter/"wider" folks? I have to admit after getting an Oculus Quest and going wireless my next biggest "complaint" about VR is not being able to walk around without bumping into walls, so this is the next dream. (I did one of those open room games at a VR arcade and it was AMAZING to have the freedom to walk around and shoot zombies). Ohh guess another question would be do you think this setup would benefit from specific games? You mentioned it felt like pulling a sled, what if there was a cart pulling game, do you think that would be effective with the mind trickery?

Very cool video.. We are also creating VR mixed reality content to use own VR app.

Feels like pulling a sled? I guess the only thing missing is a VR headset for Siberian Huskys!

Oh my goodness, I predicted the future. Idk if you remember my comment Ben, but I asked about your thoughts on VR treadmills like 2 weeks ago haha

dont pull on the harness , try to walk standing up normally, it will need time to adjust but you can do it

I have the even cheaper variant, the cyber shoes (with a barstool), running trough Skyrim from West to East is quite exhausting with these too.

Pro tip - take an old pair of trainers and hot glue felt to the bottom, it’s a lot easier to walk and quieter!

Lol @ the shoe noise clip. I feel like this would be very distracting if you have the index floating speaker system rather than headphones. Do you think a bigger disc would make it feel more like you are walking? It seems like a small size for your height.

next, yaw 2 vr review

maybe katvr will have an lk-99 levitating treadmill soon 🤞💸💰

get the feeling full body tracking is just gonna kill all these motion treadmill. They always have limitation on their implementation… while full body is design to just work with anything. Could be wrong… but it might be a better investment to get a motion suit and an open omnidirectional treadmill

mind testing it on nfl pro era 2 and big ballers?

Try putting mouse skates on your shoes?

I'll just play seated VR, tnx you!

Don't you find the g2 having a small fov ? Did you got a fix ?

Genuine question Ben: When you walk irl, do you lean forward when you walk? (I hope this doesn't make you feel wierd, men tend to do this) I ask because I'm really curious how your experience is if you try to walk with your back straight.

Can you strife, walk backward, in diagonal or jump with that ? Or is it just walking forwards

I am not qualified to have an informed opinion but this looks like a recipe for repetitive strain injury lol

They need to find a way to reduce friction

It would be utterly unethical for someone to lie to get a treadmill, and I don't think anyone is going to accuse you of lying. KatVR might feel like this is a tough pill, but you did not necessarily talk me out of buying this treadmill, but rather than an immersion tool, I would use it for the workout, which is likely the more lucrative way for KatVR to market this thing.

The company advertising you can walk slowly with it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JKd00IEqjYQ.html Maybe some configuration problem is the cause of your trouble with it.

It's like you wanna say it's bad to use but you can't because of sponsorship 😅 It's OK we understand

Geeze, 6000hrs in VR and no one sends me anything. I play Blade and Sorcery with arm weights lol Though I never ask for subs, likes, or free stuff.

That looks awful. Thankyou for your review

Vr treadmills like this are trash. A waste of money and recorces. Do not support this technology. We need vr shoes

BenWalksVR 😜 That looks super cool, and the price is doable. I lost 70 lbs doing VR boxing (and gained 20 lbs back since I beat TotF). I wonder how much I'd have to use this each week to keep the 20 off 💪🤔

Does the treadmill make VR more immersive? Did it make any games more fun to play?