It's pretty incredible how much difference 15 onethousands of an inch in bore diameter makes. Without the second valve, those two instruments are the same length and tuning. But when I put my bass mouthpiece on my tenor, it doesn't play like a bass bone; that's for sure.
I got put on sousaphone this year as a new prerequisite rule for bass trombone, I’ve wanted to play since 6th grade and now I’m going into junior year at Hs. There are a lot of trombone players that don’t know about bass and it’s really surprising
I’m jealous of your high F. I’ve never been able to play one on the bass, without hurting myself. Haha! Really nice explanation and demonstration of the bass, Zach. I’m definitely going to be checking out all of your videos.
So are the valves the two brass circles? Also is the bass trombone the same octave as a tenor, it’s just able to play low notes better and easier? I’ve been confused but I know the contrabass plays in the tuba octave so I would assume I play Tuba and was thinking about getting a trombone for Christmas so I could play all low brass instruments at my school
You are essentially correct. The circles are the valves but other trombones have different looking valves such as the Thayer/axial flow valve which is more like a cone. The modern bass trombone is really the same length as the tenor but generally with an additional, larger tubing and a bigger bell. This all aids the bass trombone in having an easier time in the low range.
Yes and no. In many instances a bass trombone player is asked to play what a tenor trombonist must play. Because of this I encourage bass trombone players to play much of the same material as tenor trombonists in addition to more specific (lower) bass trombone music.
@@bigreddog3241 I focus on all low brass instruments but I play some piano and drum set as well but neither of those at the same level as low brass instruments.
I've heard that once or twice but I wouldn't say that is an industry standard term. Single valve bass trombones are still bass trombones but most modern bass trombones have two valves. Things get a little bit gray with tenor trombones with larger slides or bells.
I've read that that was an early name for a trombone with F attachment. But back then nobody was playing anything as large as a .547 bore tenor in the symphony either.
Is there some kind of “recommended” low range on a tenor trombone if you want to switch to bass? Right now I can go down chromatically to a pedal A or a G on a good day, except for the low B natural
I don’t necessarily think of a hard and fast rule. In some ways as a teacher, I would be more concerned with low range tone and general facility. General bass trombone literature in large ensembles does not go lower than the notes you can already get to. There is going to be an adjustment no matter what but it sounds like you are a good candidate to switch if that’s what you want to do. I might add that bass trombone still has to play high and playing bass doesn’t mean you only play low.
@@LowBrassU that’s alright with me, on tenor I can typically play up to a double C#, and my low C is almost perfectly in tune majority of the time. Right now I’m working on not puffing put my cheeks so much on anything lower than an Eb but I’m improving
@@quandabulous_g_official1937 While very few brass teachers encourage their students to put their cheeks while playing, many professionals do puff their cheeks especially in the low range. Personally, I don’t encourage students to puff their cheeks but if they are puffing their cheeks in the low range and I don’t hear a problem, I’ll probably let them continue doing so.
@@LowBrassU yeah my private instructor said it was acceptable to puff out your cheeks in the extreme low range, but I only do it for notes below the staff. If it’s just a low F or E I’ll only do it if I have a higher note before it. Thanks for the advice though, I appreciate all the videos explaining things like this 🙏
You can add a second valve (which probably wont be cheap because it would be custom) but essentially every part of the bass trombone is bigger. You can also get a longer F attachment made but at the end of the day you can't really convert a tenor.