Explained: The NEW Champions League, Europa League & Europa Conference League format 😮🗂️ 

Fr... this is utter bs

This is better.

@@caven7056 this is way worse, other teams besides the ones from England, France, Spain, Italy & Germany will barely have chances to qualify

@@theghostofbabanovac7069 don't pretend as if you give a crap about leagues that aren't from the big 6/7. Who watches the polish league

@@caven7056 I would watch Legia, Lech or Wisla in a league of their own if they were able to retain players like Lewandowski, Zielinski, Kiwior or Zalewski or i would watch a Dinamo Zagreb side with Modric, Lovren and Brozovic playing in Europe if i knew they have the best players from Croatia in their ranks but in order for these clubs to do that they need to have money and in order to have money they need a decent opportunity, chance to compete at a higher level....oh wait that's not happening so i guess there is a vicious system in place that favors the rich clubs. Do you mean to tell me that a Red Star Belgrade team from 1991 with a world class midfield comprised of Sinisa Mihajlovic, Vladimir Jugovic, Robert Prosinecki and Dejan Savicevic wasn't more exciting to watch than a Tottenham vs Newcastle ? But those were the old days when things were much fairer, i say let's bring back the foreigner limit (no more than 3 or 2 foreigners per squad or per 1st eleven) and see then how much c...p will you give to many football clubs from the big 6/7.

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cry harder efl fan

Lol this falls on the FA and their stubbornness prioritising Carabao cups when they should belong to lower leagues

I'm here right before the second leg happens between PSG & BVB, funny to see this!

I’m here laughing at this clown after BVB advances to the final lol Heja BVB🖤💛

This is uefa last chance to hold off the clubs breaking away from their control. The big clubs want more big matches between each other and this format is designed to give them that.

This literally balances out everything and makes it far more entertaining, you are just too slow to see it

​@magicboy-cn1yb it's only about the money because it's big matches the rest of the world wants to see.

​@bionicgeekgrrl at it's worst (other than the harm of more games) its smaller clubs giving up some revenue for the chance to actually win games. If you're a fan of a smaller club and you're happy to get mauled by real madrid in exchange for an extra bit of cash, over a game you can actually win, you've got no pride as a football fan.

it isn't ESL this new format of CL works well in simulation I know I been Simming it

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@@caven7056 Not every teams are Man City.

Eight matches up from six in group stage is not that much more, when its only two games more, but weird how they added round of 32 technically, because the 9-24 placed teams will play against eachother twice, unitil the winner gets to play in the round of 16.

​@@Jout8-re1ijthey added the round of 32 because they had an unnecessary amount of teams that nobody likes in a changed format nobody wanted

Never been a comment I agreed with so much before in my life. We’re supposed to believe this is the ‘champions’ league yet there’s more losers in here, who finished as far down as 5th domestically, than actual champions, who have to settle for a 3rd tier competition just to get European games under their belt.

The 10th team in the premier league is significantly better than the champions of Czechia or Poland

@@sahibsahota2368 that’s not the point isn’t. It’s called the “ Champions “ League and teams from 5th place will qualify while the real champions need to go through qualifiers. How the football in the Eastern Europe or other countries can compete against top 5 when they don’t let them to win money

@@ventsislavyuzekchiev8304 unfortunate reality is that most viewers want to see top 5 league teams play

@@sach98 TL;DR “I prefer seeing xyz club” is a dumb argument. personally I’m sick of seeing the same 20+ teams play each other in the same group/knockout round every single season. Idc if more people wanna see Liverpool(serial PL losers) play Athletico Madrid every year. People wonder why clubs from Northern Ireland or Lichtenstein never get into Europe, it’s because they have to play 6-8 games home and away just to get into the _group stage,_ where they’ll be handed an impossible group because they’re so far down the coefficient rankings. They can’t get better if they’re annually put against richer clubs that get byes to the later rounds.

"it's generally accepted that the group stages of the CL are not as exciting as they should be" This is because English clubs buy all the best players from around Europe, weakening a lot of teams in the champions league whose best players often go and play for clubs who aren't in the champions league. Football needs to change.

​@@abody499they aren't boring because the best players aren't playing in them. They're boring because if you're the worst team in a group, the only thing you can realistically play for is to drop down to Europa.

@roychen5235 Why do you think Sevilla, Benfica, Lens, Salzburg, Feyenoord, Shakhtar, and others could only "realistically play...to drop down to Europa"? And it's not just those teams - even the better teams like Porto, Leipzig, and PSV lose their best players to English teams not playing in the CL. The quality of the teams playing in the CL has dropped in recent years because of this. It used to be more skewed towards the mid teams losing players to the top teams, then the mid teams buying from those below them, but now there are more and more players going to mid English clubs from all but the very top teams. That's why it would be better to watch the top 16 teams in 2 leagues of 8 playing each other home and away with the top 4 in each league going to a knockout phase. And in the new CL format, there's no balance of home and away fixtures against the same teams.

Football has always changed over time. Maybe you are too young to see the last time Champions League changed. I think this might be even bit better, because in the small groups you already know who will go through and who dosent, so its not that exciting to follow them, while in this big league we can see how well the clubs are currently preforming at football by seeing how many points they snatch after eight games with eight diffrent opponents.

@@abody499it’s cuz the leagues they play in either laliga or serie A only have a handful of top clubs competing for the league title race atleast in the EPL you can be a mega star and still have good stats while playing on a mid team which is alot more rewarding financially and legacy wise other then staying in a league where Madrid and Barca or ac and inter all are at the top of there leagues every season so I’d want to go to the premier league to if I was on athletico ,Dormundt, etc a team that’s good but not good enough to do anything in there own leagues regardless of how well they do in the UCL

That's cus you don't like football, this is an objective improvement

​@@Mdksupreme1 No. You can like football and not like this new format.

we dont like American football format. thanx.@@Mdksupreme1

@Diogo85 this format is objectively an improvement, you're just slow if you don't like it and you claim you like football

@@Mdksupreme1 are you good mate? You're fighting the opinion of a rando online with such vitriol I'm starting to think you're an Infantino burner account.

Everyone can see the system is rigged. The big clubs don't face each other in the group stage right now. Most of the people in these comments are complaining about things that already happen in the current format.

@@roychen5235 100%, you see it every year. Everyone knew City would draw Copenhagen this year

Translation: we will rig the knockout stages

@TheRealCurtisWright wow do you even understand how the pots work?

@@roychen5235 Bro that's because for the draw they're divided in different pots 🤦‍♂

Not really, England has to actually play for an extra spot. Right now, the top 5 leagues don't have to care about their coefficient (I.e., making their domestic leagues competitive).

If you don't like, then you should probably support the Super League where teams from the top league break away from the Champions League and form their own leagues. There are then more places for the champions of smaller nations to play in the Champions League.

Yes, 4 more games if you finish 9-24. 2 more games if you finish 1-8. Conclusion: Win all 8 games!

The problem is you are ranked in a league table in which you don't play all teams in the league. That's unfair.

they get millions and still no bigger risk then in some other hard working jobs that paid minimum wage xD

That coefficient table got me good. lol

Because the pot system is different

Yeah you've been told!!! 😂😂😂

Exactly!

Aston Villa wouldn't be in pot 1.

Tell me you don't know ball

Aston can't won EPL now. Pot 1 the best pot consist of UCL, UEL, and top 7 league winner. For now those pots would filled with Inter, Leverkusen, and PSG. (real Madrid, PSV, and Sporting might have huge potential but let's say if PSG won UCL or Leverkusen won UEL the spot would given to 8th league champions which most likely Union this season)

@@justinsm union what ? you expect us to know what the 8th league is ? xD

Nobody protested about the corruption of the world cup being hosted in Russia, Qatar and soon to be Saudi Arabia. You think they'll do it for this? Football fans are weak, they'll ignore most things as long as there's matches to be watched

@@Michael-cz6ob They can’t be getting away with this!!! 😫😭😭

@@Michael-cz6obThey tried it with Qatar but then all those who argued against it also turned up. Money talks…

​@@Michael-cz6obnobody protested? Plenty of fans did. People just didn't listen

@@alexsilk2611 When you say 'protested' do you mean just complained on the Internet? Just falls on death ears. Look at the viewership for the Qatar World Cup it was still high viewing figures so they know regardless how much people complain they'll still watch

It is horrible. Boring as hell.

This is the entire point. It's uefas last dice roll against the big clubs taking their teams away from their control.

Don't speak for every fan. Some of us actually want to see bigger games

explain why you are against it

​@@mezoori If you cant understand that then you have a massive problem that no one can ever help you with.

@@alanfox691maybe you should explain instead of insulting. I see the problem but not everybody think like you. The only problem is that there are way too much game for the team and players. It's going to be a lot of injuries in the up coming years

It's actually more straightforward. It's just a league with cutoffs. No different to a lower league with playoffs. Top teams go to knockouts. Teams below have a one off match to get through. Others are out. Pretty simple. Not sure whether I prefer it, let's see what it's like

It's no more complicated after league phase. No home away with every team in smaller groups. Only ends up being 2 more games per team and they potentially have less travelling to worry about. Plus they get rid of dropping down the competition. So teams eliminated will have a lot less games, so staying in the competition will be even more important as they will risk huge drop offs in ma5ch and prize money.

It's not complex at all, you're just slow

The end result is just a table of teams from 1-36. It gets more complex the more you care about trying to predict what the result will be. But at the end of the day it is just a table like any domestic league.

Real "Champions League"

The managers will complain because it makes their jobs much harder but for the clubs more games = more money. That'd be the case no matter who they play (see preseason friendlies).

More games > more money > better players and bigger squad ideally

Money

​@@kleec495not on a stretcher or with crutches

Basically read that as U.E.F.A. want to descise the reality if it being fixed so certain club's they favour more than others play each other when they need them to play each other to generate maximum revenue. This is all about revenue nothing else. Football in Europe is starting to lose all credibility there is to much money at stake now In European football I strongly suspect the mast majority of European Leagues are to some extent rigged.

Right like why fix something that is not broken this is not a good format

UEFA simply can't win. Do it digitally, there's claims of corruption. Do it manually, claims of corruption as the "hot balls" are supposedly avoided. Hence why I feel they should send it to an entirely independent third party. Hell, just go out and randomly pick someone off the street or someone that has no interest in the sport whatsoever so as to prevent claims of a fix.

The same ‘computer’ processes helped you type that comment. The future is now.

But hey they have top accounting firms and more software to make sure they don’t get it wrong, we should be okay😂

In all fairness, the ones you're talking about involves aspects that are meant to interact with people and 'learn' from them. The systems that will be creating the schedules won't be doing any of that. They'll basically be doing combinatorics to create schedules that follow specific rules (2 from each group, no opponents from X league, etc.), which is what the algorithms are very good at.

AI != software With a simple algorithm you can surely make certain it is actually neutral.

I guess you are not a Fan of math

Yes, elimination should always have meant total elimination.

Okay bye

Hasta la vista

Same for me

@@stipe9773 Ok sure

@@caven7056 Ok sure

yep it’s actually for money

Thats already happened though, PSG didn't get Messi and Neymar to win Ligue 1. Most of the leagues in Europe only really have 1 or 2 teams that win it most years. The Domestic leagues "destroyed" themselves

Ever since some of the big clubs overspent to break the contract clause to get some players, those clubs then became too big for anyone to stop

You need to lower the pitchfork buddy. Explain why this makes the divide bigger?

@@danielvandam I’m not going to waste my time trying to help you understand basic economics. Hopefully one day you’ll be able to answer your own question

Imagine a team never been domestic league champion but ending up being European champion idk it's weird to me

England gets 3 teams in it

These coefficients are on a season by season basis so if English teams all do trash one season it’s likely we’d only have 4 teams in the ucl

Italy had teams in the final of every European competition last season. It was a Milan derby in the semi finals of the champions league

Thanks to Man U and Newcastle for getting knocked out early in the group stage.

This isn’t about the last 5 years though now is it

I looked it up, getting out of the group gives more bonus points (5) than making it through to the finals (2).

me neither

can you explain why ?

Two extra games. Calm down

4 counting with the KO phase

all games should kick off at the same time i agree. managers have to play what's needed to get results then, no resting players because the night before you secured r16 from another teams loss when you can secure it yourself with a win.

@@plamerj1234 then the problem is when you have many favourite or good team to watch, but you can only watch one game for one team only, lmao..

not at all like the super league

​@@abody499no it's worse and complicated

@@FormulaProgwhy is it worse

actually the ucl should be straight knockout round of 32 should be 2 legs

I think it’s going to be 40 teams for each competition but it’s 8 groups of 5 teams instead of 4. I honestly think it’s the way forward

Supply and demand. If you don't like it, don't watch, they're only doing it cause people are watching.

They just want our money

I want this. This sounds more exciting

​@@freakyholiconly you want this, not us

Hey, I know I am answering late and maybe you already got your answer, but besides the 2 best nations coefficient in the season, one place will be given to 3th place in 5th nation in country's coefficient ranking (France) and another to a champion through qulifications. That's for the UCL, the rest are pretty much the same.

Fair enough, but also under the current format that other team wouldn't get a spot anyways. I like the changes, most people's issues with it are stuff that already happens in the current format.

its called the champions league, the best teams of the best leagues

It's called the champions league... Every single champion has to be in that league. Not the 5th of some league.. @@wowrb

@@b4air not of some leagues, the best leagues

@@b4air Well Dortmund is 5th in its league. And they are in the semi finale even though their player roster is the worst since 15 years

Its already dead since money was involved

Extra time>Away goals

@@Diogo85yup

@@7starsBrowhat7654 absolutely not 😂 there could still be extra time if the away goals were still even. Now there’s no incentive to play proper football away from home. Every single game now has the away team sit back and defend.

Wtf was away goals?

Nobody was against the super league. Problem was there was no relegation. So clam your tits

I don't like that they're adding more games to an already-crowded calendar. I don't like that so many of the extra places are going to the big leagues, creating a bigger gap between the haves and have nots. I don't like how there's effectively no difference between finishing 9th out of 36 and finishing 24th, which will create a lot of games on the final day where one or both teams will have little to play for. I like the end of the 'lucky loser' path to lower level knockouts, but that's about it.

First off, computer-generated draws should be an absolute no-no! Even if they are clean, the lack of transparency and leaves far more room for manipulation. It certainly increases this perception. 2) It is not an even playing field. Under the older format each team was judged seperately based on their perfomance in the group. Some groups can be tougher than other. But it's fair because they all play against each other under euqal condition (once home and once away). Under the new system you are basically comparing teams in one giant table when they will never play each other. Not all teams in those pots are equal. For example, Team X has to face much stronger opponents from pot 2/3, while Team Y has the "fortune" to face weaker ones. Imagine a Premiere League where each club only plays against half the teams. That's not what Sports is about, and in that regard the old format is by far superior. 3) Entertainment. A small group where there is only one parallel game going is easier to follow and thus creates more drama. Look at the WC2022 Group as an example. Now Suppose your team plays in this new format, is currently positioned at 7th, 8th or 9th and is heading into its last game. Good luck trying to keep up with the scores of 17 other matches going on at the same time, which could all influence the final placement. It baffles me how anyone can think this is superior to a group format, in terms of audience engagement, drama and enjoyable entertainment. And if you think so please, offer a rebuttle and explain how 18 simultaniously played matches are more entertaining, when it's way too much to follow or keep track of. 4) More games. As others have said, players are already overfilled in their schedule with games. 2 more matches (4 should a team reach the playoffs) makes players more prone to injury. And before you say it: The answer is not more rotation. Again, what's the point of watching great teams plays when half their star players aren't even playing or are in the sqaud? From an entertainment perspective this is definetally a downgrade, of not for the CL, then modt certainly for their national league. I can go on about other points. Further disparity between the top clubs and the rest. Less chances for upsets or underdog stories. The dilution of quality But hopefully this got your mind joggin' a bit. The new system is by far inferior in many important aspects of competitive football. It tries to copy a league format while still keeping with a Group-Stage -like concept. In germany, we would say _nicht Halbes und nichts Ganzes_. It is far too convoluted and complicated and gets rid of something that was probably the best format there is. Cheers

we could say same thing when the euros was 8 teams while it was 40-45 teams an qualifiers i think only wanting big teams in mostly likely

yep

You bet. The lack of transparency leaves so much more room for this.

still crying

​@@Channel-qt8xeThey're going on trial in 2025.

keep taking nosnse