Explaining Fanatec's Entire Sim Racing Ecosystem (Buyers Guide)

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Fanatec's entire sim racing ecosystem explained as simply as possible
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Main Sim Rig:
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🔴 Cockpit: trakracer.com/products/tr120-...
🔴 Wheel Base: mozaracing.com/wheel-base-r9?...
🔴 Racing Wheel: mozaracing.com/gt-steering-wh...
🔴 Pedals: us.sim-motion.com/products/vn...
🔴 Shifter: amzn.to/38Nb14Q
🔴 Sequential Shifter & Handbrake: amzn.to/3vGXwfW
🔴 Speakers: bit.ly/3yaidT9
🔴 Gaming Headset: amzn.to/3y9mLJD
🔴 Triple Monitor Stand: trakracer.com/collections/mon...
🔴 VR Headset: amzn.to/3KJ7dyL
🔴 Thing that makes my seat vibrate: amzn.to/3FhnXMk
🔴 Wind Simulator: bit.ly/3AYYuFz
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Secondary Sim Rig:
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🟡 Cockpit: amzn.to/37dkq5e
🟡 Wheel: fanatec.com/eu-en/bundles/gra...
🟡 Pedals: fanatec.com/eu-en/pedals/csl-...
🟡 Console: amzn.to/3MThoT8
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My Gaming PC Specs:
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🟢 Case: amzn.to/3tmePQo
🟢 Graphics Card: amzn.to/39IoZCZ
🟢 Processor: amzn.to/3oHaxPZ
🟢 Ram (Memory): amzn.to/3jjmKJB
🟢 Motherboard: amzn.to/3pKqOFh
🟢 Samsung SSD: amzn.to/3czQEYI
🟢 Hard Drive: amzn.to/2MJzXPH
🟢 Power Supply: amzn.to/3rekpSY
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Camera Gimbal: www.gudsen.com/moza-aircross-2
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Time Stamps:
Intro: 0:00 | 1:15
Wheel Bases | 1:15 - 3:39
Wheel Rims | 3:40 - 10:20
Pedals - 10:21 | 11:31
Shifters & Handbrakes | 11:32 - 12:30
Cockpits & Mounting | 12:31 - 13:19
Accessories | 13:20 - 15:31
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@OCRacing 2 года назад

⚠️ Thrustmaster’s Sim Racing Eco System Explained: ⚠️ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zthH99mTyZ4.html

@densfordb4699 2 года назад

If I didn't check to see if you uploaded a new video I likely wouldn't have seen this video for now. The notif button really is hit n miss. Great video as always. Let's say you were only using Fanatec gear what would you go with?

@OCRacing 2 года назад

@@densfordb4699 Probably the CSL DD since its the only one I could ~realistically~ afford...

@densfordb4699 2 года назад

@@OCRacing 8nm am assuming, but I mean no limitations? Maybe that could be a video series 🤔.

@Ghost_Riley_TF141 3 месяца назад

@@OCRacingman we need at 2024 update on this

@stephencutajar2548 2 года назад

It's good you emphasize on how ridiculously expensive certain products and accessories are, because they really are that.

@lrmcatspaw1 2 года назад

Considering how expensive those things are for real enthusiasts (from dedicated companies) I would say Fanatec is NOT expensive. Best thing is, you can buy in the 2nd hand market and get some really sweet deals. I got myself a 911 Porsche RS3 (or was it 2) with some plastic fanatec pedals and a heavy duty metal stand for 130 EURO. Its old, and I had to clean it with alcohol to take off the dried up oils.... but its one hell of a setup for a casual like me. Currently, a CSL DD 8Nm+Podium wheel+V3 inverted pedals+shifter will set you back around 1800 EUR. You can expect to get that in ... 4 years? in 2nd hand market for 1200 EURO. (But you better be checking every day cus that will be bought fast). I already saw 1 ad for a used CSL DD for sale in Poland, but price is way too high. EDIT: Podium classic wheel that is.

@josuelitoescobar8167 2 года назад

U pay what you get. Go with the Logitech if you want something cheaper

@tinyspeaker 2 года назад

@@lrmcatspaw1 .. It's still very expensive.

@lrmcatspaw1 2 года назад

@@tinyspeaker I disagree. I am not going to buy it myself (it is too expensive for how little I would use it), but for a real enthusiast all gear is expensive. The fact is that Fanatec has managed to bring the price down a lot.

@chrisp3139 Год назад

@@lrmcatspaw1 Umm $150 for a 180 Watt PSU is quite a markup

@juderosenquest7177 2 года назад

The idea of a manual 7 speed which can instantly switch to a sequential is unfathomably cool to me

@rickydossantosjr5840 2 года назад

LMAO "for those who don't use turn signals" killed me

@JamieB-E92 2 года назад

Lmao that gave me a good chuckle too, and I drive a bmw 😂😂

@Sebastian-yl7nq 2 года назад

This literally feels like the Apple of Sim-Racing

@Alexsbriggs 2 года назад

For someone who’s just getting into the fanatec ecosystem this video was genuinely very helpful, and the video quality was amazing as always 💪🏻

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed ☺️

@Fouetzky 2 года назад

The BMW turn signal joke was so unexpected but absolutely spot on.

@OhItsThat 2 года назад

It’s time Fanatec starts sending you some stuff. Hell, If I hadn’t sold all my Fanatec gear at the start of the year I would have sent it to you. I practically gave it away.

@hexa8700 2 года назад

Why did you sell it. I just wonder becuase i will buy some fanatec gear

@OhItsThat 2 года назад

@@hexa8700 I used Fanatec hardware for the last 4 years and I wanted out of the ecosystem. Just stay away from the ClubSport shifter and the Podium line and you’ll be good.

@ricardofrancisco7684 2 года назад

@@OhItsThat what's up with the clubsport shifter?

@nvs_official 2 года назад

@@OhItsThat what do you currently use?

@OhItsThat 2 года назад

@@ricardofrancisco7684 it’s notorious for failing. Constantly selecting the wrong gears. I had two that failed me that had to be sent in for repair. One of them twice. The first one failed in the first two months. It’s a known issue with that shifter. Just search around.

@AJAlvarado82 Год назад

Thank you for these videos from each companies eco. I needed this!

@rayhib 2 года назад

This series is great! And useful.

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Good to hear!

@sikhovski 2 года назад

Like and subscribe then

@Jm3208gaming 2 года назад

@shotsby_josh 2 года назад

My cousin has a fanatec setup which he got for free from a friend of his who is a racecar driver and I've tested it out a few times and he has the clubsport wheel gt v2 and I LOVE the way the paddle shifters feel.

@b08m4rt1n 2 года назад

Easiest way to explain their system: Out of Stock Out of Stock Out of Stock Out of Stock Out of Stock Expected delivery: July 2022...

@JacobStevens13 2 года назад

Pay 10x what the sh!t is worth and wait a year...this company must be ran by elon musk

@Thehoeh 2 года назад

This was the video I had been searching for weeks for 🥳🙏

@garywintrop6920 2 года назад

Beautiful. 20 seconds and I got exactly what I needed to know❤️

@deeo4888 2 года назад

05:29 bro just described every form of circuit racing

@thepalmpilot3g 2 года назад

the small jabs throughout the video made it worth the watch!!!! keep it up :D

@OCRacing 2 года назад

😂

@MotoRideswJohn 2 года назад

What a great compilation. I wish I had come across your video a month ago!

@ricardow9281 2 года назад

I';m looking to get into simracing and I've got to say, this is a great guide. Thanks!

@MitchGP 2 года назад

Sick video, just got into Fanatec family myself so very helpful. Well deserved nap

@OCRacing 2 года назад

👍

@shootsir 2 года назад

I recently got interested in driving games and looking for budget DD wheel. This video is really helpful

@sam_95 2 года назад

I love all of these subtle roasts 😂

@ginsunh 2 года назад

Spectacular video. Worth every second of my time.

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Thanks, William 😀 glad you enjoyed

@reintiesing123 Год назад

Brilliant video man, that Train of Thought really got me! 🤣

@saku0207 2 года назад

Very nice vid mate 👌

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Glad you think so :)

@MrGlockshna 2 года назад

nice overview, thanks!

@giogamer4825 2 года назад

Thank you, great video and explanation 👍

@KyleP133 2 года назад

Regarding the Flat 2 V2 and the Round 1, these are much smaller than passenger car wheels. They're meant to emulate open wheel cars, from junior level to 70s-90s F1 stuff. The 270mm diameter is far smaller than the 330-360mm you get in most passenger cars. Generally 300mm is middle of the road, whereas larger ones are more suited for GT/Road cars, and smaller 270mm wheels are more for F1 cars and open wheel cars that require faster adjustments.

@Oswoid123 2 года назад

Great Video! I hope fanatec saw this video and gave you a complete set of their podium line. For sure they sold a bunch of stuff just because of your video

@OCRacing 2 года назад

I wish 😂

@Oswoid123 2 года назад

@@OCRacing okay, so they didn't. Damn man

@DJunclepaul2nd 2 года назад

Thank you for your effort!

@tubzvermeulen 2 года назад

Thanks for the video

@finbob4589 2 года назад

just what I needed

@OCRacing 2 года назад

👍

@pannonianfit1582 8 дней назад

great video man

@BlaXXXima 2 года назад

Great vid

@JoeSmith-fr3hl 2 года назад

Thank you. Explained it better than their website

@killmaster46 2 года назад

I wanted to get into iracing but after this it may be easier to just clap out a civic and real race

@OCRacing 2 года назад

😅

@tunyaa 2 года назад

I think you can burn this amount of cash with buying a civic + 2 track days. And you'llbe around 100 miles tops driven on the track. Meanwhile a kit like this should last for years. Sadly IRL racing is a fuckton of money. (Nonetheless I promised myself also to buy a e36 and work on it to eventually take it out for track days )

@H.KH44N Год назад

THANKS!

@michics100 2 года назад

I have a set of the hanging clubsport V3 pedals so they do exist. They work as designed although I am considering changing to the more traditional floor mount design.

@TheSnafu225 Год назад

Yup, have them too. Though I wouldn't hav gotten them if I didn't get them used for 300ish €

@GlitchyIsNotHere 2 года назад

Hi! you forgot the GT DD pro (idk if it was announced when this vid was made) that is a csl dd wheel base with xbox+ps4+pc compatabilty

@Cardroid 2 года назад

thanks for this review..

@SlightlyM3ntal 2 года назад

I wish they offered more wheels in 350mm. My actual track car wheel is 350mm, and it makes driving on the sim feel a little like a toy with the smaller wheels. 270mm is WAY smaller than most cars. The OEM E36 steering wheels are 350-370mm-ish.

@dolovo_gaming3081 2 года назад

You could get the custom rim base and put your own wheel onto that.

@SlightlyM3ntal 2 года назад

@@dolovo_gaming3081 I've considered that, but then I have to bring the wheel inside, remove the quick-release, re-affix it to the one for the base, then reverse all that before I can use it in the car again. It's too much of a hassle IMO. 270mm is LAUGHABLY small, and makes the wheel feel like a toy. 330mm is the absolute smallest they should go. Most aftermarket wheels are either 330mm or 350mm.

@vjollila96 2 года назад

if your have 6x70mm bolt pattern you can use your track car wheel on it with podium/clubsport hub (dont bother with csl hub its shit)

@balexandre 2 года назад

nice video, to be perfect, I just miss, for someone that only knows Fanatec as a brand name, what do you need to buy for a basic setup seems you need a "hub", some podium wheels come already with it and there's the padel shifter, what mounts where, and what does one really need to buy normally it's main unit + pedals + wheel, but seems there's a bit more we need? maybe someone in the chat can help 😊👌

@milovanbeerendonk5918 2 года назад

I find you're voice very calming.

@johnf.kennedy3175 2 года назад

Just commenting to support you in the algorithm.

@NLTimmy 2 года назад

This video makes it very clear, how Fanatec ended up name-sponsoring IRL racing series

@hmd2125 2 года назад

Great video!

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Thanks Hamad, hopefully it was helpful 🙏

@Itsadrianyay 2 года назад

thanks for including info about price. i want a fanatec wheel

@ripi2571 2 года назад

Great video.

@No_Free_Lunch_Today 2 года назад

Great video. Thanks

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Glad you liked it!

@mylan6140 2 года назад

Thanks for making this video

@OCRacing 2 года назад

👍👍

@DeceasedDuck 2 года назад

great job on 10k subs

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Thank you 🙏

@DeceasedDuck 2 года назад

@@OCRacing np man

@manuelhernandez2017 2 года назад

Hopefully he does not forget us when he's over 100k...

@DeceasedDuck 2 года назад

@@manuelhernandez2017 he wont because we'll still be here

@zethyuen8859 2 года назад

Great series! Maybe explain another brand as well haha

@OCRacing 2 года назад

I did a similar video on Thrustmasters eco system.

@milescolclough2784 2 года назад

@@OCRacing Do logitech :)

@zethyuen8859 2 года назад

Do Simagic:)

@anthonymusendo5552 2 года назад

Bro im going back to school on Monday and ill be back in December 😃 great vid and i hope to come back seeing the grown channel 🙂

@OCRacing 2 года назад

School started this past week for me 🥲 any reason you can’t watch RU-vid while in school?

@anthonymusendo5552 2 года назад

@@OCRacing im a full time boarder 🙂

@curtis501 2 года назад

"for those of you who don't use turn signals" hahahaha love the video, man, very helpful

@powertoker5000 2 года назад

No mention of magnetic paddle shifters in the Clubsport lineup. Make sure you check the specs before you buy.

@manuelhernandez2017 2 года назад

Fanatec is a little much for what I would like to spend, but I'm thinking I should at least look into that H-pattern shifter. It looks nice and seems to be a little bit less pricey than a lot of their lineup

@steveawesome9538 2 года назад

Very good video. Lots of info in a short period of time. If and when I upgrade from my Thrustmaster T300RS set up I may give Fanatec a nod. Hopefully by then they'll make all the wheels compatible with all the DD bases. I just can't see a point in buying the heavy hitter DD's just for 12 more NM's of FFB. I'm just doing this for fun, and I'm guessing I could make my T300 work for me if I really wanted to try and get any further than online racing. But I'm guessing, it's almost as hard to get on to an E Sports Team as it is a real racing team. And even then the baseline to start is IRacing, and that's a commitment in both time and money. If you don't have the time, it ain't worth the money. Especially when you can race plenty of people online in all kinds of different games.

@ADROX555 2 года назад

R u looking to sell ur t300rs

@dam2236 2 года назад

the fact that fanatecs wheels are more expensive than actual steering wheels for actual cars

@natalsheep8566 2 месяца назад

Insane

@TALLBABYD 2 года назад

Question how much would be a good price to pay on the used market for a csl elite base and wheel?

@maciejweber4256 2 года назад

Hi, great video! One thing tho, I'm very confused if you can mix match any wheel series with the CSL DD base? Additionally, can you do the same with the pedals, like, have Clubsport v3 pedals with the CSL DD base? Will it all work ok together?

@607racing 2 года назад

Yes

@on1ons333 2 года назад

This is really great, I've been looking at Fanatecs hardware and have been confused but this helped me out, same with the thrustmaster video, love watching your videos. Also would you say the TMX Pro or G920 are better? I saw in another comment you mentioned T248 but I heard it's releasing almost at the price of a T300

@on1ons333 2 года назад

Also good job on 10k

@OCRacing 2 года назад

I tend to prefer to G920 as it blends a good deal of performance with quality.

@zakarianaciri6103 Год назад

i realy glade i found this video iwas going to buy logitec pro driving

@Alexander-zs5rj Год назад

Automobil Leather = The same Leather that in case of the RS Steering Wheel cause it’s a Porsche Replica like (918 RS Wheel) you become in a Porsche or another German Upper Class Car (BMW,Mercedes,Porsche,Audi). It’s not the Highest Leather Quality (Nappa / .....) but like the Normal or against extra pay (Past Times often)

@fuzzi3125 2 года назад

Nice!!!

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Hope you found it helpful :)

@smallsoop7671 2 года назад

Hey OC! I was looking to get into sim racing and I was wondering what is a good first wheel for a Xbox user. Also, great content. Haven't even watched the full vid but ik its going to be a banger

@OCRacing 2 года назад

I typically recommend the G920. HOWEVER, I will be checking out the Thrustmaster T248 shortly, so stayed tuned 👀

@smallsoop7671 2 года назад

@@OCRacing thanks so much! can't want for the t248 vid!

@dbabu51 2 года назад

TMX is a good one to start with

@FoxiKittyPayday 2 года назад

as a g29 owner (the g29 is the same as g920 just for playstation) i would say for the first wheel get a g920/g29 its high quality plus its pretty easy to wheel swap the g29/g920 and for a first wheel you dont need the ffb of a tmx when you can still break your wrist when playing beamNG

@smallsoop7671 2 года назад

@@dbabu51 the pro version right? I've heard that the normal versions pedals are trash

@jizecai4252 2 года назад

suggestion: you can include torque of those wheelbase, which makes the significant difference between each model

@frankcarino7643 Год назад

Vegetable studio ( ac initial d content creator) uses the clubsport v3 inverted pedals and a momo Honda wheel rim

@ammarisrar2005 2 месяца назад

Which wheel / base combo would you recommend for someone on a budget?

@Superfrogggg Год назад

you think the csl dd will ever be available again on their website?

@Carenthusiast607 2 года назад

this video is criminally underrated

@OCRacing 2 года назад

🥲

@nikhilwadekar565 2 года назад

The extra $50 for the PS4 CSL Elite is for Sony's hardware compatibility license

@bscoggs 2 года назад

One day I want to get a whole rig setup for the F1 games, knew it was gonna be expensive but I'm realizing now that it'll prolly be 2-3k at least. Lol

@kinangeagle133 2 года назад

Donut Media is literally the only people i’ve seen use the Rennsport cockpit outside of sim racing expos

@OCRacing 2 года назад

‼️‼️‼️

@lrmcatspaw1 2 года назад

You get a like because of the DD for playstation thing made me laugh.

@OCRacing 2 года назад

😂🤝

@minibullet91 2 года назад

Will the clubsport steering wheel RS work with the CSL DD for together? Fanatec takes forever to answer anything!

@shurayhbux9170 2 года назад

Wish I could afford this

@OCRacing 2 года назад

We all do 🥲

@Monsterracing19 2 года назад

I think they made the csl elite pedals come with a third pedal as well

@RavenWithSwords 2 года назад

CSL Elite Pedals come with a Load Cell upgrade that will add that third pedal, but they've been discontinued

@frontierroleplayofficialch4155 2 года назад

Your videos are so informative and helpful! More of a sim drifter and I'm looking into getting a Thrustmaster TH8A for my t300 could you do a video on one soon?

@frontierroleplayofficialch4155 2 года назад

Also congrats on 10k!

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Yes! I will be receiving a TH8A shortly 😀

@frontierroleplayofficialch4155 2 года назад

Nice

@manuelhernandez2017 2 года назад

@@OCRacing hell yeah, would love to see your thoughts on it. I'm in the market right now for a shifter. I did some research and along with your review on the g920 wheel I made the choice and really love it for it's price tag ($230). Your opinions on every aspect of the wheel was dead on! I think I will wait for your thoughts on the th8a before I make a decision. Any idea when you'll be able to review it and post?(approximately?)

@OCRacing 2 года назад

@@manuelhernandez2017 review will hopefully be up by the end of this month 🤞

@justinburtonracing5135 2 года назад

If I use a clubsport RS wheel and clubsport hub on a Podium DD2 will I get the full 25NM torque?

@Panster7 2 года назад

CSL DD cost like 700-800 USD where I live. Absurdly expensive. I'm jealous of you guys 😂

@aaravranjan9932 Год назад

For anyone with a fanatic f1 sim setup, which pedal is recommended if money is not a problem for me

@mahmoud-khaled-abo-elmagd 2 года назад

awesome

@mariosloizides5331 2 года назад

Good morning Tαπεζα all thank you for the amazing video can I clamp them the one on the table? Thank you for your time my regards to all of you

@kevinuploadingwhatever 2 года назад

I wish there was a good budget shifter option (Logitech shifters needs mods to be considered "good")

@davidk6408 2 года назад

TH8A Shifter

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Yeah, I’m expecting a few to be released in 2022 hopefully.

@macho1212 2 года назад

@@davidk6408 200+ dollars really isn't considered budget for a lot of people.

@Porkarific 2 года назад

SHH Shifter

@zwenkwiel816 2 года назад

@@macho1212 isnt the th8a like 150 or something though? that's how much it cost me at least. in any case shifters are expensive because they're kind of a niche item in an already niche market. simply put they charge this much because they can. it's a pretty decent shifter though and the build quality is really good. it's pretty much indestructible

@nickbroekman9360 2 года назад

Dont they have complete sets giving a discount when you buy the whole shebang?

@canadianoperator Год назад

What's great about these products is that platform compatibility is also interchangeable to a degree. For instance... For Playstation compatibility, you need a wheel base which is compatible with Playstation, and then you can use ANY wheel, even one made for Xbox, and the wheel base will MAKE that wheel compatible with Playstation. For Xbox, you NEED an Xbox wheel, but it doesn't matter which wheel base you use. That means if you have a Playstation wheel base but want to use it on Xbox, it won't work if you use a Playstation wheel. But, put an Xbox wheel on it, and it will MAKE the wheel base compatible with Xbox. The reason for this is that the respective security chips for Playstation and Xbox are in the wheel base and wheel (respectively). I found this out after browsing the Fanatec website for some time, and it's actually brilliant, because I really wanted the McLaren V2 GT3 wheel, but my wheel base is PS compatible. Because that wheel is an Xbox wheel, and my wheel base is a PS wheel base, it actually means I can use that combination on ALL THREE PLATFORMS. Absolute genius, Fanatec!

@randomfrequency 2 года назад

And please, take a comment too for the algorithm. Excellent delivery.

@OCRacing 2 года назад

🤝

@simracerone2218 2 года назад

Just ordered inverted pedals. I'll let you know how good they are!

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Please do!

@theallu8508 2 года назад

So can you mount podium pass wheel base to a normal table

@schwuppdiewupp7 2 года назад

What‘s the difference between the last 3 wheel bases? Does it just have more Nm and a better design?

@Aaron_Designs_NL Год назад

Because they got series in their name it sounds almost like a motorsport ranking XD. CSL: Competitive Starter League ClubSport: (Clubsport is already a rank on its own, just like you can see in gt7 café lol) Podium: For the ones who got experience with standing on the podium places.

@Team_SpaceX 2 года назад

yay fanatec vid

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Still no gear though 😞

@Team_SpaceX 2 года назад

yea 🙁

@SPAHI43 2 года назад

I'm going to buy their v3 inverted pedals, clubsport steering wheel, shifter + handbrake. So all of these looks like top tier, but also I want to buy CSL DD + boost pack instead of DD1. So my question is, is it good enough to fit with other products? Because it costs like pedals haha.

@wayfvl7604 2 года назад

When you start judging the product from its price

@Deleted_Alt 2 года назад

"The clubsport handbrake which I heard has a tendency to brake" Honestly I'd be worried if it couldn't! I'll be going now.

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Delete this comment. 😂

@shotsby_josh 2 года назад

my cousin has the clubsport pedals v3 inverted

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Interesting...

@yourboysgottem202 2 года назад

Can you use a thrust master sf1000 steering wheel with a fanatec wheel base?

@OCRacing 2 года назад

Unfortunately not

@XXXXHP 2 года назад

I know I’m a bit late and all but as of writing I swear the first three fanatec wheelbases mentioned are harder to find (used obviously) than a diamond!! And if you do find them they’re overpriced to the same price as a CSL DD!!