@@richardtbrown756 There is a significant influence by African, particularly Nigeria and Ghana, and South Asian immigrants as well. It is more diverse than "Jamaican cockney"....🙄
His accent is MLE, multicultural London English, it’s a working class accent that has emerged mostly from cockney in areas with a large proportion of ethnic minorities. For anyone who doesn’t know RP, his initial accent wasn’t that, and his second accent wasn’t cockney. I’m not sure what “roadman” is.
He's not talking RP He's not talking cockney either Road men get their accent from television they think it makes them sound cool and edgy back in the day posh middle class white boys from the home counties would study characters like Ali G and copy the way he spoke 😅
My accent is also a combination of all three. I try to use RP at work but always end up reverting to my true accent, which is a combination of Cockney and MLE. My parents had the Cockney accent and I was surrounded by MLE throughout school, so that is how that happened I guess. People always know I'm from London though.
RP is not speaking white. RP is neutral language that anybody in business can understand, which is the point of communicating. In the business world you will be speaking with native and non-native english speakers and makes it the most efficient. This sort of very basic logic eludes many that want to infer race into that type of speaking.
As a non-Londoner Brit, that was super interesting. The Cockney accent you don sounds completely different to the one we imagine from outside London. I think we must be imagining an older generation (maybe like Bradley Walsh(?)). Very enlightening to hear an updated example. Thank you and keep up the good work!
Cockney rhyming slang is its own thing Usually spoken in an east London accent (now what people would call an Essex/Kent accent) as everyone in London now talkings like a road man and all the old londoners have moved out to surrounding areas
Its kind of fvcked they refer to the last accent as "unintelligent" ive NEVER heard that accent in a british situation because it sounds pure carribean/jamaican
For anyone wondering the cockney (who will almost always be white) also has to go to RP for a job interview too 😂 cause it’s not just about race here it’s about class as well
Man, and here I am finding this video from searching "London accent" thinking London would pretty much just have one. At least I didn't just search "British accent" lol
Well these aren’t really London accents (apart from Cockney) - they can be heard across the UK - they just originated there. RP came out of educated people and MLE out of multicultural areas in cities, though I guess the London variants of this were the ones that ended up being used by these demographics
So are intelligence and education. Memorising how to conjugate Latin verb doesn't make you intelligent oit makes you a pretentious snob.we see totally uneducated people like Joeyessex,Gemma Collins,Danny Dyer etc earning fortunes while those with university degrees are begging and queueing up for jobs stacking shelves or serving fast food. Despite their university Education they struggle to understand why people with a masters degree in Hollyoaks or the secret language of cats aren't in demand 😅
German here - when studying in London in the 90s pretty everyone was speaking RP... when I lived in Hong Kong RP was a bit more chinese influenced, but still RP... Then I moved back to London 30yrs later and really had problems to understand the people
@chilliam00 Cockney is very old... never said it came later... MLE is not cockney as far as I researched... Back then in University it was way easier to understand everyone than it was yrs later when I actually was far better bc meanwhile I worked and lived in NYC, Dubai, Hong Kong, Singapore...
Keyword: "studying" You'll only hear it in academic circles or white collar jobs. Blue collar/less educated people usually have a cockney accent. That's now so it would've been more true in the 90s when Universities were likely less accessible to the working class
Same. From Manny, but I've been told I sound like I'm from sometimes Birmingham, other times London. Probably because I don't sound like Liam Gallagher.
It's Jamaican Patois mixed with Cockney (because of Windrush/immigration) nothing to do with African dialect. Anyone with a bit of skin colour in the UK follows the Jamaican/Caribbean influence 😏
A "roadman" in Liverpool will have an entirely different accent to a roadman in London.All our accents are a combination of many. As is the American accent the USA is made ip of people descended from immigrants from all over the world. The first British settlers were from the West County which is quite similar to today's American accent.zMix that with Scottish Irish Italian German, Spanish, Yiddish African Chinese and many more 😅
There are more than 40 accents in my local pub it's in SE London most of the regulars have cockney accents the landlord and many customers are irish the baff are from Portugal,Bulgaria and Ecuador.in my own social drinking group are a scotsman a Welsh man about four cockneys a couple of paddies two west Indians a guy from Leeds another from Middlesborough a Nigerian girl and a Turkish guy that's on a normal day when its busy there's a lot more sometimes there's even an American or two in the company nobody seems to have any problem understanding what anyone else is saying 😂
I'm 63 and white so MLE has never been my accent. I do like the fact that new accents are fluid and change but also have a nostalgic feeling when I come across people who've kept a cockney accent. I describe my accent range between estuary and posh depending on who I'm with. I don't see that as devious, just making others comfortable. I feel like these accents present different parts of me even though I'm still poor!
Your cockney doesn’t sound cockney. My mate was brought up in the east end in the 60’s and he’s proper cockney! There’s Soulf London accent, Norff London accents as well.
I think most British people think the same about Americans and vice versa of course. I think as countries have become more interconnected we have seen a greater number of people speaking fusion accents such as yourself. Which is where a lot of the confusion comes from as its harder to tell where one accents starts and ends as they are all becoming closer in terms of how they sound. Not to mention it is for all intents and purposes impossible to define how many accents both America and the UK have with estimates ranging from as low as 3 to as high as over 100 regional accents in the US. Similar to the UK most Americans would group the majority of the accents heard in the UK as being in only a couple of groups being scottish, posh, london, and “peaky blinders”. Very similar to how most people from the UK know of American accents as being either general american, southern, northern, or “valley girl”. When there are innumerable variations within each major group just like the UK! As an example take the state of North Carolina which is widely regarded as potentially the most linguistically diverse state in the US. There is the Pamlico sound accent in the outerbanks of NC that funnily enough sounds like an Cockney accent, which can be seen by the name the speakers have given themselves, “Hoi Toiders”. Then you have the Appalachia accent of western NC, the general American accent of the cities, white southern accent, black southern accent, and the Lumbee accent. Sadly as time marches on the unique sounds and phrases of regional US accents are fading and slowly morphing together. Here is to hoping both the US and UK can keep the interesting and rich cultural history of our varied accents alive and spread more knowledge like you did in this video!
His first accent was actually the estuary accent aka London neutral accent. This is the accent which is like the accent which is in between RP and cockney. People who try speak well for an interview are most the time actually speaking with this accent and not RP.
I've lived in England for 2 years and work on the phone a lot. Some clients from different areas have such a heavy regional accent that I can not understand 90% of what they say. I live in the SouthWest and the accents here are mostly ok, a bit country but not too unintelligible.
Its Jamaican with a London and cockney accent and slangs. It was never called roadman before. Thats new. Its called MLE by linguists but we just recognise it as London-Jamaican mixed with others.
Road man is literally a rip off of a Jamaican accent Brit’s have plenty to chose from idk why my generation has to make up new shit stick with that cockney accent brother it suits you
As a West Londoner I can’t stand cockney accents. In Ealing Broadway almost nobody speaks with a cockney accent. A lot of North Londoners sound funny to me haha.
I'm from Feltham/Hounslow. I've always had something close to a Cockney accent. More like estuary English. People always think I'm from Essex. But a proper Feltham person of my age would usually be much closer to Cockney
@@BellyJaeI went to Croydon one time with a friend to see what Heart Of Gaming is like. It’s a pretty rundown area, but I didn’t hear any cockney accents there to be honest. You hear more rude boy accents there. If I remember correctly Stormzy is from there right? It would be jokes if I bumped into him haha.
@@davidostrowski679Yeah, there’s still some parts in West London where you hear similar kind of accents albeit they’re no where near as strong as East London accents of 2nd generation British Born Cypriots in North London. It’s become a thing of the past pretty much. Anyway, in Ealing Broadway I mostly hear standard refined accents.
@@user-zx4fj1ec4kpronouncing as is called th-fronting. It’s most common in london accents and surrounding areas (essex, kent, etc.) Could it be possible that people from outside these areas th-front? Yes. Is it common? No
No, it’s an accent used by the elite, often public school educated (which, to confuse matters, means you have to pay privately for school), it’s not regional. Think queen’s english. His example was nowhere close to RP
Yeah RP is essentially non-existent now and is not really a ‘London’ thing. It was modelled off upper-class speakers from London, sure, but it’s not at all reflective of the wider speech community in London. Even the Queen’s English, for example, does not count as RP. Royal English has some slight changes that makes it sound even more formal than RP. Also RP is an out of date term. General British, or GB, is the preferred term.
Not really. It was sort of based on how educated Londoners speak, but it can be found absolutely anywhere in the UK, especially in academia and white collar areas.
Not really. It was sort of based on how educated Londoners speak, but it can be found absolutely anywhere in the UK, especially in academia and white collar areas.
@@Drugsarenotcoolbefore linguists called it MLE we called it Jamaican and London slang/accent. Never heard the term MLE until a few years ago and been around these ppl 30 years.
