Explaining Pyra & Mythra's Massive Hitboxes (Smash Ultimate) 

That... Explains why I've noticed it being so inconsistent, killing heavies insanely early (well, compared to anything else Mythra can do at least,) but then not doing as much as I'd expect to lightweights. Good to know.

@@ElecManEXE yup 👍

wow, neat!

Oh my God it does...

That's awesome!

Yes he should’ve

Or privileged and massive

Or passive and massive

Hitboxes aren’t the only thing

Yes

It's alliterative for Mythra

just like nintendo likes their lawsuits

@@waylonidris5163 no

@@waylonidris5163 You'd be right, nobody cares

@Easton Joaquin *shut*

Taste the rainbow with a hint of fire and light

sees province revolt hotbox: Is that a snowman

Sephiroth would be so jealous. He only has grape and orange skittles, MythPy has the entire rainbow.

This move needs to be fixed, it doesn't break tought guy and the priority is awful, it klanks with jabs and get beaten by some tilts, it's nuts.

@@noirlavender6409 it's like bayo's smash attacks,it's supposed to be situationally used.

@@ahmadkazan217 at least flame nova kills and do much damage, but yea is weird that doesn't break thought guy

@@noirlavender6409 A lot of moves don't break Bowser tough guy tho. Just remember that when playing bowser's

Cozy A lot of weak moves that don't put the users in danger*, such as certain weak jabs or ranged moves. It doesn't make sense for a move with such vulnerability and power to be unable to break through tough guy.

Yes

What about photon edge? Also sakurai: Y E S

The whole rainbow and then some

What about Flame Nova? And also Sakurai: *Y E S*, also make the hitboxes look like a sandwitch.

Anyone else severely hate fighting these 2? I love my girls, but MAN they need to chill out

Also, you can only reflect the "boomerang" part of it and not the "PK Fire" one.

the blazing end of your life

It really does look like it should be a boomerang, but it's not.

I don't think Photon Edge being disjointed is that bad. If you want to contest the move just shield it and you can punish with a smash or any combo starter. It does provide the benefit of beating more stuff out but that's it. You can also still trade with it with the right move and it loses to projectiles straight up

The amount of times I literally was stuck for a full second before the other 50 hitboxes hit me from side b is insane.

I prefer Mythra as a waifu of course

I really don't wanna answer that

Pyra's range on everything is much better so massive hitboxes is more about Pyra

@@Bladieblah Apply more context because someone may get the wrong idea

Ah that’s why I can’t spike with mythra which sucks because pyra has the worst recovery in the game

@@Fentnihilator Pyra is nowhere near having the worst recovery in the game.

@@applemoose9675 pretty much she has. The horizontal distance is literally non-existant and the vertical is not so high. Ganon at least can prevent at certain degree edgeguarding and mac horizontal recovery is minuscule, but exists.

Ur fault for not playing dlc :shrug:

@@applemoose9675 She's definitely down there, Mythra's even worse. I think you would have a tough time naming 10 characters with worse recoveries than them. I'm not 100% sure about Mythra because photon edge to ledge might or might not be punishable with aerial spikes or other aerials. They can end up off stage on fairly early percent in a position where they have forced recoveries (only one clear recovery route) or situations with very few options. Any hit that sends far horizontally is an awful scenario for them. I agree Ganon's is worse because he lacks Pyra's air speed/floatiness, has a bigger hitbox and smaller vertical distance than her plus slower travel time and worse hitbox on his recovery. Mac's recovery is severely underrated because he has one of the best air speeds in the game, side B beats out practically everything and you can't challenge up B from above. Even Samsora has said Mac is not that easy to edgeguard. Pyra's and mythra's is worse imo

We both know the dlc characters always be better than the non-DLC👀

@@dorianoryan7178 except Banjo

@@SabreSmasher oop🤭

@@SabreSmasher The most non-DLC DLC Ultimate character ever. :P

@@mathunit1 Even more non-DLC than Piranha.

Or maybe that was neutral B

​@@RTDelete I find the flame nova particularly interesting. They know the autolink angle can fail sometimes and instead they use multiple angles to launch closer to Pyra but not too close. It makes sense if you consider she can move while doing the attack, making necessary more hitboxes than usual.

@@N12015 ALL OF THE HITBOXES

@@RTDelete With that order we wan identify which were done by a student in practice and which by a professional. Mythra's Neutral B was made by an student, as well as the F-airs and B-airs, while Pyra was made by someone with more experience, and the same goes for the tilts.

My thoughts exactly.

*Just like their ti-*

*neutral b

@@nuttellaguy6315 Still hits behind tho

gabsr The second hitbox*

@@frlfrl2098 That sucks you into the rest

@@mystcat3 Yes

and huge... absolutely massive... HORRIFYINGLY HIGH AMOUNTS OF COMBO POTENTIAL GOD HELP ME

Good joke

I want to Thanos snap them into chroma dust

Can we Blazing end this

in ultimate fall speed is automatically set to a value (i recall it was 1.8) while in hitstun

Pyra lives 4% longer than Mythra

“Sword”

Hey now, Smash is for good boys and girls.

@Festive Boi That's probably a good thing

Mythra's "massive melee" hitboxes?

Should’ve been *’Pretty Massive’* And it represents both Pyra and Mythra

They’d have to change the game’s rating if DLC fucks their hitboxes.

Nope, Ike is pretty much dead in the metagame at this point.

Is it me or are the janky characters the most fun?

Not really but it would be nice to see visuals, specifically on why Back Air and Forward Smash outright miss opponents at times.

@@Bloyster_Sauce No, they are so much fun. Trust me, I played King K. Rool for so long and enjoy dominating with him from optimal plays.

@@PrettyKoolCrocodile yeah, and somehow at other times they reach too far

@@PrettyKoolCrocodile hell yeah. And when you get a double hit on a gordo! Mmmm. Ooh or when you only hit the weak part of marths upsmash.

dude ur bayo.... don't be complaining about no foresight with that bs witchtime

@@sofakingstewpid if that was useful in ultimate i wouldn't be complaining

@@andresmiltongutierrezorteg2764 it is useful, uptilt any attack and just smash attack them.. 1 2 easy done it

@@sofakingstewpid then maybe I'd you having a bad time in di, since almost none tilt combo into a smash attack

@@sofakingstewpid lmao are you really complaning about bayo in ultimate. The character is like top mid tier at best.

Now I've got something to test... Thank you.

@@SuperZeve my source is one guy from twitter so take it with a grain of salt

Bowser went to line 27 for me. Pichu went to line 25, but a swing missed pichu. :/ Adding about the amount of damage as the damage of the missed swing, Pichu goes to line 28.

Same, except reverse for me. If I'm playing my friends during our weekly smash night, if one of us is losing too hard we'll just switch to Pyra/Mythra and immediately turn the tables. Beyond her incredibly good mobility, kill power, and combo potential, it's the fact that she has no weaknesses. Every move save 1 or 2 has fast startup, low endlag, large area coverage, and long range. That PLUS Foresight is simply absurd. When she first came out, immediately upon playing her for the first time I told my buds she was the best character in the game, by far. All the pros were putting her into high tier and saying she wasn't OP, but every month she has risen in everyone's tier lists and now she's in Top 5. I think as the meta continues to develop, eventually she will be either considered the best of the Top 5 or even in a tier by herself like Meta Knight or Bayonetta were in the past. Just wait until MKLeo or someone of his caliber decides to put serious tournament effort into her.

Pain

Milkies