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It's probably because Null is not canon and is just a concept, and if haze is right, then it is probably an unknown kwami, remember master fu didn't know everything and su-han hasn't really done anything
it may also be possible that Null either escaped and thus, was left unaware or he has been born out of the imbalance caused at the end, as we know Kwamis are born out of new concepts, maybe this sense of concept did not exist properly
The balance was affected. When it is influenced by both the miraculous of destruction and creation, that's where Null is needed. Let's just hope that, if it is him, he wouldn't be limited to a plot material. The Astruc Syndrome.
Null is such a interesting concept, I mean… it’s a “butterfly” effect from the wish, it’s perfect, hence one of the reasons the WISH cannot be used hence null will be unleashed
@@hazeclarkenull has 2 forms, positive and negative form, one to wipe other manifest abstract energy could restore wiped existence but can't return them if the multiverse say no
I never heard about Null and the story you provided for them sounds so interesting! It fits to Miraculous theme about the balance and can make this unhinged ending actually work.
I could see him being the Kwami of “Reversion” and him having some sort of grudge since the mage that created the Miraculous didn’t tie him to one seeing him as being to dangerous
This theory is absolutely amazing and it actually makes so much sense.. I want it to be Null now.. because that would make next season, just that much better and that much interesting and the stakes would be way higher, and I think it would create for a very interesting and dark plotline for miraculous and it would really set the stakes for the future seasons.. Maybe Null will get tied to Lila's bracelets and even if she loses the butterfly, she would still have this miraculous because no hero, would know of this miraculous.. and I think it's a great way of still keeping Lila as the villain.. This was a great theory video :D
Maybe it has nothing to do with the video but I personally hope they don't make Lila want the miraculous the same way Gabriel did, if she has to lose then it would be better to make her enjoy being a villain and using her powers, that way she wouldn't win because she doesn't want to and would only try to steal the miraculous sometimes or if she sees an opportunity that it's too big to pass up, that way it wouldn't be like a copy of Gabriel or make her look ridiculous as a villain like he did sometimes.
the reason she wants the miraculous is for mari to die and for adrien to love her fuck you lie-la i fucking hate lie-la she can go die in hell for all i care
A new kwami being the villain of the show? I am definitely interested. What is more terrifying after a happy ending? That ending being erased by a larger evil. I have heard about Null but was unsure what that kwami was designed to do... but looking at those concepts, it would make sense that Null would be fitted as an evil that appeared AFTER Gabriel got defeated. It makes little sense why Null would exist while he had the name of Hawk Moth. Another interesting thing to bring up again as a note is how Kwamis are born. Kwamis are formed whenever a new abstract idea or emotion comes into existence of the universe, so Tikki is Creation, Plagg is Destruction etc. While we don't see how they are birthed into existence, there being lightning and a bright light to appear before seeing the Kwami feels like it is the equivalent of something existing out of nowhere in the universe aka The Big Bang - minus the bazingas. Lila would noticed that and will have to create a piece of jewelry (likely a bracelet) to be able to communicate with Null. I think for Null, its idea would have to be *Obliteration* which could work as a emotion that lines up perfect as a pairing to Lila since her vision is revert all of the changes that the wish has made to work in her favor. If Null existed due a trigger to work against Gimmi - the idea or emotion would be *Idealism* which is the unrealistic belief in pursuit of perfection... but I stuck to my guys with Obliteration since we already got Longg with Perfection. Lila will definitely have a lot of explaining to do, but Null would be a force that will definitely change how we see with Miraculous... so much to the point that Lila would actually want to work with her rival for a common evil. If Hawk Moth wasn't terrifying, Null would definitely be terrifying! Edit: If you don't believe me that Null would be the greatest baddie, literally just rewatch Cat Blanc. White and cyan is what his colours was, and he almost wiped out the entire universe with his Cataclysm.
Maybe Null always appears after a Gimmi wish, as the antithesis of Gimmi, to someone who has been harmed by the person making the wish. Maybe Null, as the Kwami of nothingness, seeks to return the world to a state before the wishes take place, i.e. the default universe free of Gimmi's influence. The Kwami's clearly don't like when Gimmi grants a wish. Even Plagg and Tikki seem to be reluctant to do so, even though it's their power combined that makes Gimmi.
it would actually be interesting, maybe somehow a plot twist could be Null siding with them and Gimmi being defeated/reversed (in a way, not completely but partially, it could be that Gimmi also becomes its own full kwami or smthn)
I too had a small theory with this that once the wish’s power was used, it would release null. (I had a small story that null was somehow trapped in Gimmi or a wish via another wish because he was too powerful or something but then freed once a new wish was made.)
Another Theory - Maybe it's an effect of the imbalance, like maybe there's a need of a full balance and this lightning is slowly being shown and gets worse and worse or Maybe it might be a wierd malfunction of the wish or maybe she was upgrading the butterfly miraculous and it went wrong but in a good way for her and also bad making more unstable and allowing her to transcend the barrier of the rules and send multiple akumas and akumatise a perfectly happy civilian or this upgrade is different or maybe the butterfly miraculous is being upgraded to hold new certain powers. Loved the video.
whilst i am thinking what if gimi Fragmented into 3 instead of two due to the shenanigans of gabriels wish effectively Tricking gimi into performing an In-equivalent wish that has effectively put a hole into reality Not of destruction but a lack of existing in the first Place Making Null and Setting in line a potential domino effect that only Null can see that could cause Gimi and its Components to break apart into even more pieces. but astruc would have to be a good writer to come up with something Complex and give it any Nuance)
I feel like if null where to ever exist in the mlbverse he would only be able to be invoked by the ladybug and black cat miraculous the same way they invoke gimmi but instead they say "null reveal yourself" but anythings possible🤷♂️
I don’t think nooroo would be replaced, but if nulls power is to “erase” things I feel like Lila would have both of the miraculous (cause let’s be real only having the butterfly is boring and will be like season 1-3) to use to her advantage. Lila’s main goal is to make marinettes life miserable states by her line “I look forward to seeing you again, marinette dupain Chang” so I feel like she’ll use that “erasing” power to erase any traces of foul play she has done to make marinette seem bad or in general to slowly break the friend group apart. As for the butterfly, I strongly believe she’ll try to make her self seem like a “good” holder and will actually help the people out, this way ladybug and her team can’t really do anything without looking like the “bad” guys, and Lila also hates ladybug so that’s a proper motive. She’ll most likely cause akumatizations in the shadows and erase any trace of them even being akumatized so ladybug can’t even fix anything with her miraculous ladybug. Slowly things and maybe even people will start disappearing one by one which will give an eerie vibe and fits the “things are not as they seem” type of theme, and with this power she can truly make marinette “all alone” like she wanted making it seem like all her friends ditched her leading to her akumatization, and only Lila would find out her identity and use it to her own advantage, since everyone else would be “gone”, they would still not know her identity to make the reveal still plausible. (funny enough cat blanc was also left all alone during his akumatization) The second half of my theory is a bit far fetched but that’s what I think would happen if the idea of null was introduced, I still believe my theory of Lila trying to seem like a good “hero” as the butterfly miraculous to the people of Paris being 100% true cause that’s just Lila’s nature. Bonus speculation: in perfection Lila says the line “Soon you’ll have no one left marinette, soon, you’ll have *nothing* “ this could be foreshadowing Null so yes, I believe this theory 100% As for the people thinking it’s “Gabriel’s ghost” or “Gabriel stuck in a miraculous” respectfully think better, cause Gabriel’s arc is DONE. At most he will pop up as a kwagamata appearance, so let that theory be over with already🙄
Y'all realize it's probably nooroo, right? She put on the the moth miraculous, and when she did, the kwami. It's probably a corrupted nooroo, that COULD be null.
They revealed on twitter ages ago that Adrien chose his superhero name based on a book his mum would read to him about a hero called Chat Noir. I guess it's the book-version of Chat Noir that the matchbox is designed after
This is a good theory, but I'm not really sure if they'll bring back an old idea and put it in the current show. Null should've been mentioned some time ago since such a powerful character would have to be mentioned at least once earlier. But then again, they never mentioned Gimmi before Season 5 Finale so there could be a possibility.
Okay, first thing, does *Null* have sibling or twin named *Void* , that way they can be the duo; *Null and Void* 😂😂😂. (Sorry, I saw a joke there and I couldn't help myself) Next, it would be an interesting twist if they did incorporate Null into the story along with making them a twist character connected to the Re-verse Universe. Like say Null is a kind of chaotic neutral kwami whose power is almost equivalent but still lesser to Gimmi. The reason Null isn't present so could be that in the earliest stages of reality, Gimmi saw how chaotic and concerning Null's views were to the balance. So Gimmi imprisoned Null in a black hole type of place that exists in between time and space, and very few Kwamis are aware of Null's presence. Now, the Original Universe's Null could still be imprisoned, however, in the Re-verse Universe, the Re-verse version of Null is the actual Supreme using either Master Fu or Su Han as their puppet. Now due to the wish, Re-verse Null could have been transported to Lila's location for some reason or the Original Null could have been freed from their prison and sent to Lila's location either as Null's Kwami form or a shapeshifted form that could aid Null in manipulating Lila ( *oh, the irony* ) to be Null's puppet and while Lila thinks she's in control, she's actually a tool to aid in Null's plans under the assumption that Null's advice is helping her plan up until the moment Lila is no longer of use to Null and gets dumped in a cosmic ditch somewhere while the heroes deal with an evil overpowered Null. Though with a scenario like this, will Lila have a tragic villain ending, a karmic villain ending or a redemption ending, and I'm not sure if I should laugh or be concerned if the writers entertain the idea of a redemption ending for Lila when she shows no will to redeem, but then again we don't know her full motives. So we'll have to wait and see if her motives are worthy of sympathy or just straight up insane. I do feel like one of the endgame goals for the show is that Nooroo will eventually gain a good holder amd the rise of a butterfly hero in the Original Universe either at the end or with the rise of a villain connected to the Miraculous but isn't a butterfly holder maybe.
I feel like Chloe would be the holder of the butterfly as the “true” redemption but that might be a bit far fetched Most likely mrs bustier would get it😭
Interesting idea - but until it gets confirmed either way I guess it'll just remain a... Null Hypothesis (only the real statisticians will get this joke)
Maybe it's not the most appropriate but I wanted this light to be Gabriel trapped in the Miraculous for what he did, he needs punishment and the other characters need to know the truth and see him one more time so they can understand the gravity of the situation and move on(Adrien especially because he thinks his father really was a good person, or maybe he's pretending to make others happy like he did before, if he still has the memories of what Gabriel did then he must be conflicted...).
This whole “Gabriel’s spirit” or ghost trapped in miraculous theory is dumb, sorry. It makes no sense. Adrien will most likely talk to him through the kwagamata.
Could this be the "new villian thats always been in the show" especually in season 1 or 2. Would null be hidden in plain sight or his combo hidden? I believe it was said this villian would show the miraculous goes deeper than we know.
Hi Haze, I like the idea of the Kwami Null coming into play, but I have another theory I'd like to share with you. So remember in Timetagger, Bunnix states that future Cat Noir damages her Miraculous? I think that maybe the future version of Bunnix may have come to visit Lila. I think this because the light and lightning appearing around Lila was blue and the shade of the Bunny Miraculous. Also, the lightning may have symbolized the damaged Miraculous. For things levitating? The Peacock Miraculous was modified in appearance and how it operated when it was broken like the gems being pink. So maybe things levitating when a damaged Rabbit Miraculous weilder uses Burrow is a side effect. I have no idea what's in store for Season 6 but I'm excited to see what happens!
I think the lightining appears due to gimmis wish as for reviving emily gabreil gives his life but for curing Nathalie a balance is created by lilas mother which becomes vulneranle as a balance must be there between creation and destruction
Ok here is my theory: (Keep in mind I don’t really understand the concept of null so this is to my understanding of him) Back when the miraculous were created, if there was one Kwami that they SHOULD’VE given a miraculous, it was Null. As we know, when a Kwami uses their power without a holder, it causes major disasters. Seeing as (to my understanding) Null is the Kwami of reversion, if he were angry enough, he could erase the entire universe (and maybe other universes too). I think he might strike a deal with Lila. Something like “get rid of Gimmi (Plagg and Tikki), and I won’t erase you” causing Lila to make a miraculous for Null.
Theory: before jewelry ( 4:18) the holder would merge with kwami making them look like half kwami half human (same size as human kwami attributes) and the would get seriously/horribly sick after a while or gradually then sick after 5 minutes. Because they couldn’t Un-fuse, only after the human had no control (dead). So after two (maybe) times they used Tikki they decided they needed away to Un-fuse, (destransfrom) so the tried objects but found the human had to wear the object for it to work. This is sub theory: saying the kwami needs full control, the kwami merges into the earrings and not the holder, then the power seeps/goes through the earrings to give the holder power. And when they need to detransform the kwami could cut off all power, meaning de transformation. If the holder does not use their power or they are a grownup, the power goes through at a healthy rate, (Tikki still needed to be fed when marinate was transformed for a while no lucky charm. (Gang of secrets?) idk how that would go into the theory tho. ) instead of an instant surge of power leading to harm. (Like nathalie? (Nathalie theory: her hair is red and she died it black. Only her red steak went gray) ) that brings me to broken miraculous. The kwami can’t control the power flow very well and that’s how it leads to harm. Thomas Astrid never showed a kid wearing a broken miraculous (correct me if I’m wrong. Date: April 8 2024) which makes me think that something cat(noir)astrophic could happen if so. Another theory: ladybug’s miraculous ladybug can’t fix death. No deaths have happend! New York special: “what if she hadn’t been an android?” -Magestia also someone said cat noir could’ve caused irreparable damage. I come to edit this late maybe :) ty for reading my 10+ minute long theory :) edit: WOW my comment is looooooong! long bring the storm! Hehe
Never heard of null but that's rather interesting. Im going to say that Null could exist after a wish is made to revert it or if the wish leans to much into one side then null comes to rectify it and this qwamii could be true neutral for it doesn't care how it's done as long as it's done.
Imagine a line like, Gabriel Cheated the wish by not using Absolutes(his vague wording read My heart Read my soul stuff) He Made A visibly Equal but in reality in equivalent Deal and i represent the Emptiness or Nothingness Or to be More Precise the Hole Created in the world by Gabriel's Wish and its my Role to Correct that Hole Before Reality further Fragments (basically making him an complex evil type character because his nature and goal is to fix his existence (gabriels wish creating a hole in reality which has fragmented GImi into 3 kwami instead of two and he wants to get tiki and Plaggs Miraculous to reunify into gimi and Fix the Hole even if it costs his existence before Gimi breaks up even further beyond Creation destruction and Nonexistence especially since tiki and Plagg are more likely to fragment)
@@hazeclarke Like at first she hated ladybug for what she did, but why does she lie? So used to moving, she doesn’t expect to stay long so she starts drama to keep entertained? But the trips…. It’s so odd…, I’m lowkey convinced she’s the ancestor of the first fox miraculous holder Headcanon: those who are related to the first holders, when using said miraculous turn into that animal respectfully AND ON TOP OF THAT, has some of the advantages and disadvantages said miraculous would have, it’s my excuse for the shitty writing tbh, hence why everyone believed her so easily, except Marinette since ladybugs are luck so, overpowered her, and Adrien has the cat, so he knows destruction when he sees it
This is an interesting theory! However, given the timeline of the show (at least, the timeline that you so painstakingly assembled, Hazie) there may be another explanation for what was going on in the last scene.... Since we now know it took place in 2016, and we know that the holder of the Butterfly Miraculous can obtain visions of all those experiencing negative emotions, maybe she was being exposed to the immense negative vibes coming off people all over the world as they reacted to Brexit, Trump etc. ........
YES SOMEONE FINALLY TALKING ABOUT NULL!!!! I always liked the idea of null ever since I found out about it and even made a small theory and comic about them. However I didn’t actually know what they were the Kwami of, I assumed it was the idea of good and evil because there are two forms of null, the black version and white version with a tail. Anyway love this and hope they finally bring them into the show. Also do you know where the old art book can be found because I have been looking for one for years
It is interesting but we still don’t know what Gabriel wished for in the end of season 5 Maybe he wished to be reunited with his wife and also have connection with the humans world 🌍 And maybe he even wished about NULL finds LIEla or something like that But i do believe it is Gabriel Because in the episode SAFARI of s5 Natalie shared some pictures with LIEla (i know her name is lila but i enjoy writing LIE la😂💔)some of those pictures are Gabriel being in some place underground and that is the same place where lila is ! And even when the lightning show up ⚡️ the stuff start to fly and we can see that under the pillow is written GABRIEL so she is in Gabriel’s secret underground base ! And who else knows about that place ? GABRIEL ! I enjoy your videos ! Thank you 🤍 BUG OUT 🐞👋🏻
Maybe Null was alarmed because Gabriel and Amelie just dissapeared due to his wish. It doesnt make sense as they have existed but they just dissapeared so maybe there some link between Null and how Gabriel dissapeared into nothingness.
I thought Null was the concept of Tikki + Plagg Unification before Gimmi? Also, the lighting is not your only evidence. You can see in a shadow in the lightning a figure that looks like Null.
i really like the idea of null, it would be quite interesting to use in the show. i would assume, since its name means well... nothing, that its power would be able to erase something that has happened already. think sass or fluff with time travel, except the event basically never happened in the first place and no one or nothing remembers or recalls anything and theres no alternate unverse. it would be similar to rewriting the universe the wish does. i think that would be interesting.
All kwamis are born from a concept: creation, destruction, emotion ect. My theory is that Supreme is some interpretation of null or a user of the corresponding "kwami like" being. The power would probably be restriction since all kwamis are born from a concept, the opposite would be the restricter or ender of the said concepts because setting everything to 0 is way too op of a power. This would gladly play into how Supreme was able to restrict the forging of Gimmi and how kwamis in his dimension was restricted from disobeying(since their mouths are shut they cant use their powers and so on). We cant know what the new season might bring but I guess it would be something like lila trying to obtain the grimoir to get an idea of how to put "Null" into a miraculous so she can use it to do something. probably heartwarming, at this point I wait anything from the writer team. It would be a good plot point really. Hope they handle it in 2 seasons or less though.
Okay let me tell you that I had a dream a few days ago that is a continuation of this scene. Why now? I may never know... So in short: The Supreme came throught the protal and it was revealed that Lila is his daughter and the reason she's in the main universe is because she wants to have her own universe to rule and not just be a princess (?) then they started singing "Evil like me" from Descendants...there was something that the Supreme is a kwami-human hybrid and that he's technically immortal but he can die (?) I don't know that dream was wild, also Lilia was in her Lila wig and they were openly cursing at each other. And you know what is funny? That at the current state of this show I wouldn't even be surprised if something like this would actually accure xD
Since we are talking about balance, what if Gabriel 's wish was 2 thing by accident? 1 trade is life to resurrect Nathalie and 2 to be with his wife in death.
My theory is that Gabriel did something with the butterfly Miraculous, incase he ever lost it. So something would happen if someone else besides Gabriel decides to use it to prevent it or something?
I guess that depends on what he can say exactly. The information I found on him didn’t elaborate further on what exactly he could see. He might only know bits of information that’s slowly revealed to him. I would assume it would take a lot of his energy. I guess it’s hard to say when there isn’t loads of info on him
It'd be such a wasted opportunity if the writers don't make use of Null. We know they're more than okay with recycling old concepts (as they did so with Felix), so it's plausible that they might do the same with Null.
