Explaining the Voyager Loop | Star Trek Fleet Command's new loop is complicated but also valuable

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I know @everyone thinks the new loop is complicated. I'm not here to disagree with you. BUT, if you want the quick and dirty of where to go, what to hit, and how to do it, this video will provide all the basics for unlocking the Voyager and starting Star Trek Fleet Command's new loop. (Even if it is terribly convoluted and complex)
Topics covered:
1. Unlocking the USS Voyager 101: The Free To Play path
2. 2 Hostiles and 2 Mining Nodes and how exactly they work
3. Explaining the basics of the refinery (shoutout Julesvern for helping me with the spreadsheet!)
4. If you have any game mechanic questions, feel free to drop those questions in the comments!
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@matthewhorton2156 Год назад

Maybe give a stable game, rather than disappearing ships, ships in dock jumping to random systems, mining and disappearing for few seconds.

@philiphudson880 Год назад

Until the bugs are fixed, nothing else matters!!! Virtually Unplayable.

@nikmilestone6873 Год назад

Happening on Server 70 makes it virtually unplayable

@thomastrain7934 Год назад

The worse thing is that Scopely is pretending there are no problems.

@endermwatts Год назад

Yeah I had ships that were mining or warping that suddenly showed like they were in other systems but I couldn’t access them. Locating them took me to some random system that I had no ships in and then either randomly or after a cache clear it finally fixed itself.

@nvanattia Год назад

Scopely by in large does not care about the stability and bugs in the game as long as it does not effect their bottom line. Only when things break to the point of the game not functioning do they actually fix it in a timely manner. This has been going on for over 4 years and does not seem to ever be solved. I have never played a game with systematic issues which last for a year without being solved (Broken hostiles cough cough...).

@jimonthecoast3234 Год назад

All this new currency, grinding hirogen is crazy. I'm ready to quit, they need to get rid of all the new currency, and use existing ones, MAJOR FAIL to listen to players

@philiphudson880 Год назад

Holy Crap. Just what everyone wanted, more scarce hostiles, more crap to mine, another one trick pony ship based on Federation but doesn’t really count as a Federation ship. Add in the crazy Bugs and (my opinion,) worst arc yet. Yay more token systems and minuscule cargo bay. Someone really needs fired about the bugs. I also cringe anytime a pull has “chance” in it. That essentially guarantees you’ll rarely get anything useful.

@elidelajandro Год назад

This game is not a job. I'm genuinely stunned at how much of a middle finger that this arc is to the player base. You did an admirable job of trying to explain the lipstick on a pig that this loop is -- but even you couldn't describe it accurately in one go. Frankly, I'm just not interested. I play every day, I'm still more than a month away from unlocking the Enterprise-G. This loop is serving as the last straw for a lot of players on my server. I've been here since the beginning and I didn't pay for the battle pass last month for the first time in over a year. I expect my wallet will remain closed for the foreseeable future.

@alanarmstrong6099 Год назад

They throw us a bone with freebooters. Actual gameplay element that saves grind time. And then immediately give us something that will require twice the grind? Classic Scrapely

@MRKNIGHT Год назад

Oh great another daily grind 1 bp a day ship I can try to get in a few months. I’ll just add it to the others I’m daily grinding to get. Eventually I can play the parts of the game everyone else has moved on from.

@Elmoh01 Год назад

Man oh man, Why does this now feel like a job instead of a game. Scopely hit a home run with the freebooters for shortening screen time, but now it feel like if I want to really participate in this arc, I have to live on my phone.

@10thman36 Год назад

I'm about to just stop playing. This is nonsense

@thehawk5141 7 месяцев назад

Do what you can and enjoy the game at your pace. Don’t let it take over your life.

@seansappok1141 Год назад

Yeah for real stop coming out with new stuff, FIX things, the game is so laggy and glitchy it's ridiculous

@remconoordermeer7015 Год назад

There are lots of others already mentioning this in the comments. The Freebooters were a fantastic addition to reduce the grind, but it won’t help much if you simply add even more grinds.

@TMHerron Год назад

I'm bummed. I'd like to like the voyager. But what I'd like more is for Scopely to fix the refine bottleneck. I have a ships that need materials that I would like to level up a whole lot more than I want one more grind. Rev, glad you're covering the game mechanic for the people with an interest. but man it really seems like scopely just keeps on finding another way to make this game a job.

@alanarmstrong6099 Год назад

Yeah. I just hit Ops 40. Still had not maxed my Augur. I may never be able to since I now get so much less 3* red ore. Literally looking at 8 weeks or more to get what I need.

@nvanattia Год назад

Their answer is buy Primes to lower costs and buy packs to progress. Otherwise wait.

@remconoordermeer7015 Год назад

Exactly this. The Freebooters were a fantastic addition to reduce the grind, but it won’t help much if you simply add even more grinds.

@Excathedra01 Год назад

Simple answer, quit the game. That reduces the grind of the game a lot!

@TMHerron Год назад

@@Excathedra01 You are correct. That is a simple answer.

@k.gall7591 Год назад

While I'm glad scopely is trying to address player feedback.....did they have to cram everything into part 2? 😭🤣 Is scopely going to give a comp chest filled with aspirin for the huge headache I'm getting? 🤪😵‍💫🤯

@jimonthecoast3234 Год назад

Wow, this is a job. How much does scopely pay? Game killing ship.

@sweetdigs101 Год назад

It's a super simple loop once you get over the initial hump. The bigger issue is that Scopely broke the game with this update. Lot of seizure inducing bugs.

@ZippeeKaiYay Год назад

Complicated isn’t fun. The game is too bloated and it’s less enjoyable each arc. Finding I’m more excited for each arc to finish, than for a new one to start.

@BossCyan1d3 Год назад

More Currency. More Grind. More Bugs. More of the same...

@flyfish8710 Год назад

1. Copy & Paste 2. Apply lipstick 3. Sell like it is the best thing since slice bread.

@TRPrecht Год назад

It is a lot. It is a bit convoluted. What happened to them wanting to help reduce screen time? It seems like they are trying to reduce some screen time by adding significantly more elsewhere. Don't get me wrong, I like what they are providing, it just seems to be too much at once for one thing. Now they can fix the bugs thing changes brought?

@rayvannostrand7575 Год назад

I need ai just to tell me how to play this fking game and keep track of all the bs. I spend more time on the game then i do at work and can barely keep up. When scopley going to start paying me to work not play since its basically work?

@beng7845 Год назад

Man STFC is almost becoming spreadsheets in space due to the amount of daily grind you have to complete

@beng7845 8 месяцев назад

Finally unlocked my voyager some 7 months later 🤣 I hope this info is still relevant

@markmundl1420 Год назад

Rev, can you please communicate with Scopely. This arc has introduced many new glitches. My ships are leveling up in dock (miners should be at level 200 soon), disappearing during warp, game crashing frequently, ships disappearing and can't use "locate" function to find....and more. This is the worst intro of new glitches that I can remember. TY

@richardschorriii Год назад

REV it's even more convoluted when you think about zooming. I've been playing almost from very start, and always on a cell phone. Got use to zooming in(but hated it) cap traders, as I was careful not to hit heavies. NOW I'm expected not only to wait for 2+++ seconds +++ PER thing I have to click on to collect but ALSO kept zoomed in for longer (slowing down my grind). Also with have to constantly check cool down refineries or set alarm so I don't miss 😂😂😂

@joshuas193 Год назад

This is cool and all but what i really want to hear is how they are going to fix all the bugs they created with this update. Thanks for info Rev, it is appreciated. I'm just a little aggravated about getting kicked out the game 30 times in a couple hours.

@nutznchocolates56 Год назад

Me too. It's exhausting.

@nunyabidness3075 Год назад

Yep. Adding grind, complexity, and bugs at the same time is not smart. They really, really,, really need to clean the game up a bit. Take out stuff no one cares about, and consolidate many of the older currencies and such.

@RevDeuce Год назад

Same here

@CCFONESOL Год назад

Definitely a headache i don't need.

@nvanattia Год назад

I just don't understand the progression since DS9. We got the Bajorn Loop and other than the Ops lock for the Rare and Epic chests it was praised as a great loop. Next came the Borg revamp and it was needlessly complicated with the introduction of the Expansion Cubes. Then we got the Artifact Loop with the Formation Armadas which was also complicated and now they changed to add in specific abilities vs ship types increasing the complication. Now we get the Voyager Loop. Once again, needlessly complicated. It isn't that the rewards for participating in these loops are not good, but we are basically forced into them if we want to progress. You cannot really abstain from these in protest because of the value of the content. It continues to skew their view of our desire for more complicated and convoluted content.

@davidmorton8332 Год назад

Worst launch since Territory Capture. Or if you prefer Incursions. So sad they've done it to a ship so beloved in canon. Lots of people are going to quit if they don't sort this fiasco and fix it fast.

@tonyferreri7401 Год назад

We regularly mention 'reward for effort', this whole overcomplicated voyager circle grind just doesn't seem to give a level of reward for effort that makes it worth doing. There are so many things to grind and do in the game that provide a better reward for effort that I can see the voyager circle getting completely ignored by a lot of players, just like expansion cubes, formation armadas and starbase assaults. Wasn't Scopely supposed to be reducing the grind this year?

@jplacklan9593 Год назад

I don't necessarily think that it's OVERcomplicated, but I certainly think it's super silly 😂

@dupre7416 Год назад

How can you say all of these words with a straight face? I only experienced about 30% of the game's content before this nonsense was added. I think lack of content isn't our biggest problem is it?

@alanarmstrong6099 Год назад

Yeah. Getting 17 new currencies that are tied to hostile grinding, pay to play today ship, research, refineries, and cooldowns…would maybe be ok if the game didn’t crash 20 times a day. I spend more time loading the game than playing it.

@nutznchocolates56 Год назад

At least!

@JanvanEck-i9v Год назад

The research tree is the ultimate reward from this voyagere loop grind. And it is simply underwhelming. So this will go the way of formation armada , exalted armada etc. Not enough reward to justify putting in the time. Oh and i am ops 57 wich relatively few researches left to do.

@XHunter442 Год назад

Watching Star Trek fleet command commercial before the video and it’s so not accurate to the game play lol

@XHunter442 Год назад

Ty for the video and LLAP rev deuce

@callumwilliamson7189 Год назад

Good luck to any lvl 34’s effectively grinding this. Absolute travesty

@waltdog5791 Год назад

so what is the time line on fixing all the bugs that have pop up with this arc?

@nuitari1669 Год назад

I'm really excited for that Paradox Star Trek game! I love their grand strategy games!

@franks.6586 Год назад

nice video , as always, but at the moment game is not playable , crashing evere 2 to 3 minutes , and up to now not even a word from scopley, that they are working on the problems ...and the voyager is nearly 100 days away ... behind grinding and 1 day cooldown ... for blueprint ... not amused

@MrJrio11 Год назад

So sad this is what they do with what we’ve wanted for years , first borg cube , then borg sphere now the voyager , this video explains how stupid what they’ve done ( getting paid well to do ) lol

@brandonavants7662 Год назад

Coughs cargo space. 😢. And it’s locked at tier 2 at 39. 🙄

@MDougM Год назад

that big 8472 hostile is just another reason to tier up b'elanna as much as possible when event store comes

@mackdaddie0012 6 месяцев назад

What system was that where you find bioships of species 8472

@jeffdetrick Год назад

Thank you Rev for saving me the $50 or $100 I WAS just about to spend to unlock this ship early. FTP path for me all the way now as I just don't want another grind added to my day.

@kevinwilliams6309 2 месяца назад

This helps alot. I'm gonna have to watch this again and take notes

@dennisswartz4937 Год назад

FIX THE DAMN GAME!!! Digging out the torches and pitchforks.

@nutznchocolates56 Год назад

🔥🔥

@leeahlstrom3300 Год назад

I agree with @Elmoh01 below--just when they fix the grind with the Freebooters, they introduce this. This makes it exponentially worse in terms of amount of time needed to be spent in the game. Next will be the new SPecies 8472 armadas.

@RevDeuce Год назад

I agree. This is a big point I was giving game design before this launched.

@Lloydson0027 Год назад

Difficult loop even with your teaching. Will drive most causal player away. As other have stated game is almost unplayable after this updated.

@RevDeuce Год назад

Yup, Im hoping they make this a bit easier

@M_ark707 Год назад

This game is ridiculous. Just stupid.

@MatthewBluefox Год назад

Could they make it any more complicated? Wow.

@varkanoid Год назад

So how do you get the 50 day reduction for getting the Voyager on free. It would have been helpful to explain that in the video ?

@RevDeuce Год назад

I did. You get 1 Shard per day in the refinery, and this month you can get another 50 through the event store if you do all your events (using lobi crystals)

@endermwatts Год назад

This loop may not be hard to understand once you see it but it seems VERY convoluted and time consuming with all the steps, especially when we still keep talking about how much time playing this game takes even after the Freebooters.

@steveellis779 Год назад

Not enticing me to come back to the game

@rontooley7161 Год назад

I got 36 For One Hour Of Work Not Good. you need wrap 110+ just to get to that system it suck's i'm op's 43 and can't get there.

@AdamHird Год назад

How do you get the extra free 50 bps ?

@Darthpickleric Год назад

I dont like the grind at all already have enough to do i think yhisnew arc suxs and took yhe fun out if yhe game

@jeffkretzer1827 Год назад

I agree a million percent!

@10thman36 Год назад

Nope this video did nothing to help me . Where to get the tokens dude ? Im glad yer fancy and upgraded in 24 hrs .... Try remembering this isnt our job and help us with the basics. Typical elite nonsense

@EnderSword Год назад

Yeah the cargo is the main thing like you mention, especially right out of the gate, you'd almost have to be crazy to actually use Voyager itself for most of this. I kind of think it never really occurs to Scopely that people would ever do things differently than they intend, so they just never account for it. I also think the Warp Range thing is a super super weird way to limit access to the Big systems, because while I guess it does that, it's not really level locked at all, so we're gonna suddenly have people lvl 40 with access to 500+ Warp Space A Voyager can definitely go to ultra deep space and start picking off miners and completing missions that should otherwise be well beyond people's ability, so I found that a weird way to do this.

@nutznchocolates56 Год назад

How about they hire some people in customer service.

@MC-en9rg Год назад

And some real coders

@SaintZarquon Год назад

The game offers too much to do it daily. Some of the new Voy Stuff is ok, but they should use more time to develop stability and bugfixing! Today I cannot finish my Apex event, cause the armadas doesn' count e.g. That sucks. I have retired my lv 36 account and am playing only on my lv.42, but just because of the fact, that I have invested some real money in it (~€300.-). Otherwise I had quit several month ago. But the main problems are the ongoing bugs, IOS or PC. Please more work on this and lesser new features!

@alabama2654 Год назад

What is Scopely thinking? What happened to life balance? I play a couple hours everyday. Try to any way - but at least 4-5 days a week. I can barely keep up with the daily grind. I really don't have time for the other 999 factions, mining, hostile hunting, and TC that gets thrown at me. I'm sure the players that live in their moms basement and only stop playing to answer the door for door dash love it. But I really have a life and it's not in the Star Trek Universe! At the current pace, I'd have to hire a First Officer and an Engineer to keep my game play going. Something has to give. Some of us have other things to do besides going PEW PEW PEW all day long! 😱

@JimBattaglini Год назад

Way too complicated. You need Voyage to even thingk about it and to get Voyager, you need to either spend $$$ or wait 50 or 100 days minimum, assuming you're willing to grind for hours, as the lower-level Hunters have piddly amounts and ar few and far between, even if yo jump from system to system. (As a side note, I don't even have Defiant because that is also WAY too complicated!) 8472 ships will kill anything besides Voyager as far as I can tell. In essence, if you are below level 40, fuggedaboudit. They "fixed" the game now but if you don't have Voyager, you may as well stick to regular grinding for the studd you can get efficiently. Even the missions are one-at-a-time so there is no fast completion even in that area. All things considered, this game is becoming less and less fun as time goes on - to the point where it is no fun at all. Unless, once again, you're a whale, cuz as we all know, that's who all this new stuff is primarily aimed at.

@MasterSergeantofMarines Год назад

Sorry, great rundown Rev, but with the instability issues, uncontrollable zoom on Android, lag spikes, etc, and Diablo IV out, ain't nobody got time for that. 😂😂😂 Scopely fix your game before rolling out new grifts. Oh I meant to say gifts. 😂😂😂

@WouterVerbruggen Год назад

Hmm this looks like a very annoying loop, but seems to be worth it. Guess I'll have to simply experience it in a month or two when I get the ship. I really like the scanning for hostiles mechanic, an actually novel mechanic. Hopefully there won't be too much hostile "stealing" as that would very quickly make me stop doing the loop all together.

@MadmanLink Год назад

I was so ready to pull the trigger on Voyager, but there has been so many issues and so much to do. This loop alone adds a bit of work. Which would nothing if there isn't so much going on in the game. Solo armadas are a blessing and a curse.

@garveywilliams9985 Год назад

Hey Rev, I've watch your vid on how to Voyager, but i find it useless when i can't use Voyager to defeat the hostiles in the beginning system. They are no buffs and a right out the box ship, can't make dent to farm reasonably. The Mantis got buffs for us to start with, why not Voyager. Thanks. By the I'm a lvl 34 Ops and FTP.

@h4ckybg Год назад

50 free bps? how?

@flozano2004 Год назад

The Voyager on STFC makes no sense from Star Trek canon. In this parallel world the Voyager was captured by Hirogens and used against other Delta Quadrant species. It never went back to Federation space and never met Seven of Nine. At least it means we won't get Epic Neelix. ;-)

@reigningfire1089 27 дней назад

Just got my Voyager. WOW, what a loop. THX for all the help. You rock !! Hope the family is well.

@nickm9102 Год назад

So it sounds like they decided 35+ didn't have enough to do so give them four more tedious tasks and to make it more fun lets tie it all to a ship that you will have to buy all after the first ship and maybe even the first

@rfdekwant3627 Год назад

Complicated is fine, but when it's one trick pony.. than It become on the end very annoying. We have enough one trick ponies in the game, mantis, cerritos, franklin's, discovery.....

@albertmenefee8418 Год назад

As of today, it's so glitch filled with brand new glitches, it's not playable, when u change crew, reset a node, basically switch screens, it sends u to eclipse armada space in galaxy tab after tapping locate on ship in dock. 😂 so restarting game doesn't fix it. Every dock randomly goes zzz n u tap on it n well ur looking at eclipse space. Un playable.

@eddiecharles8170 11 месяцев назад

Just sucks that this new job description lol don't have daily rewards or tokens ......

@tudorhedgepig Год назад

Whilst i appreciate the new ship, its just another excuse to time dump more grinding. Its become too much effort to keep up with everything.. amd with the lovely bugs.. im out..

@rustyshackleford928 Год назад

Hey Rev, tell the powers that be to lower the price of the assimilated Stella please. Thanks

@134StormShadow 6 месяцев назад

Cheers Rev. Just built Voyager and had no idea which way the loop worked. Time to get grinding 😊

@BengalOscar Год назад

What an absolute joke this is!!! STOP adding more grind!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@dopamine_fiend365 11 месяцев назад

Even going through the free to play path is confusing for me... been playing for 6 months and I thought all the new ships were paid only (in my case I did all the events I could it didn't come close)

@3ofLPB23 Год назад

STFC is turning into the game we Love but hate. the content makes my not want to spend any more money on the games. I still have $400 in iTunes gift cards from Xmas. I find myself slowly walking away from the game as the game creates more discontent within my entertainment needs.

@donaldjohnson4228 Год назад

I've put up a Peace shield for a week. Im not happy wit any part of this new arc and going to decide on weather or not I'm going to continue playing this game. The game runs poorly yet scopely wants our cash. A lot of the pimes ate useless inm opinion. So much junk in this game. it runs like junk too

@jumpone2863 7 месяцев назад

What player level do you recommend to start using the voyager. I unlocked at level 35 and cannot mine DQ.

@mackdaddie0012 5 месяцев назад

Oh I wish you would've shown what the anomaly mines looks like...I can't find them

@Dobbelsteenable Год назад

And absolute radio silence on all the new bugs and crashes making the game unplayable. 30 day shield up. See you next month.

@ironicallyblusky3281 Год назад

I know nothing more than I did before watching this vid. Brain overload to much info dumbs the melon 😂😂😂

@mikec426 9 месяцев назад

Spent 3 seconds talking about mining anomalies. Not helpful…

@nutznchocolates56 Год назад

Why this game keeps crashing? I thought it was a mobile phone game? It's already a part time job and when the game constantly glitching or crashing makes the game even more time consuming.

@grenson1676 Год назад

Difficult to comment on Voyager at this time. The game is broken and unplayable as it stands. Fix the game, then lets talk about the new features.

@joehopper3493 Год назад

Getting booted constantly Hope I am collecting refines Going threw the motions and hope it is actually giving me stuff

@LotharsAreola Год назад

There is no scoring for the eclipse events. I should be finished but it says I have no points. I can barely even play on my phone now. It locks up about once a minute even after a restart of the phone. Disappointed in the game so much so that I don't want to engage in the month.

@seansappok1141 Год назад

And seriously stop releasing a ship where you need the ship to grind it for free lol

@stephown5374 Год назад

Thanks for this video. The game gives no help on how to use the new ship. Not sure why they don't build that into the game, even as a repayable mission to help guide you on the grind.

@brianbradford9079 Год назад

About halfway through this video I have decided to skip it. Hope they improve it in the future.

@dennislaur2515 Год назад

I'm not going to put much effort into this ship. Already have enough one trick ships to work on.

@timrodgers8551 Год назад

Huge bug install. It was bad before now it’s almost unplayable.

@vengeance1701 Год назад

Luckily, I did not like Voyager, and have no plans on using that ship or even building it.

@wolfen001 Год назад

It would be fantastic but the game keep jump stop ship from moveinv

@pcoyle2007 Год назад

I’m wondering if you need a special crew like with freebooters

@sumdoodguy8879 6 месяцев назад

What am I missing. I cannot find any 8472 w scanner? I’m in the same systems you are in.

@nikmilestone6873 Год назад

30 minutes waiting for scopely support to respond to an attempt to report a problem, seems they only listen to content creators, so please ask them to fix it