USS Voyager | Breaking down Star Trek Fleet Command's newest loop ship | Future PVE Giant? 

Great video. Like all these one trick pony ships I'm not rushing to get it. It'll arrive eventually. And from everything I've seen the especially complex loop makes it even less of a priority. If I make the free 50 tokens to build it this BP I'll be happy. I just wished such an important ship in canon had been used better. Voyager deserved better.

"Super-warpy" is a phrase we need to use more in everyday life.

this is a great vid and super informative, but it makes me not even want to pursue the voyager. it just seems like way too much work at this point

Random P-51 Mustang starship makes its appearance! 👍

I think you missed the biggest part of Voyager, its 5-5-9 firing pattern. It is not a PvP ship but it can be a great armada ship because O'Brien can double it's high number of shots fired. While it's base damage is low, if you're relying on someone like Tyler for damage (assuming someone brought Burning), you could easily end up to top damage dealer because you're hitting so many times.

Thanks Rev! As always you are informative and bring some entertainment to the videos you post. As for my thoughts on the Voyager shop loop they follow. ---I bought Voyager in large part because it was not supposed to be level locked and on my server in the Jellyfish event there is only one winner (No runner up bps) to give me that grinder. I did think the way the first two sections of the loop were cool until I got to the mining one. I will say it is not because of the mining (The voyager especially with the first research mines the nodes wicked fast and I don't mind mining) It encompasses all the hated parts of the other grindy loops in the game. *There system is covered by fog of war so you can't tell how full it is before you use up the token which are super hard to come by *The cargo is so abysmal that you can't even get an initial pull based on the number of warp tokens you get unless you use a cargo crew *The nodes are too small, too few, and despawn with a respawn timer. This means you can spend all day and not get enough mining for a pull *Because the nodes are so small players bring 4* and 5* miners and even if we bring a PVP crew I could not take them with any ship I have at 39. *By the nodes despawing/respawing in a different place you have to watch for minutes hoping to see it come in before someone else gets to the node *The nodes seemingly switch at random from a uncommon to a rare mining node once emptied. This is made worse because they don't despawn to respawn until someone leaves the node. *If everyone was mining with Voyagers switching may not be as big a deal; however, because they are not, this means that even if you can get lucky enough to grab an empty node, you still may not come away with enough materials because of how fast the cargo fills up and there is no guarantee you will get the type (rare or uncommon) you need next. ---Now that I have been trying to do this since the first day I have some thoughts any of which might make it better, some of which may not be great idea. At this point it seems like someone tried to get two interesting first parts then see how much suck they could cram into the last part taking things people dislike from every other part of the game. *5-10 times the base cargo for the Voyager at level 0 with the same progression (This would reduce the likelihood people used faction miners/amalgams/etc that take 9+days on a rare node. *Remove Fog of War (If we could see the system was full we could choose to come back later instead of wasting a warp token or just leaving our ship there hoping nodes will be free when we come back later) *Increase node count *Increase node size (small nodes aka data are annoying) *Remove the spawing behavior (one of the biggest complaints I hear for armadas is waiting for respawns) *Remove the switching behavior (I don't even know what that is) *Remove the tokens (This would remove the need to use larger ships. I wish it were common sense that a *Make the tokens only usable by a Voyager *Significantly increase the rewards dropped by the hostiles so you can walk away with the same amount of look either by mining or by dropping hostiles (At least this gives players a different option) *Remove the level lock and make it dependent on the ability to get the mats (this would also help beef up the cargo through upgrades)(Level locks are at least my most hated part of new ships) *Returns on all the refinery should scale up over time (even linearly) Currently the store options that affect upgrades reduce over time. Efficiency should get better as you get more experience/equipment/etc not worse. If they did, we wouldn't have intention mega-companies. (AKA one of the biggest player complaints I hear about the Augment and Outlaw faction stores.)

I find Hirogen hunting is a pain as there is only a few in the systems and they dont spawn well.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. You are a very smart guy. Looking forward to seeing your work a lot more.💯💪😎👍

Love the P51, looks so cool. Another great video Rev

Thanks Rev, Still yet to get mine though it is at least less painful to get then some of the other niche ships. I'm still grinding for the Titan-A and Defiant so I am in no immediate rush for it.

Oh ops locks *Cry* but thanks so much for the video! I'm always very interested in what Tier everyone advises getting these specialty ships to. Such a fine balance of pros and cons.

Great Vid.

Since I love voyager. I'm maxing it

I actually forgot this existed. Well I recently got 5/11, so I guess this is something I could go for...

voyager tier 3 with cargo upgrade and level 4 research voyager cargo brings it up to 106k ,so still not at both chest pulls on one mining token but getting there

as a ops 32 im working towards the free unlock BUT am in to rush. voyager just adds more complications and MORE grind. they took some grind away with exborg but then stuffed the 30s with event more specialty ships with more grind. amalg/fesha/titan/talios/cerritos/defiant all ships that start in the 30s. on top of that your working on faction epics. just TOO much in the 30s.

Cool ending there with the Lego set. Is there a certain pilot it’s modeled after? (Side note, looks like you’re missing a right side flap plate, but I’m sure you noticed that). Great info btw - probably going to be a month and a half before I get my Voyager.

Hey Rev, Is the excels/charts/resources shown in vid available on your discord? I looked in the channel for the specialty ships and didn't see them there Good vid explaining an annoying loop/process

You convinced me Rev to not really bother with this ship. My game play is limited, so I might as well spend it doing what I enjoy doing then trying to do a convoluted time wasting event. Just going to be hard to give Scopely anything higher then a D this month.

@revdeuce btw you can turn in those skulls before lvl 34. I can turn them in at lvl 31.

How do you get the voyager parts to tier it up , I don't see them in the refinery?

Hello if you use the new voyager ability on another player, are they getting a notification

I love it... you Said " dairy Queen "

The research really helps the voyager. Warp range, damage dealt and cargo are crucial. Ultimately it will be great for this loop and necessary if you are interested in isolytic damage.

So wait... Voyager, Titan, Cerritos, Defiant don't get the Federation ship bonuses unlocked through research?

Full Agreement with davidmorton, although I did buy it. They really need to take some of the pain out of this ship, because it is a great ship - just not in STFC. And not just because of the cargo issue. It needs to be easier to use. Plus, now that I have it, I don't see a Daily Gift of the stuff you need to make it really good, like you do for the Cerritos and the Titan.

But like you get a token but then do you use it to mine or to hunt hostiles?

Is there a way to counter the base scanner on Voyager? It is becoming annoying in Pvp having to move a base every time I hit a player with them.

Being free to play, just entering lv40. I only have enough free time and resources for one awesome combat ship and one awesome mining ship. I got research and building ontop of those goals. I'll be joining the long road for voyager. All your base belong to us.

How come I have the ability to grind for voyager bps in refinery at ops30

The upgrade cost for Voyager is...expensive...and there's virtually no benefit to doing so. Honestly I cannot understand Scopely's thinking. At T3 you need 3 packs to upgrade? Or you can choose the F2P path, but that is years from the pulls I see. If there's "more to come" then...ok, I guess? If I compare this to the Vidar-T I get whiplash from how different they are. Or even how different it is from the Titan. What really bugs me the most- if I take the Defiant and Voyager then we've been handed ships that have specific uses, but aren't used every day. It's so disappointing to see such revered ships be relegated to such a role. It should have been great. It isn't. Yes lots of people own a Voyager...but most will never tier it up beyond 2 or 3. The research is decent, but everything else is just...a disappointment.

I usually love your videos but I did not really understand what you were trying to say here, just confused about why to level or not level the voyager.

I think voyager is a cool ship , i agree it has limitations butvits not a deal breaker i still thinkbits cool and i will use it where c its good at

I came here to find out where specifically I can find Species 8472 hostiles. Disappointed that wasn't included.

@Rev thought ship was not ops locked I pushed it to t7 and now warps locked till 51

Honestly I needed something that punched up in pvp that didn't cost 400 dollars...I was hopeful voyager could be that ship. Sadly, doesn't look like she's it. Dang shame too, she's a handsome hull. I know, I know...at 34, I'm not new here...I really shouldn't have had such high hopes. Doom on me.

Perhaps I missed it and need to watch this again but for the ship parts refineries do they go to G5 parts eventually or are us lvl 50+ players screwed?

The Hirogen Blueprint Exchange is available to ops 32, possibly lower, not limited to ops 34+.

I think they should scale up the Voyager on the level of the Defiant. Why, because of the Borg tech, they were able to adapt to the ship.

Will i get it.. yes, I'm not rushing, nor paying.

you better to wait till tri locked then work on them im currently working on getting klingon to respected then work on my fed and rom dailys and get a gladius and enty i have 60 gladius bps and about 80 enty bps im doing a mega hard camp at ops33 need get franklin lv41 dvor lv41 and max a vidar and my faction miners then max my research and all buildings including the special ones

I not only deeply regret the billions of tri I've spent on this ship I've even stopped doing the expensive dailies

So I see you're using pmc on it?

Hi Rev, players in my alliance are scanning and other players are waiting and jumping the scanned targets....ouch.

Wait I’m time is horrible. And we need more mining nodes

I barely use mine.. interesting perspective

What about the 2 to 4 years its going to take to unlock the Field Training based on 100k Commerce Tokens... this entire loop seems overly complicated for little value back so far.

As someone not really interested in PvP, I don't mind Voyager falls down a bit here. It's good for PvE, that's good enough for me lol

Is there a reason they make things worse the higher the tier? What is the logic for it?

My number one is I can go to mid DS at 39. 😳

I think scoply should have learned there lesson when 60 to 75% of every server passed on the Titan and yet what has another 100 day grind geee

I am NOT a fan of the astrometrics scan feature. Granted there are some annoying gnats who snipe my miners now and then (and yes have been at war for 3 years) BUT this feature will likely only benefit the whales. I personally don't sweep miners but someone snipes mine.... whatever. I am OP46. Would it be worth my time to scan and locate a lower ops player much? Maybe.... really only if I can 1 shot their base or mark it and catch them offline. Is guerilla tactic like sniping my miner a valid tactic.. yes for smaller players that is what they can hit. Now the whales?.... I expect some serious one shotting of bases and crushing of returning warships using this feature. As a midlevel player... won't do much for me, but I expect to get smacked by some whales in your alliance. I can also see low and midlevel players simply spotting bases for the whales in their alliance to go smack. I think this feature takes tactics away from smaller players (like realta burning) when that may be all they can do

8:19 dairy queen hostiles 😮😂?!

Voyager could have a cargo hold of 10million, doesnt matter for refines if there aren't rare nodes to mine. I flown into 2 FSEP systems multiple times to find no rare at all! Or the 1 rare there is occupied by a nova. Need more nodes, not flippers, need more mining systems

High warp does not good if you can't grind at high level

Saludame Rev

I'm not getting points for the queens gambit

i think gladius and intrepid great pve ships not so great at pvp better than my centi at hostiles but i think gladius would be me preference only if you are more a pve than pvp if pvp a huge pass im not a pvper im more pve

Voyager needs way more cargo an faster mining speed then it has out of the box. Double the power be nice to, to make it a more useful ship. Upgrade cost is ridiculous an not worth doing.

OMG MINE MINE MINE NOT ENOUGH MINERS IN THE GAME

I'm still working on getting my Voyager to tier 2, research helps out, with increased damage to hostiles making it a very good PvE ship in the long run. Cargo space is annoyingly small as hitting one regular hostile is enough to fill the cargo bay. I do hope there's a reason in the future to fully upgrade the ship.

I can't seem to find species 8472. My voyager has been stuck at Tier 1 for the past year.... This is a completely useless ship I guess.

It should have been a interceptor not an explorer

I think we have so many one trick ponies and 4 star "epic" ships that they need to slow down.

Hahaha these STFC ads kill me.

the more i hear about the voyager the less interested in it I am... it seems like a lot of work for very little

Nice show lots of INFO about ship To me I do not like PAY TO PLAY IT SUCK If this was PC game like CALL OF DUTY or DIADLO 4 I would nor mind long hrs playing or spending money on game But this game CELL Phone Game something to play at work or waiting to do something This Voyager is ONE TRICK PONY to much to do for this kind of ship If this was Fattion Ship then be ok like Enterprise 😢

I still think that the "find a player base location" is the most broken and worst thing that has come out so far. I do see a prospective of, the whales have to be kept happy. So lets give an overpower thing to them and lets make the other players spend more time in the game hostile grinding or Armadas that are crap but necessary to get required loot, that somehow ties to some B.S. refinery that gives just the barest reward, to gain an even slight advantage for the common player. My thoughts they should have use relocation tokens for that and made it a station building that by lvl 60 could give the the system. Otherwise the scan would give you a warp range number, hell that would be better than "let's just give you there address". What's next? One click you get all un protected resources including gas, ore, crystal, iso, borg nanoprobe, Latinum and whatever else you had laying around.

TCNG = Too Convoluted Not Engaging

Not everyone needs every ship. I'll be skipping this one.

All cons, no pros

I've been playing on PC and downloading Steam games on sale.. revisiting RDR2 again... all MUCH MORE FUN THAN STFC. And I've been playing daily for 2-3 years.. only to stop caring about STFC and losing more and more interest with each new Scopely money grabbing gimmick.