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Exploring the Abandoned Nottingham Town Hall 

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In today's episode, we head inside the former Nottingham Guild Hall, Police and Fire Station that has been shuttered since 2010. Containing lots of ornate features, despite more than a decade of disuse, we explored the entire property in 2021.
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@franklancaster8434
@franklancaster8434 2 месяца назад
I did work on the Guildhall back in the 60s as an apprentice bricklayer we built a lift shaft which I assume was from the cells to the courts. A beautiful building some of our top carpenters worked on the courtrooms restoring the beautiful timber work. We worked for Thomas Fish and sons and did some great work in this building. I live in Australia now but the memories are so special.
@sputumtube
@sputumtube 7 месяцев назад
Your quote "it felt obscene that something so special could be left without purpose". A sentiment all us viewers/subscribers feel to the max. Another great video, please keep 'em coming. (P.S. that magnificent clock - Jeez).
@chaddamp2894
@chaddamp2894 7 месяцев назад
to many of these old beautiful buildings being flattened without proper consultaion with general public..
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
Glad you are enjoying the videos! Indeed, that line would be fitting for 99% of our videos :)
@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 2 месяца назад
The clock is a Cope and Co, a famous Nottingham clockmakers. Copes jewellers are still trading.
@JoePublicUk
@JoePublicUk 7 месяцев назад
The reason why it's been left so easy to get in because they can't knock it down because I would assume its listed building.. so they are hoping someone sets fire to it.. then they can knock it down.
@MINKIN2
@MINKIN2 6 месяцев назад
I live in Notts. We all know that as soon as it is deemed unsafe, they will knock it down and put up student flats.
@ItzA1fie
@ItzA1fie 5 месяцев назад
@@MINKIN2 do u know how to get in?
@bobmcdermott9535
@bobmcdermott9535 4 месяца назад
Just like Tameside MBC near Manchester.
@philiprufus4427
@philiprufus4427 3 месяца назад
You got it,The History of Glasgows Old Buildings unwanted by The Council over fifty years !
@birchthebirch4593
@birchthebirch4593 3 месяца назад
Because someone is going to make a lot of money off it ​@freebeerfordworkers
@suedunning2945
@suedunning2945 7 месяцев назад
I hope the national trust might take this on, as a museum site for the local population. It's sad it's being left to decay.
@me_fault
@me_fault 7 месяцев назад
They can turn it into Galleries of Justice part 2.
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
It would make an excellent gallery or museum
@aintnosoul5671
@aintnosoul5671 4 месяца назад
It will more like be converted into plush apartments for the wealthy.
@philiprufus4427
@philiprufus4427 3 месяца назад
More likely, ' Pyrotechnique Developments' will put in an appearance !
@atha9993
@atha9993 7 месяцев назад
The beds in the dormitory in the fire station ore for the crews working the night shift , stand down is between midnight and 7am where you are permitted to sleep but obviously respond to calls during that time , the lockers are for bedding and personal effects and clothing .
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
Brilliant - thanks for sharing
@derrenleepoole
@derrenleepoole 7 месяцев назад
Another quality explore. Criminal that such heritage is squandered this way. That would make a fantastic arts and community hub.
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
Yes it would!
@czylichilli
@czylichilli 7 месяцев назад
Wow. Greetings from Notts. Cool to see you guys in my city.
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
Hello!
@sharonformella9433
@sharonformella9433 17 часов назад
Worked in there for a while, recognise many parts of it. it was (and still is under the dust) a beautiful building. Excellent video.
@jankarel6454
@jankarel6454 7 месяцев назад
I think it's wonderful that you are recording these old buildings for posterity. One day they will be gone, and without some sort of record being made, people will never even know that these amazing buildings existed.
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
That's the idea!
@cameronherd7112
@cameronherd7112 3 месяца назад
About ten years ago, I visited this building while doing work for the City Council. We were asked to quote up for the removal of the asbestos ceilings in the court rooms that were in the process of falling down. In many of the old council offices, there were beautiful wooden cabinets that had been left. Although it looks like most of them have been pinched now. The building had several burst water pipes and it was disbelieving to see such an amazing building with streams of water running down the stairs cases! In the court yard between the civi building and fire station (where the bridge passes over) in the corner is a small building. It was where the caretaker lived. When I visited a caretaker was still living there and keeping an eye on the site. He has obviously long gone now and it looks like people have started to trash the place which is a shame. The building was alarmed when we visited but as others have suggested, I suspect the council want people to break in with the hope of a fire to destroy the building. I know the council were struggling to find a buyer as most of it (mainly the court rooms) are grade 2 listed so any hotel chains etc that expressed an interest just couldn’t find a way of making it work. I’m sure the national trust could put it to good use but the council of course wouldn’t get any money. A shame, the building reminds me of the good old days and how life used to be.
@calum29854792385
@calum29854792385 2 месяца назад
I can remember being taken round that building by my dad when I was younger, can always remember being excited to see the fire engines and police cars
@MattandBecExplores-lt9vf
@MattandBecExplores-lt9vf 7 месяцев назад
Fantastic explore. Really interesting watch. Loved the history as well. 😊❤👍
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
Thank you very much
@nigelhardy7218
@nigelhardy7218 7 месяцев назад
The art deco architecture of the police and fire stations gives a modern contrast to the 1888 court building. Clean uncluttered design. In the fire station where the vehicles were kept are entrance doors at the rear and exit doors onto the street. On returning from a call engines drive to the rear of the building for cleaning before entering the garage entrance doors, parked nose to the front exit doors ready for a swift emergency exit from the front.
@bobbythomas200420032
@bobbythomas200420032 7 месяцев назад
A great video and the building is lovely like the architecture in the main lobby area. The wood panelling in the courts just so awesome. I really enjoyed the video thank you for filming this.
@bganonimouse2754
@bganonimouse2754 7 месяцев назад
Another top quality video. The pride you take in your work is there for all to see, thanks!
@roryg8704
@roryg8704 15 дней назад
Beautiful video and what a building! It needs to be saved and if it was converted to a hotel that would be amazing for sure! Keep em coming bois. Loving these!
@leonardbillson6712
@leonardbillson6712 7 месяцев назад
The beds in the fire station are for the night shift when there not busy and no fire to attend too 🤔👍
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
Makes a lot of sense - I don't know why we didn't consider it at the time, but it was 2021!
@sglenny001
@sglenny001 2 месяца назад
Yep my grandad used it
@RichieRouge206
@RichieRouge206 7 месяцев назад
Fascinating place in every way. It seems that all over, all our history and historical buildings are left to rot so that we having left, all in favour of cheapness. I visit Nottingham fairly regularly for college. The court room was pretty impressive too - stark contrast between the stark cold cells and the opulent, warm offices. Great video with awesome music too!
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
Thank you! The courtrooms did feel very different to the brighter colours of the rooms surrounding them
@mmatejka01
@mmatejka01 7 месяцев назад
You guys do such a great job of documenting these locations.....Love your channel. ..!
@schtoff8200
@schtoff8200 Месяц назад
The beds would be there for when the firefighters are on shift. I found this on google which might help: Firefighters in the UK typically work 42 hours per week in shifts, which can include day and night shifts, followed by rest days. The shift pattern varies by station and role, and can include: Shift duty system Two days (9 AM-6 PM) and two nights (6 PM-9 AM) followed by four 24-hour periods off Day crewing system Four days on (12 PM-10 PM) with on-call cover for the remaining hours, followed by four days off Rural duty system Four days on (6 AM-6 PM) with the potential for on-call cover for the remaining hours, followed by four days off
@carolannelodwick3995
@carolannelodwick3995 7 месяцев назад
I am new to your channel .Your description and history of a once beautiful building are great! It's just so sad to see such a lovely place neglected and forgotten about .Thank you guys and stay safe .😁
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
Thank you - we will :)
@chappo8403
@chappo8403 3 месяца назад
Brings back memories of the 90's when I was brought before the courts in this place. lol Waste of a great and historical building!
@feralLove
@feralLove 27 дней назад
Fantastic explore of a magnificent building. I'm not sure whether this was mentioned in the comment section ,but you captured spirit orbs at the beginning of the video and again at seven minutes in. And for any skeptic who may be reading this try and keep an open mind.
@OLIFAB
@OLIFAB 7 месяцев назад
Fantastic explore! Stunning architecture! 😁
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
Cheers!
@rob_1359
@rob_1359 Месяц назад
Great video chaps thank you. The guildhall is a beauty of architecture begging to be saved. You may have noticed that there is a statue of a policeman above the entrance. The office you show at 1903 is the office of the Chief Constable of Nottingham City Police and originally contained a large solid oak desk and equally solid but much larger conference table. When the police station ceased to be a headquarters, that office became the Divisional Commanders office, the corridor outside being called the Command Corridor. The offices opposite being the assistant and deputy Chief Officers of Nottingham City Police. The large stone stairways had two large stone lions on plinths at the end of the Command Corridor and two ear memorials on the walls nearby. The extremely large room you say was part of the fire station was actually part of the police station and behind it was a Mess (canteen) for the fire and police to share. The beds you show were for the fire brigade, used for which ever watch was on a week of night shifts. Below the stations is a labyrinth of tunnels cut in to the stone which originally served as air raid shelters at different levels and later used by the fire brigade for training.There are still signs on the walls refering to the shelters.
@HolyFreakinDragonSlayer
@HolyFreakinDragonSlayer 3 месяца назад
Why do you guys not have a million subs yet? Keep up the good work 👏
@DrZippo01
@DrZippo01 7 месяцев назад
Disturbing that a concious decision has been made by people tasked with making important decisions about our lives have alloed this building to fall into such a disrespectful state if disrepair.
@JamesJackson-m9q
@JamesJackson-m9q 3 месяца назад
I got remanded to glen parva when I was 15 in that court . Was bricking it 😊
@JoolsUK
@JoolsUK 7 месяцев назад
Isn't it interesting how the brutalist prison cells and hallway give way to wooden panelled and civilised benching with an air of importance. Demonstrates how design and furniture can dictate feelings.
@bruceaisher
@bruceaisher 7 месяцев назад
As they should
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
It's a great point, you could feel the change walking between either one and I feel that it would be received the same without any furnishings, purely by the cold, muted brick of the cells and the rich, dark wood of the courts.
@ghostfacescrillaNG
@ghostfacescrillaNG 6 месяцев назад
Some people dream of being footballers, singers, actors…. Not me, I dream of being part of the Urbandoned team 😂. I’ve always had a fascination of derelict/abandoned buildings. So many amazing buildings just left to rot. So many to explore! I remember me and my mate finding the old RAF Newton village by chance in Notts (used in This Is England) we couldn’t believe it! Spent hours exploring all the empty houses. It’s gone now.
@franklancaster8434
@franklancaster8434 2 месяца назад
There used to a pub opposite the Guild hall called the Guild Hall Tavern that was a great pub and so beautiful inside.
@Nottsboy24
@Nottsboy24 Месяц назад
Hey, my home city of Nottingham 👌The Guildhall, has been derelict for quite a whike now, interesting walk through chaps. There is another building off Derby Road, Canning Circus, The Rope Walk what used to be a funeral parlour, Richard Clower & Sons Funeral Home. It closed down around 1978/1979. It then became a Co- op, Fish N Chip shop, various restaurants until around 2000. No one wants it because of the basement, lot of goings-on down there 🫣
@absworthhoxworth6368
@absworthhoxworth6368 Месяц назад
Me and my girlfriend love your videos lads 🙏 she used to watch exploringwithfighters but as soon as I saw them I couldn't help but point out how childish and ignorant they can be to where they are and what they're doing. You lot film these bang on, a lot of perspective and history we love it. We're actually from Nottingham so this video was a fun watch, it'd be great if you did guest appearances cos I'd love to come and survey one of these places it's incredible!
@jmtubbs1639
@jmtubbs1639 2 месяца назад
The "printing machine" is actually a Citoborma 480 4 head paper drilling machine, and is worth a few bob.
@patrickobrien4963
@patrickobrien4963 7 месяцев назад
Nice to see a video of you in nottingham city centre
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
Not the only one :)
@MichaelofEngland
@MichaelofEngland 2 месяца назад
In my fifties now and so sad to see my wonderful old home town going to ruin.
@frasermathers2287
@frasermathers2287 7 месяцев назад
Fantastic explore and video lads with some amazing architecture. Once again we see a wonderful building being left to rot. The sooner we as a society wake up and are able to prosecute our local and national governments for the woeful disrespect for the property we own and the disrespect shown for some of the contents (like the name boards) the better. I also wonder what the electricity bill is for all the power over the many years that the building has been vacant. Having personally owned and totally refurbished homes between 300 & 100 years old, you cannot tell me that these buildings could not be repurposed and put back into use.
@bruceaisher
@bruceaisher 7 месяцев назад
I agree. Leaving a building like this to rot should be a criminal offense.
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
I agree completely, especially just the nameboards, it takes five minutes to unscrew them and put them in storage. From what we have heard, they have been graffed now...
@stephaniemcquillan1930
@stephaniemcquillan1930 7 месяцев назад
Hi guys! Very interesting historic place. Loved it. Thanks for the video.
@nicholasshipley2467
@nicholasshipley2467 2 месяца назад
Well done again, Notts CC. So many examples of gross mismanagement.
@Gary85Paul
@Gary85Paul 7 месяцев назад
I'm surprised that they left the oak panels with former mayors' names. That's part of the civic history of Nottingham.
@bruceaisher
@bruceaisher 7 месяцев назад
You think they give a rats arse about that? Too busy virtue signalling to care about their actual heritage
@themondalorian9844
@themondalorian9844 Месяц назад
Cool exploring! Also wonder if you guys have seem the closed down train tunnels underneath Nottingham? 🤔
@BeestonRed
@BeestonRed 3 месяца назад
I worked at the Guildhall in the offices that had the padlock. I loved working there and have many fond memories, working for NCC the IT Networks Team we used to store stuff in the cells at the front of the building. Such a shame to see the building falling into disrepair. Doubt the council will do much now with their massive debts. Maybe they can sell the City Ground to Forest and make that hotel, it’s in a perfect place. Cheers lads for the memories. PS the beds were for fireman as they were always present at the station and slept there waiting to be called. They used to play basketball or something in the courtyard in day hours whilst waiting and sleep at night. PPS Some of it is a listed building so cannot be knocked down like they did across the road … the modern building which replaced what used to be the Nottingham Evening Post.
@aarjaycee3601
@aarjaycee3601 7 месяцев назад
nice upload again fellas, thoroughly captivating and intersting video, thanks for showing us this as always
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
Appreciate it :)
@stuartwilson23
@stuartwilson23 6 месяцев назад
I use to work at the Debenham store in Nottingham (and Bristol in fact!), would love to see a video of the abandoned building now.
@jasongates2300
@jasongates2300 4 месяца назад
Such a shame that so many of these beautiful old buildings fall into ruin and disrepair due to the increasing running and maintenance costs. Hoping a passionate and wealthy trust or private owner takes it on and turns into something useful for the public for educational or good recreational purposes.
@SimonKelk
@SimonKelk 7 месяцев назад
With the council being bankrupt it frustrates me that such a wonderful city space is left abandoned with power on, pidgeon droppings everywhere.
@Knockseekfind
@Knockseekfind 7 месяцев назад
Great video really enjoyed this keep up the great work Thankyou so much stay safe please 🙏. 👍💯
@johnd6487
@johnd6487 3 месяца назад
All those cells.. the city council is always on about needing more student accommodation 😂
@foxual13
@foxual13 4 месяца назад
The Paper Drill at 11:32 is a beauty
@davidn3394
@davidn3394 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely amazing video thanks
@samj4410
@samj4410 7 месяцев назад
Considering the City Council is bankrupt, why on earth is the power just left running in this building? What an absolute waste of money
@jamescollins6085
@jamescollins6085 7 месяцев назад
It deters scrappers if you leave the power on.
@kubhlaikhan2015
@kubhlaikhan2015 3 месяца назад
Pretty much sums up how well the Council has been serving the people of Nottingham over the past 20-30 years.
@StefanArlt1968
@StefanArlt1968 7 месяцев назад
The dormitory in the Fire Station section was most likely intended for the firefighters’ night shifts, we function identically at the hospital where I work. 😊
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for informing us
@StefanArlt1968
@StefanArlt1968 7 месяцев назад
@@Urbandoned It’s a pleasure. I really like your videos, they’re absolutely boss and historically very accurate. With friendly greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭 ! ✌🏻
@bruceaisher
@bruceaisher 7 месяцев назад
How on God's Green Earth is that left to rot? Absolutely amazing architecture. Honestly this video was depressing, like a symbol of how far things have declined for the country in such a short space of time.
@mattsquire2284
@mattsquire2284 7 месяцев назад
The beds in the fire station would have been for the fire fighters on night shift, they don't just stay awake all night, they are allowed to sleep.
@roomullan3050
@roomullan3050 7 месяцев назад
Wow all that detail, it’s all gonna be wasted now
@benlambley7171
@benlambley7171 7 месяцев назад
Brilliant as usual guys
@DASMarijn
@DASMarijn 7 месяцев назад
What an building! Great tour, fellas!
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
You're welcome
@miffy9871
@miffy9871 7 месяцев назад
It’s so sad to see a beautiful building like this in a prime location functionless, rotting away.
@mewsman44
@mewsman44 7 месяцев назад
Another great video lads .
@tomhbbb7523
@tomhbbb7523 7 месяцев назад
crazy to see how much notts skyline has changed in just a few years
@SkipperMacky
@SkipperMacky 4 месяца назад
That would make an awesome club
@hannahatkins636
@hannahatkins636 7 месяцев назад
It's sad to think that nothing may never get done as the city council is in dire straits money wise. Or, they'll probably go to some housing developers. I hope, like someone said, that they will be preserved as a museum.
@TheWickedYoda
@TheWickedYoda 4 месяца назад
considering it was a fire station, ever think the beds might have been for the firefighters on call or on duty at night?
@BIG-DEE-EASTMIDDZ
@BIG-DEE-EASTMIDDZ 3 месяца назад
My city boys ❤❤💯 how you get in here though 😮 we cant find a way in
@SkipperMacky
@SkipperMacky 4 месяца назад
19:21 those spirals resemble something else too. Quite an odd design for a police station.
@CraigGlover
@CraigGlover 6 дней назад
We've no space in prisons, we're releasing criminals.. well I think this building can easily be put to use.
@DanielLewis-rf1wl
@DanielLewis-rf1wl 2 месяца назад
They used to handcuff us too radiators for the whole weekend imagine how hot it was and no foos or water
@Buffalo31
@Buffalo31 4 месяца назад
Government departments shouldn't spend millions moving to new premises unless they've got a long-term plan for grade listed buildings that they leave.
@antonyreyn
@antonyreyn 4 месяца назад
Great point cheers from Sherwood
@dwbswanson
@dwbswanson 7 месяцев назад
With the risk of fire or other damage, I'm shocked these name panels with dates from before that building was constructed have been left. They may have been from the previous town hall.
@Urbandoned
@Urbandoned 7 месяцев назад
Totally agree, it's always surprising why they aren't removed
@zaprodk
@zaprodk 7 месяцев назад
11:34 That machine is not used for printing, but for drilling holes in the spine of the paper stack to assemble a ring binder. This machine was introduced in 1988, so absolutely no the 60s :)
@Harryyy7
@Harryyy7 7 месяцев назад
i grew up in nottingham
@andrewfarrington6627
@andrewfarrington6627 2 месяца назад
How many thousand pounds a year is it costing our bankrupt city council to keep the lights on in an empty building. I always walk past this building in Nottingham and think what a tragic waste.
@Turnthatbiglightoff
@Turnthatbiglightoff 3 месяца назад
A beautiful building. Built by a society with a different mindset to our current one.
@Jimmycrops89
@Jimmycrops89 7 месяцев назад
very good
@DILLIGAF65
@DILLIGAF65 7 месяцев назад
Fire fighters work in shifts,they live at the station while on their shift, I think they work 1 week on,one off. At least this is how they do it in the U.S, I'm assuming they do the same there. I'm sure if that's the case then you also found a kitchen, bathroom and shower room in that same area.
@59patrickw
@59patrickw 7 месяцев назад
this how the UK fire service shift patten works Most of our operational firefighters work a standard shift pattern from 08:00 until 18:00 on a 'tour' of two days, two nights then four days off. Each crew typically has 4 watches, which are identified by different colours - Red, Green, Blue and White.
@Eviction76
@Eviction76 3 месяца назад
4:35 drunk tank
@davidsmith8728
@davidsmith8728 3 месяца назад
Blimey, I used to work there. I know the courts well. By the way, the beds in the Fire Station are for the staff to sleep when they are on nights. Unless there was a call - which usually there wasn't, they slept overnight. Not bad work if you can get it.
@kellishero
@kellishero 3 месяца назад
Its a real shame that the councils letting these buildings fall into such a state of disrepair. I remember the court when it was still in use a beautiful building full of character, better than the modern monstrosity that replaced it.
@haisesasaki5326
@haisesasaki5326 6 месяцев назад
Can you still find a way into the courthouse at the moment? Got into the fire / police station but got lost on how to get to the courts
@emanuelbravo1563
@emanuelbravo1563 5 месяцев назад
Question for us who do not live there our those ships and building still standing I live in Oregon thanks for sharing guys
@LordFlash1
@LordFlash1 3 месяца назад
Did you find the cave system under the police station? Refitted in World War Two to be an air raid shelter
@ziggyzagg561
@ziggyzagg561 3 месяца назад
Was based in there during my 10 years service for N.C.C. cell 26. stay away its fooking spooky.
@DavePocklington
@DavePocklington 3 месяца назад
It shows the pride once felt in the nation. Now lost by our utterly useless politicians. I suppose it has been replaced by a soulless edifice, built in rectangles and squares, with no adornment. Representative of the ideals of our leaders. Boring, bland and without pride.
@GoostTube
@GoostTube 7 месяцев назад
🔥🔥🔥
@lindadejonge
@lindadejonge Месяц назад
If the building was renovated, the council could help the thousands of homeless or people on the waiting lists! To leave it empty and decaying is criminal... It's a beautiful building and if it was renovated it could be restored to a former glory. Don't let greedy property developers turn it into yet more extremely expensive stufent accommodation!!!
@Muswell
@Muswell 6 месяцев назад
Those wooden plaques are to remember & commemorate important people. All those names will be lost if it all gets destroyed .
@jason7741
@jason7741 Месяц назад
14:45 plaque shows some sheriffs of Nottingham
@Joyce-no3up
@Joyce-no3up 5 месяцев назад
Is this accessible for public?
@12TribesUnite
@12TribesUnite 2 месяца назад
cool
@JohnJohn-xm3uq
@JohnJohn-xm3uq 2 месяца назад
Do you ever have problems with security when you go in some of the places
@DanielLewis-rf1wl
@DanielLewis-rf1wl 2 месяца назад
I got my first sentence in there how do i get in i need to go have a look
@chaddamp2894
@chaddamp2894 7 месяцев назад
Some Fire Unions are allowed to sleep if they are on night shift and there are no call outs,un believable eh?
@curveon60fps79
@curveon60fps79 2 месяца назад
Is this place still easy to get in ?
@DanielLewis-rf1wl
@DanielLewis-rf1wl 2 месяца назад
I beg you show me how to get in
@josh-t4d
@josh-t4d 6 месяцев назад
How did you get in?
@CheekyFest
@CheekyFest 3 месяца назад
why dont they sell it?
@Devils-advocate78
@Devils-advocate78 3 месяца назад
It’s called the guildhall not that town hall
@tamarahenderson5241
@tamarahenderson5241 7 месяцев назад
Love
@markmitchell2282
@markmitchell2282 3 месяца назад
Guildhall courts
@chrisrickels8743
@chrisrickels8743 7 месяцев назад
omg, I was just talking about this place and wondering what it was like inside. Such a waste that it's empty. I wish something could be done. I think the forest fixtures are from the 1995/96 season by the way, which matches up with when everyone moved out.
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