Exploring The Most MINDBLOWING Twist of Fargo... 

Spot on. Some people need every little thing explained to them. Clearly you are not one of them.

@@nospoon4799 You are both wrong. It is just a movie and it dont need to make sense.

@@RandySnarsh it's a TV show, not a movie...and it's a well-written TV show. it is made quite clear if you're paying attention to the dialogue that Hanzee is Otto's son. i.e. when the sunglasses dude from Buffalo runs into Milligan at the Gerhardt house, he asks Milligan, "which one are you again? the kid Otto had with the maid?"

bingo. that was the real reason why Hanzee flipped on the Gerhardts. it wasn't simply that he was tired of the crime family that he worked for sending him to do all their dirty work...it was that his ACTUAL family was doing that to him, and keeping him at a distance like he wasn't really one of them. at a certain point, he couldn't tolerate that disrespect from his kin anymore.

@@MisterHoodrich89Dodd also calls him a halfie when he walks into the cabin

Like the 2 definitions of “revolution” that Mike Milligan mentioned. 👍🏽

oh damn really? RIP.

I am hoping that at some point the show will do a season where they show us how Hanzee rose through the criminal underworld in the intervening years as Tripoli, and how he took down Kansas City. My guess is he and Mike Milligan worked together to take the entire syndicate down and create their own mob out of the remnants.

@@barbiquearea that would be so cool.

It is Wrenches story in reality. He was the only character to be in all three seasons. Four departed from this.

@@barbiquearea He took over Kansas at the end of season two when he recruited wrench and numbers.

​@nelsonnoname001 Hanzee was a 1 man killing machine, whereas Mike needed people to do the dirty work and stood around spouting crap.

That's exactly what happens to majority of the greatest warriors, you get complacent and become a hedonistic whale. No one is expecting some random dude with a sub machine gun to come shooting up the whole place.

@@boygonewhoopdataZZAaaah, a cautionary tale about laziness and how one living by the sword will die by the Sword? Yeah that seems logical too...

So true. The real Hanzee would have given a fight to Malvo. Especially since he saw him coming from a mile away with all these gunshots.

@@francoisgoulet3352 Yeah it doesn^t make sence for the two figures to be the same man. I wonder if there is a deeper lore behind all these details or if they just have fun playing with ideas and names and giving out hints without any actual meaning behind it.

That makes more sense than him turning into the slob himself

But Lorne is reallly HIM, like he said mr wrench was the closet to killing him, he was also raised by hanzee, small details in Lorne Malvo makes it more justifiable to me. So far Lorne has been the best hit man in the game

I just posted the theory that the fat Guy wasn't Tripoli either but nothing but a Decoy giving out orders from Hanzee who lives a quite live in the Shadows.

Key word is "WAS". He got fat and complacent. Complacency will do more damage than anything in a situation such as his.

Well yea I’m not saying it’s an unrealistic scenario just that it’s a shame to me it went down that way because of how awesome the Hanzee of season 2 was. What’s even more of a shame though is none of the characters of season 5 can remotely compare to guys like Malvo or s2 Hanzee.

They have a similar skin tone. No Country takes place in the 80’s, a few years after this movie. Both men are quite stoic, and only really speak when they need to. They both have their own code that they live by. They’re both skilled and capable in terms of weaponry and combat. And neither has a sense of humour.

That movie and this show are not canonically in a shared fictional universe with each other.

@@Zurroundhow do you know?

Agreed.

Face/Off gets a pass

It may be “unbelievable” for you, but I am old enough to remember a time when some people thought that Luke Skywalker was recast in “Return of the Jedi”, because Mark Hamill looked different because of the minimal plastic surgery he had done on his face after a car accident. Recently, Rene Zellweger had reconstructive surgery done on her face, and hardly anyone recognized her. Same with Meg Ryan, and Mickey Rourke. NONE of these celebrities changed their identities, and moved to another city to start a new life. So, while you might not believe in the whole face change thing, that doesn’t change the fact the it DOES happen in real life. People DO alter their appearance and start new lives elsewhere. You want to talk about “cheap plot devices” or overused Hollywood tropes? How about “prophecies”, or characters waking up to find out that everything that preceded was “just a dream”. Or, how about looking for a MacGuffin to find, or unlock another MacGuffin? There are so many BS plot devices out there to pick on instead of ragging on actual things that happen in real life!

Yeah claiming Hanzee was the mob boss in Season 1 was a stupid bit of reverse-engineering by the writers. Molly and Lou Solverson already provided the link between the seasons. We didn't need another one.

​@@JakeKoenigthought the same

I think that's exactly right. the core theme of Fargo is people being too arrogant and getting themselves into situations that they can't handle due to their hubris and ego. Hanzee the soldier couldn't afford to be lazy and slovenly, but Hanzee/Tripoli the mob boss presumably became too comfortable and full of himself over time after being in power for a while. and his arrogance led him to get entangled with a guy (Malvo) who still had the fire that Hanzee used to have.

​@@MisterHoodrich89I really would like to see a prime Hanzee vs Malvo

@@thefearofg0ds758 Malvo probably gets the edge. he was presented in the show as an almost supernatural force, like the true human manifestation of hell. Hanzee was a very serious and dangerous man, but seemed a lot more mortal and human.

That's the thing about it that bothers me... Tripoli gets taken out seemingly so easily.

They should have turned Hanzee into Malvo not Tripoli

@@MoralesCornerexactly idk how they missed that opportunity with hanzee’s nam back story and his skills in season 2 it would only make sense when I heard face change in the end of season 2 I was thinking he was gonna turn into Malvo literally only makes sense right? But no they completely botched it

😂 think you need to look up the definition of native.

More like Mike Mооlinуаn, heh heh. Did you hear that, T?

@@_zigger_ oh hey Paulie

@@_zigger_👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾

Isn’t Tripoli Greek not Jewish

@@elchapostacos787 Tripoli is in Libya.

its set in 2019

Nope.

Nice theory.

and the mike jackson skin bleaching. going to need a loooooooooooooooot of skin bleaching and facial hair plugs.

That's the hustle. Fargo has a currently successful season going on but Ive wanted these originally sopranos focused channels to extend to Fargo in particular just to hear their thoughts. And there are literally people in the comments who didn't catch it in the show, which will drive people to rewatch this amazing season. Good stuff all around

Where any idiot can explain anything they want even if they don't really understand..

I dont get that. Myself I can't separate them as the stories have interlinked so far. It's all good. Four fell a bit flat though. They left the wrench story. Which is what was tying it together.

Nah season 1 is good. Season 2 is pure class

Shep already had a criminal record of his own. Hanzee himself was on FBI’s most wanted. Whatever Shep did would have revealed him back in 87. I think Carl and Gaear however were employees of Hanzee (Moses) the building complex is named “Showalter” like Buscemi’s character name

Hanzee is Tripoli. He has surgery. Then recruits wrench and numbers at the end of Season two. Which is prior in time to season one and three.

That's just not the case though. Last scene with Hanzee, he says "don't care heavily guarded, don't care into the sea" and that's exactly how Tripoli expresses himself in season 1.

I think it works because it shows how people often become lazy and too comfortable once they achieve the power they crave.

Worst take.

@@shitpostheavy it's how I liked it not a "take"

Season 2 is just good for me season 1 is the best in my opinion